Troublesome Times…

Commentary & Analysis


L. A. Marzulli

I was on Dr, Stan Monteith’s radio show last night from 11pm to midnight.  We had a great discussion about world affairs, focusing of course on the Middle East.  When we take a step back and look at what is happening in the world today, it can be overwhelming as the world seems to be rushing toward a global conflict, namely WWIII.  I had dinner two nights ago with some folks that drove two hours to meet me.  We too discussed the Middle East, prophecy and the complexity of the issues facing us.

At the end of the evening we expressed our fears that it wasn’t safe to live in America any more.  I travel around the USA and I keep hearing this more and more from the folks I meet with.  This sense of unrest is, in my opinion, because people have an understanding of Biblical prophecy and in their estimation we are living in the end of days.  They have a distrust for Big Government and are alarmed by the intrusion of TSA, Drones, pat downs, the right of our government to arrest someone without probable cause and hold them indefinitely, to name a few alarming trends.  They see the introduction of genetically altered foods, the spraying of chem-trials, the high price of gas, high unemployment figures, the rise of the nanny state, 11 years of endless war in Afghanistan, corruption everywhere, lawlessness in our youth, and the abandonment of God by the Democratic party.

In closing todays’ post:  The world is in the midst of what I would consider, troublesome times. When we look at the endless vitriol in the Middle East, the collapse of Greece and Spain, the friction between China and Japan, the 30,000 deaths in the Syrian civil war, the ongoing fish and animal die offs, the thousands killed in Mexican drug wars, the ongoing earthquakes, volcanic activity, bizarre weather patterns, solar CME’s, can we really say these are not troublesome times?  We were warned by Jesus, we would see this type of world before his second coming.  I think we’re here and His coming may be closer than any of us imagine

Be still and know that I Am God.  Behold, the days are coming when I will show my strength on the mountains of Israel. 

I’m headed out to meet Fritz Zimmerman who will give me a private tour of the mounds in and around Newark. this should take most of the day and then the conference will start tonight.

112 thoughts on “Troublesome Times…

    • Quote from my small group last night: “I have no idea what’s going on in the world.”
      Reply: “Just walk with Jesus.”

      This is what surrounds me at two of the three churches I am involved in. The people at Calvary Chapel, however, are awake. God have mercy on us.

      A note of hope. In Isaiah, God says that when the deep darkness covers the people, the glory of the Lord will arise upon us, and kings will come to the brightness of our shining. We have a destiny, folks. The crushed rose reveals its fragrance. The crushed olive yields the oil.

      Lord, help us to be faithful to you as the darkness closes in.

    • Inspired, compare…

      Isaiah 28
      21 For the LORD shall rise up
      as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon,
      that he may do his work, his strange work;
      and bring to pass his act, his strange act.

      22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong:
      for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption,
      even determined upon the whole earth
      23 Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech.

      24 Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground? 25 When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place?

      26 For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him.

      27 For the fitches are not threshed with a threshing instrument,
      neither is a cart wheel turned about upon the cummin;
      but the fitches are beaten out with a staff,
      and the cummin with a rod.
      28 Bread corn is bruised; because he will not ever be threshing it,
      nor break it with the wheel of his cart, nor bruise it with his horsemen.

      29 This also cometh forth from the LORD of hosts,
      which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working.


    • Amen too, Jacqueline! Also we must pray them awake. Pray the Lord would open their eyes the same way He opened ours. Pray, pray, pray and then pray some more! Its gonna happen. One of these days the whole body is going to be awake and alert, then watch what God will do. Its going to be amazing!

    • Amen sister. Pity the poor soul that is not coverd and protected with the most powerful thing in the universe. The blood of God.
      for he truly is are shield and buckler.

  1. As bad as things seem, there’s still not a worldwide persecution of Christians per se. Two out of three Jews aren’t being murdered yet. In America we aren’t hiding in attics or barricading ourselves behind locked doors yet.
    I believe (can’t prove it, as it’s only a vague notion) it’s going to take several decades more of this “troublesome time” to bring us to a breaking point. But we aren’t there yet. We’re still drinking our lattes at Starbucks, enjoying movies on our ipads, working out to keep our figures trim, buying beautiful bananas that are “just right” in ripeness.
    I bet the greatest generation could tell us a thing or two about tough times. We aren’t there yet. Life is still way too good here.

    • As a PS, let me add…I don’t think we’ll see the last days with our own eyes until:
      1-we’re willing to leave everything behind like the disciples did
      2-we’re so “offensive” that our closest friends and relatives feel compelled to turn against us and turn us in to punishing authorities
      3-the Moslem radicals (currently 10% of Islam) expand to become the majority of Islam (more than 50%), which will eventually happen but we’re not there yet and wont’ be for several more decades
      4-we become like Paul, putting equal value on both life and death
      5-we give up, renounce even, the American dream
      6-we become willing, eager even, to put our life on the line for Christ’s sake

    • Lynne,

      You may be right, but I pray you are wrong about our being here another couple of decades. Like so many people here – I’m ready now.

      Remember what Jesus said – that the generation that saw the beginning of these things (starting with the re-birth of Israel) would not pass away before all these things transpired. That includes the 7 years of Jacob’s Trouble. Since Israel became a nation in 1948, it can’t be much longer, since we will not be here during the Wrath. I cling to this hope.

    • As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of man, They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
      For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

  2. I think to some degree your right Lynne Whelden. We do have a lot more troublesome times to endure. But I believe things will start to unfold a lot quicker than several decades. I could be wrong. That’s just the feeling I get. People will not know what hit them.

    • The Jews of Europe in the late 30’s were sipping their coffees and going to the symphony until the trap was sprung. Some had discernment and got out. The rest were caught in the trap. But I hope Lynne is right.

    • That is what faith in Jesus is for….endurance!

      Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    • No where to go, Eric, but I’d hazard a wild guess that a beach bum lifestyle in El Salvador or Costa Rica might beat the urban or suburban U.S.

      I think for me, since my family is not really awake, I just pray every night for the Lord to prepare us for whatever we must face, and let us be together, and most of all, count us worthy to escape the things that are coming and to stand before the Son of Man. And I pray for my brothers and sisters going through hellfire persecution to be given grace, deliverance, and Holy Spirit anesthesia.

    • Something to consider. Not starting a rapture date but put a spin on it that I have never heard. Who ever said that rapture must be of the physical self. Rapture may be of the soul that happens at death.

    • Hopeful Watcher……..

      Matthew 24:13 is written for the JEWS during the TRIBULATION….
      This verse is speaking about THE JEWS who endure the horrors
      of the 2nd HALF of the Tribulation which will be the WORST PERSECUTION
      EVER EXPERIENCED BY THE JEWISH NATION. 1,260 days until the end…
      the end being when JESUS comes with His Bride…THE CHURCH…
      to kick the anti-CHRIST’s deviled hiney and his beastly army !!!

      Continue reading verse 15-22 This is AFTER the Abom. of Desolation
      is set up in the temple…and THAT IS THE SIGN…that the JEWS are to FLEE
      to the mountains because of verses 21-22 are NOW GOING TO HAPPEN !!!


      Revelation 12 shows this in more detail.



      Read 1 Cor 15:50-58, 1 Thess 4:13-18……

      The BODY is raised from the dirt or transformed if alive !!!

      It is NOT ……”just our soul”….read the bible more clearly.

  3. LA:

    At least Jesus fought long before he died…”Then Jesus went into the temple of God and drove out all those who bought and sold in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves.”

    So, too, must we continue to fight the good fight that the Lord started. If we don’t like something evil, do something about it. Stand up and fight. Sign petitions, pray, approach the blind with the good news, change the status of the underprivileged. Do something–educate the people.

    Stand against tyranny, after all our forefathers stood against tyranny, so must we.

    We must count for something and not just complain. So, too, must we fight before we die. Hope to hear Him say, “Well done my good and faithful servant.”

    Are we truly His “servants?”


    • so true….but you also gave me a thought…..The bible also says that it is good to give to those who serve us. He did have a treasurer with him! So…..would He have been angered at those guys if they had been humbly just giving the doves to the worshipers? Hmmmm, just a thought and I think we should all remember to give a little if we can as we come to this cyber temple/church? Just help our supplier to put out more “doves”

    • Attack the enemy! The Son of man came to destroy the works of the devil. Attack! Attack! attack! Stand up for the poor and needy. Protect the widows and orphans the down trodden, those who Satan has kicked to the curb give the knowledge of God so their lives can be transformed and translated from the Kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of His dear Son. Give them a living hope and a future, a Heavenly Kingdom that will never end. Attack the lies of the enemy, the strongholds that keep them bound and free them from the fear of death. Our God is Mighty! And so are His people that refuse to love this world but choose to follow Him and are willing fight to the death if need be.

  4. Thanks for the Good Word today LA. Encouraging. Praying for you all at the conference.

    The thing about where we’re at now, folks, is unlike Nazi Germany….the WHOLE world is going down in terms of morals, corruption, economy, etc. Pick your category.

    It’s part of the Matthew 24 (among other) prophecies. One world government. One world economy. Getting ready for the AC. We can see it everywhere. Where you going to go to get away from that?

    Hopefully the Lord doesn’t tarry too much longer and helps us out with that problem. 🙂

    Here’s something I saw today and this hit me:

    Facebook gifts.

    Watch this: Revelation 11: 7-10

    “7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.

    8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified.

    9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial.

    10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.”

    Look at verse 10 especially in light of that Facebook gifts link. Just throwing it out there.

    I remember back in the 80s we all wondered how the whole world would be able to see things at the same time and do things like these. Cable, satellite, Internet…you can be in the worse squalor in the Third World and people have cellphones with cameras.

    Something to think about.

    • The thing about where we’re at now, folks, is unlike Nazi Germany….the WHOLE world is going down in terms of morals, corruption, economy, etc.

      If you hadn’t posted this, Eric W., I would have.

      Civilization is failing. We are two steps from Sodom and Gomorrah. What isn’t immorality is laziness, greed, self-absorbtion, and a lack of concern for anyone but self. And a significant portion of the population is deluded by the various subtle — and not-so-subtle — heresies involved in the New Age movement, if not dabbling in other “respectable” religions, if not drawn into the outright worship of the darkest forces.

      I listened to the Russ Dizdar/Canary Cry broadcast someone linked a few days back (thank you, whoever you are). Here in WNC we are in the shadow of Asheville with all its various evils. I’m wondering if anyone in these counties has organized 12/21 prayer events to combat the various ceremonies I’m sure will be conducted by the other side….

      Re. cell phones, Internet, miniature tracking devices of various kinds, camera surveillance of the population: various people have written that we now have all the technology necessary for the fulfillment of the End Times prophecies. We can track the population; we can implement the Mark of the Beast in various ways (even if it’s not completely supernatural as L.A. and others have postulated); the entire world can watch the bodies of the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem.

      We’re here.

  5. TGBG: “Thanks Eric. I really was worried I had offended you. Sometimes I do that without realising it and I find out later that I was offensive to somebody. I really don’t mean to be. Anyway, I think that all of you around here are so articulate and knowledgable/intelligent and things that would take you all only two sentences to say, I need a whole paragraph to say the same thing! ha But I’m working on it.

    Sometimes I try to say something and think, that wasn’t exactly right and try it again. And sometimes even after a few tries, I still feel like I haven’t said what I was trying to say! Also I’m trying not to be a blog hog, because I saw somebody mention that too. So I’m trying to figure it all out ,so I can say in the fewest words possible what I feel the Lord put on my heart.”

    I got you. 🙂

    “On another note. I loved that speech that Bibi gave today! I sat there and watched the whole thing. I have so much respect for that man. Boy I wish he was our president. The difference between him and Obama is like night and day. Hes consistently working every day to protect his people. Hes not out there on the View, or playing golf, but he has integrity, and acts like an adult, which is more than I can say for those in Washington these days. We have immature children running the White House, leaving their work for other people to do. Bibi has such a depth of understanding and history inside of him. He really knows how to command our attention and get his point across. I loved the bomb drawing, it just made everything so clear, that even a child gets it. I just think he’s a special man, I wish he was ours. Eric, if he was on the ballot, would you vote for him?”

    Absolutely. Bibi and Harper in Canada are probably the only leaders in the world I have any real esteem or respect for.

    • Eric, and TBTG, you are right on. Your hearts always shine through as I mentioned a few days ago on another post (as also do many others who post). I also feel very blessed to have Harper as my Prime Minister during these times.

    • Thanks Linda. Likewise and blessings to you. 🙂


      ^^ There’s what real leadership in the West is supposed to look like.

  6. We really are in the last days, and something I’ve been thinking about lately is the freedom we have to express our love for God, and not only our love for Him but how unique and special He is. He is God in three persons, blessed Trinity. That drives Muslims mad when we say that. There may come a time when our religious freedoms are taken away and we’re not allowed to express who the only true God is any more. And that He has a Son Jesus Christ and not only that, but that He came to this Earth and even lived among men as a man. People don’t understand that in Gods eyes humility is strength and that God Himself made it to be that way and that arrogance will destroy anyone. I think it was Obama’s grandfather who rejected christianity because our God seemed weak to him. If they only knew that its His love and humility that gives Him strength and power over all the evil that their god can do. Anyway, I just think every so often we should bring up the fact that our God doesn’t dwell alone, but is a God who loves fellowship. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, blessed Trinity, all dwelling inside one another in love, I think is the most beautiful thing imaginable and we should express His glory while we can, since things are changing so fast, we don’t know what tomorrow will bring.

  7. I posted a reply to Lynne – comment 2 a while ago. My comment says “Your Comment is awaiting moderation”.
    What does this mean? I changed my name from Peggy to Peggy K, so people wouldn’t think I was L.A.’s wife. I was only trying to avoid confusion.

  8. PRAISE THE LORD! Shout His praise from the housetops! There is no one more worthy then OUR GOD! The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, the One true God, the Holy Trinity, blessed be His Holy Name forever and ever! May His Kingdom and dominion never end.

    Ps 148 Praise the Lord!

    Praise the Lord from the heavens;
    Praise Him in the heights!
    2 Praise Him, all His angels;
    Praise Him, all His hosts!
    3 Praise Him, sun and moon;
    Praise Him, all you stars of light!
    4 Praise Him, you heavens of heavens,
    And you waters above the heavens!

    5 Let them praise the name of the Lord,
    For He commanded and they were created.
    6 He also established them forever and ever;
    He made a decree which shall not pass away.

    7 Praise the Lord from the earth,
    You great sea creatures and all the depths;
    8 Fire and hail, snow and clouds;
    Stormy wind, fulfilling His word;
    9 Mountains and all hills;
    Fruitful trees and all cedars;
    10 Beasts and all cattle;
    Creeping things and flying fowl;
    11 Kings of the earth and all peoples;
    Princes and all judges of the earth;
    12 Both young men and maidens;
    Old men and children.

    13 Let them praise the name of the Lord,
    For His name alone is exalted;
    His glory is above the earth and heaven.
    14 And He has exalted the horn of His people,
    The praise of all His saints—
    Of the children of Israel,
    A people near to Him.

    Praise the Lord!

  9. The last two nights I’ve watched Glen Beck”s “The Project” Did any of you guys happen to tune in to this? Our President and left wing radicals are helping and funding the muslim brotherhood and concealing everything from the public media.The brotherhood already has a strangle hold on our government and law enforcement people and pushing sharia law in our courts.If you haven’t seen this you really need to log on to Glen Becks web site and download this.This administration is doing everything to silence anyone who speaks out against Islam.After watching this I was livid(to put it mildly)I thought of horrible things to do these people.I knew what was going through my mind was contrary to the Word of God .In a fit of anger I screamed out at God and asked Him just what do You want us to do,just let them take over ,let them destroy everything???Do you know what God said to me?And I know it was from Him because it sure wasn’t my thoughts—-He said to me “love them as I love you,forgive them as I forgive you”. I still in the grip of anger said to Him ,’and just what are we supposed to do when they come for us?” Oh my sweet Jesus,He said to me “you won’t have to worry about that”Was He refering to the Rapture?I think maybe He was.I have since 2008,wake up praying and go to bed praying,and now it is even more intense.Folks, the web has been spun the trap is set,I truely believe that the Rapture of the church is what is going to set it all off.I think Gabriel has the horn to his lips.May God have mercy on those left behind.

    • Ooops…forgot quotation marks to keep out of moderation!

      Looks like drones have been approved for use on US citizens by law enforcement:


    • Your link also linked to a story about the Police using “Non Lethal” Drones on civilians… ???? this is nuts! Round up tools to herd all the sheep into the FEMA camps!!!

    • “”

      After testing the program quietly in the Bahamas for the last 18 months, the Department of Homeland Security plans to start unmanned surveillance flights into the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico in a move that would more than double miles now covered by the department’s fleet of nine surveillance drones…..

      “U.S. Customs and Border Protection constantly monitors activity and trends of Transnational Criminal Organizations and works closely with other federal, state, local, tribal and international partners to combat smuggling in the source and transit zones,” a U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) spokesperson said in an email to Fox News Latino.

      Not that they can’t be re-purposed by the 666 types.

  10. Agreed things are getting worse, but we have not seen anything close to how bad it is going to get during the last 7 years.

    Yahshua’s return is at the 7th trump which means no one is taken up alive until then and all the other 6 trumps must take place before his return.

    We have not seen any of the following trumps take place;

    The casting down to earth and arrival of the fallen angels (2nd trumpet)

    The casting down to earth and arrival of the antichrist (3rd trumpet, Wormwood)

    The casting down to earth of Satan and his unleashing from the bottomless pit of the locust (5th trump)
    and the fire-breathing horseman (6th trump)

    In other words, we have not started the last 7 years (the beginning of sorrows) nor the last 31/2 years ( the great tribulation); the worst time this world will ever see.

    • Kirt…

      Your “theory” is kinda like the guy who runs a major website for a number
      of years who “thinks” we are 1/2 way through the Tribulation! He can’t even

      He can’t even tell me WHEN Daniel 9:27 was “signed” into a covenant for 7 yrs.

      But yet this guy “insists” on teaching that we are “IN FACT” waiting for the
      2nd HALF of The TRIBULATION to begin !!!

      Gee wiz, never saw in SCRIPTURE that there was a “half time” show !!!!

      And yet…here you are AGAIN…displaying your COMPLETE IGNORANCE
      of The Trumpet Judgments!

      Have you “noticed” that 7 different angels blow these 7 trumpets….??

      They ain’t “The Trumpet of God” as mentioned in 1 Thess 4:16 & 1 Cor. 15:52.

      So quit teaching your idiotic “theory”…and go to WALMART…and get a CLUE.


      Then EXPECT to be told about it….AGAIN !!


    • Domitroviv

      1Co 15:51 Behold, I show you a MYSTERY; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
      1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

      When you look up the word “last” here in Hebrew, “last” means SEVENTH


      שׁבעי שׁביעי
      shebı̂y‛ı̂y shebi‛ı̂y
      sheb-ee-ee’, sheb-ee-ee’
      Ordinal from H7657; seventh: – seventh (time).

      Here is another verse confirming the seventh angel (trumpet) signals the coming of Yahshua and the gathering of his elect.

      Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the SEVENTH ANGEL (7th trump), when he shall begin to sound, the MYSTERY OF ELOHIM should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    • Hi Kirt — maybe this presentation from Gary Stearman will help clarify the difference (regarding the last trump and the last trumpet).


    • Kirt….

      You are just simply ignorant of what the Bible teaches.

      Revelation 1:10 …”a loud voice…LIKE THE SOUND of a TRUMPET…”

      verses 11-18 will tell you WHO ….has the VOICE like a TRUMPET.

      (….and gee wiz…it ain’t a difficult question either. Just read.)

      How about that…”trumpet of GOD”……as stated in 1 Thess 4:16
      ( It is referring to JESUS’ TRUMPET VOICE !!!! )

      Revelation 4:1 says the same thing, AND REFERS BACK to Rev. 1:10.

      Then read HEBREWS 12:18-21……..notice verse 19.

      Then read HEBREWS 12:25-27…….notice verse 26.

      Then read EXODUS 19 …the entire chapter.

      See all the connections yet??

      The Hebrews passages above refer back to THIS PASSAGE in Exodus 19.

      Then see JOB 37:2-5…Psalm 29…and Psalm 68:7-8

      The RAPTURE occurs at the 6th Seal as seen in Revelation 6:12-17.
      Notice what is said in verse 16-17……kinda obvious that “THEIR WRATH”
      begins here…because THE WORD says it does. Obvious, don’t you think?
      It is right there in black and white.

      Also Joel 2:31 tells us WHEN the “Day of The Lord” will begin by what
      specific “signs” there will be “BEFORE” it begins.

      And notice Joel 2:31 is the same as REVELATION 6:12. WOW…!!!

      PLUS….God’s WRATH ends in Revelation 16:17…..17-21…tells how it ends.

      Also Rev 6:15 is the same as Isaiah 2:10-21. Can’t be much clearer.

      So then, Hebrews 12:26 tells us that….



      This takes us back to Haggai 2:6 and also 21….says the same idea.

      TO MEET HIM IN THE AIR (1 thess 4:13-18, 1 Cor 15:50-58, John 14:1-3)
      “SUDDEN DESTRUCTION” as noted in 1 THESS. 5:1-4 which is seen
      in REVELATION 6:12-17 which BEGINS THE WRATH of GOD on earth!!

      AGAIN….Just as THE RAPTURE will happen …in the twinkling of an eye…
      WHEN JESUS’ TRUMPET-LIKE VOICE IS HEARD….at the same instance…

      because the “DAY of The LORD” will come “just like a thief in the night”.

      HIS VOICE…is the “last trumpet”…that will be heard by THE CHURCH.

      And it also “just so happens to be” on The Feast of Trumpets….
      also known as….

      “No man knows THE DAY or THE HOUR.”
      “The Thief in The Night.”
      The Hidden Day
      The Day of Concealment
      The Day of The Last Trump
      The Day of The Awakening Blast….as in awakening The Dead in Christ
      The Opening of The Gates (of Heaven)
      The Wedding of The Messiah

      Hopefully you finally get it…so you can teach it right.

    • Also,
      Most of your response above does not negate that the final trump is the 7th trump at which Yahshua retruns.

      You did not directly respond to my response about

      1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

      When you look up the word “last” here in Hebrew, “last” means SEVENTH


      שׁבעי שׁביעי
      shebı̂y‛ı̂y shebi‛ı̂y
      sheb-ee-ee’, sheb-ee-ee’
      Ordinal from H7657; seventh: – seventh (time).

      Here is another verse confirming the seventh angel (trumpet) signals the coming of Yahshua and the gathering of his elect.

      Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the SEVENTH ANGEL (7th trump), when he shall begin to sound, the MYSTERY OF ELOHIM should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    • I have watched the first 5 minutes and already see red flags. I will watch it all but just wanted to post what I see already.

      quote from Stearman

      “we have a 1st trump and a last trump. I believe there are two trumpets in scripture”

      We are told in Revelation there are 7 trumpets.

    • Here is quote from Stearman

      “The 7th trumpet is blown by an angel but its ONLY an announcement” “its is not the actual second coming, read it for yourself and you will see this”

      He never reads the verses on the 7th trumpet. Why did he not read the verse?

      Here are two verses from the 7th trumpet.

      Do these verses sound like ONLY an announcement to you???

      Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

      Rev 11:19 And the temple of Elohim was opened in heaven, and there was seen in the temple of the Sovereign the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

      No, these are NOT only announcements. Yahshua wrath is come which takes place at his return, we see judgment which takes place at his return, we see the temple of Elohim in heaven which happens at His return.

    • quote from Stearman

      “He promised not to take his followers through the great tribulation”

      He did not support his statement with any verses. Not one. Someone please posts a verse that says this.

    • Stearman says we are not appointed to God’s wrath. Which I believe scripture teaches as well.

      The trumpets are Satan’s trials and wrath as I already said go back up to my original post.

      Those that keep the commandments of Elohim and the faith of Yahshua will be preserved THROUGH the last 7 years including the tribulation

      Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
      Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of Elohim, and the faith of Yahshua.

      We see in scripture that Yahshua’s wrath does not come till the 7trh trump at which we are taken out 1st. and the same event (his Return) is described in the 6th seal.

      Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

      6th seal

      Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
      Rev 6:17 For the great day of his WRATH is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    • Kirt, “When you look up the word “last” here in Hebrew, “last” means SEVENTH”
      I looked up last and it does not mean what you said in Hebrew. How did you come up with that?

    • and the greek related word for seventh is last.

      שׁבעי שׁביעי
      shebı̂y‛ı̂y shebi‛ı̂y
      sheb-ee-ee’, sheb-ee-ee’
      Ordinal from H7657; seventh: – seventh (time).

      LXX related word(s)
      G2078 eschatos
      G1442 hebdomos *

      A superlative probably from G2192 (in the sense of contiguity); farthest, final (of place or time): – ends of, LAST, latter end, lowest, uttermost.

    • Kirt, I saw that: “Hebrew 7637 is the strongs LXX related word” which corresponds to the ordinal number 7th.
      But you said: “When you look up the word “last” here in Hebrew, “last” means SEVENTH”

      Last does not mean seventh.

    • Kirt, It is sufficient enough to trust the English translation of the bible. Leave translation to the translators. Drain Bamage might occur otherwise.

    • In Joshua we see an excellent parallel of the gathering together of the saints and the city = Jericho which is a parallel to Mount Sinai and Mount Zion appearing in heaven with Yahshua at his return.

      Notice Just like in Rev 8:6 there are 7 trumpets with the 7th trump being the longest, loudest blast at which the city falls down and the people ascend up.

      Jos 6:1 Now Jericho was straitly shut up (given over) because of the children of Israel: none went out, and none came in.

      Jos 6:2 And Yahweh said unto Joshua, See, I have given into thine hand Jericho, and the king thereof, and the mighty men of valour.

      Jos 6:3 And ye shall compass the city, all ye men of war, and go round about the city once. Thus shalt thou do (finish, bring to pass) six days.

      Jos 6:4 And seven priests shall bear (lift) before the ark (a box, but also in the sense of gathering, pluck) SEVEN trumpets of rams’ horns {the blast of a horn (from its continuous sound); specifically the signal of the silver trumpets; hence the instrument itself and the festival thus introduced: – jubile, ram’s horn, trumpet, especially with pomp}

      : and the seventh day ye shall compass (revolve, surround or border) the city (Jericho, involves the moon) seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets.

      Jos 6:5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the ram’s horn (the 7th and last trumpet), and when ye hear the sound (loud, thundering) of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the people (flock, assembly) shall ascend up every man straight before (about, around) him.

      Jos 6:6 And Joshua the son of Nun called the priests, and said unto them, Take up the ark of the covenant, and let seven priests bear (lift) SEVEN trumpets of rams’ horns before the ark of Yahweh.

      Jos 6:8 And it came to pass, when Joshua had spoken unto the people, that the seven priests bearing (lifting) the SEVEN trumpets of rams’ horns passed on before Yahweh, and blew with the trumpets: and the ark of the covenant of Yahweh followed them.

      Jos 6:16 And it came to pass at the SEVENTH time, when the priests blew with the TRUMPETS, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for Yahweh hath given you the city (Jericho).

    • Pudding,

      If you want to go ahead stick with the English translation but you are guaranteed to have mistranslations of words which then leads to misunderstanding of verses.

      The writers of the bible were all Hebrew. In order to get ALL the accurate meaning of words we need to go back into the orginal Hebrew meanings of words.

      I prefer to know the correct meaning of words, dont you?

      The cool part is these days we can easily check the Hebrew meanings of words.

    • Kirt, I am a paid translator, I was giving “you” some advice based on your previous posts and the knowledge you show about the subject. It is always to good to compare if you know what you are doing. As I said before It is sufficient enough to trust the English translation of the bible, especially the KJV. But there is nothing that can not be argued.

    • thankyou for the advice as that is what I check/compare. All the other scripture. All the other scripture supports the “last” trump fits the Hebrew related word, the 7th trump.

      and, no, do not beleive it is sufficient to trust all the KJV. Case in point the word “last”.

      Since you are a paid translator then you should know that errors do happen when translating words.

      It is best to go straight to the orginal and that is Hebrew.

    • Kirt……………

      Only YOU….(and the Benevolent Troll)…………

      Can sooo masterfully make a simple truth and make it “utter chaos of thought.”

      How you both do it…I will NEVER know!

      I’d rather spend my days trying to nail jello to a wall….while it’s liquid….

      than to attempt a serious conversation with either of you.

      You are BOTH proof that our teachers do NOT get paid enough.


    • The simple truth is Yahshua returns at the 7th trump. No chaos.

      We have had a serious conversation.

      I am simple stating what the scriptures say.

      My advice to you is study the trumpets, seals, Matthew chapter 24, the 10 plagues cast on Egypt, and the Angel vials as they are describing the same key events that I listed on first response.

      i also told you that you in our conversations before that you should get a program to check the Hebrew meanings of words. I use E-sword. its free. /There many on line.

      Also, I did not disrespect you or compare you to some troll or degrade your responses.

      I respect you and just tried having a dialouge about a biblical topic.

      Maybe we’ll converse again

  11. On the subject of things getting worse, you may want to have a look at this article. Teeth filed to look like fangs, full body tatoos and piercings everywhere (including on the genitals). And now the latest fad from Japan is getting a “bagel forehead” (or other body part “bageled”.) Doesn’t anyone want to look like a normal human being any more?


    • I just watched a video of the “bageled forehead” thing today! Very disturbing stuff indeed. The tattoos, piercings, teeth filings and various body modifications (like the bagel-head and implants to make “horns” and pointed ears) makes these people look like drawings you see depicting demons! Extremely creepy! It tells how far society has fallen down the tubes when people purposely do this to themselves to look demonic!

    • I didn’t know how perverse TV had become until last PM. I was looking for a local news broadcast, and I came across the popular sitcom Two and a Half Men. Incredibly creepy for a person who has not been watching such shows.
      It shows two straight men discussing what it would be like to try out a homosexual marriage. And it shows the “hero”
      in bed with a new girlfriend, and talking to her about his ex-wife and his ex-girlfriend, and then indulging in extreme, although clothed, sexual maneuvers. This is on at a time when children are often still up doing homework, or perusing TV after homework is finished. Ashton Kucher, the star, looks like a moron. Maybe the “bed” scenes wouldn’t be too bad for kids to see, but see two straight men discussing what it would be like to take up the homosexual lifestyle makes it seem “OK”, or “just a joke”, “just a pastime when you’re between women”, etc. Did I laugh? No, too stunned.

  12. More indications of crowd control coming?


  13. I must admit this is SHOCKING but then again I’m not that familiar w/ how Orthodox Jews think. I guess WOW!!! is a start. I read that this was a private meeting @ the U.N. event.

  14. The “fallen ones” are discussing an “October Surprise” in their channelings. Perhaps more Disclosure. They have been talking about wealth distribution for a few months and lo and behold today, the UN is going to start taxing wealthier states/people in order to distribute that money to the poorer countries. This is why I read their stuff, albeit with discernment.

    • Julie, so what do they say the October surprise will be? Oh its a surprise shesh..
      Maybe they will confess they have Jimmy Hoffa?

      A U.N. tax, I read that very interesting as if the third world needs an allowance and the people who will handle this money will be trustworthy of course. Now I wonder who the wealthy nations might be?

  15. Hi All: The subject of when the true believers will be “taken to heaven” seems to pop up quite often now as time seems to be winding down. This will be the longest comment I have ever made anywhere, but it is so important! There are some who insist that “the church” will have to endure at least part of God’s wrath even though He promised:

    1 Thessalonians 1:10 (KJV)
    10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

    We were also instructed to: 1 Thessalonians 4:18 (KJV)
    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    And what words of comfort were those? 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (KJV)
    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    I suppose for those who believe in a “rapture”, the timing is what seems to be in question.
    Back in August Jack Kinsella wrote something in his The Omega Letter, that I have never heard from anyone discussing this subject–he used a verse that I’ve never seen anyone else use to emphasize what the coming of Jesus for his true church would be like. I asked for and received permission from Mr. Kinsella to use a portion of his Omega Letter. This should receive serious consideration:

    “As the Apostles watched Jesus ascend into Heaven after Pentecost, two angels stood by, and addressed them.
    “Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven.” (Acts 1:11)
    Jesus did NOT ascend into Heaven astride a white horse, accompanied by ten thousands of His saints, and bearing a flaming sword of judgment. He ascended into Heaven in secret, witnessed only by His Apostles and the two angelic witnesses.
    So, if Jesus is to return for His Church in “like manner” to the way He left it, then He comes in secret, visible only to the Church and the angelic witnesses.
    Jesus ALSO promised that the Comforter would indwell us until He returns for us.
    If, as I said, the purpose of the Rapture was to provide a ‘Great Escape’ for a single generation of supremely undeserving Christians, then I would share the same problem as others do.
    Why wouldn’t the Church have to endure the Tribulation? What are we, something special compared to all those generations who came before?
    In reality, the Rapture isn’t a Great Escape for Christians — it is the promised evacuation of the Holy Spirit — which requires the evacuation of the vessels He indwells.
    It might seem unfair from the perspective of man, but therein lies the difficulty. God doesn’t see things the way that we do.
    That is why He expects us to trust His Word.
    “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths. (Proverbs 3:5)”

    Maranatha my brothers and sisters!

    • Nice point about “Coming in like manner.” Coming as the Bridegroom for the 5 wise maidens while the foolish sleep. Coming as a thief in the night….

      And who is this that comes from Heaven in Rev. 12? Clothed with the sun, the moon beneath her feet, and stars about her head? (Laboring and birthing the manchild, that’s caught up to throne of Heaven.) She’s fed well enough even in the wilderness, but not manna. So clearly not the millennial kingdom, where there’s abundance.

      She comes down before the Rev. 13 emergence of the beasts and the 666 system. My point is that there’s a place of protection, at least spiritually, but likely also physically. And it’s not like those from Heaven need protection physically. And that protection can be just as easily from the Wrath of God as any wrath of the rebels angels. Like the Armor of God, protection doesn’t mean not getting hit.

      And then there’s the point where the martyrs in Christ return with Him in Rev. 19.

      In the interest of full transparency, I believe the rapture is when our resurrected natural bodies rejoin or spiritual bodies that are already with Christ — for those He’s saved — and not leaving out those that have not died yet who are saved. “The dead in Christ” meaning our natural bodies … ashes to ashes and dust to dust.

      There’s no good reason to worry or be fearful about what’s coming. None at all.

    • Nomemoleste….

      Revelation 12 speaks of “the Woman” …who is symbolic of ISRAEL.

      ISRAEL … The Woman…brought forth “the male child”…JESUS… verse 5.

      verse 6 is “The Jews” fleeing …just like it says in Matthew 24:15-22.

      This is the MID-point of the TRIBULATION when the Abom of Desolation
      is set up in the temple. Jews are told to FLEE because of Matt 24:21-22.
      THE SIGN to FLEE is the ABom of Desolation!!

      SEVERE PERSECUTION for the JEWS occurs from this point for the final
      1,260 days of the LAST half of the TRIBULATION.

      Rev 12:12 tells us that Satan and his angels are finally booted out of the
      heavens (2nd heaven) and come down to the earth in great wrath.

      verse 13 SATAN persecuted the woman…ISRAEL…THE JEWS…
      he knows he has a “short time”….exactly 1,260 days ….at which time
      JESUS comes back WITH HIS BRIDE…THE CHURCH….Rev 19:7-21.

      but GOD prepared a place for THE JEWS during this time in Bozrah.
      aka= Petra…the city in the rocks. verse 6,14 both speak of this.

      Other passages (like Isaiah 34:1-10 and 63:1-6) in OT mention Bozrah also and that this is where JESUS arrives to save THE JEWS that are still alive on the final day of the TRIBULATION….
      1,260 days AFTER the Abom. of Desolation set up
      and the devil booted to the earth…
      OR, 2,520 days from the signing of the covenant in Daniel 9:27.

      For a fuller understanding of our bodies regarding being dead or alive…
      see 1 Corinthians 14:39-49, 15:50-58,
      Philippians 3:20-21, 1 Thess 4:13-18

      All those verses go together to give greater understanding.


    • I dont pretend to know when the rapture happens. By most i would probably be called a prewrath midtriber.

      That said, I have a general question. Why is it assumed that if we are on the earth until the very end (and I am not saying we will be) that we will be experiencing in any way God’s wrath? Why would we minimize the power of God in that way? Did He not send a flood, while protecting a remenant? Did He not send the plagues upon Egypt and passover the faithful? Did He not destroy Sodom and Gomorroh and alert some to escape to a safe location?

      Why is the first thing we say is, “but we are not appointed to wrath” and then we go on to presume that this is ONLY possible because we were raptured away to safety. Yes, we will meet Him in the air, but we assume too much as to the purpose of this miraculous event.

    • Have either of you read LUKE 21:34-36….

      34“Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap; 35for it will come upon all those who dwell on the face of all the earth. 36“But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place,
      >>>>>>>>>>>and to STAND before the Son of Man.” (remember this!)

      Note verse 35…
      “for it will come upon all those who dwell on the face of all the earth.”


      Note verse 36…
      “…and to STAND before the Son of Man.” This is JESUS.

      Compare the people [on earth] saying ….

      Revelation 6:16-17….
      16and they said to the mountains and to the rocks,
      “Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;

      17for the great day of [their wrath has come],

      [and who is able to stand] ?”

      (ahhh, guess what…THE CHRISTIANS DO STAND…..BEFORE GOD!!!)


      Compare the people [in Heaven] ….

      Revelation 7:9-10…
      9After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues,

      >>>>>>>>>>>>[STANDING before the throne and before the Lamb],

      clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;

      10and they cry out with a loud voice, saying,
      “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”


      WHILE THE “non” CHRISTIAN IS ON THE EARTH “acknowledging”
      that WRATH HAS COME …and that THEY can NOT stand !!!!!!!!!!

      Revelation 6:16-17 is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Revelation 7:10.




      If you all want to make up “your own crazy teaching”…that is your choice.

      Better to stick with the Bible…God wrote it.


    • Maranatha,

      That response left out the previous two verses that give more description of the “like manner”.

      Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a CLOUD received him out of their sight.
      Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

      Like manner does not mean EVERYTHING will be the same.

      We have plenty of verses that state EVERY EYE will see him at his return

      Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with CLOUDS; and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

      Does this look like a secrete? That only the church sees?

      Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall ALL the TRIBES of the earth mourn, and THEY SHALL SEE the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great majesty.
      Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

      Does this look like a secrete?

      Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
      Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
      Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

  16. Tribulation and Rapture. We are not meant for the wrath of God. His wrath being eternal separation from Him and we avoid that by believing in His Son. Yeshua warns us over and over as to what we’ll see and experience before His return and would not do so if it wasnt so. We will see and experience the opening of the first six seals and that means my friends that we had better be prepared for bad times before were taken out of here. As much as we know were not meant for Gods wrath (eternal damnation) were going to suffer the wrath of man, fallen man who is fueled by the evil one. Lots of ugliness will be poured out upon the earth before the Lord reveals Himself to His elect as we meet Him in the air. The world will see Him in all His glory and anger when He returns to defeat satan and his armies.

    • Amen, like the Jews passed over from the wrath of God in Egypt when they put the blood of the lamb over their door, so too will we be passed over not being appointed to His wrath, when the blood of the lamb in Jesus covers us and we give public testimony about Jesus in our lives.

    • John Michael…

      Do you live on some “isolated” island ???

      There is ALREADY ‘lots of ugliness’ on this earth.
      I have experienced a large portion of this ‘ugliness” to know it’s here…NOW !!
      You don’t have to stop sipping your tea to see it either…
      just stick your bod outside …near people…and I guarantee you….
      it will NOT be long………..”and the ugliness” will FROWN in your direction!!

      point 1:
      THE ELECT……This speaks of ISRAEL….The JEW. ( NOT the CHURCH !! )

      point 2:

      The First 5 Seals have already been opened !!!!

      1st seal= The Anti-CHRIST SPIRIT as John spoke of in 1 John and 2 John.
      The anti-CHRIST “spirit” has been here ever since Jesus went to heaven!!!!

      2nd seal = Gee, WHEN HAS THERE BEEN PEACE & MEN DIDN’T KILL ??

      3rd seal = Ever go oversees and see the FAMINES and the price THEY PAY ??

      WARS….FAMINES….PESTILENCES….WILD BEASTS/misquitos,lice,etc ??
      (“wild beasts” don’t have to be tigers, they can be tiny disease carriers!!!!)

      >>>>>>THESE ARE “CHURCH-AGE” MARTYRS….ever since Jesus left !!!

      By the way…read 2 Timothy 3:12….
      And indeed, ALL who desire to LIVE GODLY in Christ Jesus…….
      WILL BE PERSECUTED. ( NOT maybe, or occasionally…BUT WILL !!!)


      Cause PERSECUTION is here and getting worse worldwide for Christians.

      But THE CHURCH is NOT appointed unto WRATH. 1 Thess 5:9
      see also 1 Thess 1:10 and Romans 5:9




    • Kirk, why are you so angry? Insults and name calling, along with your all caps response to anyone you don’t agree with.

    • Angry or desperate? Pretrib is a very fragile vessel that if, God forbid, it shatters into pieces will leave us feeling abandoned and alone. Nothing is further from the truth. Jesus lives in us now and even if we walk through the shadow of the valley of death, we will endure in faith, love and hope.

    • John Michael…

      WHO is the “person” who says THAT USING CAPS means your angry???
      That is simply D.U.M.B. Maybe you TEXT …I don’t live in that world.
      I happen to LIKE using CAPS …ALOT or ALL THE TIME.
      Often depends ON WHAT I TRY TO EMPHASIZE or POINT OUT or an IDEA.
      EVEN on the TYPE writer when i began TYPING in grade school.
      I like to ACCENT things. Same thing I do in my books.

      AND yes….even SARCASM can be used to make a point…
      because IT GETS ATTENTION….and makes a person PONDER about
      the idea or thought or point attempted to be made.

      The bible even says “to answer a FOOL according to his FOLLY.”

      Regarding earlier post of two said people….
      I have attempted on numerous posts to bring clarity to some things
      they TOTALLY don’t understand. MANY OTHERS have made that
      attempt to no avail. The benevolent Troll takes things
      out of context and twists things and simply hasn’t been taught on many
      things……..but here is the kicker….he refuses to learn THE TRUTH.
      Not mine or To God Be The Glory’s or Pudding’s, etc. etc. ….
      BUT THE TRUTH IN THE WORD….and that ain’t open for opinions.

      the other guy Kirt, I have attempted on many posts to help him learn
      some things he is also MISSING BY A LONG SHOT…..and if it wasn’t
      for the fact that he is TOTALLY IN ERROR and sharing it with others
      like it is TRUTH…I would say nothing. However, if he is going to share
      something that WILL EFFECT OTHERS by teaching something in error,
      then WE ALL have a choice to just let it go by OR try to reveal TRUTH.






      Tonight, the frustration of dealing with Kirt… AGAIN…on THE SAME TOPIC,
      has brought me to see that he simply ain’t getting it right now.
      His “reasons” and statements can’t hold water ……
      or the scrutiny of THE WORD.


      When someone says they “believe” something …
      relative to SPIRITUAL truth…
      it MUST BE founded on THE WORD….period.

      Someone can SAY they don’t believe something….
      Like JESUS being The Son of God…but that don’t change the TRUTH of it.

      Just like The Rapture….4 or 5 views on that topic…..
      they CAN’T be all TRUE. The Holy Spirit means what He says….and YES,
      there is a SPECIFIC TRUTH related to The Rapture!!! God was NOT
      foolish “to leave it up to us”….HE PUT IT IN HIS WORD….and HIS WORD
      must be RIGHTLY HANDLED in order to KNOW THE TRUTH.

      Just like MANY people apply verses to the CHURCH that are for ISRAEL…
      and vic versa…when that occurs confusion results…and then people
      blame it on “that ole’ devil” ….when God Himself says….
      And the devil just laughs at the IGNORANCE in The CHURCH !!

      HOW GOD PUT IT TOGETHER….& for us to search out a matter….

      Then “that ole’ devil” …along with the IGNORANCE of the UN-taught…
      will lead people into error and false teaching.

      Just like I posted earlier in a separate post today about a man who has
      a ministry TEACHING PEOPLE that we are “half way through” the TRIB…
      WHAT NONSENSE !!!! And this goofball has a bunch of SCRIPTURES
      that “he says” are supporting “his beliefs”. Well, sorry Charlie……
      you can’t RIP VERSES out of CONTEXT….then force them to say what
      you “think” they mean. SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS SCRIPTURE….
      and The Spirit of TRUTH confirms it all. And God is SERIOUS about
      teaching it correctly…..without opinions or “personal ideas on a subject”
      clouding the very truth HE reveals in HIS WORD. IF we would STUDY…
      and SEEK HIS UNDERSTANDING…the TRUTH will be revealed !!!

      “Preach The WORD; be ready in season and out of season;
      reprove, rebuke, exhort, with all patience and instruction.” 2 Tim 4:2

      “All SCRIPTURE is “God-breathed” and profitable
      for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
      that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.”
      2 Tim 3:16-17


  17. Hi Guys/Gals:

    I haven’t written anything in awhile but I’ve been around and always reading LA’s blog and comments. First, I’d like to say God bless you and Thank you to all my brothers and sisters who endeavor to keep this commenting section a worthwhile place to share our ideas and to encourage each other. I believe the majority of us here are on the same page…with the exception of a few who just cannot contain their misunderstanding or even possibly mishandling of the Word of God. I thank LA for keeping this comment section open, especially with all that he is responsible for. I pray and will continue to pray that the Truth of the Word of God be made manifest here and that the beauty of the love of Christ that is shown between us that live by His Spirit would continue to shine and be an encouragement to all who come this way. In regard to today’s post, it is ever more evident as each day passes, even as each hour passes, just how close we are to the Lord’s return. Whether it be 20 more years or 2 or less, I believe we will continue to be very anticipatory of meeting our Savior in the air. And if we must endure more trecherous times until we meet Him in the air, I know He will in faithfulness enable us to shine more brightly, as others above have expressed. No matter what we go through, we are more than conquerors, Amen!!!

    I also came across a wonderful Youtube video on a website of Contance Cumbey. She has a lot of thoughtful things on her blog as well…but this particular video is very inspiring indeed. It is a press conference calling for a mass exodus of the black and latino population to come out from among the Democratic Party by a group called STAND or Bishop EG Jackson could not say it any better. If you get a chance, hop over to and take a look at it. It makes you feel a bit hopeful and we could all use that at this time, amen!!

    God bless to you all. I love you all and look so forward to meeting you all in eternity and sharing our Saviour forever.

  18. Why would the Lord instruct his angel to go forth and place a “Seal” on the forehead of his elect if we are not going to be around to see the chaos/apocalypse while still on this earth???

    • Mysticmentor………

      The ELECT speaks of ISRAEL…The JEWS…………not the CHURCH.

      Once the CHURCH is raptured off this ROCK…then Jesus has the 144,000 Jews sealed in their foreheads so that they are the witnesses of the gospel
      during the first half of the Tribulation…and these 144,000 are also known
      as “The First Fruits” to God and to The Lamb as seen in Revelation 14:1-5.

      WHY are these 144,000 Jews known as “The First Fruits” ???????

      Because when the BODY of CHRIST…HIS CHURCH…HIS BRIDE….
      is “caught up”…RAPTURED…to Heaven……….


      Once these 144,000 JEWS begin to preach “this gospel of the Kingdom”…
      like it says in Matthew 24:14…

      THEN there will be a WORLDWIDE REVIVAL on the earth during the
      first portion of the Tribulation. But the vast majority of these BELIEVERS
      will die for their faith !!!!

      The Tribulation is “Jacob’s Trouble”….jacob is ISRAEL. Jer 30:7


    • I don’t believe that the “Church” is going anywhere until it’s all said and done, (Post Trib.) We will be protected in the “Wilderness” during this time, but we are gonna witness the whole show.

    • If Jesus is true to His word, then we are to be fishers of men. Kind of hard to fish if we have left the boat! We are His instrument of salvation through our testimony. What lost souls will hear us when we are in the air?

      These debates drive me crazy. What consequence is it for us to be right, other than our own egos? Love trumps all and the master of that love is Jesus. We focus on that and everything else is small by comparison.

    • You’re right,Hopeful. Without love,it is all useless clanging.

      However,one could ask what does the adversary stand to gain from this confusion?… From setting about a belief in a “pre-trib rapture”?… Does someone just plain want
      Christians taken out of the way?

      Who would gain and why? How can we find out?

      Is there a possible motive? Method? Desired outcome?

      Inquiring minds want to know! 🙂

  19. As usual in all Christian internet blogs, no agreement about Rapture! Time to give up speculating about it? I think we should pray for it to happen. Why am I such a wimp? Well, I don’t want to extend this post clear off the bottom of the page. Basically,
    I think the nature of the tribulation will include very advanced tech which no one, even devoted Christians, can defy, as in 1984.
    L.A. has suggested that one of these advanced techs will be a method of changing human DNA in an already fully formed person, and that this would end the person’s ability to have any choice in any situation. Some of the best science fiction is about humans who manage to outsmart Satan and the technology the Devil has planted in them–see Larry Niven’s “Inferno”, based on his update of Dante’s “Inferno.” He describes the overcoming of nearly impossible odds against ultimate salvation,
    which I think may occur in the Tribulation, but will involve more gumptiion than most humans possess. The Lord knows we are not often that strong. We are not superman. We need His help to be delivered from temptation greater than ever known.
    As Jesus said, this will be a time like none other. We need not compare our little wimpy selves to the conquerors of the faith in the past, for we will meet a challenge they never knew–if we are still here.

    • I agree. The scriptures are clear when they say to give up everything and take up your cross. I do not think this is hyperbole.

      If the cost to follow Jesus in the coming days is total poverty and persecution compared to the benefit of falling in line with the NWO to attain security, health, material prosperity and possibly even “immortality” (think tampering with DNA here), how many wouldn’t lose an ounce of sleep picking the latter?

    • Mariel Strauss…..


      certainly Jesus did….AND JESUS IS SERIOUS ABOUT THAT !!!!

      Now then…. it is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT for “the saints” alive during
      the TRIBULATION. (These are NOT ….THE CHURCH !!!! )

      REMEMBER: what Matthew 16:18 says above and COMPARE with
      the following two passages.

      Daniel 7:21-22 says …
      21“I kept looking, and that horn was waging war with the saints and overpowering them 22until the Ancient of Days came and judgment was passed in favor of the saints of the Highest One, and the time arrived when the saints took possession of the kingdom.


      SOOO……These “saints” can’t be THE CHURCH “saints”…or Jesus lied.

      Because “the Gates of Hell will NOT…..overpower HIS CHURCH.” Matt 16:18

      Lets see the next passage which shows the same thing.

      Daniel 12:7….second 1/2 of the verse….
      “…that it would be for a time, times, and half a time(3 1/2 years or 1,260 days); and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed.

      “finish shattering the power of the holy people”…..

      WOW…..sounds kinda serious to me! BUT…”these” ain’t The CHURCH.

      These “holy people” are the JEWS……..Daniel was a JEW.

      the Book of Daniel is about “his people” ….THE JEWS !!!



      See the HUGE difference?


  20. Kirk made these two statements.

    1)….Because when the BODY of CHRIST…HIS CHURCH…HIS BRIDE….
    is “caught up”…RAPTURED…to Heaven……….

    2)…. “the Woman” …who is symbolic of ISRAEL.

    This might seem like nitpicking,but either the church is the bride or Israel is the bride.

    I don’t think Jesus is a bigamist.
    Seems to me it can’t be both ways.

    • You just copied my answer, and you STILL can’t read it….. amazing!

      THE CHURCH is THE BRIDE of Jesus Christ….who He is coming to get
      in John 14:1-3, 1 Thess 4:13-18, 1 Corinthians 15:50-58, Phil 3:20-21,
      1 Thess 1:10, 1 Corinthians 1:7-8

      ISRAEL is The Jews….the go through the TRIBULATION.

      WOW….still gets missed……….Even when it is in Black and white.


  21. The “Catching up” of the Saints to join Jesus in the air will involve an instant transformation… then we will be given a horse and a weapon and we will turn right back around and join all the other Saints in the army of the Lord and invade earth with Jesus at the head of His army… The “Rapture” is not a free ticket to front row seats in order to “Watch” the worlds decent into chaos… It is an instant recruitment of the remaiming elect of God to join the battle… We go up, get transformed, and turn right back around to join the attack. IMHO.

    • Mm, what do you make of this? Satan has just been locked up. In particular the beheaded part and the criteria that go with it.

      Rev. 20
      4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

      5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

  22. the mean spiritedness of this site is astounding. if anyone dares speak in question, however benign of the majority of you folks’ dogma, the wagons are circled, and the ostracization begins. where is the humility, the compassion, the meekness? is this what you process as the example the Lord set for us? Doesn’t truth invite and bear up to investigation? Isn’t it written, “Let us consider”? Having a form of godliness, indeed.

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