The Coming One World Religion?

Pope abbas PeresCommentary & Analysis


L.A. Marzulli

“In this, the birthplace of the Prince of Peace” the Pope said in Bethlehem’s Manger Square following a May 25 Mass, ” I wish to invite you, President Mahmoud Abbas, together with President Shimon Peres, to join me in heartfelt prayer to God for the gift of peace.”

We know from scripture that at the time of the end there will be a one world religion.  Think about it, until modernity it was impossible to accomplish this.  Now, with the tele-communications and satellite network in place, it’s no longer a pipe dream.

Prophecy tells us that at the time of end Jerusalem will be a cup of trembling.  Take a good look at the picture above.  The Pope, Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, and Simon Peres President of Israel are gathered together.  What is  being discussed is land for peace, with Jerusalem as the prize.  The Israeli’s claim Jerusalem as their capital and so do the Palestinians.  Take a good look at this interview from Egypt’s now-defunct Muslim Brotherhood, where the Imam Highazi is proclaiming Jerusalem will be the capital of the United Arab States:

It seems clear to me this is the objective of clerics like Highazi and others in the Muslim world. So how can there be peace when HAMAS and Hezbollah and radical clerics like Highazi want the destruction of the Jewish state?

Enter Pope Francis who invited Abbas and Peres to the Vatican for a garden chat.  It makes great press and the story went viral.  However, Francis has stated that Muslims worship the one true god.

I have a major red flag here, and thus am very suspect of anything else the man has to say.  Since Luther nailed his thesis to the door of the Wittenberg Church hundreds of years ago, there has been a split between the Catholic Church and the Protestant Reformers.   The history of the Catholic church is a sad tale of avarice and corruption and with all due respect to Catholics, The Catholic Church instigated the Crusades, and the Inquisition, both of which are black marks upon the church and have nothing to do with the Jesus of the Bible.

Then there’s the rape of South America, by the Spanish conquistadors, all for the lust of gold.  What happened to the native populations in the name of Christianity is another sad, black mark on Christendom.  It has nothing to do with the Jesus I know…

Dave Hunt’s ground breaking book, A Woman Rides the Beast, makes a case that the Catholic Church is the Harlot, described in the Book of Revelation.  These are strong words, but when we examine the text in Revelation and compare it to what the Catholic Church has done, over the centuries, it seems to make sense.  Is there any other organization that fits the description given to us in Revelation?

In closing todays post:  All of us want peace.  The Middle East and specifically the Israeli/Palestinian conflict must me tiresome after decades of strife.  However, this is precisely what the prophecy in the Bible warns us will happen in the last days.

The Pope may have the most noblest of intentions, or perhaps there is another agenda.  We know that the Vatican is positioning itself to embrace an alien saviour.  Cris Putnam and Tom Horns book, Exo-Vaticana, reveals this fact.


The one organization that is poised to create a one-world religion, that would embrace ET, at the moment, is the Catholic Church.  I don’t believe there is any other religion that can fill those shoes.

When ET arrives—and I believe it may be soon—everything changes.  It is the point of no return and could it be that the Catholic Church will be there to pick up the pieces and bring everyone into the new one-world religion.

Out of all the religions on the planet, Rome is poised to fulfill this role.  She is wealthy, full of pomp and ceremony, has a form of religion, and is almost 2000 years old.  She is full of the traditions of men and the Pope meets with the heads of state from all the nations of the earth.

In the end what was written will come to pass, what was foretold will unfold.  Keep Watching…


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99 thoughts on “The Coming One World Religion?

  1. While I realize the Catholic Church has many black marks against her, the issue of the Crusades I thought was started by the Muslims who were about to take over Europe. They were killing and burning Christian settlements and when they took Jerusalem that’s when the Church got involved. I am aware of what the knights Templar did to the Jews along the way to Jerusalem, though.

    • While seeming to ignore Islamic history of conquests and atrocities, whenever people bring up The Crusades to try to point them out (particularly to believing Christians) as a black stain on Christianity, I tell them the Crusades happened over for only couple of hundred years – Jihad has been non-stop since the 7th Century!

    • Peter….you are right on the money!

      Jihad is the muslim way of world domination. “If You don’t convert to Islam, then you lose your head.” ( What a pain in the neck too! )

      ISLAM is what we see dominating “The Tribulation period”…..people being beheaded because they did not take the mark of the beast.
      In reality, ISLAM has been murdering “infidels” for many, many, many centuries !!!!

      THE BEAST is the Revived Ottoman Empire … which is the Coming Islamic Caliphate … coming out of TURKEY…to rule AGAIN.
      And TURKEY will be the place from which the anti-CHRIST arises to rule over the Islamic Caliphate.

      Please ….

    • Just studied this with my 12-year-old daughter for world history. According to our text, published by a conservative Christian organization, the crusades were the result of the popes’ desire for more land and wealth and power. The Church started it, not the Jews or the Muslims, and the popes in power at the time manipulated commoners into joining the cause with disastrous results. Sad but true. This particular publisher doesn’t “favor” Muslims; our previous unit was on the Byzantine empire and they did not mince words over the brutality of Muslim soldiers or the lies perpetuated by Islam.

    • HI, Kirk, Gulf Breeze Jen, and Gail.

      As a result of the 911 attacks in New York, there was a sudden attention given to Islamic terrorism, as though it was a suddenly new thing. I was surprised because I could recall events in the NEWS from when I was a kid in the ’70s – Black September/Munich Olympics, plane bombings/hijackings and PLO, OPEC members kidnapped, the Lebanon Civil War, Entebbe, Carlos The Jackal (operating on behalf of PLO and whomever) and so on – and thought to myself, why is the world suddenly up in arms about Islamic terrorists – they’ve been doing it through my whole lifetime? Only a couple of years before 911, I’d met some Christians who introduced me to books about the history of jihad (B’at Yeor, Fregosi, and others – authors). I was very surprised as I had no idea of this vast history. It seems the only time people (in the West) raised their eyebrows about Islam and its associated violence, was when the Ayatollah Khomeini issued a death warrant (fatwah) on Salmon Rushdie for his Satanic Verses novel’s brief reference to Islam (which probably not many people read or heard about till made the news – and it was considered a difficult and boring read. Rushdie must have been very grateful for the publicity). Rushdie’s next book was called ‘Buddha is a fat b^*%$d!’

      I find it suspicious that practically none of its history was taught at (public) school – except for a little bit about Saladdin with more about the Crusades (no mention about the RC’s Children’s Crusade), and maybe some about the Ottoman (but based around the subject of Gallipoli/ANZAC and the WWI – no mention about genocide of Armenians and the Greeks prior to and during WWI). Was this a deliberate intent to suppress the history from not being taught at schools? To keep people ignorant of truth and history, “nothing to see here, nothing to worry about, carry on”, to not be alert? (and then the later forced ignorance through introduction of political correctness laws such as racial vilification, EEO, principles for cultural diversity etc).

      Also, I’ve wondered if the Pale Horse (and its rider) are symbolic for Islam – Kloros (Greek) = green = pale. Apart from a few mid-east nations flags bearing the dictatorial colours of red, white, and black (like the NAZI flag) a majority of the Islamic countries’ flags are green. It has historically been a parasite (particularly in Western Countries in the modern era – where political correctedness laws now protect it from being questioned/criticized and thinking-people are labelled as racist, bigoted, etc for raising issues).

      Kirk, I don’t know if Turkey/Ottoman Empire is the Beast – they’ll make a return, though they’ll be competing with the Babylonian Iraqis, the Persian Irans, the Meccan Arabs – they all want to be the Caliphate, and Persia and Mecca have lead as Caliphate (of which there is still a long hatred shared with each other). Turkey does have a fair size population, and a large military, and increasing tensions within its own politics and population, so no doubt they’ll be players of some sort of threats/actions – I think they (Islam) will diminish themselves further with their infighting and even its own members, and the rest of the world, will get sick of it all and embrace and become subservient and useful idiots (as a majority, unknowingly, are now) to the Revived Roman Empire (which included the North Africas and Middle East in its old Roman Empire). Wondering when the day will be that the aspiring, potential, wanna-be killer-suicide bombers will finally turn to their bosses and say, “Why don’t you do it, instead – lead by example”? Poor fools. The Vatican’s long and primary desire to rule over and from Jerusalem has been there since before Muhammad came along. Then again, I wonder too, if the Moors who conquered Spain and after ruling it for 400 years became the Jesuits military order under Ignatius Loyola, you know, the ‘wolves in sheeps clothing, imposters, who then went on to their diabolical murder and torture of millions of Christians and Jews in the Spanish Inquisition, in the name of God (on behalf of the RC, and Lucifer, after a many generations conspiracy plan to create another blame on future Christians and another excuse to later convince people not to become believers in Christ with the “but you Christians did this evil in the past”?

      (just watched that Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit flick last night, and it’s interesting how they bring up the Ukraine/Russia pipeline economy issues and include Turkey as a threatening competitor to their economics – with a bit of terrorist scheming thrown in. A disappointing movie overall (and Kenneth Branagh’s exaggerated Russian accent is almost as bad as my effort – that’s very badski), but interesting in some aspects in light of current events going on re Ukraine/Russia – and Turkey, waiting (relatively) quietly on the Syrian and Russian Sidelines. Also interesting is the film’s reference to Lamentations (Old Testament) which, according to wikipedia, is a “collection of poetic laments for the destruction of Jerusalem” although in the film, Lamentations is code for terrorist bomb attack in Manhattan/Wall Street [not Jerusalem].

      I like what H.G. Wells wrote in his ‘A Short History of the World’* (published about 1922) to summarize/paraphrase… (about the Holy Bible and Jesus) “…the reader is compelled to accept it as the truth”. As for the chapter on Muhammad, Wells wrote: There is no doubting that Muhammad was passionate about his beliefs but he possessed no divine qualities whatsoever.

      [*and to the person I lent that book, I’d like it back, thanks!] 🙂

      God Bless!


  2. It’s worse…
    – the head of the orthodox catholic church is also there not shown in the picture
    – the location is in the NNW “V” of the “pontifical academy of sciences” (pas)
    – from the fountain in the courtyard of the pas one point on “the rose” leads to mecca
    – another point leads to rosslyn chapel… make of that whatever
    – the pas is open to the demonic: alien brothers, pro-abortion, pro-evolution, even atheism
    – pantheistic rituals on Pentecost would be desecration – were true christians involved
    – there’s a reported tie to the gulen movement in islam (see last blog)

    And the gulen movement are such “nice” monsters … see for yourselves.

    • You have piqued my curiosity, but I can’t detangle your elusive bread crumbs to the gluten monster. Have a more… direct… link?

    • If you were more stoneD and less Dragon you would have ate them breadcrumbs and encountered the gluten monster.
      Back to level 1 with you laddie.

    • Nome, I looked up that gulen movement, sorta like an islamic opus dei. And centered in Turkey. Interesting.

    • I had a dream that I entered my local catholic church, it had been turned into a restaurant serving chinese people. Lol I have no idea how my subconcious came up with that one.

      I had another dream where I was trying to get my family out of the church when a giant demonic hand pulled my wife back in. I had no idea why, then I heard Perry Stone say, in dreams, your wife represents the bride of Christ. Just thought I’d share.

    • I have never invested the time to learn google earth to see where these geomantic lines go, so please keep us posted on your findings, very interesting!

    • Dry bread crumbs in the pre-coffee hours of the morning… not even new spectacles help. Gluten. Now I’m post-coffee AND post-hot chocolate. Gulen!


    • here’s more…

      Center for Strategic and International Studies — An Overview of the Gulen Movement

      After the collapse of the iron curtain in the late 1980s, with the educational institutions established and run there, the movement became transnational, expanding particularly into the Central Asian states with Turkic cultural background. In parallel to the institutionalization and transnationalization, the movement heavily engaged in Interfaith Dialog….

      In every city and town of Turkey, it is possible to encounter some educational facility or other cultural activity that can be associated with or inspired by the movement. The Movement grew from a handful of individuals around Gulen in the late 1960s to millions in the 2000s….

      Gulen represented and taught the following:
      1. Reforming oneself and thus becoming a better believer and practitioner of faith. When examined, it can easily be determined that Gulen’s rhetoric focused this aspect the most.
      2. Serving something greater than yourself. Do not simply care for your own interest, but strive toward a greater vision….
      3. Education is the key to the solution of our main problems: Ignorance, division, poverty. And the key to making education work for the better is to have teachers and administrators who “represent” (temsil in Turkish) the values cherished by the people. Invest in education. If you are young, able and willing, choose teaching as your profession. If you are a business person, support a school financially. If you are a parent, encourage sound education and for that help build a school in your locality. In short, everybody could do something about any education project.

      Later other projects, such as media, hospitals, disaster relief and poverty assistance were initiated, and appealed to every segment of the population.

      4. Not expecting everything from government. As a participant in a civil initiative, do something yourself, and do not delegate your responsibilities totally to the government, in similar tone to Kennedy’s famous saying “ask not what your country can do for you, but as what you can do for your country.” If you are a business person, do business, form partnerships and holdings, become rich and give charitably, with no expectation in return, back to your community.
      5. As opposed to isolation from or being reactionary to public life, being present at every institution of our society with the intention to serve, including the judiciary, bureaucracy, military, media, art and business. The observant citizens of the country have shunned these institutions out of assumed pietistic concerns. They tended to send their children mostly to Qur’an schools and Imam/Preacher schools. As a consequence, their expectations or worldview have been seldom valued or represented in the state or public institutions.
      6. A successful synthesis or integration of religion, modernity patriotism, democracy, science, arts, secularism and positive action. According to Bolak, Gulen’s combination of faith, spirituality and sciences offered the best expression of Turkish understanding of Islam.
      7. Outreach, inclusiveness, outward looking, integrationist. From community to movement, from the transnational movement to whole humanity. Accepting everybody as they are, in their respective position.

      Everybody Gives: It is a principle within the movement that everybody contributes something of their time and financial resources. For a businessman, a typical contribution rate of 10% may mean a million dollar a year. In addition to the financial pledge, the business people are encouraged to do outreach visits to other business people and introduce the movement projects. For a blue-collar worker, a 5% pledge
      may mean fifty dollars a month. No one is obliged or coerced to give. All donations or contributions are free and kept a good record of that institution it was donated, but not a central board of committee of the whole movement….

      Noteworthy Stances of Gulen
      1. Public condemnation of 9/11, media interviews, book, and BinLaden.
      2. Promotion of education even at the expense of headscarf for girls.
      3. EU membership of Turkey. Cooperation of civilizations.
      4. No return from democracy.
      5. Women can have any role in the society, including judge and president.
      6. Non-violence since the inception of the movement, that is since 1970s.
      7. Interfaith dialogue initiative.
      8. Spiritual depth in faith. Called a modern day Rumi by Sefik Can.
      9. Science and faith in harmony….

      Movement participants see the state as the guarantor of order in the society, individual rights, human rights, justice and equity.

      Gulen has been a pioneer of interfaith dialog in Turkey and abroad. … Due to the significance of his initiatives, he received a personal audience with the late pope John Paul II. These brave moves were not without a cost. Gulen was criticized by radical circles as a hidden Christian, or a hidden cardinal of Rome.

      other refs…

      Compare “christian(?) dominionism, socialism, etc. etc.

    • Nome, combine this about Gulen and what Kirk said in the first comment thread. Very enlightening.

  3. Jewish, Muslim and Christian

    Recently I went to visit the oldest “synagogue” building in Europe still standing, (Santa María la Blanca) in Toledo, Spain (Moorish architecture) which is now owned and preserved by the Catholic Church, there they had a little room with and artistic exposition, as its center piece was a colored drawing of Abraham with Sarah to the left and to the right a beautiful Egyptian dressed as a princess (Hagar) as I entered seated at a small desk was a Nun wearing a cross and in the middle of the cross was the star of David. Not expecting to see what I saw my mind was a little confused in recognizing this merger if you will, since I went to see a Jewish site.

    • Wow! Excellent in your face catch! So wonderful the Holy Spirit allowed you to see that first hand!! Actually there is no such thing as the ‘star of “David”. He did not have a star. Acts 7:43 and Amos 5:26 For telling the truth, this is why Stephen was murdered!

    • Deirdre, I see your point about the star of David yet that seems to be what it is generally referred to as. I am not entirely convinced that the Star of Remphan and the star of David are one and the same, how did you come to this conclusion if I may be so bold to ask?

    • I take GOD’s word. The other day I also heart Mike Hoggard say that the issue with the star of david, is mentioned in Jewish Encyclopedia (that it is as the Scriptures say it is–star of remphan). Lastly, if we worship GOD in Spirit and in Truth, why do we need symbols? We don’t. I hope that helps?

    • Deirdre, thanks but not much help, neither God’s word nor the Jewish Encyclopedia connects the Star of Remphan with the star of David at least that I can find. The point is documented authoritative proof is what I am looking for considering that many make the claim they are. “why do we need symbols” That’s a good question even God uses symbols I suppose its as simple as its a language.
      Since we are on the topic it is interesting that Heathrow airport has a double hexagram design.


      Doug Krieger who posted here last week has an interesting article on the Star of David.

    • I don’t buy the connection of the hexagon at the north pole of our sun system’s most obvious ringed planet is a proof
      – the planet is the Creator’s and not some idol or enemy angel called “saturn”

      note Strong’s…
      – Definition: Rephan, the Saturn of later mythology.
      – “”

      and wiki…
      – “”
      – parent article goes into why a hexagon
      – other comments on the web compare cymatic patterns
      – “”
      – or just search cymatic (sound resonance patterns, like sand on a drum)

      I do get that saturn = chronos ~ kronos = father time = satan … false elder
      – and of course a hexagon suggests a clock face

      It’s also a stretch to conclude the Shield of David is the Seal of Solomon used in the occult… That became broadly connected to the Jews in the middle ages. Though many occultist might assert a connection. Probably more like the perverse trying to co-opt the rainbow — which is God’s sign.


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      Meanwhile in Switzerland

    • Sent from my Texas Instruments 99/4a PC – far superior to Matt’s Commodore 64! (I know… sarcasm doesn’t translate so well in text) 🙂


      Azureceu, it’s going to get interesting among the local spectators when the referee makes a bad call against Brazil’s team. I see that, for some time now, the locals have been up-in-arms over lack of expenditure on facilities to look after their welfare (i.e. hospitals, other services). Keep on your toes!

  4. No question in my mind what we’re seeing here is groundwork being laid down for one world politics and religion. I always have and always will believe that the RCC or whatever it morphs into will be a huge, critical component of that final entity of sorts. It’s obvious what direction the Jesuits and this Pope are going to move things towards but it isn’t just them. The universalism is showing up everywhere including from some top, lead, very popular “evangelicals” including Mr. “Don’t want to be negative” and the other guy that’s “America’s pastor” in the CFR (?!) doing everything but kissing the pope’s ring now and effusing about how he “doing everything right” and so on.

    They all sound the same, too, when you get down to it.

    It’s close, folks. Bottom line.

    • “”
      Plotting Nicea III Could Be Pope Francis’s Masterstroke

      This is “hostile witness.”

      Candida Moss, the writer, is Jesuit for all intents and purposes. No, seriously. Schooling and all of it.

      So take this for what it’s worth.

  5. I watched a video of David Wilkerson speaking prophetically about a vision he had and he said the ‘superworld church’ that is to emerge will initially be a cooperative charities program and will change to political. I thought that was interesting.


    Come out of her, if a ‘church’ holds false apostolic demagoguery, who love to lord themselves over you, get out. When their ‘holiest’ church, st Peter’s church has a statue of Jupiter as Peter this is an exact representation of what they are doing by and large: they are false. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing: leave and shake the dust off your feet.

    • He then speaks about how practicing homosexuals will be welcomed in this church. I just read on drudge this morning that a transgendered priest is going to speak at the National Cathedral…the rev Eugene Robinson will be there as well. (who is now divorcing his husband)

    • Crazy isn’t it!! But keep going! False apostolic demagoguery, includes the worship of the goddess through….xmas and easter…do the homework…its not that hard!!! Peace to HIS people!

  6. I must agree, the Catholic Church is the strongest most largest influential organization that can carry or usher in the New World Order religion by combining Islam & Christianity (combination of Catholics, Presbyterians, Jehovah’s Witness, including the Jewish, etc) into Chrislam.

    I have been keeping up with articles relating to the mass murder of orphans, 150,000+, recently unearthed in Canada and Spain that have been used by Catholic priests, including the 2 most recent popes, for sacrificial purposes.

    The international community has already been holding public hearings investigating crimes in the Catholic Church in Brussels…

    Kevin Annette: Brussels child genocide …

    • Hate to ask a silly question but.. is this guy, Kevin Annett, fair dinkum*?

      I would have thought, with the allegations and the listing of names of those allegedly involved and these proceedings (as claimed by Annett) would have been mentioned all over the media and in big bold black text headlines on the front page of newspapers (as done with the recent Jimmy Saville, and current, Rolf Harris, cases broadcast worldwide in news).

      Apart from some youtube yarns with their various allegations re the child abuse organizations in Belgium, I’ve been unable to find any other reports. Unless it’s just being kept secret and suppressed (because of alleged involvement by Vatican, political, and royal figures) not to say, I wouldn’t put it past them to do such things.

      Interesting to me – having recorded/transcribed hundreds of child abuse criminal cases with courts (over years) – but somehow (in the years of my work experience) no accused were listed with a religious, political/statesman or royal title. Unless there was a deliberate order (made by judge) to suppress the rank and title of the accused being listed publicly (which would be nothing new under the sun).

      In Australia, in more recent years the RC Church has finally had to make admissions to ts handling of clergy who committed pedophile acts (which was for a long time dealt with internally by the ‘Church’ and hidden from the public – a bit like cops who do an internal investigation on its own bad cops) – and long serving Cardinal/Archbishop of Australia, George Pell, who would have presided for many years whilst some of these abuses took place, has since been promoted to a safe and comfortable position in an admin office at the Vatican. Sadly, more recently there is another mob accused of mass child abuse – the Christian Brothers (schools/orphanages – another Catholic affiliate) allegedly taking place through 1940s-60s and coming to light now with demands for another federal inquiry/commission (as was/is being done with the other RC Church cases, here). I think the Salvo’s had some bad reports not so long ago, too.

      [another pathetic excuse for people to ignorantly blame God (for what some people, and the ‘Church’ have done) and deny the truth of Salvation in Christ]

      * ‘fair dinkum’ – for real, absolute, honest, true

  7. For the record…
    – we’re seeing the beast from different angles
    – it’s a human collective joined and run by the enemy angels
    – they will kill the great multitude that come out of great tribulation
    – that means — they kill the end time saints
    – they may be fooling themselves (blind leading the blind)
    – and though they think they’re very nice people, so tolerant, so kumbaya…
    – they’re the same group responsible for the blood bath and mega death of abortion
    – such as tolerating leaders and members in their ranks that are unrepentant murderers

    They will kill us. Certainly the martyrs. Either directly or indirectly.
    – and the multiple testimonies of history, current events, and prophecy
    – show “no change” … they remain the children of their spiritual parents
    – better to suffer at the hands of an enemy for doing right than wrong
    – the mission never changes … help Christ with His rescues of the lost

  8. Nicky Gumbel’s Alpha Course

    Being Absorbed by Roman Catholic Ecumenism

    Resources for Refuting New Wine Theology, Charismatic Excesses,
    Roman Catholicism and Alpha Course Ecumenism

    By Chris Lawson

    (Updated November 21, 2013)


    Damian Thompson: “But doesn’t Holy Trinity sometimes use the Alpha Course to poach Catholics?

    Nicky Gumbel: “‘No! When they do Alpha I say to them: do not come to HTB but go back to your Catholic parish.
    It’s part of the Church and I love the whole Church.’”

    – Alpha male: Can Nicky Gumbel and Holy Trinity Brompton save the Church of England?,
    The Spectator, December 15, 2012 (

    “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you,
    let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again:
    If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.”

    – Galatians 1:8–9

    In 2004, as a foreign missionary serving overseas in Edinburgh, Scotland, I saw firsthand the incredible apostasy occurring in many churches that were using Nicky Gumbel’s Alpha Course. As the record shows, churches that host a similar but more biblical course called Christianity Explored, generally are more biblical and more scripturally based churches, as far as Christian doctrine and practice are concerned. This of course is very commendable. Praise the LORD for Christian leaders who want to be biblical and separate from apostasy and false teachers.

    To the contrary, churches that host the Alpha Course often times tend to be more liberal, more ecumenical, more emerging church friendly, and more open to pretty much anything that blows through the Church, regardless of how dangerous it is. I observed this growing trend first-hand over a four and a half year period while living in the United Kingdom. I am not trying to make a blanket statement here, as this does not of course apply to everychurch. The point here is that a general trend has been observed, and I, and many others have seen it up close. The Bible tells us where this type of ecumenical tolerance for unbiblical teachings and practices comes from, but unfortunately, the Alpha Course does not seem to separate from it. cont……

  9. I consider Islam to be Satan’s present to the world to counter Christ.
    I suppose the Catholic Church (I haven’t read Dave’s book) could run a distant second.

  10. Gross, this was on drudge, some satanic ritual abusers are being outed, let’s hope the higher ups are next:

  11. My grandfather who is of Mexican Indian heritage (chichimeca Indian) says Catholicism is a slave religion. Regardless of his views my mom was raised Catholic. My brother, dad, and I were raised Catholic. All four of us didn’t know the love of Yeshua until we left the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church did nothing for me spiritually. I felt bound by rituals. That’s not to say all feel or have felt this way. As for my grandpa, we are still praying for his salvation. He is against anything that has to do with Jesus. Pray for him. I thought this post was right on LA.

    • Kristen, seems like those who are in ‘church’ are more confused /blinded , than those out of church. Praying your Grandpa comes to JESUS! Just keep loving him! “Show him JESUS”

    • Deirdre you are right on that one. Thank you for praying! He’s getting old and more difficult with his attitude haha 🙂 But we still keep loving the old grump.

  12. Pastor Joel Osteen, Mormon Senator, Other US Leaders Meet With Pope Francis in Rome

    Joel Osteen, bestselling motivational author and evangelical pastor of America’s fastest-growing megachurch, was among a small group that included Mormon Sen. Mike Lee, to meet privately with Pope Francis at the Vatican in Rome, this week.

    Osteen said he was honored to meet with Pope Francis, who leads the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics.

    “I like the fact that this pope is trying to make the church larger, not smaller. He’s not pushing people out but making the church more inclusive. That resonated with me,” Osteen told the Houston Chronicle.

    The megachurch pastor, who ministers to 52,000 worshippers weekly and reaches millions through his books and television broadcast.

    I guess the Pope will meet with just about anyone these days,,,what’s next a meeting Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme??

    “I like the fact that this pope is trying to make the church larger, That resonated with me,”

    translation ” I like the fact a larger church brings in more cash flow. That resonates with me,”

  13. We don’t need peace prayers. Israel is the victim and rather than continuing to tell them to disarm and to exercise restraint, the world front including the USA and NATO and UN should be telling the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood backed terrorist to disarm and quit murdering Israeli civilians….did the Pope care to discuss this point?

  14. More on the eMERGEnt nature of all this.
    This is where/how we ‘protestants’ are all are being nurtured into this mystic Catholic/New Age cauldron…

    Postmodernism anyone?

    • …shorter 2hr version with additional/different facts.

      Very CRUCIAL viewing.
      THIS unfortunately is where our coming battle amongst ‘bretheren’ will be waging.


    • I watched this video some while back.

      If a person doesn’t STAND FOR SOMETHING….then he’ll fall for anything !!! That is the way of the world.

      DOCTRINE is CRUCIAL. Doctrine is simply “teaching”….and it is the explanation of what a person believes…based on SCRIPTURE.

      What a CHRISTIAN believes is found in THE BIBLE….GOD’s WORD. Not some mish-mash of people’s experiences or ideas.

      People that constantly question The Word have no solid base on which to stand, and are easily deceived since they are like Eve.
      Adam did NOT do his job in preparing his wife to stand solid on The Word of God, and they BOTH fell into the scheme of the devil.

      One example is Rob Bell…who is a “ding-a-ling”…. because he constantly questions the AUTHORITY and TRUTH of The Word of God.

      Rob Bell needs to read:
      >>>> 1 Timothy 3:14-15, …4:1, and 6-16, …5:17-18, …6:20-21
      >>>> 2 Timothy 2:15, …3:16-17, …4:1-4
      >>>> Titus 1:5-9, …2:6-8
      ……………………………….and 2 Peter 1:19-21. >>>> Actually …..THE WHOLE BIBLE ….. is TRUE too……….Rob “Ding-a-ling” Bell.

      Heck, I even believe the MAPS !!!

  15. If a priest isn’t allowed to marry, then do widows have a tendency to look at the priest in a motherly way, and then want to name the church in their wills? Just questioning if this policy is about the money?

  16. I have a friend who was catholic. She remembers serving as an altar girl and remembers being puzzled when she saw a streak of what looked to be dried blood on the side of the altar. This was a cold Catholic Church of people with money, etc. I remember looking at a church directory with pics of their members and they all looked creepy.

  17. Kirk… just wanted to thank you for posting that Andrew Wommack teaching on “Changing the way we think”, Excellent, and I had had no problem with the sound.

    thanks again,
    God Bless you Brother.

  18. **** All 4 Videos are AWESOME to understand the role ISLAM will continue to play in these last days !!!! ****

    Babylon the Great & The Turkish Antichrist >>>> EVERYONE MUST UNDERSTAND THIS VIDEO !!!!


    Mark of the Beast Islamic Connection Part 1 & 2 >>>> More details that continue from previous video above!


    Islam is the Mark of the Beast! >>>> VERY CLEAR EXPLANATION !!!


    Mark of the Beast Connection To Islam? >>>> MORE DETAILS TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR !!!

    • Kirk

      Does Mecca fit everyone of the below traits for Babylon??

      As you go over each and all of these traits aks yourself which country fits ALL of these the best?

      MECCA Saudi Arabia or NY, USA?

      I think you will see it is the U.S.

      1.Called a whore/harlot (Revelation 17:1, 5; 19:2).
      2.Once tender and delicate, but no more (Isaiah 47:1).
      3.Clothed in gorgeous apparel and precious stones (Revelation 17:4, 18:16).
      4.Whole earth is made drunk with her fornication (Jeremiah 51:7; Revelation 17:2-4; 19:2).
      5.She sits on many waters, ruling many peoples, nations, and tongues (Jeremiah 51:13; Revelation 17:1, 5).
      6.She sits on 7 mountains/kingdoms/nations (Revelation 17:9).
      7.She sits on a beast (Revelation 17:3).
      8.Has a great voice; influences many (Jeremiah 51:55).
      9.Reigns over the kings of the Earth (Revelation 17:18).
      11.Land abundant in treasure (Jeremiah 50:37, 51:13; Revelation 18:14,17).
      12.Merchants made rich by her (Revelation 18:3; 18:17-19).
      13.Leading center for commodity trade goods (Revelation 18:11-13).
      14.A Great City (Revelation 14:8; 17:18; 18:10-21), but has many cities (Jeremiah 50:32). Note: Just as Ancient Babylon, she has chief cities which symbolically and literally represent the empire.
      15.Land of mighty men (Jeremiah 50:36; 51:30).
      16.Land of mixed peoples/immigrants (Jeremiah 50:16, 37).
      17.Land of farmers/agriculture (Jeremiah 50:16).
      18.Land of craftsmen/manufacturing (Revelation 18:22).
      19.Land of musicians/music (Revelation 18:22; Isaiah 14:11).
      20.Land of waters (Jeremiah 50:38; 51:32, 36).
      21.Land of deep sea-port(s) (Revelation 18:10,17).
      22.Land of slaves (Revelation 18:13). Note: Could be literal African slaves, but also citizen-slaves to national debt/banking systems/bureaucracy.
      23.Land of vanity and pleasure (Isaiah 47:8; Revelation 18:7).
      24.Esteems/glorifies herself (Revelation 18:7).
      25.Grown fat (Jeremiah 50:11). Note: which country’s population is the most over-weight in the world and accumulates the most “stuff”?
      26.Lays heavy burden/yoke on the elderly (Isaiah 47:6).
      27.Land of liars and falsehood (Jeremiah 50:36; 51:17).
      28.Deceived by own wisdom and knowledge (Isaiah 47:10). Note: uses science to discredit the Creator?
      29.Insane with idols (Jeremiah 50:38; Daniel 5:23). Note: Materialism, entertainment, sports, etc?
      30.King/leaders uses divination (Ezekiel 21:21).
      31.King/leaders do not esteem יהוה (Daniel 5:23).
      32.Lucifer is her king (Isaiah 14:4,12)
      33.Devours other nations’ resources (Isaiah 14:8).
      34.Deceives nations/peoples with sorcery/drugs/pharmakeia (Isaiah 47:12; Revelation 18:23).
      35.Trusts in wickedness (Isaiah 47:10). See: What is Wickedness?
      36.Inhabited by the children of Judah (the Jews) and the children of 10-Israel (Jeremiah 50:1-20,25; 51:5-6,10,45; Isaiah 48:20; Revelation 18:4). Note: besides the nation of Israel, where do most Jews reside currently?
      37.Fears יהוה, but serve idols at the same time (2 Kings 17:30-41).
      38.Becomes arrogant against יהוה (Jeremiah 50:29, 31-32).
      39.Tries to hide her nakedness and shame (Isaiah 47:3). Note:Tens of millions of unborn murdered and hidden from public view?
      40.Ignorant of sudden doom/destruction (Isaiah 47:7-11; Jeremiah 51:39-41; Revelation 18:7).
      41.Sins reach unto heaven (Revelation 18:5).
      42.Belief of immunity to invasion; dwells carelessly (Isaiah 47:8).

    • Kirk,

      Where does mot of the world’s trade take place? Mecca???? I do not thinks so….

      Rev 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her (Babylon) ; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
      Rev 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
      Rev 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

      More gold is traded in one day at the NY commodities exchange than all the rest of the world combined.

      More silver and copper than all the rest of the world combined.

    • Here are some relevant facts about the U.S and how why it matches up with Babylon.

      There are more Jews living in the U.S than in Israel just as it was in Babylon.

      The chief female deity for Babylon is known as Ishtar The Goddess of personal freedom or liberty.

      Who do we have an idol of ? and Is one of our most famous icon or idols?

      We all know …….. The statue of Liberty in what harbor? NY…

      UN moved into its headquarters to NY.

      Statue of Liberty built by a freemason.

      The free Masonic ideal of the Goddess liberty of Rome know as Libertas. The Romans borrowed that concept from Babylon

      A statue of the Goddess Ishtar of Babylon.

      The largest Idol ever made by human hands.

      The 2nd largest idol, the statue of freedom on the capital building.

      We have a statue to Baal where our lawmakers meet known as the God Mars. Mars comes from Greeks Murdock.

      The capital building is copy-cated from the Roman design of the Pantheon.

      The ancient temple dedicated to the deities of Rome under occultist influences.

      The streets are laid out with Babylon symbolism.

      The second most popular temple in the Babylon was known as the white house.

      NASA is heavily involved in freemasonry.

      Buzz alderan a 33 degree mason engaged in a communion service to Ishstar.

      Standing guard at the entrance to the U.S. Capitol Building is a statue of the Greek god Mars. According to the U.S. Library of Congress and the Office of the Architect of the Capitol, the Greeks borrowed the god Mars and the religious dogmas from the Babylonians. In Babylon he was called by various language dialects: Mardok, Marduk, Merodach – and in the Aramaic he was Bel; in Hebrew his title was Baal.

      Did you know that there is an actual city in the U.S. called BABYLON?

      It’s called Babylon, New York. It is the gateway city to the u.s..


  19. You conveniently left out the incalculable good The Catholic Church has done for the world in the form of schools, hospitals, the first universities, countless outreach programs for the poor, etc. Sure, The Church was guilty of horrors centuries ago. But that was centuries ago. As Christians, aren’t we supposed to forgive the sins of the past? What you are preaching isn’t Christianity at all. It is fear mongering. As Christians we are supposed to be afraid of nothing for the Lord is with us. You seem to be afraid of a lot of things from the conquests of centuries past, to aliens, to a Pope who spends most of his time helping the poor. Instead of fighting a war against the Church and aliens, how about you help the poor like Jesus called us to.

  20. The Roman Catholic Church embraces the religious practices of the people it wants to convert or assimilate. Which is a brilliant practice when trying to create a One World Religion, but spiritual harlotry to a practicing Christian.

    Pope John Paul II made strides to bring in Buddhism and the Dali Lama. My catholic relatives regard the Dali Lama as another holy man like the pope–go figure. And now Pope Francis is embracing Islam and their female moon goddess Allah, (well, that’s who Allah used to be before Islam). It goes along perfectly with the Roman Catholic Church’s worship of the Queen of Heaven.

    It’s starting to come together perfectly. The Roman Catholic Church will be a part of this One World Religion. This One World Religion will be a New Age, multi-religion, Gaia worshiping harlot. But I don’t believe Pope Francis will be any sort of False Prophet. Pope Francis isn’t enough of a rock star. I think of who the False Prophet would resemble, it would have to be someone like the Dali Lama. That guy is a rock star. He’s loved and honored where ever he goes. What do you think?


    “Pope Francis: Pentecost shows us that the Church is full of surprises, called to evangelize” ………..

    “…the Church announces a new message, the resurrection of Christ, with a NEW language, that of UNIVERSAL LOVE.”


  22. Islam: What the West needs to know (full documentary) >>>> The multiple “faces” is ISLAM. Don’t be deceived.

  23. The ripples of Tsunami…


    McALLEN – Officials say diseases and infections are increasing with the flood of illegal immigrants crossing the border.

    Some of the immigrants being released from custody have not seen a doctor.

    CHANNEL 5 NEWS spoke with Marvin Lue-Sise and her two children at the McAllen bus station. The woman was traveling to San Francisco.

    Lue-Sise said she was trying to protect her children by coming to the United States from her native El Salvador.

    She said one of children suffered an attempted rape.

    Lue-Sise said her three days in a Border Patrol facility were not easy.

    “They eat and sleep on the floor,” she said.

    Lue-Sise said she and her family feel fine. She said they were not seen by a doctor while in Border Patrol custody.

    Lue-Sise said some of the immigrants at the Border Patrol facility were sick.

    “We are starting to see chicken pox, we have seen some people with the MRSA virus and we are starting to hear of measles,” said Chris Cabrera, National Border Patrol Council 3307 vice-president.

    Cabrera said it doesn’t surprise him that people are going unchecked.

    “Maybe she slipped through the cracks. Do I see that happening? Yeah … with this amount of traffic,” Cabrera said.

    The number of illegal immigrants at Border Patrol facilities has changed, but procedures have not, Cabrera said.

    “Our quarantined area consists of a yellow piece of caution tape. You have scabies on one side, you have chicken pox on the other and then everybody else just on the other side of that one string of tape,” Cabrera said.

    Cabrera says the number of those infected is too high.

    “If you took the population, the immigrant population we have, the infection rate is between 10 and 25 percent, depending on what day you go in there,” Cabrera said.

    He said the process should be changed before it’s too late.

    “Some of these people come from third-world countries that have other stuff that we have never seen. Hopefully that doesn’t start spreading
    ,” he said

    Cabrera said Border Patrol is doing everything it can.

    “Most of our stations are at four to five times capacity. They are just stretched to the limit. The chance of people falling through the cracks is greater,” he said.

    Cabrera said people going unchecked, though, is not acceptable.


    • “”

      WESLACO – The Department of Health and Human Services is requesting $2 billion to fund humanitarian efforts in the Rio Grande Valley.

      Senior White House administrators say the number of unaccompanied undocumented children crossing the border is overwhelming.

      A temporary holding facility at Fort Sill in Okla. is being retro-fitted to hold and care for children detained by Valley Border Patrol agents.

      More than a 1,000 children are being held at Lackland Air Force base in San Antonio. The cost of operating that facility is still unknown.

      By law, Border Patrol must transfer the unaccompanied children out of detainment centers and into HHS custody within 72 hours. Senior White House officials say that doesn’t always happen.

    • “”

      McALLEN – The city of McAllen is working with not-for-profit organizations to handle the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants released by federal agents at the bus station.

      The groups are being asked to provide on-site services to the illegal immigrants.

      Mario Delgado, McAllen’s assistant transit director, said the move is a desperate effort to get illegal immigrants the help they need.

      The Salvation Army is one of the agencies being asked to help. Officials with the organization said they are working out the logistics, but would not disclose any other information.

      “A lot of these people are depending on volunteers to get clothing and some food that they don’t have, so volunteers have taken the time to do that for them,” Delgado said.

      Delgado said federal agents drop off up to 200 illegal immigrants at the bus station every day. Some of those people spend the night at the station before boarding a bus.

      They’re not deporting them, nor sending back across the border…
      – they send them deeper into the states.

    • longtime Texas State Congressman Cuellar (D) interviewed on local talk radio by Sergio Sanchez (county GOP chair, Tea Party background)

      on what to do with the flood of undocumented…
      – points to deportation centers on the southern border of Mexico
      – since 70% are OTM (other than mexican)
      – admits that those which are caught are given orders to report to court later and never show
      – the discussion on children and babies omits who is letting them cross
      – simple fact is they come over via busses, taxis, or walking … along with the daily flow of shoppers
      – cites stat of 1200 per day caught … but not that most aren’t since they’re counted as shoppers

      note the stats for crossings in the local area into the US are…
      – 10 million vehicles per year (more than 25K per day)
      – 5 million pedestrians (more than 12K per day)

    • The issue is not illegal entry or overstaying visas…
      – it’s that a slave class is institutionalized
      – of the undocumented forced underground
      – without name, face, or voice…
      – as cheap labor (slaves), for smuggling contraband,
      – human trafficking (sex trade), and money laundering

      It’s not just the president doing this…
      – it’s the majority of the American people

    • Nome…

      Maybe the USA should just swap places with Mexico.

      Ohhhh….that’s right……….1/2 the equation is already being done!

      We could put Mexico City as Washington DC…….that way the criminals in DC would feel right at home!

      Lots of crime in DC….Lots of crime in Mexico City…….Even Swap!! 😉

    • “Maybe the USA should just swap places with Mexico”

      Yes indeed, this has already been done. In many parts in the US you would be hard pressed to recognize where you are, it looks just like the barrio anywhere in Mexico…

      Stand up and fight our corrupt government that insist on not protecting our borders!!

      AZ Gov Jan Brewer Disturbed, Outraged Feds Have No Plans to Stop Illegal Immigrant Dump

      On Friday, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer expressed outrage that not only was she not informed by federal officials that the government would be shipping illegal immigrants out of Texas and “dumping” them in her state, it has no plans to stop.

      Via Fox News:

      Federal officials told Brewer Friday that the practice will continue for the foreseeable future, and this weekend more than 1,000 illegal immigrant children will be “dumped” in Arizona. Adults and family units will also arrive, though Brewer was not told how many, her office said.

      Reports first surfaced last week that scores of illegal immigrants in Texas were being flown, bused and then abandoned out of state in Arizona and elsewhere. After learning of the practice, Brewer sent a scathing letter to the president on Monday posing a string of questions about the policy. Brewer said Friday what little she has learned since then has made her even more concerned.

      “This is a crisis of the federal government’s creation, and the fact that the border remains unsecure – now apparently intentionally – while this operation continues full-steam ahead is deplorable,” she said in a statement.

      Incredibly, according to Brewer, the Regime never informed her administration of their plan to bus illegals into her state, nor have they explained it.

      The governor is demanding answers from Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, and calling on the president to cease and desist.

      “I am disturbed and outraged that President Obama’s administration continues to implement this dangerous and inhumane policy, meanwhile neglecting to answer crucial questions our citizens demand and deserve,” she said.

      The Feds hijack state land to protect their open border policy while the states contend with illegals. Astounding. This is a result of Obama’s policies.

      I say stop them at the border and redirect those buses to Washington DC – home of the hand outs. Let the feds deal with them and see what non sense ensues then or even better yet, round up the illegals by the bus load and take them directly to Congressmans/womans and Senators houses and vacation homes and ANY property they own, invite them off the buses and kick in their door, tell them to make themselves at home, food and drink inside….
      They will get the message when the illegals squatters take over. They want amnesty, they can personally take care of them.. When the Federal Government imposes illegal activity on states, the states need to respond with lawsuits and action.
      They created the problem by not enforcing laws, let them deal with it.

      Educating Americans on the problems of uncontrolled immigration and offering solutions for sensible immigration reform.


  24. Eph.6

    [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    Rev.18 – There are also more and more places on this earth that are cursed…and are now…

    [2] …. Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    Monsters and Mysteries in America S01E04 Badlands – Highway 666, Black-eye kids, the Supersitions Mountains

  25. RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — In an upset for the ages, Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia, the second-most powerful man in the House, was dethroned Tuesday by a little-known, tea party-backed Republican primary challenger carried to victory on a wave of public anger over calls for looser immigration laws.

    “This is a miracle from God that just happened,” exulted David Brat, an economics professor, as his victory became clear in the congressional district around Virginia’s capital city.

    Score one for the good guys. This is why you don’t crawl into corner with a defeatist attitude…you want REAL change, fight for it. Go out and make a difference, scratch and claw, send emails, make phone calls, go door to door, work on a campaign , whatever it takes to get our country back from those in Washington that want to see it fail and turned into a third world country. . Refuse to accept failure in our government.

  26. Islam & Catholicism – Common Core

    Walter Veith exposes the symbols, architecture, and instruments
    – and in particular the common

    “” (Unity at ALL Cost?)

    Israeli President Shimon Peres, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Pope Francis and Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew

    plant “olive tree” of their false accord

    photo frames the pontifical academy of science (PAS) framed in background (cp coexist)
    “” (google map shows courtyard and “V” hedges)

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