Sunday Go To Meeting Bun!

Bun!!!Sunday Bun


L. A. Marzulli

Isaiah 9:6-7New King James Version (NKJV)

For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

There are some of you who will read this and say something like this:  L. A., Christmas is not Jesus’ birthday, but here’s where I’m coming from.  Look at the prophecy written thousands of years ago by the prophet Isaiah.  The words herald the coming Messiah, the Anointed One, the King, and Christians all over the world celebrate his coming into the world on December 25th.

One point I think most of us will agree on is this, Jesus, fulfilled the prophecies of Isaiah almost 2 thousand years ago.  For our Israeli/Jewish friends who may visit this BLOG, I will point out that it’s not a matter of conversion, to Christianity, it’s a matter of accepting the one who was sent, the Messiah.  I believe you are not called to convert to Christianity, as you are Jewish, but only to accept your Messiah, Yashua.  At the day of Pentecost when the apostles received the Holy Spirit, Peter preached and the church was born, most of these were Jewd who accepted Yashua/Jesus as the Messiah.

Jesus the God-man became a little lower than the angels and dwelt among us.  His own did not recognize Him, and later as Isaiah states in the 53 chapter, He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows. 

Yashua/Jesus paid the price for every sin past, present. and future when he willingly gave His life on Calvary.  His shed blood is what redeems us and makes us righteous before a Holy God.

The Prince of the world has created much of what we see around us then, in Jesus time, and in ours, now.  The heart of man is desperately wicked…. Think about the atrocities that spilled the blood of countless people over the centuries.  Satan, The Fallen Cherub is still in control of this planet, even though he was defeated once and for all at the cross he still wages a campaign of death and destruction.   As Paul tells us; For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

In short, we all wait for the coming of the King.

For those of us who are born-again believers in the Messiah, we can agree that He did come into this world.  We may disagree to the date and some may choose to celebrate it or not.  Christmas has in some ways become commercialized, but for me and my household it is a time in which we acknowledge the savior of the world.

In closing todays post:  Here’s an article by my friend Cris Putnam.

Blessings to all and Merry Christmas!

Christmas on December 25th is not from Paganism!

dec 25If you frequent social media, then you’ve probably been inundated with smarty pants pseudo scholars calling Christmas a “pagan holiday.” These under-informed accusers believe they have the goods with bold claims like Christmas trees are forbidden in Jeremiah 10 (a passage about the manufacture of Canaanite idols) and that the date of December 25th was adopted from the pagan holiday of Saturnalia (actually December 17th).

The best way to respond to these claims is to ask them what evidence they have (from source documents). Most of the time this question will cause them to change the subject or elicit the chirping of crickets.  The truth is most of the claims are dubious and have no actual evidence.  Even if there were other holidays on the same date, it does not mean that they were even aware of each other. Correlation does not necessarily imply causation. The leaps in logic are prohibitive and there is no source claiming the Christians appropriated pagan days until the 12th century!

In the real world. reputable ancient source documents lay waste to the popular pagan origins theory concerning December 25. Biblical Archaeology Review is a serious journal respected by real biblical scholars. The article How December 25 Became Christmas provides ample evidence debunking the pagan origins myth, showing how it actually began, and even demonstrating how 12-5 was decided to be the date of Jesus’s birth. This dates back to the second century ( I challenge pagan theorists to antedate it).

Around 200 C.E. Tertullian of Carthage reported the calculation that the 14th of Nisan (the day of the crucifixion according to the Gospel of John) in the year Jesus diedc was equivalent to March 25 in the Roman (solar) calendar. March 25 is, of course, nine months before December 25; it was later recognized as the Feast of the Annunciation—the commemoration of Jesus’ conception. Thus, Jesus was believed to have been conceived and crucified on the same day of the year. Exactly nine months later, Jesus was born, on December 25.[1]

Of course, I am a nerd with Logos Bible Software and a searchable database of ancient documents including Tertullian. I verified the claim from the original source documents, Tertullian wrote:

And the suffering of this “extermination” was perfected within the times of the lxx hebdomads, under Tiberius Cæsar, in the consulate of Rubellius Geminus and Fufius Geminus, in the month of March, at the times of the passover, on the eighth day before the calends of April (March 25)[2]

The belief was that he died on the same day he was conceived. They believed the conception was on March 25 which became the Feast of the Annunciation, commemorating the angel’s appearance to Mary:  “In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth” (Luke 1:26) This idea appears in an anonymous Christian treatise titled On Solstices and Equinoxes from fourth-century North Africa:

“Therefore our Lord was conceived on the eighth of the kalends of April in the month of March [March 25], which is the day of the passion of the Lord and of his conception. For on that day he was conceived on the same he suffered.” [3]

The rationale was innocent enough, just add nine months to date of conception to determine when He was born and it lands on December 25th.  It’s that simple. Paganism had absolutely nothing to do with it.


Note:  Due to so may folks missing the point, I do not think Jesus was born on Dec 25th; the point of this post is that the early church did not chose the date based on a pagan holiday but rather when they assumed he was conceived (mistaken or not).


[1]Andrew McGowan, “How  December 25th Became Christmas ” Biblical Archeology Review, 08/12/2014

[2] Tertullian, “An Answer to the Jews,” in Latin Christianity: Its Founder, Tertullian, ed. Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe, trans. S. Thelwall, vol. 3, The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company, 1885), 160.

[3] De solstitia et aequinoctia conceptionis et nativitatis domini nostri iesu christi et iohannis baptista  as cited by Andrew McGowan, “How  December 25th Became Christmas ” Biblical Archeology Review, 08/12/2014 

70 thoughts on “Sunday Go To Meeting Bun!

  1. I’m often amused at people myself who say that the whole thing with Christmas is pagan. They cite the passage in Jeremiah 10 about the worship of the tree and wherever else it may be found. The difference is they worshipped the tree (condemned by God) and we worship the one who died on the tree (not condemned by God). When one decorates the tree, it is a symbol of of the celebrating of the one who died on the tree (Christ) to pay for our sins and the guarantee of eternal life and security for those who will receive him. It’s the same thing with the exchanging of gifts. Gifts were given at the first coming of Christ.

    The bottom line is that gift giving, Christmas trees and the celebration of Christmas are not incurring God’s dismay (so long as you are not worshipping the tree). God most assuredly is looking at the celebration of Christmas as a good thing.

    Further, I believe America was raised up by God in order to send forth the gospel message to the entire world. For any new people who have not seen this before, here is some powerful evidence of God’s fingeprints on the formation, purpose and destiny of this great nation.


    Therefore, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Christmas has been and continues to be recognized as a national Holiday in celebration of Christ. I think God’s fingerprints are all over this.

    “Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, {Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree}, that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Faith and belief in Christ is the essential ingredient for the promise of one to be rescued from the road to eternal damnation and be put on the road to eternal life.

    “For what is a man profited if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul”?

    That, my friends, is the true message and meaning of Christmas.

  2. wiki cites other dates for religious christmas celebrations…

    🎅 Dec 25 – all Western and some Eastern churches
    🎄 Jan 7 (Julian Dec 25) – some Eastern churches
    🎁 Jan 6 – most of Armenian Christianity
    🎂 Jan 19 (Julian Jan 6) – some Armenian Christians

    Whenever we celebrate, hopefully it’s as unto The Lord.

    I love Luke’s testimony — How the baby leaped in the womb!

    Luke 1

    39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; 40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth. 41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost

    And likewise the exquisite details provided by Matthew… (note: star, house, young child)

    Matthew 2 (… and here — probably not on Y’shua’s birthday, the wise men worship and give gifts to Him … not Mary … in a house … up to 2 years later)

    7 Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, inquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. 8 And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also. 9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.

    10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. 11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. 12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way….

    16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men.

    …the focus on Dec. 25th — especially the secular and other religion practices — is more about other versions of christ and other gospels. And just doesn’t line up with Matthew or Luke.

    But just as apostates ignore “the baby in the womb” — to legitimize killing the unborn and make life cheap — they’ll also ignore other scripture. Like the killing of the children by Herod and his curses….

    Matthew 1 gives us more… that by prophecy, even long before conception — Messiah was named!

    Mt.1: 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

    The overarching reality of our individual existence is that we exist in the mind and will of God — before our conception, before our birth, whether we are in a coma, or our natural bodies are returned to the elements of earth.

    Please, parents👪 — your babes👶 are a gift🎀 from God. Life does matter — cherish them. In Christ, our Heavenly Father shares all of life with us.

  3. “Therefore our Lord was conceived on the eighth of the kalends of April in the month of March [March 25], which is the day of the passion of the Lord and of his conception. For on that day he was conceived on the same he suffered.” [3]

    If anyone is reading Mark Flynn’s book you will recognize this date as the time when in Rome the death and “resurrection” of Attis was celebrated. Attis was turned into a pine tree by Zeus, so every year a pine tree was felled and wrapped in linen and paraded into the city. It was “decorated” with some rather unsavory things that I won’t go into here.

    It is the height of delightful irony to me that Christ would have been conceived on the day that the death of the old god was recognized. Coincidence? Divine satire? A portent of things to come? You decide.

    • ☥☦☧☫☬☮☯☪

      The santa sleigh and 7 dwarves (disney) definitely take the cake.


  4. Wow! I do have to say I am quite surprised by the attitudes of two men I have come to respect. Not so much you Marzulli, but Putnam. Really does one have to become so derogatory sounding when referring to the belief structure of other Christians? “The chirping of crickets” I’m a big boy so I take it all in stride, but I can’t but wonder if Putnam’s poorly illustrated rebuttal of why not to celebrate Christmas is an example of the thinking process behind his other research projects, if so then perhaps I should regard his writings in a new light of inspection from now on. There is absolutely no cause to be so caustic in the addressment of other Christian’s beliefs, who are choosing to take a more literal Biblical view, then the excepted norms of tradition which men fall easily into and propagate outside of any Biblical evidence to support them. The fact remains that Jesus was not born on December 25th. Putnam maintains that’s okay because it commemorates the conception of Jesus, which is round about reasoning as the custom of worship is the birth and not the conception, “unto us a child is born…”. My question is why not be literal believers as Jesus and the Bible would have us to be and celebrate the birth of Jesus when it actually occurred, which from research based off of the timelines of Zacharias priest hood duties and the conception of John the Baptist from June 22-25 and then it being twice repeated, once by an angel, that Elizabeth was six months pregnant at the time of Mary’s visitation, which yes does put Jesus’s conception within Mary by the Holy Spirit close to being that of December 25th, but Jesus’s birthday is around September 29. Why such condescension on the part of other Christians against those of us who wish to honor Jesus by following the literal translation of Scripture to commemorate the birth of our Savior? So much about Christmas is not Christ related and yet everything about September 29 is about Jesus and yes Chris Putnam most aspects of Christmas are rooted in paganism! Every manger scene is a lie that we propagate to our children at nauseum. The shepherds never went to the manger. The angels never came to the manger. The wise men didn’t show up until two years later and when they did it was to a house and not a barn. The only ones present at Jesus’s birth that we know of was Mary, Joseph and the animals in the stable. You may say that’s a trivial point to be made, but I say if its okay to lie about this then why not lie about Santa to your children and tell them all the presents under the tree( which is forbid in Jeremiah 10:3-4 ) are from him. Do you believe one lie is any different from another? And yes Putnam Saturnalia was a week long pagan festival starting on the 17th, but its not the occult tie-in of why the Catholic church moved the celebration of Christmas to December 25th. December 25 was a pagan holiday celebrated because it was the birthday of Tammuz or Yule (as in Yule log) the son of the stag god/winter god represented in the form of Nimrod and his wife many names (Isis, Ishtar, Diana, Aphrodite, etc.) Look it up. So much of Christmas traditions such as caroling for instance, which was pulled in from the festival of Saturnalia where people sang naked in front of peoples houses to the lights everyone decks their houses in which find their origin in the fact that people were welcoming in the winter god (Nimrod) to rule and reign in the winter time and the act of lighting candles throughout the house was an act of you welcoming him back and into your home. For anyone who has done endtime Bible research it should be somewhat obvious the parallel to be found that a rebirth of Nimrod’s spirit into some bodily form is the source of the anti-Christ. I make no claims to this statement, but if I’m right this literally means that on the day that the world celebrates Christmas as the birth of Jesus they are actually doing the opposite by symbolically worshipping the source of the anti-Christ’s origin. Satan flips everything upside down and this very much is his world and the catholic church is very much an instrument of his to do his bidding and let us not forget that they were the ones that made the date December 25th on their self imposed Julian calendar that is set up on pagan numerology versus the more accurate Hebrew calendar which I believe Christians would be better served by the use of. Disagreement with me is fine, but people do your own research and show yourself approved and don’t be bullied by others into believing one way or another. Look at the facts that’s all I ask and above all pray for insight. This year is the first Christmas I will not be celebrating on December 25th. It is a very big change for me and my family. In fact my whole extended family is spitting mad at me and sound remarkably similar to Putnam, but I didn’t arrive at the decision to not celebrate on my own. I arrived their through in-depth study of Scripture and by the gentle prodding of the Holy Spirit. Marzulli I know for you the issue of Christmas is a take it or leave it thing that doesn’t constitute a radical departure form the Christian faith in your view, but surely as someone once steeped in the occult you are aware of how the desire of the occult worshippers is to remain hidden and channel the worship of God into the worship of satan along with the willful destruction of the lives of Christians through unseen avenues of fallen originated means of worship. Just a few weeks ago the church I attend announced the startup of a Yoga class to be done in the church building by women of the church. It’s the little things that add up in a Christian’s life and lead to the enslavement of them and the incarceration of their faith from ever achieving something monumental for the Kingdom of God. “”My people perish for lack of knowledge….”” Finally I will end this quite lengthy rebuttal with this verse from Deuteronomy 12:4 NLT “Do not worship the Lord your God in the way these pagan peoples worship their gods.”

    • o_O A question comes to mind; will Guy Stanton IV be getting a Christmas gift this year or not?

      With no paragraph breaks this rant looks to be the longest sentence in the world. I make it about 3-4 lines then I get lost, I fear to use my last proton pill of 2014 in this case, since I will be heading to the MIL’s to spend Christmas.
      -end of line

    • Rose, pretty darn close but no banana..
      How odd, after watching that I got a craving for Harley Fritters…

    • On behalf of the Orthodox – they do theirs 7th January. Something to do with the Gregorian Calendar. Or is it Julian? 🙂

    • Nome, I`ve heard of some of these stories here and there..
      Here is one that I heard when I was actually paddling up the Amazon river:

      As for any strange Christmas legends or other hanky panky to the best of my knowledge,
      I know of none. To add I have seen Brazil slowly become more Christmasy year to year as
      related to trees and baubles and lights etc. thou still years behind the commercial Babylon
      curve. Actually you might say that here, they actually focus on Christ more during this time,
      moreover the focus being on family.
      – Happy Holy Days & Bring Us Some Figgy Pudding!

    • Guy,

      I agree with you.

      I had read what Chris Putnam wrote some time ago when he first blogged about it.

      I stopped celebrating the holiday in 2009 after much research and prayer. I don’t regret my decision.

      Shalom and Maranatha,


    • @ fig leaves & plum pudding…
      – not to be confused with kurds & guey
      – spiders notwithstanding

      Very merries & meaningfuls… Az
      – to you and all of yours
      – as in Acts, also your household


    • Yep, I’m with you too Guy.

      Whilst we all are entitled to our own conclusions regarding whether we celebrate on the 25th of December or not, isn’t it an ACTS 17:11 discernment issue to look into WHAT we believe and do with ALL the facts before making any conclusion. Most of us are too caught up in the sentimentality of our TRADITIONS to actually look into the FACTS correctly.

      I personally and RESPECTFULLY think the three main questions we should be asking ourselves are WHY? – do we believe what we believe about Christ-Mass. WHY NOT? – Why do we disagree? IS it TRUTH or TRADITION we’re standing on? …and ARE WE SURE? – 100% settled about our conclusions?

      The following video is a great start towards assessing what conclusion we should be coming to…

    • It’s Romans 14 at most.

      Where the blowback is coming from…whether it be Putnam or others…is when you have a certain element trying to turn whether or not you celebrate Christmas into a test of orthodoxy or some kind of “Christian fitness test” or “fellowship gauge.”

      This has been especially prevalent out of the Judaizers and other legalist elements we’ve seen gain popularity in the last several years.

      Anyone that tries to make this issue anything more than Romans 14… think “stumbling block”… is guilty of Romans 16:17 and should be responded to accordingly.

    • I also agree with Guy, and I think Eric’s response was spot on. I’ve never celebrated Christmas, due to my parents deciding very early on that they couldn’t, in good conscience, celebrate a holiday with so many pagan associations. (We also didn’t celebrate Easter or put candles on birthday cakes for the same reason.) I think the issue is not so much was Jesus actually born on December 25th, but, as Guy pointed out, all the traditions associated with the holiday that have pagan roots.

      Nevertheless, I think whether one celebrates Christmas or not is a peripheral issue and should not be a source of division amongst believers. Let everyone decide for themselves whether they want to celebrate it or not, based on their own personal convictions, and respect the differing decisions of others.

    • Some keep pets…
      – some eat them
      – 4H considered

      You heard about the missionary in Africa…
      – being chased through the forest by lions
      – who dropped to his knees and prayed frantically
      – just when the lion dropped to his knees casually
      – saying “Lord, thanks for this meal we’re about to eat!”

    • Hmmmmm……

      I think it is kinda odd what we see in Revelation 11:7-10 ………… [ notice verse 10 …. I have always wondered about that ]

      7 When they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them.

      8 And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

      9 Those from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their dead bodies for three and a half days,
      …and will not permit their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb.

      [ and the real kicker is verse 10 …….. ]

      10 And those who dwell on the earth …….. will “REJOICE” over them ……. and “CELEBRATE” … [ some translators use “MAKE MERRY” ];
      ……………and they will … “SEND GIFTS TO ONE ANOTHER”, … because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

    • Re: ” two prophets ”
      I’ve heard it said that the two prophets are the Old and New testament.
      -Chew on that

    • Hi, Nomemoleste!

      Found this, today, a new “Iron Sky: The Coming Race”. This time it’s hollow earth, dinosaurs and nazis. And what looks like a Sarah Palin as president as a reptilian, and nukes.


    • Top o da Mornin’ to ya Pete ❗

      I know Rose will also appreciate the pointer !!

      Admiral Byrd likewise. 🚇

      I’d guess inner earth to be another dimension, probably the same dimension as for the Black Sun, Blood Moon Tetrads, and Planet X. Of course, things get skewed a bit in translation and legend.

      Perhaps it’s also known as: the bottomless pit, hell, the abyss, and the seat of satan….. 🔱:?:

    • Stories do get skewed in the telling. Here’s a little more fun with the Irish granny. . .


    • @ I’m still getting over the shock of hedgehog cooking oil…
      – though the notion of cute little hedgehog bacon strips
      – might be quite tast… ahem, uh never mind

      I swear Rose, that granny is the one that lives upstairs…
      – with the family of 6 that she took in several months back
      – that sound like a heard of elephants and snore likewise
      – who keep throwing snacks down to a junkyard stray
      – that comes by ’cause their chihuahua’s in season and
      – growls at neighbors gettin’ holiday cards from the post

      …and I betcha, she’s got burning heart conchita on the wall

    • Re: Chimihuahuas

      G’nome, I’m sure you could handle one possessed chihuahua but the rest I’m not so sure..
      Maybe Papai Noel will bring you some sonic-earplugs?

      Linda, keep your paws off Harley, he’s mine, I’ve got Dibs on’em!
      Rosa-Frita, what an absolutely dreadful story, I liked it.

    • Oh, my dear Nome, I’m so sorry that you have to put up with your own noisy granny upstairs. The sonic ear plugs may be a good idea.

      We once had the honor of owning a hedge hog. . . and three cats. The hedge hog lived long and there were bloody little cat foot prints all over the house. Moral: a hedge hog fights back. You may want to pick on a docile chicken for your Christmas tamales.

      Mr. Blue Sky, the dreadfuller the better. I love crazy grannies.


    • @ cat prints…


      here harley, harley, harley…
      – wanna fishie cracker
      – I got some bacon ritzis

      @ sonic earplugs…

      – well my first set of -25 dB electronic earmuffs were too tight
      – but the second set of -30 dB shooter’s muffs is just right
      – add an 8 hour 👂
      – and I’m regaining my lost sleep

      gotta be overcomers…
      – the names of the local animal control officers are Frank and Joe
      – 💂

    • White noise? Well if that won’t give you the back door trots the H.H. Bacon strips (Kosher?) will.

      20 yards to the Outhouse

      By Will Nome Makit
      Illustrated by Betty Downt

    • for Pete, São Paolo, & SeashoreMary…
      – enemy gospels & ozzie shenanigans
      – so called sweet dreams are made of these

      see forest, run…
      – run for it, run

      jeje, forrest gumption

    • **For entertainment purposes only**

      Strain a gnat & swallow a camel

      Most churches gather on Sun-day (sun god day), for the ones more enlightened they gather on Satur-day (god saturn), some wear crosses (a pagan symbol) and begin the new week on Mon-day (moon goddess), then abstain from participating in Christ-mas and end up celebrating the first day of the new year of the god Janus (January).

      P.S. Don’t forget the day of gluttony Thanks-giving.

    • For educational purposes
      Portuguese *note Feira means: Market/Fair

      1° day Domingo (Sunday) Meaning: domingo, from Latin dominīcus (“day of the Lord”).
      2° day Segunda-feira (Monday) Meaning: 2nd
      3° day Terça-feira (Tuesday) Meaning: 3rd
      4° day Quarta-feira (Wednesday) Meaning: 4th
      5° day Quinta-feira (Thursday) Meaning: 5th
      6° day Sexta-feira (Friday) Meaning: 6th
      7° day Sábado (Saturday) Meaning: Hebrew שַׁבָּת (shabát, “Sabbath”).

      Days of the week:

      The First Day: Sunday was named after the Sun god.
      The second Day: Monday was named after the moon goddess.
      The Third Day: Tuesday was named after the god Tyr.
      The Fourth Day: Wednesday was named after the god Odin.
      The Fifth Day: Thursday was named after the god Thor.
      The Sixth Day: Friday was named after the goddess Frigga.
      The Seventh Day: Saturday was named after the god Saturn.

    • Az, it was either three or four years ago on this blog where some were upset about the “pagan background” of Christmas and I used the exact same argument you just did. Like then, I imagine you too won’t be hearing any cogent rebuttal. If we as followers of Christ are going to be intellectually honest, we use “Pagan backgrounds” in several aspects of our daily lives such as the days of the week yet never a hint of conviction from doing so. Sometimes, we are more eager to quinch God’s Grace than we are to live in and embrace it.

    • Living abroad really puts sharp contrast on what cements our native cultural identity.

      In the Azores (Portugal) the straight numbering of the days seemed so much more sensible to me.

      As for months, esp. the confusion of mixing september (7th), october (8th), november (9th), december (10th) with totally pagan idolatrous god and emperor-god honoraria … well there’s a line that should not be crossed. Such as calling Jesus by the name “zeus.” John at the end of 1st John closes (emphasizes) — “keep yourselves [away] from idols.”

      I’ve had to dial back my absolute disdain for secular holidaze as partly my overreaction to hyperstimulation resulting from aspergers (mild autism spectrum sensory overload). I get it that some folks are “overdamped” and need pep rallies at church and a lot of emotional stroking to connect with worship. I’m “underdamped” and have difficulty ignoring that others use holiday celebrations as a warrant for extremes. Such as with fireworks…..

      I really do deeply hate the holiday shopping and party season from halloween to now mid-january. It’s really hard for me to ignore what the seculars, pagans, and religious are so blind, deaf, and dumb to (like in Rev. 18). The other side of that is that I’m blind to the body language and such that no doubt makes the holidays a pleasure for more typical folks, with all the family reunions, memories, and such.

      In any case, if we hold Yeshua (Yahshua / Jesus) up and focus on Him — then He reconciles us. When we focus on our differences, there’s other dynamics. And I really appreciate that in Christ, (and those in Christ are members of His Kingdom), there’s neither “this difference nor that nor the other” … but His connection to us is what matters — through the Holy Spirit.

      So yes definitely — Best of any holy day or time that y’all share with Him. Amen!

      And to the missionaries, ex-pats, and strangers in strange lands … Well it’s just about Home Time!

    • Jeff I agree and Nome I agree with you too. In that “more eager to quinch God’s Grace” and “disdain for secular holidaze”

      As some here might agree fully or in part; the whole world is Babylon right down the flesh we wear. Still living in the flesh, under the curse in a fallen world; -For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

      At least for me I have been learning or have had to learn not to stifle the good things “love” etc. for the sake of knowledge. As Mary Strong-Spaid said on the blog here: “It’s been years since I have had a “hot cross bun”
      So good!” God forbid that I “dis”-respect her hot cross bun and take her joy away!

      But alas we have our herme-neutics (god hermes) to help lead the way.. bleh!

  5. Nice, LA. We live in such confusing times when “facts” abound on both sides of an issue that seem to expose the other side to be false. I don’t know when the Lord was born, but I do know I am eternally grateful that He was. Satan has launched an all-out assault in these last days to silence the praise and pervert the meaning, but I rejoice in the heightened awareness of His name during this time of year and the natural opportunities that occur to present the good news to family, friends and strangers. May we all offer The Greatest Gif of All to them. Hallelujah!!

    • Divide and Conquer – throwing Jesus under the bus for technicalities

      In my limited viewpoint “Especially at this time of year” seeing Christians divided is a bad witness to the world when at this very time, Christ should be lifted up, along with loving others, sharing and being with family, including all good things.

      Being born into a cosmic war is not to easy, but a mortal can put on immortality with Faith in Jesus Christ.

      As to the other side of the coin I agree as well, but shall we not do good?

    • I remember that interview about Howard Storm’s NDE, albeit NDE’s are another discussion, but when he ended up in hell and was told to pray, he did not know how or to whom exactly, in fact he mentioned that he started to pray the pledge of allegiance.. :facepalm:

      Just a random thought.. I’m calling Rotor Rooter immediately..

    • Linda to the rescue..
      Hey I was thinking about chu even though we are on opposite sides of the world I am watching Strange Empire on CBC
      without the commercials. Ha Ha :þ

  6. Hello LA & All:

    I haven’t written here in quite some time. Changes in my life, for the good, praise the Lord…but I read the blog daily and the comments as much as possible. I believe with this whole topic that “It is a matter of our Hearts”. The Word of God tells us that some will abstain from some days (holidays etc.) and some things (drinking or eating meat, etc.) that others in the body will partake of and we are not to argue with each other over it but to also not use our liberty as a way of pushing it in the face of other believers whose beliefs to not partake keep them from celebrating. I believe we’ve been saved unto freedom and we do have freedom to choose to celebrate or not and to each a blessing whether celebrating or abstaining. For me it is a joy to celebrate this season of remembering our Lord’s birth, whether it was the exact date or not. Regarding the tree, I think of the scriptures that speak of the Lord being the light of the world and He also states we are the light of the world and when I look at the lights on the trees, think of His light coming into the world to shine on the darkness. There is so much we can take from this holiday and toss because it is pagan or we can see the things of God in them, it is our perspective and a heart thing. I believe we can get too legalistic and miss the Spirit of God that wants to bring the truth of the Messiah’s coming. They will know us by our Love for one another, not by our being right all the time. None of us knows it all or is right about every single aspect of this…let’s love and celebrate if that is our choosing and if not, let us not become legalistic and cold in our not celebrating. God is too good to us for us to let Satan cause us to argue or even banter amongst ourselves. Let’s hold to our particular convictions and bless the Lord to bring Him the Glory that is Due Him and let’s not become like the pharises that missed Him even though “they thought they knew it all”. He’s the one who knows it all and He is the one who is worthy. Give Him the Glory and Merry Christmas to all who do partake and blessings to you that abstain. In Christ’s Spirit and Love,

    Lisa M.

  7. Hey again All:

    Just wanted to add, …”It’s all about Him, His coming, His living, His death, His ressurection, His ascension, & His soon return”. It’s all about Him, let’s celebrate that everyday (as I believe most of us on this blog do). Bless His Holy Name. We live in an awesome time….darkness all around us, yet the flame of faith in the God/Man Jesus the Messiah, burns brightly in our hearts and we yearn for Him and for His return. Even the darkness of Isis cannot extiguish the love, faith, and belief of a 5 year old in the face of death by beheading…how much more should we as adults serve Him with abandon, with every single ounce of life we have in us giving praise to His name, no matter what we face. So yes, those of us that celebrate, I believe do so with these very issues in mind…We serve an awesome, victorious, living Savior who hasn’t abandoned us. He desires that we rise up as the Church and declare His goodness in the face of the enemy and celebrate His wonderous deeds. It’s not over, it’s just beginning for us. Hallalujah!! Celebrate that!!

    • my heart so “HEAVY” and yet proud of our faithful soldiers! Thank you Corey for this eye opening video, my dad is a disabled vet from the Korean War with two Purple Heart. I’m so very proud of my dad. Whenever i would say to him what a dirty shame what had happend to him he would tell me what happend to the guy in front of him and the guy behind him WAS A DIRTY SHAME…they never came home alive! I cried through out this video seeing all the pain of these families and the overwhelming number of our fallen soldiers!!

  8. Whether it’s today or yesterday or perhaps tomorrow for others…celebrate the fact and the truth that Jesus Christ does exist, for Father God, created Him who laid down His life for us to live from the beginning–the Word. He is available 24/7–just call on Him, thank Him for all He’s done and will do on our behalf.

    Call on Him today, for He’s waiting for you to call out to Him…

    Merry Christmas!

  9. if theres a campaign against the creator and his creation, its by the fallen cherub and the Eph6:12 powers – for our battle is not against rockefeller and gates, but against the ones who left the very presence of almighty god.

    i had forgotten this truly thrilling verse: “For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.” – which confirms our testimony regarding this world, and later in chapter 8 uses this impulse to encourage us to live victorious lives, amazingly melding our mortal and eternal lives together as only a middle easterner could. and if we can find no more witness to agree with his word and spirit and our testimony, we have the very rocks which cry out His name!

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