Roswell 66 Years Ago — My Interview with Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr.

Jesse Marcel Sr.Commentary & Analysis


L. A. Marzulli

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Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr. Interview

 In some ways Jesse Marcel is the only person alive who has actually had contact with what may be the wreckage of a UFO that crashed near Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947. I think you’ll find the interview, although short and somewhat terse, as revealing as I did. He recently appeared on the History Channel as witness to those events. 

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Biographical Information about Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr.

Born 30 August 1936 in Houston, Texas, Marcel is a retired military officer who served as a medical officer in the United States Navy from 1962 to 1971, having received his specialty training in Otolaryngology while in the Navy. He joined the Navy in 1962 just in time to take part in the Cuban Missile Crisis by serving on-board a troop transport ship, just missing being part of the invasion of Cuba when the crisis was thankfully, peacefully concluded. 

Marcel opened his medical practice in Helena, Montana, in 1971 and eventually joined the Montana National Guard as a medical officer in 1975 and earned his Flight Surgeon Wings at Ft. Rucker, Alabama. In those days the flight surgeons were allowed to solo in helicopters. During his career in the National Guard, he was appointed State Surgeon of the State of Montana and retired from the military a second time on his sixtieth birthday in 1996. The Iraqi war (Operation Iraqi Freedom) required his returning to the military September of 2004, and he spent the next 13 months as a flight surgeon for the 189th helicopter Battalion in Iraq. He spent his 69th birthday in Iraq and eventually flew more than 225 combat hours in a Blackhawk helicopter. Currently he is employed by the VA Hospital at Ft. Harrison, Montana, but is in the process of retiring. He and his wife Linda live outside Helena and look forward to slowing down and enjoying life. 


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L. A.: Can you give us a  thumbnail sketch of the Roswell Event.

 J. M.: Late June or early July, 1947, an unknown object crashed outside of Roswell on a ranch northwest of Roswell. The Army Air Force authorities recovered the debris and sent a portion of it to Fort Worth Army Air Field for their information. General Ramey determined that the debris was of unknown origin and floated the cover story that this was just a misidentified weather balloon and sent the debris for further study to Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. Most people who actually saw the debris felt that it was of extraterrestrial origin, in that there were apparent non-human remains associated with a portion of the debris.

 L. A.: How old were you at the time?

 J. M.: I was born 30 August 1936, which would have made me eleven years old.

 L. A.:  What did your father do in the Army Air Force?

 J. M.: He was the intelligence officer for the 509th Composite Group, which dropped the two atomic bombs on Japan to end the war. As an intelligence officer, a part of his responsibilities was to interpret photographs and brief bomb crews on appropriate targets. He was with the 509th at Wendover, Utah, where the crews practiced dropping what they called the pumpkin, which was a dummy atomic bomb in order to practice their skills on targets. After the war he received raw intelligence and it was his job to decipher this intelligence and give briefings to the appropriate personnel.

 L. A.:  Tell us the account of the night your dad brought the debris home.

 J. M.: I had been asleep for several hours, when my dad came into my bedroom and awakened me. He was very excited and led me into the kitchen where my mother was standing in the corner. On the floor there was pre-positioned pieces of metallic foil, beam-like structures and black plastic fragments like pieces of a broken phonograph record. My dad said, “Take a close look at this as you will probably never see anything like this again.” I think he used words like parts of a flying saucer to describe the debris. He first wanted us to look for anything that could have come from a radio, such as vacuum tubes, resistors or condensers, which there wasn’t anything like that. I think he already knew but wanted my mother and myself to satisfy our curiosity. We looked at the debris for a total of about fifteen or twenty minutes, then my dad boxed it back up and brought it out to the car. 

 L. A.:  What was the wreckage like? 

 J. M.: There was primarily foil-like metal beams that resembled “I” beams to my recollection, and the black plastic debris. The foil was very light but tough, and the beams were metallic with a peculiar type of writing along their length. The writing resembled hieroglyphics–but not exactly. There were more geometric shapes and figures that were of a purple violet hue. The black plastic pieces resembled a broken phonograph record [or Bakelite]. 

 L. A.:  What was the “memory” metal like?

 J. M.: I did not try to bend or tear the metal, but just felt it so I did not witness the metal unfolding, etc.

 L. A.:  What did your father say to you that night?

 J. M.: I remember him saying words like, “this is parts of a flying saucer,” or something along that line.

 L. A.:  When did the story change?

 J. M.: After my father returned from Ft. Worth he was firm in his instructions never to talk about this again, treat it like it never happened. I think it was at Ft. Worth where the cover-up was started that he was pressured into saying that this “never happened.”

 L. A.:  How did your mother react to this?

 J. M.: She was pretty closed mouth about this, never really talking about it.

 L. A.:  When did he go public with the story?

 J. M.: In 1978 or 1979, Stan Friedman, who was given a heads-up about the Roswell story from a fellow radio amateur friend my dad had–who apparently was told about the Roswell debris during a ham radio conversation with my dad–interviewed him

 L. A.: Was there pressure from the military to confuse your dad’s memory of the event.

 J. M.: I am not aware of any pressure from the military, except for perhaps a verbal order not to discuss this.

 L. A.:  Have you ever been pressured to back off the story?

 J. M.: No

 L. A.:  What do you think the Roswell event was?

 J. M.: I think that it was as advertised, the downing of a probe that came from another civilization. Whether it was crewed or not, I do not know.

 L. A.:  Has the validation by Edgar Mitchell of your dad’s story about Roswell change anything for you?

 J. M.: It just reinforces what I had thought all along.

 L. A.:  What do you think the alien agenda is? Good or bad?

 J. M.: I think that they are scientists with a curiosity about other civilizations just like we would be. I do not think they are malevolent. If they were, we would not be here–certainly we don’t have anything they want.

 L. A.:  Why the government secrecy? What are they afraid of?

 J. M.: I have thought long and hard about this and don’t have any good answer for it. I don’t think they would be afraid of causing public panic like the “War of the Worlds” broadcast in the 1930’s. They may think they are protecting us from ourselves, which, of course, is not true.

 L. A.:  Do you think there may be an event that will trigger full disclosure?

 J. M.: I think the aliens themselves will disclose their presence in a dramatic fashion when they are good and ready. I don’t think there has been any official contact with any of the world’s governments, although I may be wrong. It may be that the aliens have more to fear from us than we from them.

 L. A.:  Final thoughts.

 J. M.: I would hope that full disclosure will be made in my lifetime, but even if it isn’t, I know what the truth is.

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Rising UFO Presence? Nearing Disclosure? Competing Interests?

It seems that in this year 2013 the number of good UFO sightings and videos is showing a rising trend. may this stimulate formal governments to take initiatives to begin disclosing some previously kept secrets in their own ways? In spite of so many earthly matters to be solved, how long can they hold on to denial without looking foolish? Some of these craft may even be from the so called “secret space program” as triangular vehicles (sometimes with bumps or strange protruberances) clearly seen and filmed also seem to be on the rise.

As contactee material suggests some ET beings may be respectfully waiting to inform and educate us so we can realize what our greatest potential is all about and this may include eventually reaching spiritual levels of manifestation beyond our ET forefathers.

According to this article, UFO sightings are on the  rise and perhaps disclosure may be imminent.  Have you ever wondered why they just don’t show up on the White House lawn?  Or why they don’t appear over the Houston Astrodome during a football game?  I wonder if that would stop the game, or the coaches would call a time out and then resume play?  Most likely not and perhpas the fans would think this was the half time show!

However, the UFO phenomena continues and for the most part, the average Joe on the street couldn’t care less.  I’ve encountered the “deer-in-the-headlights-look, more than once when someone asked me what I was working on.

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There is a term used to express the inability of humans to grasp a paradigm that is unknown to them, it is called cognitive dissonance.

People tend to seek consistency in their beliefs and perceptions. So what happens when one of our beliefs conflicts with another previously held belief? The term cognitive dissonance is used to describe the feeling of discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs. When there is a discrepancy between beliefs and behaviors, something must change in order to eliminate or reduce the dissonance.  

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I believe many Christians will experience cognitive Dissonance when The Revealing finally takes place.  However, this could be avoided if pastors would at least address the ongoing phenomena to their congregations.  Most of us who visit on this BLOG believe in the Bible, or as I refer to it, The Guidebook to the Supernatural.  The book contains story after story of supernatural events which take place on earth.  Moses parting the Red Sea, Jesus walking on water, Peter’s “jail break” with the help of an angel.   John being transported into the future, or as Gary Stearman would call John’s experinece, as one of a time traveller!

Contrary to our western paradigm, we live in a supernatural world, just like the Bible tells us we do.  According to this article, UFOs are increasing in number, in other words the phenomena is burgeoning.  So why aren’t we addressing it?

In closing todays post: At some point in the not-to-distant-future, there is going to be a revealing of the so-called extraterrestrial presence.  Ar you prepared to deal with it?  Have you investigated the facts surrounding the phenomena?  Has your pastor talked about it?  If our pastors who are supposed to warn the flock of what is coming, do not warn, then how will the people know of what is coming.  I remember someone at a conference I was speaking at raising their hand and telling me that God would never allow such a thing to take place.  I replied that it already was taking place and millions of people believe that UFOs and their inhabitants, could be our creators.  The Revealing is coming, I don’t know when, but I think we’re closer to seeing it than ever before.  The folks who run the Exo-News site seem to believe it too.  It’s not going away is it?


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There are two schools of thought concerning the UFO phenomena. One, which is embraced by the Exopolitic crowd, tells us that UFOs are extraterrestrials that are here from other planets to help usher us into the “new paradigm.” Some, like Rael, and those who follow him – I’ve Blogged about the Raelians before – believe that E.T. created all life on this planet. They were the ones who genetically manipulated us, created the world’s religions and were worshipped as gods by our ancestors. Now, they are back to help us through this critical time in our evolution. The other explanation is that these entities are interdimensional, but what does that mean? Jacque Vallee in his ground breaking book, Messengers of Deception, states that these entities may be here to deceive us! He stops short of exploring the Supernatural guide-book, but he does lean toward the idea that whatever these beings are they most likely are not being honest and forthright in their dealings with us. I have been told by abductees, experiencers, and researchers that the aliens ways are far above us. I often hear the analogy of abductions and mutilations being compared to what hunters do after they tag or kill game. In other words these beings are so far ahead of us both technologically and as a civilization that we can’t understand their ways. Here’s why I beg to differ with this. We are told by numerous abdcutees that after prolonged contact they come to realize that these beings lie habitually. Lynne Dickie, who was interviewed for The Alien Interview’s book, substantiates this, as well as Corina Sables who was abducted since she was a small child and also came on the record. Now lying is a trait that takes a deliberate act by the perpetrator. In other words the one who is lying is seeking to manipulate, obfuscate, hide, conceal or distort the truth. We consider this abhorrent and I would put forward that supposed advanced beings who engage in this behaviour are indeed messengers of deception and cannot be trusted. While on Coast to Coast, George and I discussed this idea of deception and I used the case of Blossom Goodchild who told the world that the Federation of Light was going to reveal a large UFO for 72 hours on October 14th 2008. It didn’t happen and Blossom Goodchild was left hanging in the wind. Why didn’t the Federation show?  I interviewed Goodchiild for my up and coming book on 2012 and she insisted that she asked them – the Federation of Light – over and over again if t his was really going to happen. She stated that they informed her and reassured her that it would. Yet, when October 14th came, it was a no-show. We are told in the Guide-book to the Supernatural that these beings are here to lie, kill and destroy. We are also informed that the ruler of these beings is the father of lies. I would point out that these statements are grave warnings of what these beings are capable of. Remember when Lawrence Gray came face to face with MOTHMAN he stated that the being was, “wickedness.” How’s that for a description? Recently I have been discussing the cattle mutilation that took place in southern Colorado. In the words of MUFON investigator Chuck Dukowski, who will be my guest next week on Acceleration Radio, the phenomena as gone destructive. What he means by this is that the mutilations have become much more graphic if such a thing is possible. Almost the entire animal has been cored or stripped, with surgical precision, of its flesh and organs. We are experiencing what I would call the beginning of the Great Deception. These beings are nefarious and cannot be trusted…. lying is their way and capturing the souls of men is their end game!

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