UFO News: Alien Soldiers? You be the Judge…

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Presidential Election: Alien Soldiers exist says Gary McKinnon

Presidential Election: Alien Soldiers exist says Gary McKinnon : The Canadian National Newspaper

As U.S. Presidential candidates debated, UFOSightings Daily reported that Gary McKinnon “discovered files about twenty to thirty non-terrestrial officers (off world).” Mr. Waring elaborates on 16 October 2012 that Mr. McKinnon “saw their ranks, and ship to ship transfers off world.”

I watched the debates last night and here’s where I stand.  I believe it doesn’t really matter who is elected as the Military/Industrial complex along with the Federal Reserve, have been steering the “ship,” since JFK was gunned down in Dallas.  Eisenhower warned us of this as he was leaving office.

I will point out Candy Crowley’s siding with Obama – which by the way was wrong as the transcript from his speech in the Rose Garden, indicates he never called the Libyan attack an act of terrorism –  as a further indication how our media has a overwhleming liberal bias.  In the end, no matter who is in the oval office, we have endless war, a growing police state, oppressive taxes, and a country deeply divided.  Now onto the daily post!

This is an interesting bit of video in that it may expose what some of us have been saying for over a decade.  ET is here and is part of the Military/Industrial complex.  Gary McKinnon who is the UK hacker the US has been trying to extradite to stand trial, announced in this video, Alien soldiers exist.

This may be a stretch for some of us, but I have heard reports of this ever since I began researching Nephilim in the late 80’s.  What is interesting is this last line from the article:

The “controllers” were called ‘Archons’ by ancient Pagan Gnostics, based upon Dr. John Lash’s research that he documents on metahistory.org.

This begs the question, who were or are the Archons.  If we go to the guide-book to the supernatural, i.e. the Bible we find in Ephesians 6:12 this phrase: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities...

The Greek word for principalities is:  Arche is described: the first place, principality, rule, magistracy

a) of angels and demons

Is there a connection between principalities or, Arche/Archon’s and the realm of the Fallen Angels?  In my opinion there is and this is part of the coming great deception I have written about for over a decade now.  If McKinnon is giving us credible information, then it is ground breaking and creates a link to the fallen angels openly manifesting on the earth.  Jesus warns us it will be like the days of Noah when he returns.  What differentiates those days is the presence of the fallen angels on the earth.  If McKinnon’s information is true, and there’s no way to vet it, then we’re not in Kansas anymore.

In closing todays’ post: We know from scripture that The Fallen One will come with all signs and lying wonders.  I think we do ourselves a  great injustice when we underestimate what this might mean.  Alien Super soldiers?  Nephilim hybrids?  If McKinnon’s story is true we’re in for some interesting days in the future.

Be still and know that I Am God.  Behold the days are coming when I will show my strength on the mountains of Israel.


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119 thoughts on “UFO News: Alien Soldiers? You be the Judge…

  1. Great article. If anyone wants to research the “Archons” of the Nag Hammadi Library, John Lash’s Not in His Image is a fantastic place to start. And in a secular context Don Juan’s work on the “Mud Fliers” is great too. Here-

    John Lash’s Not in His Image-


    Nigel Kerner-


    Jay Weidner

    An article upon Carlos Castenada’s “Mud Fliers”

    ***Just a note: Most of this stuff is based either on a secular perspective, or a Gnostic Christian perspective upon the Nag Hammadi Library, and Dead Sea Scrolls. It is not necessarily coordinate with the biblical view probably held by most here, so if explored, it should be with this in mind, and in it’s own context like Jasher, Jubilees, Enoch, etc.

    Best, A43

  2. While reading the book of Joel last night, I wondered about his vision of, as Joel describes it, a great and powerful people who spread upon the mountains like blackness. What came to me regarding these verses has been confirmed this morning by LA’s post and its accompanying picture. Joel seems to be describing a non-human or super-human army. Here are some of the verses. They’re from the ESV.

    2 Like blackness there is spread upon the mountains a great and powerful people; their like has never been before, nor will be again after them through the years of all generations.
    3 Fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns.The land is like the garden of Eden before them, but behind them a desolate wilderness, and nothing escapes them.
    4 Their appearance is like the appearance of horses, and like war horses they run.
    5 As with the rumbling of chariots, they leap on the tops of the mountains, like the crackling of a flame of fire devouring the stubble, like a powerful army drawn up for battle.
    6 Before them peoples are in anguish; all faces grow pale.
    7 Like warriors they charge; like soldiers they scale the wall. They march each on his way; they do not swerve from their paths.
    8 They do not jostle one another; each marches in his path; they burst through the weapons and are not halted.
    9 They leap upon the city, they run upon the walls, they climb up into the houses, they enter through the windows like a thief.
    10 The earth quakes before them; the heavens tremble. The sun and the moon are darkened, and the stars withdraw their shining.

    Scary times for those without hope in God. Exciting for those awaiting the return of their Lord.

    • Adelfe – I have read and re-read the passage in Joel. They leap upon the city, they run upon the walls, they climb up into the houses, they enter through the windows like a thief. Sobering isn’t it?

    • I wish everyone in the whole world would just admit the Lordship of the One Who died for us. Oh God, send out workers; send us out.

    • Adelfe….

      The Joel 2:1-11 passage also seems to go right along with Isaiah 13:1-5

      ” 1The oracle concerning Babylon which Isaiah the son of Amoz saw.

      2Lift up a standard on the bare hill,
      Raise your voice to them,
      Wave the hand that they may enter the doors of the nobles.

      3I have commanded My consecrated ones,
      I have even called “My mighty warriors”, ( this is “Ghib-bore)
      My proudly exulting ones,
      To execute My anger.

      4A sound of tumult on the mountains,
      Like that of many people!
      A sound of the uproar of kingdoms,
      Of nations gathered together!
      The LORD of hosts is mustering the army for battle.

      5They are coming from a far country,
      From the farthest horizons,
      The LORD and His instruments of indignation,
      To destroy the whole land.

      I believe this speaks of the SAME ARMY of NEPHILIM.

      In addition, I wonder if the REVELATION 9:1-11 is the SAME ARMY.

      ” 1Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him. 2He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit. 3Then out of the smoke came locusts upon the earth, and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4They were told not to hurt the grass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree, but only the men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5And they were not permitted to kill anyone, but to torment for five months; and their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it stings a man. 6And in those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, and death flees from them.

      7The appearance of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle; and on their heads appeared to be crowns like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. 8They had hair like the hair of women, and their teeth were like the teeth of lions. 9They had breastplates like breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots, of many horses rushing to battle. 10They have tails like scorpions, and stings; and in their tails is their power to hurt men for five months. 11They have as king over them, the angel of the abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon.

      Something to consider. Glad The CHURCH will NOT be here then.


    • Kirk, Amen “Glad The CHURCH will NOT be here then”
      This is a nightmare of nightmares – good to watch on the lord of the rings other than that in reality no tank you berry much.

    • I think that JRR Tolkein was prophetic with his concept of creatures being formed/hatched in the depths of Mordor… we will be the generation that sees the fullfillment of his prophetic leanings…

    • These verses are describing Satan’s last, strongest, worst army of fallen angels; the fire-breathing horseman that are also described at the 6th trumpet

      Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before Elohim,

      Rev 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

      Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

      Rev 9:16 And the number of the ARMY OF THE HORSEMEN were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

      Rev 9:17 And thus I saw the HORSES in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of FIRE, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the HORSES were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued FIRE AND SMOKE AND BRIMSTONE.


      Rev 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

      Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

      Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

      This trump takes place during the Great tribulation the worst time this world will ever see

      Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

      Joe 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong;

    • LA and allGood to see that The Rev passage is brought to light in accord with the Joel2 Prophecy..

      I’ll take another spin on it if I may: and please don’t shoot the messenger.

      The majority of prophecy is expressed by imagery and symbolism, I think that most would acknowledge that. it is a matter of discerning between that which is of the natural realm and that which is of the spiritual realm and appropriate it to our understanding.

      Vs11″They have as king over them, the angel of the abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon”.

      This Apollyon is a ‘spiritual being’ leading this army.. he is also the Beast that “comes up out of the abyss that makes WAR with the Two witnesses” Rev10:7

      I shared yesterday my understanding of what the two witnesses represent..Rev11:4
      You don’t need an army to Make war on Two literal men dressed in the humility of sackcloth!

      This war of Apollyon’s is spiritual in context. I am thinking more here of demonic release from the pits of hell for the torment (possession) of the wicked, which in turn will be physically directed against the people of God. That will be Apollyon’s final point of attack.

      As I do not believe in a Pri-trib rapture, the symbolism of this war implies that the witnessing of the church shall greatly suffer as this darkness of Joel covers the earth! Here is the perseverance of the Saints in Rev13:10 which would not be called for if the rapture had already taken place.

      it is also interesting to note that the psychophysical trauma associated with demon possession is relatively the same as that of UFO abduction cases.. In my opinion, these abductions could very well take place in the battle field of the mind.. just my opinion!

      I ask that you ponder what I am sharing nothing more than that!


      john B

    • Domitrovic,

      You described the 5th trump and I described the 6th trump both of which come before the 7th trump which is when Yahshua returns. It is not until His return the 7th trump that the angels gather us up.

    • 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, BY THE COMING OF OUR MASTER YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH, and by our gathering together unto him,
      2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of the Messiah is at hand.
      2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: FOR THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT there come a falling away first, AND THAT MAN OF SIN BE REVEALED, THE SON OF PERDITION (3rd trump, grand delusion);

    • Kirk; the perseverance passage of Rev13:10 precedes the rising of the beast out of the sea Rev13:1.. the church is present at his rising.

      This beast is also the beast of Rev10:7 Apollyon! Two symbolic representation of the same figure of the same beast. there is only one Beast! in opposition to the saints in association with the False prophet! which is the Two horned beast out of the earth Rev 11:13 who instigate the image worship of the first beast..
      The word of perseverance is given after the rise of the first beast Vs10 and before the rise of the second Two horned beast vs11 So; the saints are still present and it will only be them that will not worship the image propagated by the second beast (false prophet)..

      the book of Revelations is not the containment of the last 7 years the world as is widely taught.
      The book addressed local churches in 90AD “The things that must soon come to pass” cannot mean that nothing happened for two thousand years..

      the book overlaps with imagery, symbols, figures often portraying the same events and characters from differing perspectives .

      Example Rev11:15-18 is the same scnerio as Rev20:11-15 there are many more examples……..

      Hence Apollyon is also the beast rising out of the sea!


      john b

    • An I agree that it is at the 7th Trump that we are gathered and that is the judgement of the living and the dead see Vs18 “Time came for the dead to be judged”

      john B

    • Mystic, “JRR Tolkein was prophetic” Remember the “”Two Towers”” and return of the king & don’t forgets Wormtongue, me precious.

      I think we will be seeing Bilbo Baggins around Christmas time.

    • John B…

      Just for clarification, I believe THE RAPTURE or “catching away” as mentioned
      in 1 Thess 4:13-18 is what occurs at the 6th Seal (Rev 6:12-17).
      THAT passage along with others “seals” it for me.

      (Not the seal at Sea World though. Great fun to watch, but VERY unlike above.)

      While NOT looking to go into all that, I was simply addressing “the fusion”.

      Blessings back at ya!


  3. This following emoticon doesn’t do justice to my reaction to reading today’s post: 😯

    I know how careful you are about vetting things L.A. and all that. Nothing would surprise me. That being said: How credible do you think that is say…on a scale of 1-10? 😉 Kind of hard for us to really vet that isn’t it.

    It is interesting to take in from a Biblical point of view that’s for sure. Sobering.

    “I believe it doesn’t really matter who is elected as the Military/Industrial complex along with the Federal Reserve, have been steering the “ship,” since JFK was gunned down in Dallas. Eisenhower warned us of this as he was leaving office.”

    Amen. Fly this overhead with flashing neon lights.

    • I agree. It does not matter which of the party leaders is elected; and the Military/Industrial complex is steering the “ship,” along with the Federal Reserve, since JFK, as you say, L..A. And Eisenhower did warn of this. Eisenhower was one of the last “normal” or decent presidents; my family was Democrat, but in those days we did not throw up our hands and say that “neither candidate” was to be supported. In those days it was possible to hope that either candidate would be a normal and decent. We never envisioned a time when one could vote “Neither.”

      I do not know if I will vote for President. Yesterday I heard a talk on the radio about how the other four or five leading candidates for President, who are on the ballot in some states, or can be written in in other states, have not been allowed to debate. Maybe I will vote for one of them, when I go to cast my ballot for our Senator and Representative, who still offer a viable choice.

    • @ Mariel: I understand your hesitancy over who to vote for. Both candidates have managed to create confusion and insecurity over American’s policies and whether or not they support them particularly the issue of Israel and our own eroding civil rights.

      However, although each party (both Democrats and Republicans) have also managed to cause so much uncertainty that we have to go to Jesus Christ for guidance and rightly so. We focus on the Lord in times of confusion and mayhem (and believe me there’s plenty of that going on).

      We also look at our christian leaders for guidance and example. Billy Graham, without hesitancy, is one of our most powerful leaders and we should take heed to his wisdom.

      Evangelist Billy Graham last Thursday, Oct 11, 2012, gave his official support to Mitt Romney:

      “ASHEVILLE, N.C. — Mitt Romney asked the Rev. Billy Graham for his prayers Thursday and the ailing evangelist came through by praying with the Republican presidential candidate and offering his support.”


      Maybe this helps in the decision making process. Don’t let your vote go without some effort.


    • “Mitt Romney asked the Rev. Billy Graham for his prayers Thursday and the ailing evangelist came through by praying with the Republican presidential candidate and offering his support.””

      Even though they’re praying to different gods.

      Graham is praying to the real God of the Bible.

    • Billy Graham site removes Mormon ‘cult’ reference after Romney meeting..

      Mainstreaming it now…ya baby.

    • Exactly Pudding. An all too familiar and disturbing trend that’s been going out there but the Lord warned us it would be that way on an increasing basis before his coming. Birth pangs style. 😉 So maybe before long it’ll be shofar blowing ciao ciao bambino time. 🙂

    • There is a live web-cam that shows the “Wailing Wall” 24 hours a day… You should hear the Shofars blasting live… gives me chills everytime!!!
      “Western Wall Live Webcam” or “Live Kotel Cam”
      Pretty cool y’all…

    • Eric, Let the shofar blow. I added a few more last words below.

      Arrivederci mondo crudele! (goodbye cruel world)
      Addio amore mio (bye bye my love)
      Una pizza margherita di andare per favore (a margherita pizza to go please)

    • Is it possible that sometimes we are too judgmental? I certainly was…growing up in a strict Wesleyan church. My Grandpa wouldn’t even let me iron doll clothes on Sunday.

      Sometimes I think when we get to Heaven, God will say, “Did you believe in my Son?”. God doesn’t care about religion, only that of taking care of orphans and widows. I read what the Mormon Church believes in here.


      Decide for yourself.

    • Julie…

      Thanks for posting that link. I skimmed it…and need to “fine-tooth comb it”
      sometime later today. But I do see what you are getting at.
      However, do “the Mormons” mean the SAME THING by their words?
      THAT is “the rub”.

      My thing is this.

      Methodists, Assemblies of God, Church of Christ, Catholic, Presbys, etc.
      EACH one… “more than likely”… has TRUE, Born-Again Believers in their
      respective fellowships….along with those who are NOT Born-again.

      I feel the same about “Mormons” too…at least at the lower levels of their
      Church system…BUT…at the HIGHER levels…


      Yahweh is the ONE who knows those who are HIS. That settles it. period.


    • Toatally agree… Read; “The God Makers” by Ed Decker, who was both a “Temple Mormon” and a high ranking Freemason…. Jo Smith was murdered by his own “Fraternal Brothers” for divulging the “Secret” rites of his Masonic order…

    • Julie: Sorry hun you’re wrong on this one.

      Mormons aren’t Christians. Mormonism isn’t a Christian denomination, either. It’s a cult and a large one at that.

      Nice people. Very morale. Use some similar language on some things.

      That’s not being judgemental. That’s just telling the truth.

      I’m going to overkill this a little bit because it’s important. 🙂









      And yes, check out Ed Decker. Plenty more where this came from.

    • Eric, no worries, you decide how you like. Love the free choice that God gives us. Sure there are those in every religion that are not true followers. But “believe in The Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”. Very simple words to follow. Don’t need no YouTube video to know where that comes from. 😉

    • Julie,
      The problem is that it is not just “believe in Jesus.” It is believe that Jesus is the son of God, that he is God, that he died and rose again. Mormons do not believe this. They believe in a completely different Jesus. Same name, different guy. You can use their own resources to see this.

    • Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan were brothers… the 2 sons of God…A God who happens to be from the planet Koleb… Jesus had a better plan for humankind so Satan lost out… It is perverted to it’s very core… Not a trace of forgiving grace… ONLY works lead to salvation in this anathema of a religion…

    • Julie: “Eric, no worries, you decide how you like. Love the free choice that God gives us. Sure there are those in every religion that are not true followers. But “believe in The Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”. Very simple words to follow. Don’t need no YouTube video to know where that comes from”

      Yes, but the Mormon Jesus Christ isn’t the same Jesus Christ of the Bible. That’s the problem here.

      John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

      He’s not kidding and he doesn’t mean false Christs of other religions like Mormonism.

    • Absolutely… The Mormon Jesus IS NOT Jesus from Nazareth, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontious Pilot, was crucified, dead, and buried, and on the third day He rose from the dead!!!! He has ascended into heaven, and He sits at the Right Hand of God the Father Almighty from whence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead…
      This ain’t the “Mormon” Jesus…

    • Eric W, Mystic, and Brandyys,

      Each of you is “right on”. The Mormons also don’t believe The Holy Spirit
      is the Third Person of The God-Head either. John 14, 15, 16 …each chapter does a GREAT job revealing the Holy Spirit and His role in the life of a TRUE Born-again Believer. There are MANY others, but these clarify much.

      Mormons, however, believe or at least this is what they “tried” to teach me,
      is that The Holy Spirit is like a “force”…like in Star Wars. (Sorry, wrong !!)

      I did my best to show them MANY passages that refute the “force” theory,
      But I assure you “they KNEW they spoke to somebody THAT day!
      Those 2 guys have NEVER been back since, but hopefully,
      The Spirit of God really used THAT experience with me to touch their heart.

      Scripture is also clear that “MANY” will come “IN MY NAME”. Matt 24 / Mark 13
      Since around the 1900’s…over 1,100+ public figures have “claimed” to be
      JESUS CHRIST. That is certainly alot, and like ALWAYS, The REAL JESUS
      was speaking THE TRUTH about what we would experience in these days!

      Now then, there have been some people “who have come out of The Mormon
      religion” …and are TRULY Born-again now. I know I have watched a bunch
      of videos on this one guy who actually would have a radio show ( i think )
      that was geared “specifically” to reach Mormons. VERY POWERFUL !!

      I have a short video of him below. REALLY does a great
      job exposing the lies and deceptions.

      So God can use anyone, anything to bring people to Him. Certainly,
      this guy could no longer stay in the Mormon “church” because of how
      he saw things from then on. But God uses this guy to share the TRUE
      GOSPEL and uncover alot of differences in the Mormon religion!

      Take two minutes to watch…and check out his other videos…they CAN be
      quite extreme at times. Be like a “fly on the wall” …lots to learn!


    • I hear ya Kristen, this urgency is keeping me up at nights praying for my family and our country.
      P.S. Dave Hunt wrote a “fictional” book over 20 years ago called; “The Archon Conspiracy.” The story line/plot is looking more prophetic everyday, it’s right out of the News these days.

    • Yes! It’s called the Mind Invaders now.


      As you might expect it’s all based on real life research, situations, etc. 100 percent biblical.

      Here’s its nonfiction companion of sorts. It’s as timely today as it was when he first wrote it. It’s been updated a few times. Might be one of my favorite books of all time.


    • someone posted that the reason they bought the book was they read that the fbi had contacted dave about where he got his information. scary huh guess the government doesnt read the bible. No surprises there.

  4. (2 Chr 7;14)
    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    (Ez 22:30)
    30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.
    31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord God.

    Yes, America is full of sin, and deserves God’s wrath, but it is never God’s will that we just give up especially when He has made clear promises to us in scripture. It’s hard to keep faith when it seems as if everyone around you has given up and has glorified the devil in turning their country over to him. How weak our God seems according to these. You can show them scriptures, but they will show you current events to ‘prove’ that these scriptures are irrelevant. Its not about scripture anymore, but about conspiracy theories that have crept into the church and has become a new doctrine all its own. Move over scripture, you must now give way to conspiricy theory and fit yourself in around it.
    Jesus said when you see all these things happening, then lift up your heads… He didn’t say stop living and check out of society, go in your room and ignore your earthly duties. But thats whats happening, and they’re proud of it! Don’t get involved, stay in your closet.
    Narrow minded, legalistic Christians find fault with every other ministry today except their own pet ministries. They are ‘sure’ all the other ones are of the devil. Church, how can we possibly stand? We are being so easily influenced by demonic slander. We wilfully slander our brothers and sisters in the most disgraceful way, and think nothing of it. Very few will stick their necks out to defend their brother’s ministry anymore
    Let it be destroyed, who cares. Faith in God is also discouraged. The unbelief in the church is unreal and if thats not enough, we have to go spread our own unbelief around to others, who might still believe God is real and is still working supernaturally in lives today, and that He still performs miracles, and that the gifts of the Spirit are as real in our generation as they were 2,000 years ago. People who still hold on to the belief that God will answer their prayers are dropping like flies. Don’t bother about America, they say, God can’t/won’t hear your prayers, shes doomed. Pray for your own family and let the rest of America go to Hell. They deserve it after all. Tell me, where is the love of God in that attitude? Our generation is a spiritual mess. We can’t even come together to pray for this country without the otherside coming along discouraging us, saying why bother? Why waste your time. There was a time when we could all come together for things like this. Maybe whats wrong with America isn’t really “them”, maybe its really us. Maybe its really us and our unbelief, that are at the root of America’s problem.

    • I am so sorry that this has been your experience. I have seen a few Christians here and there throughout my entire life that fit in with this definition, but in my life it has certainly been the exception and not the rule. I currently live in Los Angeles, which many would argue is about as bad as it gets in America. Even here, I am surrounded by Christians who truly love the Lord, that follow after him with all their heart, and have an unwavering faith. I believe that this exists all around the world. I think that sometimes the ones that seem the loudest are the ones on the other side from us, and maybe that is the problem. You yourself reminded us of Elijah and the power of his prayer for no rain to fall. I believe that it had far less to do with his power or righteousness and much more to do with the fact that he was praying in God’s will. I firmly believe that there are thousands of believers just like you who are praying day and night for God’s will to be done in America and throughout the world. Please do not be discouraged. I know there are many of us humbling ourselves, seeking His face, praying, turning from out wicked ways, and asking for His will to be done.

    • Something I wanted to add to what Kirk said yesterday is that if you are doing Anything at all for the Lord, and its doing damage to Satan’s Kingdom, he will make sure that Everybody out there, will slander your ministry. Woe to you when everybody speaks well of you, and when your name comes up on the Internet and their aren’t at least a dozen people saying how evil you are, and that you are deceiving the people. In verse 12, they said the same thing about Jesus Christ. They even accused Him of deceiving the people, is it any surprise that the accuser of the brethren is following his children around and saying the same thing? Don’t agree with and be part of that mess. When we are obeying the Lord, that slander is SUPPOSED to happen! If it wasn’t, then it would never have happened to Jesus, who was perfect and did everything right, yet they Still slandered Him. Jesus said that its impossible for offenses to be prevented, but He said woe to that person by which they come. Lets not allow ourselves to be used for evil, but lets use our speech to build each other up in love.

      (John 7:12)
      10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.
      11 Then the Jews sought him at the feast, and said, Where is he?
      12 And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.

    • “Something I wanted to add to what Kirk said yesterday is that if you are doing Anything at all for the Lord, and its doing damage to Satan’s Kingdom, he will make sure that Everybody out there, will slander your ministry.”


      That conversation went off the rails pretty fast but my only two cents I’d add to the whole thing is this:

      Sometimes there are some legit doctrinal issues that have to be looked at and addressed as well and in a loving and gracious fashion with an open Bible. Up or down. It’s called being a Berean and having discernment. People can and SHOULD do this the right way and vet without getting into slander and gossip.

  5. **Thinking out loud here**
    That news link about the Temple Mount animal sacrifice re-institution brought me “visions” of PETA and other animal rights groups protesting and storming that zone and other areas officially connected. Ah well… there’s one more outrage in these increasingly chaotic days. Not to mention Followers Of the Way/Christians staring down in wide-eyed disbelief. Even some Christians-In-Name-Only (call ’em CINO’s) might be persuaded to riot. The believers and CINO’s will of course be unsettled due to reasons other than animal rights.

    • I have heard that because the alter is already built, they could begin saccrifices any time, without having the temple already constructed. Have you heard this?

    • Brandyys, that seems to be what the rabbi in the article is talking about:

      Rabbi Yisrael Ariel, the leader of the Temple Institute in Jerusalem, has called for the restoration of animal sacrifices on the Temple Mount even though the temple has not been rebuilt.

      It has also been said that Temple worship could be held inside a tent, as in the time of the Exodus (and, I think, until Solomon’s Temple was built, though I’m not positive about that).

    • I believe that the AC has to be standing in the Holy of Holies to make his “Abomination of Desolation” proclamation… without the Ark how will they construct the 3rd inner sanctum? I’ve seen a video which shows that ALL the utensils are already made to go, but those are all in the 2nd court of the temple… What would they sprinkle the blood on? Is there a “New” Mercy Seat?

    • It has been said — by Jimmy De Young, IIRC — that the Israelis found the Ark of the Covenant in a passage under the Temple Mount. Maybe 20 years ago? They left it there rather than move it to a place that might not be so safe.

    • Yes I’ve watched a video that claims that the Ark is actually buried unger Golgotha and that Jesus own blood seeped thruogh the rock and landed on the Mercy Seat… Maybe they do have it…

    • Mystic, that’s Ron Wyatt’s story.

      Thinking about it, I’m sure there was a Jimmy DeYoung audio (or perhaps video) on his site, perhaps last spring? I think a friend told me about it; I don’t usually visit his site.

      From RR:

      Jimmy DeYoung also believes that the Ark of the Covenant must be found in order for the Jewish people to build the Temple. “I believe it is underneath the Temple Mount,” said DeYoung while being interviewed by John Ankerberg. “I have talked to two men, two very prestigious rabbis, who said they came within inches of bringing the Ark of the Covenant out. One man said he took a mirror, looked around a wall and saw the Ark of the Covenant.”

    • To add to JLL’s post the website for Jimmy is: http://prophecytoday.com
      On the front page there is a Prophecy radio stream to listen to and if you click on the left menu bar (PTRN) you can download “Prophecy today weekly” which is a culmination of the other options divided around it.

    • Dagnabbit post went into the pit of moderation. Lets try it with quotes..

      “To add to JLL’s post the website for Jimmy is: “http://prophecytoday.com”
      On the front page there is a Prophecy radio stream to listen to and if you click on the left menu bar (PTRN) you can download “Prophecy today weekly” which is a culmination of the other options divided around it.”

    • I’ve been googling all morning, and now I’m more confused than before. It seems like there are a wide range of ideas in the Christian, Jewish and secular spheres.

      Do most Jews believe that the Messiah will rebuild the temple and for that reason they will wait to build the temple, but begin sacrifices on an altar?

    • David Flynn speculates in “The Temple at The center of Time” that Mt. Nebo
      could be where the ARK is and his reasons seem very plausible.

      I believe he also mentioned “under the Temple Mount” as a possible option too.

      But I “think” David was “leaning” towards Mt. Nebo.

      Certainly everything is READY…just waiting for the word “GO!”

      ALL I KNOW FOR SURE IS……….”I don’t have it.”

      Kirk 😉

      BTW….The Temple will go up FAST. The plans are set.

  6. I almost gagged when Obama said that politics played no part in the Libyan mess,(yeah,right,Hillary wasn’t asked to fall on the sword,just hours before the debate,never mind weeks of sticking by the movie protest notion) and that it was offensive to think otherwise. Obama thinks he deserves 4 more years (I assume that’s what he figures it will take to completely destroy nation)
    And isnt it Isn’t it amazing that Candy Crowley had researched the issue of what Obama said in the Rose Garden to the point that she could recall what Obama said in the Rose Garden and then proceeded to help him by misquoting what he actually said. Nothing like an unbiased Press Corps and allowing them to assist their man during a debate. The truth is the media had Obama winning this debate 5 days ago, there was nothing Romney could have done, the media called this one days ago…. What a country. By the way, when Crowley asked Romney how he is different than Bush, why did she not ask Obama why he is different than Carter?

    • Matt, I agree, the outcome was decided by the media as barry was an empty chair in the first debate. He has been given more time than Romney in both debates as was jb is his turn against Ryan.. Its contrived and in the end we may just wind up with another term of barry and his cazrs. We need to vote our conscience and give the man who at the very least stands up for the unborn. It was reported this am that there is a call for Romney to be assassinated if elected and for nationwide rioting as they believe that if he loses the election, its because it was stolen. barry has fomented a great divide amongst the American people as he has much contempt for us and will do all he can to destroy us as his handle wishes.

    • It used to be that you suspected the media of being biased, but now you know for certain they actually are, what a shame for all who wish to know the real news. The reporters are no more than high paid movie stars being fed lines from script writers.

    • Amen to that J.M. and Pudding.

      I have to go out of the country to get real news. Christian ministries like L.A.’s and a few other odds and ends and that’s about it.

    • Ya check out the end of assassins creed 2 after u beat up the pope u meet an alien that tells u they created mankind on earth and were worshiped as gods,

    • It’s true Mystic. I try to be very careful about the games I play when I have time.

      They’ve been ahead of the curve on transhumanism and a bunch of other things for years.


      ^^ Fantastic game series but look at the concepts. It was the year 2000 when the first game came out and it was ultra transhumanism to the max.

      Also rank occultism especially with some of the RPGs and such:


      Look at the imagery of the box art right off the bat. There’s even more blatantly occultic games than that.

      2×4’s to the back of the head are more subtle.

      I avoid those kinds of games.

    • While the video game subject is particular in this thread, I’d like to ask: what is your criteria on defining an occult oriented game? Sounds like a silly question but there’s a reason i’m asking.

    • Interesting thing, I played World of Warcraft for two years. I found God even in the design and beautiful graphics of the game at first. But alas I became addicted and forced myself to quit a few years ago. I learned that any game…any THING that takes your mind off God is wrong. Occult or not. I burned all my guidebooks and promised God never again. Be careful of how much time your hobbies consume.

    • Agreed Julie. I’m glad I never liked MMOs. It’s amazing how carried away some people get with those. Balance and moderation with anything. Hobbies can become idols very easily.

    • Debra: “While the video game subject is particular in this thread, I’d like to ask: what is your criteria on defining an occult oriented game? Sounds like a silly question but there’s a reason i’m asking.”

      Some of them are pretty blatant like a lot of those dark D&D based RPGs. You have pentagrams all over the place. Devils. Real incantations. A first person shooter like the Doom games were also blatantly occultic with the same kind of stuff on it.

    • I was involved in the first wave of D&D. We used small paper booklets. And the first wave of video games on TRS-80, Apple II, and Atari.

      Those were addicting enough, but I was completely delivered from video games. Never had an attraction to social video games, possibly due to being mildly autistic.

      With tablets, I did however play simulation games too much, which are like puzzles.

      Recently, within the past week, I tried a physics simulator called “powder toy.”

      I literally lost spent 4 hours playing the game the first time I used it. The alarming thing was that I lost two hours. It was well after midnight when I quit. I thought I’d only been at it a couple of hours.

      It’s definitely hypnotic. Besides pouring materials like sand and powders, gravity, burning, winds, explosives, antimatter, neutrons, lifeforms, etc. etc. can be controlled to simulate many dazzling patterns and events.

      Not sure about anyone else — but the point is that it seemed like a blackout to me.

      So I suspect there’s more to it than just a game.

      I think there’s much to be said for, “sin will take you further than you want to go; cost you more than you want to pay; and keep you longer than you want to stay.”

  7. LA,you asked for scripture on the subject of Israel. There is no shortage of scriptural references I could give,but it comes down to interpretation. We might use the same scripture and still see them completely opposite.

    This one does stick out though..

    “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.”

    as well as…

    “It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.”

    I came to Christ through the New Testament,which says Jesus Christ is the way to God,and those in Christ are His people now.

    Who is able to think that the people living in the land of Israel today are all saved in Christ through no repentance and being born again?

    Either there is one true gospel or there is not. Either we are Christians,saved by grace,or we believe in a gospel “saved by race”.

    I spent many hours pouring over this subject,because of this undying devotion I see toward Israel. I say it is because of deceptive teachings. There is overwhelming reason to believe the conspiracy behind this,when one reads about Scofield,the “secret six”,and who benefitted from that line of thought down through the years.

    Anyone sincerely wanting to see where I’m coming from need only begin with a search for “Lies of Dispensationalism”.
    I would be happy to list quotations and references but I don’t have the time right now.

    Also,people complaining about the “military industrial complex” and yet who want to support Israel in all ways,financially,militarily,etc,…are hypocritical,in my opinion. We are “blessing Israel” with all of that and more!
    Almost everyone who looks at politics knows that dual-citizen,Zionist Jews control our government and what they do through their lobbies is carry out what is good for Israel.

    How the Jewish Lobby Works

    A search on “Israel is the military industrial complex” reveals quite a lot,too.

    It is my sincere desire as a Christian to see light shone on these issues. I’m sorry it has to be met with such opposition.

    I won’t be back til this evening to reply any further.

    • Breezy-If I can add some thoughts until LA answers. Like you said, there are MANY scriptures that speak about Jews/Israel, and I think if you just look at one group of scriptures over the other, it can cause some confusion. As with many other subjects in the Bible, one needs to look at ALL the scriptures to get a full understanding.

      You reference these two passages:

      “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.”

      as well as…

      “It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.”

      If you only look at these scriptures, I admit, it CAN appear to be indicating that being a natural-born Jew is not important. But, if you look to what Paul said in Romans 11, where Paul is discussing the “grafting in” of Christians, he says,

      11 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, 3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”?[a] 4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

      This clearly says that God has NOT cast away his people (the Jews of Israel). What he cast away, were the Israelites who began worshiping the false gods of Baal. Paul then goes on to explain the grafting in of Christians: in verses 11-36 (of Romans chapter 11).

      God had a purpose for the Jews rejecting Jesus, and that was to allow for the Gentiles to be offered redemption through the death of Jesus. But once this has been completed, God will remove the “blindness” and the Jewish people will recognize Jesus as their Messiah.

      The best analogy I can give, is I had two sons from my first marriage. I have remarried and now have a step-son. I have accepted him into my family and consider him my third son. I did not forget my first two sons, nor do I treat my “new” son any different…they are ALL now my sons. God has brought the Gentiles who have accepted Jesus into the “family tree”. I hope this helps…sorry it is so lengthy! 🙂

    • Phoebe & Breezy: 2 Samule 7: 23 -24 And what one nation in the earth [is] like thy people, [even] like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people, which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, [from] the nations and their gods? For thou hast confirmed to thyself thy people Israel [to be] a people unto thee for ever: and thou, LORD, art become their God.

      This is about plain as you can get and there’s no way around it….

    • As an added follow up: It is my opinion, when the scripture you referenced says, “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.”, this is meant more for the Gentiles who have been grafted in, meaning that just because they were not BORN a Jew, does not mean they have not been accepted by God…they were brought into the family by the Blood of Christ. 😉

  8. UFO Cult documentary – reveals how some ufo contactees are inspired to create deceptive ufo religions and dangerous cults.

  9. “http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/terrorist_wannbe_attempts_to_blow_nLpU0NvebBebzQhjPNv8CM?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost”
    Terrorist attempts to blow up Federal Reserve Bank

    Imagine if this had succeeded.

    • The FBI recruited him. Go FBI. Wow they used the word Terrorist to, you just have to love election time.
      I wants me an Obbame phone.

    • It’s the prayers of God’s people that stopped that! Its the mercy of God and God’s favor on America in responce to prayer. Imagine what our country would look like if we kept up all of this prayer past the election? We could transform this country, through faith and prayer. Its never too late. Love always hopes.

    • I think there are many things like this, where Satan’s plans have been thwarted because of the prayers of God’s people. This is the only one that made the news, but I bet there are others that only the angels of God and God’s intercessors know about. Prayer is such a powerful weapon, that God has given the Church.

  10. “http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/”

    UFO War: Chinese and US Navy off San Francisco

    Alien Secrets & the Military

    First hour guest, editor of Veterans Today, Gordon Duff, talked about a report of a combined fleet operation between the U.S. and China against an alleged unfriendly ET threat. According to Duff, aliens in underwater bases planned to call their motherships in and seize the entire Pacific basin, not unlike what was depicted in the movie Independence Day. Further, Duff said that the Majestic 12 documents were real, and various treaties were established with alien visitors. He also spoke about how the US has spent trillions of dollars developing advanced weaponry and technology, unknown to the public– one of his sources claimed America had built an interstellar craft as far back as 1952.

  11. According to Dr. David Jacob’s author of the book, “The Threat” there is a secret alien agenda to hybridize the human race and create an army of hybrids that will further some alien agenda of colonization. Christian researchers see the parallels with
    the warning of the days of Noah when fallen angels will genetically alter humans to create an army of nephillim. Many abductees are subject to mind control and are told they have a future mission to direct people….some contactees and ufo cult leaders are also
    told they have a future mission to direct people to certain locations to be rescued or taken. Jesus gave the following warning: He said “one shall be taken one will be left”. Some Christians believe Christ is referring to the rapture. If you read the context Jesus
    is saying “go not after them nor follow them” for the ones that are taken or go or are going to a place where eagles are gathered together. Eagles are birds of prey and may be the same kind of ravenous birds referred to in Ezek, 39:4. In other words they are going not to be rescued or raptured but are going to to their destruction. This is also illustrated in the parable of the tares and the wheat.


    [21] Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
    [22] And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
    [23] And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
    [24] For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
    [25] But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
    [26] And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
    [27] They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
    [28] Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
    [29] But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
    [30] Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
    [31] In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
    [32] Remember Lot’s wife.
    [33] Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
    [34] I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
    [35] Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    [36] Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    [37] And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.


    1. [4] Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.


    1. [25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
    2. [26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
    3. [27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
    4. [29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
    5. [30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
    6. [36] Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
    7. [38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
    8. [40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

  12. All of Iran’s advanced enrichment centrifuges now removed to Fordo — DebkaFile article (excerpt)…..

    “Debkafile’s military and intelligence sources report that the Iranians are preparing to change the “active formation” of the Fordo centrifuges and adapt them for refining uranium up to the 60 percent level, a short step before the weapons grade of 90 percent. The conversion is expected to be ready to go in the second half of DECEMBER or early January, 2013.

    US and Israeli intelligence experts on Iran recently arrived at a consensual assessment that Fordo was the only site capable of producing uranium enriched to the high 90 percent level.
    Iran has therefore leapt across another red line in its steady advance toward a nuclear capability and is about to across its next.”


    • Good news thread. 🙂

      Hizbollah ‘launching rocket attacks into Syria’

      Iran trumpets new naval warfare capabilities

      Is Amos 1 prophetic? If so it would seem to lend credence to the idea that Syria would attack Israel first.

      Ten years ago I remember running across some article…I forgot who wrote it…they took the position that Syria would fight 4 wars with Israel. So far they’ve fought 3.

      The fourth one would be the big one where Isaiah 17 happens with the destruction of Damscus.

      I haven’t heard much about this passage but it’s interesting to think about.

    • Definitely so, Eric. Much is unfolding so quickly, to the point of no return to “normal” (that is, the “normal” of pre-nuclear times).

  13. Russ Dizdar points to the “black awakening.”
    (considering prophecy and the testimony of those delivered from possession)

    Gordy’s point ala David Jacob, is about “mass abduction” on the scale of billions.
    (considering prophecy and the testimony of abductees similarly freed)

    LA points to physical evidences and the reformation of Israel in end-time events.
    (such as the Shroud of Turin, embedded microchips, nephilim bones, disasters, crop circles, BEKs, etc.)

    Chris Pinto points to history and prophecy regarding romanism and catholicism as central to the end-times.
    (Tom Horn is similar. Of course there’s plenty of testimony from ex-catholics.)

    Patrick Heron and Rob Skiba are focused on the return of the ancient gods as nephilim or fallen…
    Mike Tater correlated freedom from sleep paralysis with deliverance in Jesus’ name.
    Others point to NWO, bloodlines, etc. etc. etc.

    To me, Faithfulelect, and similar…

    The hidden actors (the fallen and demons) have already been exposed in prophecy. They’re behind the ongoing conflicts. We’re engaged in heavy warfare with them with a focus on rescue, escape and evasion. The end time events unfolding before our eyes are hidden from the masses who are blind to the spiritual nuclear war that’s raging — even though 100’s of millions are destroyed and billions captured.

    Whoever’s not saved and delivered is already possessed. And the saved are oppressed. The possessed are victims (often willing, yes). Our battle is not with them but the rebel angels and their offspring. Christ has enabled us to stand against them through His authority, the Armor of God, (including prayer and scripture as parts). Richard Grund points to locking our shields together through the ministries of Christ extended into the world through His church. There’s a greater level of ability and protection when we’re in unity with Christ. Which is why there’s so many attempts to keep us from focusing on Him.

    As collectives headed by the rebel angels and their offspring, the end-time monsters have already been exposed in the Revelation. In plain terms, many are given spiritual gifts for “the good (well being) of all” — but those that aren’t saved are already spiritually hybridized by the enemy. They corrupt their spiritual gifts. They’re already “spiritual nephilim” — the offspring the rebel angels and their demon children. I believe it’s more like an infection or infestation for the purpose of breeding more of their kind — spiritual abominations. That’s how they multiple themselves.

    So those spiritually gifted — but cut off from Christ — and joined instead to the rebels angels and their spawn…
    1. as rescuers, saviors, or heroes, become false messiahs, collectively spiritual antichrists. (false evangels)
    2. … false prophets (false preachers)
    3. … false pastors (false counselors and false coaches)
    4. … false teachers (false masters)
    5. … false apostles (false priests, false prayer warriors)
    6. … false deacons (false servants)
    7. … false elders (false witnesses)

    Collectively they make up the end-time abominations: 1. antichrist, 2. false prophet, 3. “death & hell,” 4. mystery babylon, 5. abaddon (the destroyer), 6. the kings and merchants (false public servants), 7. the dragon

    Computer and communications tech make it easier for them (along with the apostates) to join as collectives, giving rise to the “end time giants” that have already invaded the world spiritually. (Compare with the giants in the promised land for Israelites on the Exodus.)

    We see the impact when trolls invade the blog, likewise in the mob actions of the arab spring / muslim brotherhood, and the frenzies of political factions. The rise of mass lawlessness is the same: massive abortion, massive incursions of illegals, massive substance addiction… etc.

    It’s the same for mass entertainment (especially like rock concerts, pop idols, and ball games); for massive observance of secular and occult holidays; mass consumption/waste/covetousness; and for the massive delusions of pseudo-science. Likewise for the constant deluge of videos which focus on the paranormal, transhumans, idols, vengeance, sex, greed, faithlessness, lying, murder, theft, cons, etc…..

    So many of you seem to be waiting till the end-time supernatural actors are physically manifest. That’s not how the hidden do things. They use invisibility and deniability as camouflage. But you can easily see the results, destruction, and devastation.

    The world is burning down already — you can’t stop it from starting. You’re already living in a wasteland and reaping the curses of masses joined to the rebel angels. Not only masses but majorities that are in control.

    There’s only one place to evacuate too and it’s not of this world. That’s why Christ preached and taught the Kingdom of Heaven. That’s why His mission is saving the lost. That’s good news. That’s what the Cross is about. We can escape. This is not our home — for those born again spiritually. The older one gets the more you know that the flesh is temporary, a tabernacle. Which should be controlled by our spiritual bodies and not the other way around. Part of why we fast. Part of why worship takes us into the heavenlies as we seek Christ face and His heart. That of Jesus of Nazareth, the only truly begotten Son of God, Yeshua/Yahshua who is Messiah, who as the Lamb of God took the keys of hell and death, resurrected, and ascended, so that we are no longer slaves to sin and the rebel angels.

    You’re waiting for a physical temple to be built in Jerusalem. But the Temple of God is not of this world. The Tabernacle of David has been restored already. It’s delusion and theater for the antichrist to defile a physical structure, for the masses….

    Sorry to cut this short, but it’s prayer time.

    • You’re waiting for a physical temple to be built in Jerusalem. But the Temple of God is not of this world. The Tabernacle of David has been restored already.


      john B

    • Dear Nom,
      What do you think of these verses John 18:36 my kingdom is not OF this world” Luke 17:21 the kingdom of YAHWEY is WITHIN you” Mtt 26:53 Think you that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?” Daniel 6:26 I make a decree, That in every dominion of my kingdom men tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: for he is the living God, and stedfast for ever, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed, and his dominion shall be even unto the end.” Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly places.”
      And finally Ephesians 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.”

      The word ‘world’ is translated cosmos to include all of HIS creation. Surely FATHER didn’t create a world (earth) simply to be destroyed and us taken away from it. Presently there seems to be three distinct kingdoms (YAHWEYS heavenly kingdom, the kingdom of the air and mans kingdom-earth) and YAHWEY is soveriegn over all of them, though satan for a time has ‘dominion’ over this one. But if we recall in Job, satan has to ask permission to do anything to any of us and in other parts of Scripture, YAHWEY will in fact use satan and or his minions to do HIS bidding. See 1Kings 22:20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.’

      I agree with you on some points. I like a few others am not pre-trib rapture. I believe the temple is just as Christ said it was-it is our body. I believe HIS kingdom is within us and is evident with victories and wars (things we overcome and things we still fight). I believe HIS kingdom is in the midst of us all, working, being and yet unseen b/c we are too weak to see it and/or b/c we are not supposed to see some things at this present time. There is a constant desire to establish some kind of government (from Adam and Eves time till now), but YAHWEY says that the government shall be upon HIS shoulders and surely it is. In as much as a believer surrenders (I mean REALLY surrender) his/her life to YAHSHUA, one will experience this government and no matter what earthly judges deam (even if influenced by evil), only HIS will shall prevail. Daniel was IN Babylon, but he was not OF Babylon. Sure he worked with in the system, yet when it came to YAHWEYS will, it was always done.

      Rev 21:5 And he that sat on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said to me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.” We dont see the whole picture, but HE has told us HE is making everything new. And soon the earth will too be born again and become a ‘new’ thing. I believe the ‘idea’ of the earth will remain, just as we remain ‘who we are-our personality/uniqness. Scientifically/mathematically we may not be able to really understand what this ‘I’ve prepared a place for you’ means. Maybe it is “I’ve prepared a place for you in my new inproved kingdom”. Because HE tells us to pray, Thy will be done on EARTH as it IS in heaven.

      So exciting to see all HIS glory played out and to know that one can be a part of that by HIS grace alone. What a joy, what a pleasure.


    • Amen and amen John B. I have serious doubts that a third temple will ever be built/accomplished (and yes I’ve read the Temple Institutes website). It would seem that the physical state of Israel, serves as a kind of ‘visual’. In the physical we have wars and rumors of wars (in our own lives). The old covenant (the temple, the way of doing things) was destroyed/fullfilled. While our physical temple dies and becomes obsolete, our heart (our spirit born again of the Holy Spirit) grows. The ‘old is passing and the new is being renewed day by day.”
      Perhaps the deception is in believing what you want to believe and what makes you most comfortable. But if one is truly saved than he/she was saved b/c the gospel truth was presented and b/c FATHER let your spirit see in the mirror what it really was! You became offended by the truth. So you repented. But there is more truth to be discovered and more repenting the church needs to do. Jacob was renamed Israel b/c he struggled/wrestled with YAH. We struggle to, to over come.

    • So then folks Now we can understand that all of this lost ark and found ark and earthly tabernacle and the animal sacrifices is a lot of smoke blowing over the word by the Principalities of this present darkness masquerading as angels of light..

      You see folks It was not the Glorious Temple of Solomon built on Mt Moriah which was of significance in the sight of God.. But a Humble Tent pitched on mount Zion “The tabernacle of David”, and indeed it is restored in the Spirit realm in the heavenly Mt Zion fulfilling the Prophecy of Amos9:11 and furthermore; This great truth was given ratification By Apostle James at the Jerusalem council with Solomon’s Temple and its on going services in full view of the Apostolic body and church gathered at the council Acts15:15-18.


      john B

    • And furthermore; This restored Tabernacle does not shut out Gentile worshippers, No! it gives to them full entrance Acts15:12 such was Apostle Paul’s report to the council…

      Jesus is indeed the only legitimate heir of the promise made Abraham.. He is the seed of the promise. It is his church and He the sole Builder!Mat16:18. Such is the vastness and the depth of the Love of God that it encompasses Jew and gentile to worship in Spirit and Truth in the Jerusalem above. Heb12:22,23.


      john B

    • Amen! To both Deirdre and John B.

      It’s simple to reconcile our differences.

      There are many points here, let me focus on those with common interest.

      The Ezekiel temple will likely be built and used during the millennial reign of Christ. The small rooms need not be used for animal sacrifice. They can easily be used for the sacrifice of praise. Perhaps as places of translation for broadcast into the entire earth. Though there be a common language as in Zephaniah, our birth language moves us more. So I find no problem with their being a physical place of assembly. Probably not physically on the current temple mount location, which will be leveled when Christ splits the Mount of Olives to open the eastern gate and begin the channel which brings water, likely spring water out of the city into both the dead sea and on to the coast. Ultimately of course not one stone will be left standing from Herod’s temple.

      The Ezekiel temple can easily be built in the City of David south of the current temple mount area, just as the tabernacle of David was originally erected there. So there’s no harm to the realization that the physical temple is an extension of the true temple which are those that compose the church.

      King Jesus (oh, how I love to say that), Melek Yahshua, likewise. (Strong’s 4428) King Jesus has not disdained the flesh and the natural, but they must be in submission to the greater glory of His Spirit, just as we see Him manifest as the Lamb Slain, with 7 Horns and & 7 Eyes, which are the 7 Spirits of Yah.

      It’s a wonder to me that He again resurrected His natural body and took it to Heaven — glorified. So likewise we are made in His image, with both a natural body and a spiritual body, as Apostle Paul revealed. “To the only wise God, our Savior — Be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen!” (from Jude) So in like manner, the barrier between the dimensions which separate the physical and the spiritual will be removed in the millennial reign which in spirit and in truth (transcendence including the physical) it can be said that He reigns over all. But only for a time, because that greater manifestation is coming, New Jerusalem, wherein there is no need for a temple, because He is the Temple there. The very mystery of Christ / Messiah is that the physical is anointed with the fulness of the Holy Spirit.

      So it takes both. There is no condemnation of the natural and perfect creation, as it was after the creation. But it remains that this world must be cleansed from the rebellion. And it will be cleansed by the blood of the wicked, the ashes of their bones, and the fire that burns up the elements with fervent heat. After satan is released from a thousand year imprisonment and goes again to deceive the nations — then the final rebellion — against the millennial reign will be exposed. So comes the Day of the Lord, and the Great White Throne judgment. While we all are caught up from out of earth and from the far reaches of Heaven for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb — who make up the Bride, becoming the Lamb’s Wife collectively in Spirit and physically in the City, New Jerusalem, our eternal home.

      The Almighty has not disdained the physical creation. He could have started over at the Cross. He chose instead to redeem it through love and overcoming, which is so much more Holy and Awesome and Worthy of Yah.

      So yes, we have been given both citizenship and the direct connection heart to heart in the spirit, which is not of this world yet till Christ returns. Collectively, we are that great net cast into the world and the treasure hid in the field, as Yeshua taught in parables. We are the First Fruits of the millennial kingdom. New Jerusalem is descending spiritually first, as an extension of the Greater Assembly of Saints. This is the Heavenly Mother laboring to bring forth the manchild in Rev. 11. An rightly should be since New Jerusalem is composed of the saved throughout all generations, who are we Christ our spiritual parents.

      I can go on. Suffice it for now to note that both in Spirit and in Truth, our God reigns. His Kingdom come and His will be done on earth as in Heaven. The Tabernacle of David shows where the wall of division no longer exists. And the Holy of Holies is extended into the natural. We can say as a gate. And that wall of separation was rent at the Cross, which Christ has not disdained to turn from a curse into a blessing and redeem it. And I believe like Aaron’s Rod that it also bears fruit again, though once dead and the instrument of death.

      Time is short this morning.

      In all ways, Yahshua be praised, as the True Son and physical extension of Yah — into this world and into the natural Creation. All creation anticipates His return. Soon coming!

    • A few typos from getting in a hurry…

      Here’s the correction:
      “An[d] rightly should be since New Jerusalem is composed of the saved throughout all generations, who are [with] Christ[,] our spiritual parents. ”

      We’ll have to discuss some other day how the Almighty has used the rebel angels as “the alternative choice” to discover those that reject Him. Something like fly paper or roach motels. Those that reject Christ instead embrace the rebellion. They provide choice. Choose this day whom you’ll serve.

  14. As soon as I saw those soldiers, I imagined thats what Goliath resembled to David! Insurmountable, unbeatable, even the Israeli army was terrified! But Jehovah Jirah was with the little shepard boy and the first rocktoppled him like rhe WTC. Are we any less our more than a little shepard boy?
    Pudding-are you a stand up comedian? Cuz you make me laugh daily so hard. I cannot drink anything when I read the blogdue to laughing so hard I expellafore mentioned liquid out of an orafice, generally nasal.

    • WHat a wonderful analogy Ally! So true. By the worlds standards (or government-no little kid is going to beat some huge guy up) or our own fears/disbelief, this should not have happened. But David was operating on a whole different level. He didn’t go by the ‘who says this or that’, he went by what does YAHWEY say! Amen!

  15. EVERYONE….

    This is a WORTHWHILE video to help you see more specific differences of Mormons
    from TRUE BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY. This guy became Born-again ….
    and came out from the Mormon religion. Now he is used by God
    to reach the Mormon community.


    • Kirk, I think he is right, but we know JFK was Catholic and he worked for the country, we would have to see on Mitt. I suppose for most Mitt is over Obama as he is for Israel

  16. I came across this link and wanted to share. Hamas terrorist Ahlam Tamimi was dealt 16 life sentences in Israeli prison before she was released in the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange deal in October 2011. Tamimi masterminded the Sbarro Restaurant suicide bombing on August 9, 2011 which killed 16 Israelis and wounded 130. Today, Tamimi runs a talk show out of Jordan that airs on Al-Aqsa TV. The clip is from an interview with her on Al-Aqsa TV. Why do they not show this stuff on MSM?? People should see this kind of evil that Israel is up against on a daily basis! She is literally ecstatic over the lives she helped in killing! Only true evil can be joyful while talking about causing the death of other human beings!


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