WWIII – UPDATE – 30 day War?

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L. A. Marzulli

Tel Aviv ready for 30-day war with Iran: Outgoing Israeli minister

PressTV – Tel Aviv ready for 30-day war with Iran: Outgoing Israeli minister

NOTE: I am feeling under the weather today as I have some how contracted the dreaded summer cold, so I’ll make this short.

The link above states that war is coming to the Middle East and it will be when Israel strikes Iran.  I believe that the Israeli’s are intentionally letting the cat out of the bag because they know, from their INTEL that they can disable Iran as this Defense Minister informs us.  I also believe that they have very few other options and thus, they are laying their cards on the table for all to see.

Syria, Iran’s ally is quagmired in a civil war and while HAMAS and Hezbollah talk a big game they know that they are no match for the Israeli’s.

Here’s something to think about.  Mahmoud I’m-in-a-jihad, has stated recently – I posted about it here – that Israel would be wiped off the map.  I believe that the statements posted in the link above make it very clear to the Iranians that the Israeli’s will not tolerate this kind of bluster.  Let me make this crystal clear.  If Putin, the Russian president announced today that the USA would be annihilated what would the response be of the average American?  See, when we put it in that light it becomes clear that we would not cower to a bully, and thus neither should Israel.  In the meantime I’m off to pump some more vitamin C.

160 thoughts on “WWIII – UPDATE – 30 day War?

  1. Get well, L.A. Allicin, an ingredient from garlic, is good too against both viruses and bugs. You can buy the pills or capsules online. Stock up, hoping to defeat the oncoming: bird flu mutation now in several states of the US.

    • God bless you, L.A. When I’m not feeling well I tend to forget the basics, so I can’t resist adding the importance of staying very well hydrated.

      Today’s post strikes me as totally spot on, as always. Thanks again!

    • To the above prescription, let me add chicken soup and naps.

      Prayers, you got — and from many, many lurkers, I’m sure, as well as posters.

  2. Caramelized onions and garlic are a really tasty way to get the allicin and tastes great with a big steak! Making it medicine justifies the outrageous expense of the meat? Just add the fresh garlic at the end so it doesn’t burn!

    • @ Elaine, you’re making me hungry.

      I know it goes against everything they’re teaching today, but I think that meat is really good for us, and has things in it that we can’t get any other way.I also think that Dr Atkins was on to something. I know that I personally, feel stronger and healthier when I eat beef. Not chicken, not fish, but beef.

    • @LA-follow all these suggestions and pray for a speedy recovery!

      @To God Be the Glory: Just can’t resist adding to what you said about meat. You are right that meat is good for you and that includes beef. The really BIG problem with beef today is that it is NOT the beef that God originally created, but is full of GMO foods, antibiotics, etc., etc. that makes it not good for human consumation UNLESS the cows are organically grown, pasture raised on organic grasses, etc. Then, the meat is not only delicious but safe to eat.

    • Yes, Barb….that is what makes the really good stuff so expensive! I mean really…..the big agra horror stockyards are high enough on prices. A good steak is priced sky high. I am blessed that my son got a grass fed cow butchered from one of his partners friends and gave mama enough to have beef once a week for half a year or more!

    • @BIV,
      I think thats good advice, but for those who can’t afford to buy grass fed beef etc, the beef in the stores (not Walmart) will have to do as long as we remember to give thanks to the Lord and believe that when we bless our food He will be faithful to take care of all the hormones etc. I think thats the most important thing is the blessing over our food and giving thanks. When I was thinking about these things, the Lord showed me that when Jesus sent His disciples out, He told them to eat whatever was set before themThey didn’t have to say they can’t eat anything made with too much olive oil or honey..I think we worry too much about our food.But thats just my oppinion. I know that people have been healed by following strict diets. Everyone has to be convinced in their own heart. For things like this, there is more than one right way.

      Somewhere I heard they said that all of the wheat grown today is hybrid and not the wheat grown in Bible times, so since we can’t eliminate everything we just have to do the best with the food supply thats available and what we can afford and use our faith in God to do the rest.

      These are minor issues and everyone can make up their own minds. We are told that its not about what we eat and drink, but righteousness and holiness in the Lord.

      The Bible talks about in the end times they will be preaching to abstain from meat completely, together with marriage. Those days don’t seemto be too far away.

    • TGBTG! True! I try to watch and avoid the poisons they are putting in our food as much as possible but your post reminded me of a day when I was about to eat a junk food meal that was bought as a gift to me and as I prayed, “Lord bless this food to my body to strengthen me to do your work,” I threw in a “Please don’t let this be GMO or…..” and before I could get that prayer any farther, He distinctly told me that I would be fine and that He could overcome anything they could do to me and the body is amazing and fearfully made…..that hydrochloric acid in my stomach is pretty powerful! Then He said, “It isn’t what goes into a person that defiles…..”
      But still, I don’t use that excuse often and when I do it usually involves chocolate! 🙂

    • @TGBTG & Elaine: Thank you so much for reminding me that God will protect us. I am very careful about what I eat and it has made a tremendous difference in this old body–totally quit all prescription medicine and use supplements recommended by nutritionist, but you are so right to state that our faith in God’s ability and willingness to protect His children will ultimately be what we will have to depend on if and when the healthier choices may very well become unavailable. Thanks! I really appreciate your exhortation to faith!


    • Yeah, Mystic! Isn’t it funny how we are all watching and waiting for events to happen but when someone isn’t feeling good we all drop everything to try to help that one? I think it is good…..above all these, love one another!
      And….is it just my paranoia about cyber spying or is there a reason that my spam folder suddenly got filled with herbal remedy ads this morning?????? Hmmm…..

  3. What I’ve found that works great is oil of oregano and olive leaf extract. We are home remedy folks, God gave us all these good plants for a reason! Get better soon!

    • And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

      And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein [there is] life, [I have given] every green herb for meat: and it was so.

      And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good.

      Gen. 1:29-31

  4. Take plenty of vitamin c several times a day in high doses (like 500 mg) to build up quickly. Don’t forget the tea with lime because lime is an anti oxident and tea stimulates you to keep going.

    Take warm to hot showers to keep you body temp under control. Spirulina is very good with chlorella (I take green Bolthouse because it carries minerals which includes spirulina and chlorella and since it’s a liquid it will keep you hydrated and staves off hunger).

    Eucalyptus with lemon in cough drops is good because the eucalyptus helps to keep the passages open and the lemon is another anti oxident.

    Above all, don’t forget to anoint yourself with anointing oil. It will bolster your faith and It helps because anointing oil is prayed over which carries prayers for healing:

    *And they cast out many demons, and anointed with oil many who were sick, and healed them. (Mark 6:13)

    *who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed. (1 Peter 2:24)

    “Father God in the name of your Son, Jesus Christ, I call LA Marzulli well, whole, strong and I rebuke the spirit of infirmity–for by the stripes of Jesus, LA is healed. I lay claim to your mighty healing power instantly!” “Thank you Jesus for taking all of our infirmities to the cross and for your life over us.!”


  5. LA et al. and I will have to agree to disagree. First strike is murder. I don’t believe that earthly Israel gains anything with the Lord Jesus Christ by initiating a war. Moreso, I believe they stoop to the level of the enemy.

    Iran is full of hot air and bluff. Sanctions against Iran are similar, just more hot air and bluff, as evidenced with decades of status quo with Cuba. This is a poker game and largely political.

    Easy to prove. Let’s say Iran has 10 nukes including EMPs. What do they do? Martyr the whole country.

    So what. They go straight to hell. Whoever they nuke or victimize would have judgment against them in the courts of Heaven. That’s not to say they’d be saved or avoid the Lake of Fire — just that justice will prevail. Iran’s martydom lands them in hell. Their victims — regarding the saved that embrace Messiah — go straight to Heaven — AND RETURN WITH HIM. Alleluyah!

    The question is: Do you agree with Christ? Who does the will of the Father to bring lovingkindness, righteous, peace, and joy to the just and the unjust.

    Don’t play the fear game.

    • “LA et al. and I will have to agree to disagree. First strike is murder.”

      All war is. But what choice do they have? Honestly?

      “I don’t believe that earthly Israel gains anything with the Lord Jesus Christ by initiating a war.”

      Can’t disagree with this. It’s an unknown.

      “Moreso, I believe they stoop to the level of the enemy. ”


      “Easy to prove.”

      How? What you followed this up with wasn’t proof of anything at all.

      “Let’s say Iran has 10 nukes including EMPs. What do they do? Martyr the whole country. ”

      No. They use them on someone else, namely Israel, the country they’ve threatened with annihilation for the last several years.

      “So what. They go straight to hell.”

      So you’re against murder and yet so what to something this dreadful? How’s this work?

      What about all the innocent victims they’d use this stuff on? Shoot, plenty of the Iranian citizens are innocent people as well for that matter. Saved and unsaved people alike.

      No one WANTS any of this except the religious zealots in charge of Iran. It’s not rational. It’s Satanic. And they mean what they say. Their religious beliefs say: Bring on the chaos to usher in the Twelfth Iman. They mean it. They’re serious.

      So you’re against sanctions and against a pre-emptive strike. What’s left? Sit there and wait like an idiot? I don’t think so.

      “Whoever they nuke or victimize would have judgment against them in the courts of Heaven. ”

      Yes, but again, it’s insanity to simply sit there and wait for it to happen when it can be stopped.

      You’re making much of a case here at all.

      “That’s not to say they’d be saved or avoid the Lake of Fire — just that justice will prevail.”

      What justice?

      “Iran’s martydom lands them in hell. Their victims — regarding the saved that embrace Messiah — go straight to Heaven — AND RETURN WITH HIM. Alleluyah!”

      Meanwhile the hell with everyone else. That’s basically what you’re saying. There’s a lot of innocent unsaved people you’re talking about here who, if they don’t get wiped out…maybe a number of them get saved some day. We don’t know.

      I say prevent this nightmare from happening. A lot of innocent lives get saved by a pre-emptive strike.

      It really does remind of 1938 in a lot of ways. Too bad no one preemptively struck Hitler and put a stop to him, too.

      Yes, that would have been murder. And it would have saved MANY innocent lives.

      Same thing again here.

    • I had a comment last week that got lost in the shuffle. I am copying and pasting here cuz its relevant to the article and this comment. It was originally addressed to Mysticmentor.
      Mysticmentor, God himself would co-sign? We must be careful what we believe God would or wouldn’t do. As a human and lover of people, I support Israel defending her borders and eliminating threats, but as a follower of the scriptures the concept of pre-emptive strikes make me nervous.

      God doesn’t work that way or at least He never did. God says trust in Him and He will show you the way. King David counted his army putting faith in his ability over God’s and displeased him. God told a young scrawny kid David to go out and slay a giant with sling. God widdled Gideon’s army down and sent him into battle. God instructed how to take down Jericho without a single shot fired.

      You say God won’t be mocked? I say God won’t co-sign any event that the entire world wouldn’t acknowledge that GOD was the victor and the reason for the outcome. There is no acknowledgement of God with a bunker buster.

      Do I think Israel should just sit idly by and do nothing? No, they should pray like there is no tomorrow. Is that suicide for the Israelis? Only if you believe trusting in God is suicide. Does it make nervous? You bet it does. My human side says blast Iran back to the stone age.

    • I don’t know; there are more than a few instances in the Bible where Israel struck first with God’s blessing and assistance. If God knew any of these enemies of Israel were planning to do something that would destroy the land of Israel (i.e. attack Israel with chemical or nuclear weapons) perhaps he is leading Israel into a “first strike” to prevent this. I can’t imagine that God would allow the total destruction of Israel or for her to become uninhabitable, which is what would happen if a nuclear bomb were directed there. I just try to have faith that everything will play out according to God’s plan. 🙂

    • Jerusalem/Israel will NEVER be a pile of rubble again… EVER. Prophecy is/will be fullfilled JUST LIKE IT’S WRITTEN… Please remember also that the Hebrew nation of Israel are still under the divine direction of the God of the Old Testament as far as they are concerned… That would be the same God who dispatched ONE Angel for ONE little nights work… exit 185,000 Assyrians…

    • Eric wrote: “A lot of innocent lives get saved by a pre-emptive strike.”

      “Saved” from what? Is this what Jesus means by salvation? Would you forego salvation through Jesus, so that can live for a few more years?

    • “I can’t imagine that God would allow the total destruction of Israel or for her to become uninhabitable, which is what would happen if a nuclear bomb were directed there. ”

      The Bible GUARANTEES this absolutely cannot and will not happen. 🙂

      I just try to have faith that everything will play out according to God’s plan. 🙂 ”

      Indeed it will. We just make it harder than it needs to be a lot of times. 😉

    • Hopeful Watcher wrote:

      “Saved” from what?”

      A nuclear attack from Iran?

      ” Is this what Jesus means by salvation? Would you forego salvation through Jesus, so that can live for a few more years?”

      How do people get saved if they’re dead from a nuclear attack?

    • Phoebe, your point is well taken, which is why I don’t agree 100% with Nomemoleste either.

      Priority number one is submission to YHWH and prayer is required. I am in no position to know if the leaders of Israel have done this.

    • “Priority number one is submission to YHWH and prayer is required. I am in no position to know if the leaders of Israel have done this.”

      We can ALL agree on this. 🙂

    • “Hopeful Watcher wrote:

      Are their any Iranians who beyond salvation?” Not sure I understand the question. No one is. Every person can be saved but they have to be alive for it to happen. 😉

      If you’re alive you can be saved. If you’re dead you can’t be.

    • nomoleste, totally agree with you. Yeshua taught us to love our enemies, not to blow them up with pre-emptive strikes because we fear them.

      Although I am open to the idea that the modern state of Israel COULD be a fullfillment of Isiah 66:8, I don’t believe so, I believe satan who knows prophecy better than we do, is pulling off the greatest deception ever devised. Satan will mimic all of the major end-time prophecies to deceive “even the very elect” if it were possible. If you study how the modern nation of Israel came about, it was totally through Freemasonic, Luciferian manipulation of politics. (Balfour Declaration, League of Nations, etc)

      Besides, whenever did Yahweh restore His people to the land He had given them unless they had repented and acknoledged Him in all their ways? How do we know that the people who were “restored to Israel” in 1948 are actual DNA decendents of Abraham? The answer is we don’t…we assume they are but have no evedence other than what we are told.

      The eye test says they are Freemasonic imposters, called the Synagoge of Satan by Yeshua and those who “calls themselves Jews but are not” by Yeshua himself. If the Ashkenazi, Talmudic Jews living In Israel are not the the Synagoge of Satan Yeshua was referring to or “those who say they are Jews but are not” . then WHO was Yeshua referring to?

      The point of Satan pulling this deception off (and it seems to be working as the majority of Evangelical Christians totally back Israel in whatever they do) will be to pull off a totally false set of end times events (using HAARP, and all of Satan’s chess pieces which is all of the world leaders and media leaders) first, which will result in an obvious “AntiChrist” figure ( the fake one)who will then be disposed by the real AntiChrist who will be worshipped as Christ by the world.

      There is a lot more evidence to this that I dont have time to go into but that is what I believe is taking place.

      A critical point in all of this is to be very careful who you support when it involves killing and war, remember …

      Luke 9:51-55 51 When the days were approaching for His [ad]ascension, He [ae]was determined to go to Jerusalem; 52 and He sent messengers on ahead of Him, and they went and entered a village of the Samaritans to [af]make arrangements for Him. 53 But they did not receive Him, because [ag]He was traveling toward Jerusalem. 54 When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?” 55 But He turned and rebuked them, [[ah]and said, “You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; 56 for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.”] And they went on to another village.

      more to follow…

    • Mongoose – I totally in every way possible disagree with your post. You are also spreading the Synagogue of Satan lie that I have addressed here before. God does not make mistakes. Those who are gathered are the descendants of Abraham. Israel is back in the land. The scripture you are referring to is taken completely out of context and is used to spread Anti semitism, which I will not tolerate on this BLOG. This referrence is for the 1st century Christians not applicable for today!

    • There’s no call for earthly Israel to join the enemy to defeat them. (as if such thing could be) Or to adopt their murderous ways of the damned. Those that aren’t sure what First Strike is need to look it up. And read the 10 Commandments. “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_strike”

      If Israelis initiate WWIII — how many die world wide? Including in Iran. That’s LA’s premise — WWIII.
      Whoever initiates First Strike are murderers.

      Y’shua (Jesus) said:
      – love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that despitefully use you
      – and through the Holy Ghost, “overcome evil with good”

      He would have cleared out the promised land with insects… If they want to do things there own way, or the enemies way, they’re going to reap the same results. Such as with sanctions against Cuba. Live by nukes, die by nukes. Nothing makes that any better.

      But there are plenty (infinities) of options the Almighty can provide. He’s got vastly more angels and armies as is evidenced in the Revelation (and the rest of the Bible, and history) to deal with the enemy including Iran. What matters is whether or not Israelis turn to God, and I’d certainly say through Christ.

      Even the damned are going to have justice done in the courts of Heaven. There is ultimate justice. Even for the damned.

      Revelation 20
      12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

      Matthew 10
      42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

    • …a good question would be, if the modern day state of Israel is not the fullfillment if Isaiah 66:8, then when will it take place? I believe Isaiah 66:8 refers to when Yeshua returns for the Millenium reign…

      I could be wrong on this but as LA says, we have to consider other ideas/truths as things play out, just be aware of the possibilty that the modern day state of Israel may not be who you think they are and to support them when they do things that are against Yeshua’s teachings is putting men before God.

      For example, most modern day Evangelicals support a pre-emptive strike on Israel’s enemies even with nukes if need be, does that relate at all to Yeahua’s command to Love our enemies, bless them and do not persecute them?

      Be careful what spirit you are from my friends

    • The Jews gathered in Europe were led like sheep to slaughter and over 6 million of them died. I have spoken to those who were in the camps. I have written about it in all my books. There is a Luciferian agenda and it is being played out now. Israel is being targeted.

    • “Priority number one is submission to YHWH and prayer is required. I am in no position to know if the leaders of Israel have done this.”

      ABSOLUTELY right on, Hopeful-Watcher and Eric. If Israel’s leaders first seek YHWH in prayer over this, they will know whether to watch and wait … or whether, and when, to do some kind of (and what kind of) pre-emptive strike. Otherwise the debate could go on forever.

      In the Old Testament, God would at specific times have Israel go into battle. Maybe that could still be the case as Israel plays out its end-times destiny, since its leaders are not born-again. Just my 2 cents.

    • Linda – I agree. We know that the Father sent Israel out into battle. What was Jericho? Let’s clear the air and make it simple. If somebody is threatening to kill you and your family and you have every reason to believe the threat is credible and you do nothing, shame on you! The blood of the innocent is on your head. Iran has sworn to annihilate Israel. I don’t take this lightly nor does Netanyahu.

    • Eric: “If you’re alive you can be saved. If you’re dead you can’t be.”

      This applies to Iranians as well after a first strike.

      Richard: ” So how do you explain Jeremiah 49?”

      Is there any evidence this destruction is part of a first strike or perhaps its after God hands Israel over to the Assryian. How do you explain Isaiah 10:12? Israel angered God and He gives them over to their enemies and then saves the remenant.

    • LA, as I mentioned, I am open to the fact that the modern day state of Israel is the fullfillment of Isaiah 66:8, I am not 100% convinced and am open to fact that it may be a Luciferian project and deception….in no way do I support any violence or discrimination against the Israelis, whoever they are. In the same way, I don’t support any type of violence or discrimination against Israeli neighbors because it.goes against what Yeshua taught us.

      We will know all.things soon

    • OK – But to say, whoever they are, is insulting those who were gathered back into the land, in my oinion. If they’re not the remnant than who is there, and a greater dilemma than this, is that God has made a mistake! This is the essence of prophecy in my opinion and without coming to an understanding of it we can’t possibly come to terms with what is going on. The events that are plastered all over every news outlet are leading up to the time of Jacob’s Trouble, not Bob, Fred, or Earnie’s. L.A.

    • Folks, there’s something getting lost in this mix here. I certainly think we all agree: NO ONE wants war, people to die, etc. etc.

      For some reason when talking about Israeli pre-emptive strike concepts, some people seem to have this blown way up to something epic.

      What I’m hoping/thinking is: If they have to do it, it would be something fast, surgical, from the air, you take the site(s) out and everyone wakes up the next morning and the planes are gone and it’s all over.

      I’m thinking something like this: “http://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/826/the-attack-on-syrias-al-kibar-nuclear-facility”

      This was so embarassing to the Syrians that it trickled out in the news a bit after the fact. Minimal to no casualties, quiet, neat, and clean.

      Maybe I’m being way too optimistic about it but THIS is the kind of pre-emptive strike that I’m hoping they can get away with IF they have to do it.

      We all agree: PRAY. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. That covers a LOT of territory if you really think it through. 🙂

    • Jesus died on the cross, rose from the dead and went to heaven, knowing full well that His disciples would be martyred after He left. Is the blood of the innocence on Jesus’s head? I think not. Which is more tragic, that millions of Jews died in Germany or that they were possibly cut short before they knew Jesus?

    • Hi Kingmongoose — Thank God, when all is said and done, we Christians don’t ultimately have a say as to what Israel should or should not do on this matter. We are now witnessing an approach of end-times scenarios of what Israel will need to work out, i.e., their unfinished business with God under the Old Testament.

    • I am sure there are a lot of Israelis who very well may be physically descended from Abraham living today in Israel, however, we don’t really know for sure, only God knows to be honest. These I would consider the “innocent” mom and pop Jews just trying to make a living, raise their families in peace.

      There is evidence that all of the leaders have been freemasons even since 1948, these are either freemasons, agnostics, Talmudic Jews, etc. Nobody I want to support…

      We know Satan counterfeits or tries to, everything God has done and is goinggto do, why is so hard to believe that Satan wouldn’t try and counterfeit the true restoration off Yahwehs people? By doing so, he could then pull of the ultimate deception, being worshipped in place of the true Most High.

      And because Satan is the god of this world, he controls the world leaders, media etc easliy making possible ” the declaration of Israel in one day by the League of Nations” in 1948.” It is so far a stretch? I don’t think so….

    • NoMe, friend, you have stumbled into the pacifist fallacy. Christian individuals are to turn the other cheek. Authorities, as LA pointed out, are there to defend and to execute justice. No wise rulers sit idly by while enemies plot the massacre of their people. Romans 13 says of rulers, “For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.”

    • Just my thoughts on the matter; I do not think that there will be any attack as long as the Muslim brotherhood is under the control of masonic illuminati… on the other hand The illuminati may also use Israel to remove the remaining obsticle in order to forward their socialist democratic new world order..

      As far as the synagog of satan goes, it has nothing to do with the nation as such, but it has everything to do with Tamuldic worship!

      john b

    • In the end folks, it is all going to be about worship!
      There will be a remnant of Jews and gentiles worshipping the true God of Israel in Spirit and in Truth by the anointing of His Spirit made possible by the “gospel of Jesus Christ” and there will be the worship of Lucifer and his beastly Image by the rest who love not the Truth….

      The real war and whose side you are on will be determined by whom you worship!

      john B

    • WOW !!!!!!!


      I am SOOOOOO glad you spoke up !!! Hope you feel better BTW!!


      Seems like there are still “a number of people” ….


      amazing the LACK of Knowledge represented in this last number of posts!!!

      BUT…it is posts like those “by some weasel” …

      that REVEAL WHY we NEED better teaching IN THE CHURCH !!!!

      Quite Amazing!!!

      [And you wonder why MY posts can sometimes be long…ok,…mostly.]

      I will control it better….. 😉

    • Ohhhh yaaa…..

      I guess the DISCIPLES of JESUS carried a sword so that they

      could butter their toast !!


    • And Jesus is the one who told them to go buy the swords!!! although I’m not sure how only 2 swords were considered; “enough.” Musta been a couple of Ninja Disciples in the group… I’m thinking Philip and Peter maybe…

    • The BEST defence is an OFFENSE always!!! in any circumstance involving violence!!! This is an age old truth that is NEVER lost on any that know history… all the way back to “The Art of War” publication from ancient China.

    • The Lord is a man of war!

      Exodus 15:3
      2 The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father’s God, and I will exalt him.

      3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.

      Exodus 17:16
      16 For he said, Because the Lord hath sworn that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.

      Ecc 3;1,2,3,8
      1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
      2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
      3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

      8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of War, and a time of peace.

      I don’t know much about this subject, but I do know that the Lord is a man of war. We just have to look in the Book of Rev. to see that. But there are certain times of war that are ordained by God too and I really don’t think that any of us can say we have Him completely figured out, even though we have access to scriptures, there are some things He has kept for Himself, and for good reason, too..

      The Sermon on the Mount is to believers. They are the only ones on this earth capible of expressing the love of God and fulfilling the law which is written in our hearts. Something He promises to one day do for the Jews also.

      What I’ve noticed is there are so many conspiracy theories out there, that no one is clean anymore. I think they are saying now that Billy Graham is also a free mason. After a while it sounds ridiculous, at least to me anyway. You all may be different. But one thing I do know is that I love the Jewish people. Something happens when we are saved and we receive Gods heart. With that heart comes a love for the Jewish people. They don’t have to do anything to earn that love, its just there because we know that God loves them and so we love them too.It just happens when we are saved. It always bothers me when I hear Christians accusing the Jews of the same things the world does. calling them war mongers which they are not. They just want to be left alone to live in
      peace.I’ll always love the Jewish people and because of that love, I will always give them the benefit of the doubt.

    • Swords are both for defense as well as offense. I know no scripture that reads or implies the best defense is a good offense.

      To “live by the sword” implies you use the sword as a way of life, in other words to affect change by the offensive use of it. To use a sword defensively means it stays sheathed until someone else bares their sword.

      Iran is saber rattling, provoking and yes developing deadly offensive weapons. Israel has a great missle defense system and the power of God. As Jesus told His disciples, this is enough.

      I ask again, is faith in the Lord a suicide pact? It is not. Now if God has instructed Israel to attack Iran, then I say bombs away. But none of us know that, so we shouldn’t pretend like we do.

    • Moreover, Jesus scolded Peter for using his sword in an offensive manner, when he cut off the ear of the guard. Might we say this was a pre-emptive strike by Peter to protect the messiah?

    • Last point and I’ll shut up. God is GOD!! Look at the plagues He sent against pharoah. Do we imply that God is impotent to protect His beloved Israel from harm. He could send an earthquake that would crack Iran in half.

      God wants from Israel what He wants from all of us. For us to lean on Him, depend on Him and love Him.

    • TGBTG….

      TRULY AWESOME POST !!! Took the letters right off my keyboard !!!

      Gotta Love that verse in Exodus 15:3 !!!

      Exodus 15:6….is another verse I remind The Lord of ALL THE TIME !!!

      6“Your right hand, O LORD, is majestic in power,
      Your right hand, O LORD, shatters the enemy.

      Psalm 45:3-5….Is Awesome!!!

      3Gird Your sword on Your thigh, O Mighty One,
      In Your splendor and Your majesty!

      4And in Your majesty ride on victoriously,
      For the cause of truth and meekness and righteousness;
      Let Your right hand teach You awesome things.

      5Your arrows are sharp;
      The peoples fall under You;
      Your arrows are in the heart of the King’s enemies.

      Here is a GREAT VERSE to quote ALWAYS !!!

      Jeremiah 20: 11

      11But the LORD is with me like a dread champion;
      Therefore my persecutors will stumble and not prevail.
      They will be utterly ashamed, because they have failed,
      With an everlasting disgrace that will not be forgotten.

      JESUS IS LORD !!!

      Kirk 😉

      ps…THANKS for your encouraging post ….I am open …just need an opening!!

    • Out of my comfort zone four sure, but….

      I think their is a vast difference between a sword in the hand of the church and a sword in the hand of the armies of Israel, when they have a mandate from God to protect their land. God is Very, concerned with peoples keeping the lands and the boundaries He has given to them. I think He counts it a righteous thing when they fight for the land He has before ordained would be theres.And He has appointed boundaries and woe to that nation who upsets what God has before ordained.He even warned the apple of His eye, Israel, not to meddle with land that He had given to others.I have learned through scriptures that our God takes these things extremely seriously, I think, more than we can understand right now.

      Deut 2:4 And command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore:

      5 Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.

      8 And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Eziongaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab.

      9 And the Lord said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession.

      18 Thou art to pass over through Ar, the coast of Moab, this day:

      19 And when thou comest nigh over against the children of Ammon, distress them not, nor meddle with them: for I will not give thee of the land of the children of Ammon any possession; because I have given it unto the children of Lot for a possession”.

      God is just as concerned with other nations keeping their own land as He is for the welfare of Israel.

      However a sword in the hand of the church is a different story. We are counted as sheep for the slaughter. All who take the sword shall die by the sword, this is the faith and patience of the saints. We’re different.We are the saints, the church. Its different. We are counted as sheep to the slaughter. The just shall live by their faith, but right now Israel must use his sword if provoked.

      @Kirk, God will provide you the opening, I’m praying for you.

    • TGBTG, very well said… You know, I lived in East Texas, (Lindale, the “Christian Mecca” with Agape Force, YWAM, David Wilkerson, Leonard Ravenhill, and I was at Last Days Ministries, Keith Green.) for over 10 years… and it was pretty much a given that we ALL supported the Govt., Military, Self-Defence… “God, Guns, and Glory.” But, I always struggled with the Lords command to NOT FIGHT BACK… I had a young wife and small children… and WHAT would I do if somebody came into our home and threatened them??? Well, in those days I had several guns in our home, (I was/am a hunter.) and I was always ready to use one or more if necessary to defend my family… Many years since now, and I have only recently come to terms with all of this… We have a plan now, IF ANYTHING like a home invasion were to occur, my family would IMMEDIATELY begin to exit through whatever was handy, backdoor, window, whatever. AND, I would oppose the intruder/s… not with a gun, with my life, and after rebuking them in the name of Jesus and commanding that they STOP!!! I would inform them that although I will not attack them, they will have to kill me to get to my family… at this point I would turn and follow my family out into the night trusting that just like Jesus; “Passed through them without harm because it was not yet His time…” Myself and my family will/would do the same… If however it were our time… I could only hope to stand as strong as the heros of Foxes Book of Martyrs, or the Annabaptists, Moravians, etc…
      I REALLY hope that this reaches some of y’all out there… I do want to confirm that Govt.’s are morally bound to protect… but at this point in my life, if I were called to service… I would HAVE to be a “Conscientious Objector.”

    • Is it land and boundaries that define israel or a people committed to God? There was a time the only boundary afforded to Israel were tents, poles and an ark. Yes the Lord brought them to the land of milk and provided safe haven there, but he also gave them over to Nebuchadnezzar and also the Assryian. God was constantly correcting Israel in the book of Kings. Is today any different that He wants Israel to lean on Him and allow His supernatural protection to win out? Why are we so willing to embrace the supernatural with the Holy Spirit but leave no room for it in real world events and assume Israel is defenseless unless they embrace the way of the sword?

    • Would to God Israel would lean on God the way they should and there are many devout men there thatare doing just that and being directed by God and arefervantly praying. God is well able to protect Israel supernaturally, but He doesn’t always do that. There was no earthquake to prevent the holocost.It just happened. Why? I don’t know, but if they have found a way to prevent it from happening again shouldn’t they take it? If they want to live, and to protect the land that God gave to them and also their own lives? They don’t have the faith that the church has. They don’t have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them and as such should never be held up to the same standard.

    • How would you like to be on the wrong side of this prophecy:

      Revelation 11
      18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

      There is no first strike doctrine from the Lord of Hosts, (Christ as Captain of the armies).

      By “first strike” I mean nukes — including EMPs. That would clearly ignite WWIII.

      If “first strike” (nuclear) were acceptable — then at the Cross Christ would have called down the equivalent in legions of angels to destroy the world, and started over.

      There is a clear duty of vengeance — given to the authorities. Christ remains in charge of them. And when authorities do wickedly, their doom is the most dreadful. To the merciless, God shows no mercy.

      James 2
      13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

      Jeremiah 17
      5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man,
      and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD….
      7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.

      If any nation (group of people) know about Curses and Blessings it’s Israel across the ages. It’s wise not to curse yourself.

      True Israel (the remnant saved out of all generations) — including Jacob himself (re: “Jacob’s Trouble” — dwells with Christ in Heaven even now. The generation of Israelis on earth now, whether in the promised land or elsewhere, have no special claim to receive the promises of God — at the expense of that greater assembly of saints (out of all generations — “True Israel”) already in Heaven. The promise is to Christ foremost and to those who have already passed on — such as Joseph, Moses, Joshua, David, and so on. God is not the god of the dead, but of the living.

      The remnant of Jews and Israelis that come out of this generation who pass on before the great tribulation have no special claim apart from the greater assembly in Heaven. The remnant (saved) of the Jews and Israelis that come out great tribulation — especially those martyred (much as the two witnesses) — will rule and reign with Christ in the millennial kingdom.

      Lastly, and this is my closing comment on the topic here, because indeed the Lord, Yeshua Messiah (Jesus Christ) has the holy right of revenger of blood. Exactly how He will use earthly Israel in that will far eclipse “shock and awe.” He wields them.

      Isaiah 41 (tells how God will use Israeli against the nations)
      14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel;
      I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.
      15 Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth:
      thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small, and shalt make the hills as chaff.
      16 Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away,
      and the whirlwind shall scatter them:
      and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel.

      You are blessings beloved. Iron sharpens iron. It’s better to reconcile, but we at least should keep the peace if we must disagree.

    • Mystic,
      When I think about these things, yes I believe in prayer and that God will protect us, but if the person keeps coming even when I’m rebuking him, in Jesus name, Then I always thought that it would be OK if I shot him in the foot or the leg. You know, just enough to stop him, but not kill him.
      I’m just talking because I’ve never handled a gun, but to me, that wouldn’t be wrong to do. Of course we all have to be fully convinced in our own minds.But for me, I see nothing wrong with doing that, and it can stop them enough to call the police.

      Also if I’ve disagreed with any of y’all out there, please don’t take it personally. I’m just disagreeing thats all, and I can see and understand everyones love and mercy towards people. As for me, my heart will always be with the Jew first. Its just the way I am since I’ve been saved. There is a love in my heart for them, that wasn’t there before, so it can’t be mine, but the Lord is loving them through me, is the only way I can explain it.

    • Wow, you actually got me to LOL… sorry, I’m just picturing the look on your “intruders” face when ya shoot ’em in the leg… then he keeps comin’ so you shoot him in the other leg… Hey, Everybody has to fight this particular battle inside themselves… I’m thinkin’ that a bullet in the leg might be OK if ya let him slap you on both cheeks first… sorry, it’s late here, i’m gettin’ goofy… 😉

    • I posted this comment on another part of this thread, but I thought it might fit here too.

      Sometimes I can’t understand why other believers can’t see our spiritual
      connection to the Jews. We are their debtors and since we have been made partakers of their spiritual things the Spirit of God says that its our Duty to minister back to them at least with our carnal things. Its our duty, He says. And if in earthly things, doesn’t that include our support and goodwill and confidence towards them that they would never intentionally harm someone without good reason and only in their own defence?Their lives are in constant danger because of their enemies, who are filled with hate towards them. As christians who understand spiritual things, have we become so identified with the world, that we are unable to see that? Even if the rest of the world, just doesn’t get it, we should understand whats going on.

      We Gentiles, because thats what we all are, were grafted into a Holy Jewish root. We are debtors to them. We weren’t grafted into thin air, but into a holyJewish root who came before us, beloved by God. And they arealso affectionately beloved by us and in our hearts. How can we separate ourselves from caring about them? There is a connection between Christians and Jews , a connection that we don’t share with any other people.God chose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the first fruits and they were holy in Gods eyes. The original holy root to which we were grafted in.

      Now they are in trouble. Israel is distressed and fearful for his life,the enemy is threatening and quickly trying to cut him off, should we not support them?Isn’t that the least we can do? Shouldn’t we separate ourselves from the world’s view of Israel who don’t understand these things?Shouldn’t we stand by the root who remember is holding us up, in whom we have be grafted into?We owe them our support. We owe them much more than that. We are their debtors, we should never forget that. My heart will always be with the people of Israel

  6. Islamic militants warn Egypt army on Sinai raids

    CAIRO (AP) — A statement by Islamic militants in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula warned the military against waging a security crackdown and manhunt of jihadis, asserting that they have not targeted Egyptians soldiers.

    [Yeah — tell that to the families of the 16 Egyptian soldiers the terrorists blew up at the border on their way to that real brief attempt to bomb Israel]

    Wednesday’s statement posted on a website which usually carries al-Qaida and similar groups’ statements said the jihadis’ primary target is Israel. It denied responsibility for the killing of soldiers two weeks ago and urged the army to “prevent bloodshed.”

    Islamic militants are believed to be behind the worst assault on troops from within Egypt in living memory when the 16 soldiers were gunned down while breaking their fast during the holy month of Ramadan on August 5.

    The attacks prompted the military to launch an offensive in the increasingly volatile peninsula. Most operations there however remain limited and objectives are unclear.

    • I posted this a few days again and I’d like to say it again. I believe Morsi in cahoots with Iran intentionally let a few of the Egyptian soldiers die just so he could put his tanks in place with Israel’s permission. He doesn’t even like the military as at the time I initially posted this thought, it was run by non-Muslim brotherhood guys. Now I think they are in charge. So he kills two birds. 1) Egyptian soldiers die so Morsi fires some non-MB generals and allows MB thugs to take their place and 2) he is now positioned in front of Israel! The militants may be telling the truth to the Egyptian Army like Keanu Reeves in Speed, “I’m not here for you man.” Rather…Morsi is quickly becoming the King of the South with his MB guys !!!

  7. Hi, Guys,

    Dutchsinse has outdone himself with this one and I must post it. What does a massive sinkhole in Louisiana teach us about the importance of salt domes, liquid butane, radioactive debris, our strategic oil reserve, the increase in N.A. earthquakes, deep earth injection wells/drilling operations, the awakening of extinct volcanoes, the new fault line that has opened in Ft. Stockton, TX, and the mysterious booms and rumbles around the Great Lakes?

    The North American craton is under extreme stress. It is the tectonic plate on which we sit.

    • Hi, Eric, I’m fine. Thanks!

      I am frustrated by not being able to post this video – it may be youtube. They’ve messed with Dutchsinse’s stuff before.

      Go to his website:

      And watch his piece on the Louisiana sinkhole. It is well worth the 15 minutes.

    • Todays a good day, everybody!
      Rose is back commenting and now if we canjust get a good report from Kent that his eye operation went well, it’ll be even better! And if LA somehow gets rid of this cold (by the way I had one too-no picnic) it will REALLY be a great day. All in all, all I can say is bless the Lord, today is a great day!

      @Note to Kirk,
      I think besides tons of zeal for the Lord and a love of scripture, that you have the gift of teaching. You need to find some sort of outlet to turn that loose.Maybe start your own blog so that you can reach many others, and bless them with all of your study. You are a blessing Kirk, be blessed yourself.


    • Yes, welcome back Rose! As Elaine posted regarding TGBTG’s comments on everything “like” button …click. God bless all of you!

    • OK Miss Elaine, I have never clicked the “like” button before, and I’m not really sure how to do it but here goes!

      OK, where is it?? ha

    • OK, I found it, (didn’t realise that was actually a button) but you have to sign up to wordpress. So, not today. But today is STILL a good day you guys!.We have so much to be grateful for, so much to be thankful for. So lets keep it that way! A good day.
      I don’t know why, I’m just overcome by the joy of the Lord today. God is so good to us, Hes just Wonderful.

    • YEP!

      I agree. Any day you can hold a knife and fork in your hands with food
      on your plate, water out of a faucet, sleep in a bed you call your own,
      and have a friend to share with ….

      YEP….I’d say THAT is a good day!!!

      But having a day WITH JESUS as my older brother….


      Kirk 😉

  8. I think that we all may be missing the point… Netanyahu is NOT a Christian, NOBODY in Israels govt. is a Christian… In fact Netanyahu is a 32 or 33rd degree Mason, (that’s why he and Mitt are old friends.) So preaching to the choir about how Jesus changed EVERYTHING at the cross, the New Covenant, the Beattitudes, etc… is kinda pointless as we are dealing with stone cold Luciferians who are deluded to their very cores… (if they even have “cores” anymore.) They are gonna do whatever it is they have been planning to do for a LONG-LONG time… no offense, just my opinion. Peace.

    • No offense taken, mystic if you were referring to me. However, I don’t agree that pointing out the beatitudes and reminding people what Yeshua taught is ever “pointless”…I need to be reminded everyday to love my enemies because my flesh wants to retaliate

      I will reiterate my key point in bringing this up, if you support any kind if military action against another nation or people, you are going 180 degrees against what Yeshua taught …not my words…His! Love your enemies, bless and do not persecute them.

      This is the New Covenant Better Way Yeshua came to show us, yes in the old Testement, God instructed the Israelis to war against the pagan and Nephilim remnants …ONLY when the Israelis were being faithful and walking.with Him.

      Whether you believe the modern state of Israel is the fullfillment of prophecy, I think we all can agree that they are not walking with Him and acknowledging Him in all their ways right now and God never blessed them in battle in that state.

      I believe after Yeshua was resurrected, from this point forward, all righteous battles and judgement will be His and His alone, not even a pre-emptive strike by Israel is from the Lord’s directive in my opinion.

      All I am trying to do is make those Christians who seem to be war hawks, take pause and consider what they are supporting..

      Grace and Peace

    • Mongoose – You said, God never blessed them in that state. Israel has been attacked many times. I sat in a synagogue recently and heard an incredible story that I will share tomorrow night on Acceleration Radio.

    • Mongoose, speaker for the Mongeese [ mongooses]. What about WW2 ? Fighting against the Nazis and Imperial Japan. Those guys were freaking evil my furry blogger. What about protecting our families from violence? Prayer but no action? Ever seen what a mongoose does to a snake which crosses it’s path. Immediate First Strike, man! and no questions asked later.

  9. WOW ~ That Lake Peigneur vid was incredible as well as very sobering and informative esp.in light of dutch’s information on what is happening currently.

  10. I have been crying out to the Lord lately because I am so tired of being in a state of constant anticipation and alert… I know that we are commanded to “Watch,” but I have become something of a “freak” to most of my well intentioned in-laws and home church… They DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THIS STUFF!!! Even my wife, who at 43 years of age is working on her Masters in social work… She doesn’t want to hear about end times! We’ve got 4 kids, 14, 12,9, and 6… she absolutely CANNOT believe that our babies won’t grow up and have babies of their own… So, I’ve been telling God, (well, actually yelling a bit) that I have to know… PERIOD! God keeps taking me to Jeremiah 19… but instead of Topheth and Jerusalem, I’m getting NY city and America… We haven’t settled this yet He and I, but my stocking up of provisions will continue as this DEFINITELY appears to be the wise thing to do, Jer. 19 ain’t a pretty sight…

    • Hey Mystic! I understand how you feel. I was trying to talk to my grand children about end times last year and the youngest one asked why Jesus would have the millennium for 1000 years and not just take us all straight to heaven. I truly believe that the Holy Spirit took over my mouth then…..I told him that it was probably to give kids a chance to do all the things that they are looking forward to, like graduating and having a girlfriend and going to college and …..right up to having grand children because God would not want them to have to spend eternity in paradise but be wondering about the earthly things they missed. The 1000 years gives us time to have a perfect world and perfect government with Jesus as King.

    • Mystic… Same boat here brother. Four kids, about identical in age as yours, and a family that believes I am dense and frankly unbalanced to believe we are living in the last age before Christ’s return.

      It is painful at times.

    • This is for all who are awake while those around them sleep! It is very hard to SEE whats comming when nobody else wants too! And frankly that is the problem. People dont want to see it! Not one little bit. They either love this world or are to wrapped up in the cares of this world or sre frightened beyond belief. Jesus even warned us about that. And Paul too warned us (ally translation) “don’t be out there getting drunk and carousing, paying attention to all the things the world thinks is cool”
      We wont evem remember this world and our lives shortly.
      I am not the best Christian 😦
      I still cuss, my eyes wander when a good looking man walks by (just for a second,lol) I get angry when I see injustice, my temper is short sometimes etc.
      I am only clean through the blood of Christ!!!!!
      I ask all the time for God to help me be whst he wants!
      But I know beyond all doubt, 100% that we are on the verge, the edge, the precipice of the cliff and the esrth is crumbling underneath of us! Jesus is coming! Soon!
      Why wouldn’t you be excited, looking everywhere, anxious for our bridegroom? Nervous, curious, anticipating, IMPATIENT even? We are getting married!
      And its a huge wedding with famous important people!
      Don’t fret! Its hard, I know! But at least we have each other here and LA. And thete sre even more of us, probably millions actually who know!
      Jesus is happy SOMEBODY is looking for his appearing! He did give his life for us after all!!
      Its ok, truly its going to get really weird on this planet soon! Trust me on this one. I’m expecting God to show himself in a big way soon. A big big way! In Israel and the whole world is gonna go “whoa”, the newscasters mouths agape and speachless and the Christians on their knees.
      And the whole world is going to know.
      Including those who are too busy right now to pay attention. You know, he is willing for none to perish! With the way things are going down here, he has to give us a wake up call. Our more like jerk us up by our haughty little necks!
      Hang in there! Its just a little bit longer!

    • Great post Ally, heartfelt and real !!!

      You would love “The Ancient Jewish Wedding” by Perry Stone on youtube.

      It will really bless ya!!!

      YEP….He’s a coming…SOON !!!

      BE BLESSED !!! 🙂

  11. We have been commanded to; “Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem” for a VERY GOOD reason… it’s where everything begins and ends… It’s the Apple of Gods eye, and he means to prove it…

  12. TO: EVERYONE !!!

    ATTN: Earth Is Shifting South…!!!

    I can personally verify this …it is a FACT!!! Where I live here in Bend, Oregon
    for the last three years in the same house, I know where the sun DID rise
    in the mornings right over this one house and between these few pine trees.

    The sun is NOT rising in that place any longer!

    It has moved so much that the sun’s rays now hit on the back side of the house
    that I live in, and NOT the front like it did before moving quite alot!!!

    Now then, unless my neighbors have moved their HOUSE, Trees, etc…
    or the house I am in somehow secretly moved about 40-50 feet…
    I will tell you with NO DOUBTS…the earth has tilted !!!

    I actually told my mother last year ….who lives back east…and since then
    the sun has even moved more!!! Meaning, the earth has tilted SOUTH.

    I firmly believe this all ties in with REVELATION 6: 12-17……Please READ.

    READ JOEL 2:31……THEN compare with verse 12 above!!! (The SAME !! )

    Note the word “BEFORE” in the Joel verse 31…and NOTE the 2 “signs”

    THIS WILL OCCUR “BEFORE” …. “The great & awesome Day of the Lord”.

    ALSO, Acts 2:20 is the SAME Scripture quoted by Peter !!!

    * 1 Thessalonians 5:1-9….notice 2-3….Day of The Lord…SUDDEN DESTRUCTION !!
    * 2 Peter 3:10-12 …. NOTICE HOW “The Day of The Lord” will come !!!!

    Watch this video BELOW …only 10 min…and it will give you MUCH to ponder !!!

    Wormwood: Prophecy is absolutely amazing (revised and expanded version)

    READ 2 Kings 20:8-11 !!!

    Be Blessed !!!
    PS…YES…It is coming SOON !!!

    • Yes, Kirk, the sun rises in a different place on the horizon from day to day. In recorded history, it always has (since this is a Christian site, we could speculate about pre-Flood times!). On the spring and fall equinoxes, the Sun rises directly east and sets directly west. In the summer, it rises north of east, and sets equally north of west; on the summer solstice, it will be farthest north. In the winter, it rises and sets farther south; on the winter solstice, it will be farthest south.

      In the 21st century, we tend not to watch the sky as closely as our ancestors. Sometimes we’re not up or out at those hours. Sometimes the sky is cloudy. Sometimes buildings conceal the skyline, or street- and advertising lights make us less likely to notice the Sun’s position at those times. Sometimes we don’t remember what we saw the last time we saw sunrise or sunset.

      Some people’s houses don’t face directly north, south, east, or west. (Mine conveniently faces due west — thank you, Previous Owners! Google Maps is a great help on this issue; true north is always at the top of the page.) Depending where you live, compass readings may be way off, and it’s difficult to calculate the location of true north versus magnetic north.

      These links are fairly clear explanations of what’s going on. You may find one or another easier to understand:





      Some interesting details here, though it really suffers from the lack of visuals:

      In my youth they taught all this in about 3rd grade: the sun, the moon, the seasons, why the sky is blue. That was a looooooong time ago. I don’t remember why the sky is blue. Ten or fifteen years ago I had to re-learn how the Moon moves; coincidentally, that was about the time I was learning about the Jewish months and feasts. A surprising number of adults think the Moon rises every evening, sets every morning, and never appears in the daylight sky.

      To calculate true north from your compass reading, see these links:


      Here you only need to know your zip code:

    • JLL…

      Already tracking with ya! I have watched the sky, stars, sun, moon, and
      have noted how they look at various times. Of course the position changes
      everyday, that is how we get warmer in the summer with longer days up till
      June 21st then it loses minutes each day. None of that is new to me.
      The moon being seen in the daytime is nothing new either.

      I get into my car at just about the same time …all year long…three days/ week.
      Every morning I can watch the change over a period of time. But after three
      years, the sun NO longer goes to that part of the sky in the morning…
      at any time …on any day through the year. It has moved.

      OR…like I said, maybe my neighbors move their house a bit every day.


    • Kirk D; it has moved indeed…I live on the East coast of Australia… the ocean is washing away the beaches in certain areas facing south.. that is to say the water is higher than what it use to be….this started some three years ago and is on the increase.. some houses and resorts where i live are in danger of being washed away.. It is serious stuff involving local government council.. No one knows how to fix the problem!

      john b

    • Hi Ben – Not lazy or malicious but you seem uninformed. I went to the article. You’re splitting hairs. I have sat with men that Israeli’s who have lost their families to the Holocaust. I challenge you to walk a day in their shoes. I also stand by what I said and have researched that the Iranian president has made those remarks, here’s the quote from your article:

      Bronner continued: “..it is hard to argue that, from Israel’s point of view, Mr. Ahmadinejad poses no threat. Still, it is true that he has never specifically threatened war against Israel. So did Iran’s president call for Israel to be ‘wiped off the map’? It certainly seems so. Did that amount to a call for war? That remains an open question.”[16] This elicited a further response from Jonathan Steele, who noted that Bronner agreed that “map” or any other place noun had not been used and criticized this Wikipedia entry (as it was on June 14, 2006) for “claiming falsely” that Ethan Bronner had “concluded that Ahmadinejad had in fact said that Israel was to be wiped off the map”.[26]
      At a gathering of foreign guests marking the 19th anniversary of the death of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in 2008, Ahmadinejad said:
      “You should know that the criminal and terrorist Zionist regime which has 60 years of plundering, aggression and crimes in its file has reached the end of its work and will soon disappear off the geographical scene.”[27]

      And by the way. please don’t refer to me as lazy! L.A.

    • How does “Drive them into the Sea” sit with you? because that line has been repeated adnauseum by SEVERAL jihad oriented regimes in the area… INCLUDING IRAN!!!

    • Mystic…

      Must be a “party boat” they are referring to … that’s all.

      Nothing to see here. Move along please!

      Kirk 😉

    • LA and all; is there a difference between a Zionist regime and the people of Israel?

      Is there a difference between Obama and the American people?

      Is there a difference between the Pope and catholic people?

      I am just thinking Here!

      Not all the people represent their leader!

      john b

    • Ben, pick your side. God promised Abraham and through him, the Jews, that He would bless those that bless them, and curse those that curse them, and history has proven it to be true. Pick your side and receive your outcome.

    • The leaders of a nation send their troops to war. Soldiers go where and when they’re told to. It’s not usually the other way around.

  13. LA…

    You are right on !!! I have listened to Mr. “Bad Mood. I’m in a Jihad.” for many years
    and he is ALWAYS shooting his “yapper” off on many occasions!

    No pun intended on the “shooting” part…well, maybe kinda!

    AGAIN, I am flabbergasted at what some people type and speak !!!

    The lack of knowledge leads to little understanding and NO WISDOM !!!

    WOW…astounded again!


  14. Re. Pre-emptive strikes

    Say you had a neighbor who recently moved in next door and this guy was an ex con, who had done time for murder. You started to have verbal clashes with him and he threatened your life. Are you justified in kicking his door in and blowing him away?

    Would you be found guilty even in a secular court system of murder or maybe even manslaughter?

    How about standing in front if God at judgement day…would God accept your explanation of “well, I was in fear for my life so I felt justified in killing him before he killed me”. Just asking a question

    Its funny how some of those who never served in the military are the most warlike.

    I believe nomoleste served tim e in the military from what I can gather and he gets it…

    I also served in desert storm and had a lot of one on one contact with Iraqi prisoners of war…most of them are peaceful people who were forced into the front lines by Saddams secret police who threatened their families. We are taught to hat e and fear the Arabs and dont even really know who we are hating

    Yeshua loves them just as much as He loves us.

    • There is such a thing as a just war… I do not believe that a pre-emptive attack on any nation can be classified just.. The wars of ancient Israel served the purpose of pure worship of a Jealous God..

      The degree of idolatry that is embedded in many churches is what God is concerned about..Babylon will burn!

      It is not so much about the apple of his eye, as it is the body of His Son (the church)

      john B

    • Two neighbors live side by side, onefamily is muslims who hate their Jewish neighbors. The Jews have looked into the windows and saw the whole family has tied themselves to the house and have bombs attached, the whole house is booby trapped and connected to their neigbors house so they both xplode at the same time. The Muslims have rigged something up so that the doors and windows will jam so that the Jews cant get back out. All the bombs are set to detinate at 12:00. The Jews called the authorities who came and demanded the Muslims to come out. They refused, the clock is tickingShould the authorities bulldoze the house down with the Muslims inside, in order to save the Jews?

    • TGBTG; what if the Muslim house contained some Christian prisoners in the basement?

      This is the reality! “We know that we are of God, and the Whole world lies in the Power of the Evil one” 1Jn5:19

      john B

    • JB,
      Once they bulldozed the house down, and flattened it, they’d be able to dig them out and resue them!

      I agreewith you that this is reality and its that reality that the Jewshave to live with every day.

    • TO: Mongoose


      First of all…
      I would have tried in the first place to try and be peaceful on my part.

      Personally, I have NEVER been in any physical fight with anyone.
      Might be difficult to believe, but I do NOT function that way.
      I try to avoid situations like that or putting myself in harms way…
      or just plain ole …”NOT BEING STUPID”.

      I like the verse below…

      “IF POSSIBLE…As much as it depends upon YOU,
      …………………………………….be at peace with ALL men.” Romans 12:18

      That means, sometimes …IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE….to be at peace.

      I have NEVER gone looking for a fight, EXCEPT WITH DEMONS, etc

      Psalm 149:5-9

      5Let the godly ones exult in glory;
      Let them sing for joy on their beds.

      6Let the high praises of God be in their mouth,
      And a two-edged sword in their hand,

      7To execute vengeance on the nations
      And punishment on the peoples,

      8To bind their kings with chains
      And their nobles with fetters of iron,

      9To execute on them the judgment written;
      This is an honor for all His godly ones.
      Praise the LORD!

      Now then…
      The only time I’d be warranted to use force… is IF he came at me or others.
      If he came in my house with evil intent, then he’d leave in a bag.

      Now then, look at the next verse…Romans 12:19…

      “NEVER take your own REVENGE, beloved, but leave room
      for the WRATH of GOD, for it is written,
      “Vengeance is MINE, I will repay”…says The Lord.”

      Having a vengeful heart is obviously NOT good…and will NOT bring
      about the righteous dealings of God.

      WAR…………. is different.

      On this planet, we are ALL sinners, and SOME are saved by Grace through Faith. SIN and “the sin nature” drive people to do wrong…even EVIL things.

      WAR….. crawls out of that ugly hole…and I don’t like it one bit.

      HOWEVER, there is a TIME FOR WAR as stated in Ecclesiastes 3:8.

      AS BELIEVERS…we are at war DAILY…in a spiritual battle…that DOES effect
      our natural realm. To ignore that is simply ignorance.

      King David was “a man after God’s own heart”, yet because he shed
      so much blood in many wars throughout his life,
      GOD would NOT permit David to build The Temple. Instead, David
      raised lots of funds so that Solomon, his son, could build it.

      That shows me that GOD Himself prefers that there be NO war
      or the shedding of blood. HOWEVER, to bring PEACE to Jerusalem
      which many of us are PRAYING FOR DILIGENTLY….

      THE PRINCE of PEACE WILL BE “A MAN of WAR” in order to bring peace
      back to His city…WHERE HIS NAME IS…”Yahweh Shammah”….

      meaning………..”The LORD is THERE.” EZEKIEL 48:35

      You see, there is “a BIGGER picture” to all the war drums we hear
      in the Middle East. People that REJECT His Son JESUS ….
      make THEMSELVES God’s enemy….to which God will respond with ZEAL !!

      AND if people have such “vehement hatred” against God’s people…
      Israel or His Bride…The CHURCH,


      God reserves WRATH for His enemies!!!…as it says in Nahum 1:2

      Think about it….

      WE are made in God’s Image & Likeness…Genesis 1:26.

      Do we NOT have the RIGHTEOUSNESS of GOD ALMIGHTY flowing
      through our veins against EVIL encroaching on our lives ????

      I Believe we do!

      Kirk 😉

      ps….THANKS for serving our country !!!
      I know it was NOT easy………I’d never understand the 1/2 of it.

      Sorry LA…I made another long post…just sorta happen.
      Too many good thoughts! You can always “borrow” them…
      They are for EVERYONE … just like I LEARN from EVERYONE !!!
      Love Ya Man! 🙂

    • TGBTG; that reality is on both side of the fence.. All souls are created in the image of God.. and all souls can be gripped by fear… That is the power of the evil one to Kill, to steal and to destroy!

      john b

    • But John B what you are not understanding is that the one is persecuting the other. Jacob desires to live in peace, can’t you see that? He is not the one doing the attacking. Hes just trying to live and has bent over backwards to live in peace.

    • Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

      26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

      27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

      28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes.

      29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

      Beloved means favored, dearly beloved
      I know that God loves all men, but Paul tells us that the Jews have a special place inGods heart and should also have special place in Christian hearts. They are dearly beloved. I don’t feel that way about any other people, just the Jews, and I’m OK with that.

    • Kirk, thanks for explaining your reasoning and quoting the Scripture that you did.

      We may not agree on everything but I respect you as a fellow believer in Yeshua

      All of us on this forum are truthseekers of some sort or we wouldn’t be on here, I don’t know everything and am open to learning from others wisdom

    • TGBTG; One needs to go back to the time of Napoleon onwards in order to understand the politics of the middle-east… Some say it is the Land, Some say it is oil, some say it is race.. it is all of these things that The enemy has manipulated to bring about His master plan..
      once we understand that “the whole world lies in his Power” things take on another perspective..

      This is all political! and This is where I differ and see things a little different. God’s sovereignty still presides.. War comes from the Red horse Rev6:4 but it is the Lamb that commands the release Vs1.
      I am sure that the average person going to work earning a living want to be able to eat, get their children educated and live a normal life in Peace, be they Jewish or Muslim… It is the desire of the soul to rest!

      Politics has a way of gathering the masses to fulfill its agenda!
      Not everyone in a nation is tarred with the same brush.. although soon but God’s Holy remnant, all will be so tarred against their wishes in the operatives of the Luciferian agenda.

      john B

    • Sometimes I can’t understand why other believers can’t see our spiritual
      connection to the Jews. We are their debtors and since we have been made partakers of their spiritual things the Spirit of God says that its our Duty to minister back to them at least with our carnal things. Its our duty, He says. And if in earthly things, doesn’t that include our support and goodwill and confidence towards them that they would never intentionally harm someone without good reason and only in their own defence?Their lives are in constant danger because of their enemies, who are filled with hate towards them. As christians who understand spiritual things, have we become so identified with the world, that we are unable to see that? Even if the rest of the world, just doesn’t get it, we should understand whats going on.

      We Gentiles, because thats what we all are, were grafted into a Holy Jewish root. We are debtors to them. We weren’t grafted into thin air, but into a holyJewish root who came before us, beloved by God. And they arealso affectionately beloved by us and in our hearts. How can we separate ourselves from caring about them? There is a connection between Christians and Jews , a connection that we don’t share with any other people.God chose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the first fruits and they were holy in Gods eyes. The original holy root to which we were grafted in.

      Now they are in trouble. Israel is distressed and fearful for his life,the enemy is threatening and quickly trying to cut him off, should we not support them?Isn’t that the least we can do? Shouldn’t we separate ourselves from the world’s view of Israel who don’t understand these things?Shouldn’t we stand by the root who remember is holding us up, in whom we have be grafted into?We owe them our support. We owe them much more than that. We are their debtors, we should never forget that. My heart will always be with the people of Israel

    • The Mid East 1967 war was a first strike by Israel. Israel knew an attack was coming from multiple enemies. It struck first.

      It’s not much of a choice is it? A tiny nation allowing their enemies to attack first would be quickly overwhelmed. Have you looked at a map of Israel. It’s …..it’s …….very small.

  15. So what do we make of this whole mass ammo acquisition thing being done by Homeland Security and so forth? Looks like they’re getting ready for something. Seems fairly credible for the most part when you add it all up here but as usual take it with a grain of salt, vet sources, etc. I smell something fishy here myself.

    Remove quotes:



    This last one’s a gem:


    Take note of who’s ordering up what in that link.

    • I just saw that the stinkin’ Social Security Administration ordered 174,000 rounds of HOLLOW POINTS! you only use these rounds for one thing… dropping something/someone straight in their tracks… instantly.

  16. Here’s some funky wisdom…

    “Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.”
    -Frank Zappa-

    Now I am in NO WAY suggesting that LA looks vaugely like Frank with glasses… but…

  17. Hey Everyone~
    LA I hope this is alright to do…
    Rob Skiba is asking the body for prayer and you guys came to mind to ask.Here is what his blogtalk show said:
    I am going to have to postpone tonight’s show. I have been under a lot of attack lately and my body is feeling it. Please pray for us. My blood pressure
    is high, my heart rate races and I have been really shaky lately. Not sure what the deal is, but I know I need to take a step back and take care of it. Sorry. I hope to be back on next week. Again, we covet your prayers. Thanks

    Just letting all the Prayer Warriors know~
    Thanks ~ Winds ~

    • Winds-I prayed but got the DISTINCT impression that we need to prayer forDIVINE PROTECTION! He is under attack in more ways than one. I rarely say things like this but he has been targeted I believe and if course God will turn for good what man had intended for evil!!

  18. I read a lot of people here saying Israel should not do a preemptive strike on Iran for moral reasons. They have a moral obligation to act if people threaten their nation. Unlike Iran, one large nuke would almost wipe out the entire nation. Second, a lot of Israelis are secular. Not all are Jews, some are Christians, and, believe it or not, many Muslims. They expect their nation to act accordingly. Third, which many forget, Iran does fund the terrorists within the middle east. Iran is a serious problem due to this for years. Saudi Arabia and a lot of the Arabian nations do not trust them. Some leaked diplomatic reports came out about it, with a possibility of Saudi Arabia going for nukes if Iran gets them. The rest of the middle east nations never liked Persia. Being a Christian is not a suicide pact, otherwise, we would have let Japan continue to overcome us in 1941, and let the Axis win WW2. I am sorry, but so long as there is evil in this world, we must stand against it. “Evil triumphs when good men do nothing”. It was the Christians in Europe that did nothing when Hitler took power until it was too late that get the shame. Christ accepted death because he had too, he didn’t force you to do the same.

    • In case what i stated earlier was misunderstood, I never said that Israel shouldn’t do a pre-emptive strike. I just said that if they do, they better make sure that it is in fact the will of God. If it is not, then both the blood of their citizens AND the Iranians will be on their head. This is why God has always been reluctant to give Israel a king in the old testament. Because one strong leader not doing the will of God can mislead an entire nation.

    • Sam, something to consider. Good versus evil is a dichotomy scheme of Lucifer. Of course we can not stand idly by and let evil have its way, but too often the good that follows is a secular worldly good.

      No, the proper dichotomy that we should strive for is righteousness versus sinfulness.

      You rightly pointed out that wwii was the epitome of evil in our time. Absolutely!! However, the worldly ‘good’ that followed was the united nations. Mark my words, the UN is the beginning of the Antichrist system. What will follow wwiii? It will go beyond United Nations. It will be One Nation under the god of this world… Lucifer.

  19. Hello to all earlier in one of to God be the glory posts ,was mentioned how even Billy Grahm is being attacked ,or believed to may be a freemason ,and I am in no way a Billy Grahm hater ,it is intresting to say the least that in an youtube video that is about 3 hours long, it has Billy at the end 2:11 in his own words speaking in front of thousands to Robert Shueler ( he,Billy is jumping on the bandwagon) with the eccumenical movement with both feet.The video is called The new age ,enemy of Christ revealed for witnesses.

    • Kimberly,
      Does Billy Graham preach the gospel? Does Billy Graham preach Jesus? Saved by the blood of Jesus, through repentance of sins? Does he love Jesus Christ and has he put his faith in Him? Does he teach others to do the same?
      Does he say follow Billy Graham or does he say follow Jesus?
      Thats his foundation that hes built and spent his whole life on. If he has strayed into minor error that will be taken care of at the judgement seat of Christ.(I didn’t watch the video and don’t care to, I have witnessed enough Billy Graham meetings to know what the man is all about)
      Do you now find problems with the whole Billy Graham world wide out reach and the multitudes who were saved under his preaching? Love covereth. Lets speak well about our brothers and sisters in Christ and leave the slander for the world. They do that best anyway, but we should always choose the way of love.

    • Wow, ya leave your desk for a while and storms kick-up… I haven’t even read the other posts yet… But I can’t believe that anyone would EVER have to defend Billy Graham… ever.

    • Can anyone genuinely validate that Billy Graham is a mason or that he has stated that there is more than one path to God? I have wondered about this more than once, but I would like real proof one way or another. Not just becuase it is found on some internet sight or words pieced together on you tube, but genuine facts?

    • “Ahhhh..!! Don’t you love the smell of compromise in the morning!!”
      Billy Graham has publicly stated that Jesus is NOT THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER and that we should not judge..leave it to God. Did you also know the Catholic Church is involved with the Billy Graham Ministries, and has funded him for years..?
      I for one don’t care how famous or how Godly this bloke may sound, there is enough biblical error and compromise with this man for me to drop him like a hot brick. The Word say’s it’s the “small foxes that ruin the vine” and this is anything but “small’.
      Gosh man..Compromise has destroyed the Church as a whole and brought ruination to countless thousands of believers, always starting at the top, it trickles down to the masses who embrace the smooth flowing poison fed to them. Men have lost their love for the Truth, and the Church will no longer stand for righteousness, but instead have sold out for ease and comfort and are told “don’t rock the boat Brother, it’s all good, put your feet up, have another coffee.”.. Gosh!!
      Remember this, the blackness of the lie with kill you stone motherless dead….but so will the dark grey and the off white. Make a stand Brother….stand for the only thing that is straight and good and True, the uncompromised Word of God, for if we do as you say and look upon these things as nothing more than “small errors”, then Heaven help us, for we are well and truly undone !

    • Far be it from me to speak up on the behalf of a Kiwi, but I too have heard that Billy graham has said things, in later life, which have shaken Christian people e.g. about who we will be surprised to find in heaven. We don’t make these stories up but they do come from seemingly solid sources.

      Mysticmentor, I don’t believe that was venom dripping from Kiwijim’s lips [ or larpes as they say in New Zealand ] but the passion of someone loyal to the lord and acting on what he believes has been said.

      I don’t know if Billy graham has gone off road with doctrine or whether he has said things of the equivalent to Stan Deyo saying that at the rapture Christians may leave their dead bodies on Earth while they ascend in their Resurrection bodies i.e. the Earth will be littered with the corpses of Christians. It sounds a bit scary but doesn’t exactly impinge on any basic Christian doctrine.

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