The Days of Chaos: Lone Gunman or 4 Shooters?

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TEMPLE SHOOTING _”4 SHOOTERS” _Milwaukee – YouTube

“Very well coordinated, Wasn’t haphazard, Releasing of Gas” – Sikh Temple Shooting witness

“Very well coordinated, Wasn’t haphazard, Releasing of Gas” – Sikh Temple Shooting witness – YouTube

CBS News: Shooter Identified As Former US Military Member

CBS News: Shooter Identified As Former US Military Member « CBS DC

CBS News reports that Page enlisted in the Army in April 1992 and was given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He was last stationed in Fort Bragg, N.C., serving in the psychological operations unit.

The first video link above shows a witness claiming that there were four shooters at the Sihk Temple.  He is calm and reports that four white men dressed in black came into the building.   Why is his statement overlooked by the media who is claiming that there was only one shooter, who is right and who is wrong?

Like the Batman shooting where the witnesses in the theater said there were two shooters, there is a discrepancy so which is it?

The most revealing information to come from this most recent shooting so far is that one of the shooters, the one who was shot dead at the scene was X military and served in the Psychological Operations Unit!  What did he do there?

The Batman Shooter, James Holmes, was asking what he was doing in jail and from the pictures that were released, it would appear that Holmes was on some very heavy drugs, or perhaps switched to an alter personality before the shooting.  We know that Holmes was under the care of a psychiatrist.

Jared Loughner, James Holems and now this latest shooter, Wade Michael Page, may all have common ground in that they may be involved in some kind of military mind control, super soldier, program.

With this recent shooting are we looking at the classic dialectic?  The conflict being the shooting.  The counter conflict, is the cry for gun control.  The synthesis, every gun in America is then registered or worse taken away, under the pretext of a safer country.

In closing todays post:  These are The Days of Chaos and it seems like every week there is another senseless event that shocks us.  Check out the In Other News Section and see the chaos happening around the globe.  Something has shifted and I believe that shift is a supernatural one.  The enemy grows bold and he is softening the objective.  Are people being triggered?  Was there only one shooter or four like the witness claims.   If there were four shooters, then we have a conspiracy.  Was it a lone gunman or four, which is it?


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93 thoughts on “The Days of Chaos: Lone Gunman or 4 Shooters?


    “A federal official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media refused to say whether the gunman was thought to belong to a hate group or some other violent group because the investigation was still unfolding.”

    The shooting appears to be the work of an organized team. Despite the police and FBI stating there was only one shooter who was shot dead by police, people at the scene insist there was multiple shooters:

    This inconvenient fact will be assigned to the memory hole as the establishment media follows the official narrative now being formulated – the shooter was a white supremacist with telltale racist tattoos who a) belonged to a political group that will be scapegoated and held up as an example of violent rightwing extremism, or b) was a “lone wolf” who followed racist political philosophy (more than likely sharing attributes outlined in the Department of Homeland Security’s “rightwing extremism” document, including the supposed threat by returning veterans).

    • Well, if there were four shooters, they had really, really bad aim: only six Sikhs killed and two Sikhs wounded, plus the first policeman.

      Apparently police are now asking for info about an “unnamed person of interest [who] was on scene after the shooting. Some on the scene thought he looked suspicious, but he left before officers could speak with him.” Scroll down for the photo:

    • Indeed, Brick. I do pray for the bad guys as well as the victims, because I wouldn’t wish a life without Jesus on anyone.

  2. One consistent thought that has remained in my head is that I have a hard time seeing past the elections. I personally feel that the thought I continue to have is what I would call “a conviction thought” from the Holy Spirit. I don’t know maybe I’m wrong.

    Maybe its because I’ve heard soo many bible prophecy teachers speak of a country that will be in marshall law due to either a false flag event or a terrorist activity or the war of Psalm 83 or Jeremiah 49 or maybe its because I have read of soo many people having visions of earthquakes on both coasts or devastating solar flares that even have the government warning its troops of. Or maybe its because I feel that Iran may even strike America soon with 40,000 suicide bombers. They are calling for the Mahdi to return as well as the destruction of the big satan the US and the little satan Israel. 175 nuclear suitcases are missing from Russia and I guarantee you they are here in the states.

    Israel has to strike Iran soon. It is clear that Israel is sending the signal to everyone that within the next 90 days they will attack Iran, Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

    Pair that with the coming collapse of the Euro that will devastate global markets, I really see this world at the precipice of the tribulation period sometime within the next three months.

    I don’t know is anyone else having these feelings?

    • I certainly think you may be on to something, though I hope we’re wrong…certainly, I don’t give us more than a few years. Come Lord Jesus!

    • DEFINITELY!!! a building urgency… like there’s something I’m forgetting, or something that I need to get done… My Spirit Man is in a state of acute agitation… Time is short… something about October has been nagging at me…

    • Amen to Richard, Frank & MM here. As has already been stated on this blog, the unavoidable $ crash will be devastating & any one of several events will trigger it. These events will be synchronized and/or domino-style. Not to mention the “natural” catastrophes that keep escalating!

      I have been contacting a lot of people, (some I lost touch with years ago) and as led by Holy Spirit, I’m talking about what really matters at such a time as this. In a few cases, it’s appropriate just to lead them straight to L.A.’s website after a few introductory remarks. But many people are not equipped to even deal with any thoughts of emergency preparedness and/or they’re hostile toward the Good News.

      However, I’m finding that HS has words for all of them for right where they’re at. Perhaps some seeds are being sown for people just to know not to take the mark during the Great Trib. It’s exciting to realize how much purpose there is for us believers now. Jesus says: “I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends … “ (John 15:15). How awesome, WE KNOW His business!

      As I said, Holy Spirit leads us as to what and how much to tell people, and it’s exciting how I have become emboldened to speak to so many. I have an awesome sense of God using all of my life now for such a time as this!

      Alleluia!! Thank You, Jesus. All Your promises are true, Lord!!

    • I agree that TEOTWAWKI (the end … as we know it) is near, and I hold to the preTrib view. I also believe that we will be experiencing incredible “shock and awe” (bad AND GOOD!) in an extremely short period of time very soon. For many years I’ve had a vision of preparing for a record-breaking, mind-boggling harvest in a breathtakingly short amount of time.

      For a while now, I have been convinced that the next “Revival” will happen as millions CRY OUT to God. The reason that they’ll cry out is from the unfolding nightmare they’re trapped in at TEOTWAWKI. IMHO, we will suffer some (and/or some of us shall suffer), though ultimately we’ll be delivered from the Great Wrath. Some of our soon sufferings may be mitigated (ref Psalms 91) compared to what most will experience. But BOTTOM LINE: This is the time we were created for. We’ll get to minister (and intercede) in such amazing times! We are the ones here for such a time as this.

      Whether people have secular or Christian world views, there is an ever-increasing sense of “something’s coming and it keeps getting darker”). We have the answers. I believe that, more than ever, we should be alert to the needs/questions of others . . . and PREPARE for the GREAT WAKE-UP Call!!

      This all may sound pretty elementary, but I keep finding that so many of my former day-to-day concerns are looking pretty trivial now and I must focus on our LORD more than ever! What an honor to be alive right now for our King and Kingdom purposes! I’ve intellectualized about end times for so long, but now it’s in my heart and my spirit as never before.

      I hope this is an encouragement to someone(s?). I’m rather recent to this blog and I appreciate everything I read here beyond words. This blog has been a huge inspiration for me to get proper perspective and to help explain things to others.
      Blessings to all . . .

      I just want you to know that your post IS an encouragement to me.
      I have been in growing and growing anticipation for over thirty years now, and have been finding myself lately growing very tired of the “next week this” and “it’s just around the corner now” and all the date setting. The emotional roller coaster ride of it all has completely worn me down, and sometimes I just wish it would all just happen and get over with. But then I remember all who aren’t saved, and I read wonderful comments like yours, and it gives me the strength to get up again and try to do the Lord’s bidding, as you say, in such a time as this.
      Thank you for your encouraging words and excitement. I needed that today.
      Overflowing blessings to you all.

    • The rumour and violence in the land, our precursor to get out of Babylon (U.S.)?

      Jer 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour (report) that shall be heard in the land; a rumour (report, to stun devastate) shall both come one year, and after that in another year (not necessarily the very next year, duplicate, do strike again, do the second time) shall come a rumour and violence in the land, ruler against ruler

      First, if we look at the previous first we are told to “go ye out of the midst of her (U.S.)”

      Jer 51:45My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD

      And look at the word that Joins Jer 51:45 with Jer 51:46

      The word “And” is the first word in Jer 51:46

      What does the word “and” do?

      “And” is a conjunction, connective or conjoining word. It signifies that a word or part of a sentence is to be added to what precedes.

      So verse 46 connects with verse 45. Verse 46 tells the event or events that will take place at the time that we are to “go ye out of the midst of her”

      There are two events that take place in Jer 51:46. One has already taken place and the other we have not seen yet.

      Jer 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year (not necessarily the very next year but a different year) shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler (ruling power) against ruler (ruling power)

      Let’s look at the word “rumour”

      Feminine passive participle of H8074; something heard, that is, an announcement: – bruit, doctrine, fame, mentioned, news, report, rumor, tidings.

      And H8074

      A primitive root; to stun (or intransitively grow numb), that is, devastate or (figuratively) stupefy (both usually in a passive sense): – make amazed, be astonied, (be an) astonish (-ment), (be, bring into, unto, lay, lie, make) desolate (-ion, places), be destitute, destroy (self), (lay, lie, make) waste, wonder.

      Can you think of an event that has happened in the U.S. that was a famous announcement/news report that stunned, amazed, made something lie desolate or self-destroyed, was laid waste, was a wonder?

      Look back at the beginning of Jer 51:46 “And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour”

      What event happened in the U.S. that caused American hearts to faint and to fear?

      I am sure most of are thinking of the same event, but let’s look even deeper.

      Look at the word “violence”


      From H2554; violence; by implication wrong; by metonymy unjust gain: – cruel (-ty), damage, false, injustice, X oppressor, unrighteous, violence (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong.

      What event happened in the U.S. that caused American hearts to faint and brought fear to the American people?

      What event that has happened in the U.S. that was a famous announcement/news report that stunned, amazed, made something lie desolate or self-destroyed, was laid waste, was a wonder?


      What event in the U.S involved a wrong, violent, damaging, unrighteous, unjust act?

      What event includes all the above descriptions?

      I think we can all say the 911 attacks perpetrated by our government.

      Isn’t it amazing our Bible tells us that the government conducted the 911 attacks.

      So that is/was the first rumour

      Second rumour

      The second rumour is yet to come.

      This rumour will again be like the first rumour (911);

      1) American hearts will faint and fear will come to the American people

      2) An event in the U.S. that will be a famous announcement/news report that stuns, amazes, makes something lie desolate or self, destroy, laid waste, and will be a wonder?

      3) the destructi0n that takes place will also be a wrong, violent, damaging, unrighteous, injust act.

      Let’s take a look at another group of key words in Jer 51:46

      Jer 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.

      “one year”

      שׁנה שׁנה
      shâneh shânâh
      shaw-neh’, shaw-naw’
      (The first form being in plural only, the second form being feminine); from H8138; a year (as a revolution of time): – + whole age, X long, + old, year (X -ly).

      And here is the key

      A primitive root; to fold, that is, duplicate (literally or figuratively (); by implication to transmute (transitively or intransitively): – do (speak, strike) again, alter, double, (be given to) change, disguise, (be) diverse, pervert, prefer, repeat, return, do the second time.

      So the words “one year”

      Let us know that the second rumour will be just like the first rumour (911).

      The event will be some kind of strike that will be was disguised and perverted just like 911 was and perpetrated by our government just like 911 was.

      When this second rumour takes place that will be our sign as Jer 51:45 says “My people, go ye out of the midst of her”

    • I’m feeling it on every level, Richard. As Hawk said on Friday’s show, he’s hearing from many – especially current and former military members….they’re struggling with the feeling one gets just before an ambush! I would say that’s an accurate feeling and I’m not current or former military. I think we’re in store for SOMETHING massive on several fronts or on rolling fronts. The verse that keeps rolling around in my mind is, “Be not deceived, God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man sews, that whill he also reap!” We are perched on the precipice, the slide has been greased and somebody’s pushing from behind…. Armor up!!!

  3. Is Russia feeling a Collapse in Syria is Near?

    For Israel, Moscow is something of a weather vane for gauging what is happening in Syria. A similar situation happened on the eve of the Yom Kippur War in 1973 when Russia pulled its diplomats and military advisers out of Egypt shortly before the war.

    “Russia has a better feel for what is happening in Syria, and by following what it does it is possible to better gauge when President Bashar Assad might fall,” a defense official explained.

    According to a report published last week by the Washington- based Institute for the Study of War, the Tartus Port is being used as a “as a political lever, both to affect the outcome of the Syrian civil war and to maintain legitimate access to a strategically located facility nested in the Arab world.”

    The report also suggested that if Assad decided to withdraw from Damascus and fall back to a more defensible position in the Alawite coastal basin including Latakia and Tartus, Russia would be able to maintain its naval presence there. If, however, Assad’s regime completely collapses, it is unlikely that a new Sunni regime would allow Russia to continue docking in Tartus.

    Russia’s Interfax news agency said on Friday that the loss of Tartus would be a strategic blow to Russia.

    “Tartus is of extreme military- strategic importance for the Russian Navy, as the backup for the task forces in the Mediterranean. Therefore, its loss would entail deep negative consequences and the actual loss of influence in this key region,” Interfax quoted a militarydiplomatic source as saying.


  4. Italian PM warns of the break-up of the Eurozone and the European Union

    August 6, 2012 – ROME – The big news this morning is coming from an interview Italy’s Mario Monti gave to German magazine Der Spiegel, in which he warned that growing Italian resentment against Germany risks the break-up of not just the eurozone but the European Union itself. He said the eurozone tensions “bear the traits of a psychological dissolution of Europe,” adding that Europe “must work hard to contain it.” Asked about a strengthening in resentment between the allegedly profligate southern European nations and the bloc’s thrifty northern members,

    Monti told Der Spiegel “it is very alarming, and we have to fight against it. Yes, there is a front line in this area between north and south, there are reciprocal prejudices,” according to AP’s report of the interview. In the meantime, tensions between Germany and Italy appear to be on the rise. The news comes after an Italian newspaper splashed its front page on a photo of Angela Merkel with her arm raised and the headline “Quarto Reich.”

    Meanwhile, in an op-ed in Germany’s Bild Romano Prodi, a former Italian prime minister and president of the EU Commission, urged Germany to show “true leadership” in steering the continent through the crisis, saying the bloc’s biggest economy has the duty “to lead Europe toward a better future.” If Germany fails to lead through the crisis, it “would be the political end, for Europe and for Germany,” he insisted, urging Berlin to present a “clear action plan to achieve a democratic, federally structured Europe.” It is important to note that il Giornale is owned by Berlusconi. –Guardian

    • US banks are bracing for a possible disintegration of the euro zone, Britain’s The Financial Times reported on Monday.

      The newspaper mentioned the banks’ plummeting loan transactions in the euro zone countries.

      According to the Financial Times, the banks plan to make some amendments to their credit contracts so they can be in line with London’s financial legislation, a step that they say will help them protect their investments in case of a potential collapse of the euro zone.

      Meanwhile, Royal Dutch Shell has announced the withdrawal of some of its funds from European banks. The Anglo-Dutch oil major signaled its readiness to deposit 15 billion of cash in non-European assets, such as US Treasuries and US bank accounts.

    • It’s a planned collapse. I can’t remember where I saw the article, but all the money has been moving out of the southern countries of the bloc to the north, specifically Britain. Once they have those countries collapsing then all you have to do is destroy the place where the money is concentrated…The one basket.

  5. “The Days of Chaos: Lone Gunman or 4 Shooters?”

    Appears to also be well coordinated. How well could all this be orchestrated across the country and the timing just around the corner for gun control.

    Terror and fear are better “people control” if someone is seeking to change an agenda in its own favor.

    Four white gunmen dressed in black is the eye witness report:

    So what incident will we see for tomorrow?

  6. If you can’t take people’s guns away with one shooting, then just keep staging them until the populace cries out for gun control. Problem -> Reaction -> Solution.

  7. I’m beginning to think we are going to see the New world order come into place before the new year. I believe everything that has been happened is controlled chaos, and this is what Satan wants before he comes on to the scene. I just had a dream recently about zombie attacks and it opened my mind of thinking and to me it seems Hollywood no’s way to much of what’s going to happen in the near future and i mean near future I believe it’s close approaching, especially when Hollywood produce’s these apocalyptic movie scenario’s. All I’m saying is I believe Hollywood is also mind controlling the people, just next time when you watch a movie just pay close attention to the scenes whether it may by be a thriller or hoar movie and then look at the Bible and then again look at the character’s that are playing these rolls, I believe in a scense of things even though Hollywood soups things up a bit there going to get what they are promoting. And just to mention I think things are really starting to manifest right before eyes. Just wait when reality hits supernatural.

    • Yes, Hollywood is propaganda to the max. Unholywood!!

      They are even getting blatent with their message. I have pointed out a few times on this blog that the dichotomy they push the most is good versus evil. Being knowledgable of biblical prophecy, you can easily see how they portray evil in the bible as represented as the heros of the movie and good in the bible as the nemesis. This happens WAY TOO MUCH to be coincidental.

      A good example of a blatant example is the kid movie, “The Last Airbender”. This movie was absolutely awful, but well worth the view if you want to see how blatent it has gotten. Put the thought that the Avatar is the AC and be amazed. They even have a blatant Judas to round out the storyline. Chilling.

  8. For LA, re: psyops, ask Larry about “Volant Solo.”

    For everyone else, LA is spot on that the attacks (and escalations) come from the enemy (I would say the rebel angels) no matter what proxies they use. So for instance the different shooters might have handlers out of different intelligence agencies, apparently competing agencies, but all manipulated by the enemy, compartmentalized in the extreme.

    Please direct countermeasures appropriately (spiritual warfare & Full Armor).

  9. Even if just one gunman, it could still be a conspiracy. The mere fact the shot gunman was a white supremacist suggests that he may have talked with others like him. It is being treated as domestic terrorism which indeed it is!

    In fact, I am amazed that more like these shootings doesn’t happen each and every day IF we are truly that close to being judged as a nation for our ungodliness! I woudl think as we get closer there will be a massive ramping up of such attacks.

    Add to this he fact that we are a violent society and it woudl seem inevitable. Just take the mere fact that in Canada there are MORE gun owned (legally) per capita THERE and yet they don’t have even 1/10th the gun violence we have here.

    I know this is something most Church going Christians don;t want to face but the fact is this country was founded on REBELLION, forging independence through it and violence, so is it really that shocking that we woudl continue to this day dealing with such? It is in our cultural DNA.

  10. Here’s what I think. I think we’ve been under God’s judgment for a while. Weird weather, katrina, gulf spill, excessive tornadoes.

    I just started reading wilkerson’s “America’s last call” and it’s hitting home. Though we’ve been under some degree of judgment I think, He’s been merciful. We haven’t repented (as a whole) and so, unfortunately, I think God’s going to have really let loose soon.

    My personal feeling, and I am not “predicting” or “thus saith the Lord” I think we’re going to see California hit by “the Big One” and soon. Much of the evil in our country comes from there. Hollywood/movies (and porn). Bohemian grove. You name it. Who know, maybe the san madrid might go with it.

    If not that, I don’t know what else.

    • Who know, maybe the san madrid might go with it.

      😎 Well, if you mean the California fault, it’s the San Andreas.

      The New Madrid is in SE Missouri (not as well delineated, but it caused a series of huge EQs 200 years ago).

      God could use either as a final judgement to collapse the U.S.

      Or both.

    • Well, I guess I’ll be floating away in the ocean when it happens. I live in Camp Pendleton Marine Corps base. I think about the “Big One,” hitting at any moment. Sheesh!!

  11. FEMA Makes Preparation For UFO Attack YouTube – is this part of the secret government plan for gradual disclosure or to create a false flag alien invasion?

  12. What I’m about to share here is slightly off topic. Nonetheless I am feeling burdened to do so. Last night I connected to a link posted at Worldview Weekend that took me directly to Apprising Ministries website ((for those of you who are unfamiliar with AM, it is another watchman type site that monitors the emergent/dominionist/heretical/apostate church.)) Now to the point…. the article linked to is by “Ken Silva pastor-teacher” who is a frequent contributor to AM. What I read had to do with the recent Prophecy Summit at Branson and Ken’s take on the DVD collection/speakers and topics soon to be available. His Christian opinions in reference to this -which he believes are Biblically mandated- have really turned my head and saddened me. Please consider reading one or both of the articles I’m going to link to. We’re talking serious accusations here.

    • That’s interesting as he’s been on derek gilbert’s show before. Maybe time to have him back on? Maybe silva’s jealous he couldn’t go to branson?.

      Point 1 – on branson, I didn’t go but have been hearing the interviews with gilbert. Not sure that I’ve heard anything, other than avi lipkin that made me go, “eh, I don’t know…” still, Acts 17:11

      Point 2 – while quantum physics can be very New agey, aspects of it (namely the higher dimensional theory) is a great explanation of the spirit wolrd. To me anyways. It’s not without dangers, but I think it can support the Bible if used correctly. He’s obviously never heard Missler’s daily show.

      The holographic universe…what I take missler to mean is that the spirit world, where God presumably is, is the “real” reality and we in this frame of existance are not in that “reality”. It makes sense to me anyways.

      Still, best to be cautious.

    • I’m always amazed when small brains like Ken Silva take on big topics like quantum physics. I say, God bless teachers like Chuck Missler who are willing to tie in quantum physics with the bible. Most church teachers have their heads buried in the sands of the 1600s … Isaac Newton’s world. Quantum physics literally drips from every page of the bible. Yet you have people like Silva, who obviously don’t understand such physics, waving the New Age flag and criticizing Missler and others.
      Should we be surprised that the church famously ignores topics that don’t fit their dark ages mindset? That’s why the church doesn’t talk about Nephilim, UFOs, other dimensions. That’s why the church, if they do talk about angels, portray them as little fat cherubs with nice smiles, not as sword-wielding beings who go out and slay 185,000 Syrians after supper one night.
      Church, get your collective heads out of the sand! Quantum physics is here to stay. Deal with it.

    • Ick. Well, add Silva to your prayer list.

      I have been saddened also by the nitpicking nastiness of the accusations against Jonathan Cahn and his book, The Harbinger. [Some of those accusers were also at Branson; must have been interesting.]

      We are none of us perfect, but I was appalled at the degree of vitriol in the anti-Harbinger articles I looked at…. I doubt they’d even read the book….

    • “Touch not my anointed, and do my Prophets no harm.”

      This is used out of context all the time as an excuse and a rug to sweep things under.

      That doesn’t mean anything and everything goes like I know it does for some people.

      Acts 17:11 Be like the Bereans

      1 John 4. Test the Spirits. Match it against Scripture. If it doesn’t match, you shine a bright light on it for what it is and if you’ve got to name names then you do it to warn others from wolves in sheep’s clothing.

      How about Matthew 10:16

      “16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.”

      It’s called DISCERNMENT, folks. Something in alarming short supply in the body of Christ today. That’s another “last days” symptom.

      We’re not supposed to turn our brains off just because it “feels good” or “gives me an experience.” <- This is killing the Church!

      What about God's Word? Just because it feels good doesn't automatically it's God, folks! Satan knows how to masquerade as an angel of light, too, and he's been doing a lot of it right in the church.

      I know Frank for sure knows where I'm coming from. 😉

      If I don't see something clearly in God's Word I reject it. That simple.
      I don't care WHO is saying it. Pretty simple. I can have respect and respectful disagreements but I'm concerned with some of those concepts and where they're coming from, fascinating though they may be and well intentioned as they may be.

      When I get that Conference Set there will be some messages that I don't watch for any number of reasons.

    • It seems that no matter who or what I look up online, there’s always a gainsay opinion. Sometimes I then want to check out the opposing view to see if I’ve been missing anything or to better confirm my own opinion.

      I’m not familiar with Apprising Ministries, but Worldview Weekend seems to have a lot of good stuff overall (or it used to; it’s been a while for me). Given the kind of audience that I think WW attracts, I’m looking to Romans 8:28 to get a lot of them to wonder about said Branson conference.

      What if some folks get curious and receive a sense of revelation when they investigate? Probably most people who know better about ETP won’t be dissuaded by Ken Silva, but now some new searchers may be reached. Nothing convicts like the truth. I hope a lot of people want to check out the details and that they find L.A. et al. as a result! After the attacks on Chik-fil-a, they had record-breaking sales.
      Let’s have some of that for L.A. & Co.! (:o)

      Thanks, Debra. I’m interested to check out the AM site now 2C where they’re “at” in other views about apostate emergent church.

    • WVW is a solid ministry. They beat the dead horse on Harbinger, though.

      I’m quick to add to my earlier post: Had I been at the Conference it would have been nonstop handshakes and hugs with no exceptions. So no one gets the wrong idea. 🙂

      Amaezed: I think you and I might be on the same page about some things. 🙂

    • Frank (and others): Pray for the Lipkins. They’re not saved. Yet. 😉

      They’re VERY friendly and Biblically based Jews that really provide a lot of great information. 🙂

    • Thank you all for taking time to read and reply. Being like the Bereans is definitely our best call here. I’m just “shell-shocked” at the crazy irony embedded in all this. Btw, I also noticed a strange blurb posted into my email homepage last night that was showing “Recycling Tips” in a small section. This particular tip was about making a “nice little hat out of aluminum foil.” Yep. That’s what it said! O_O Oh well………..

    • There’s a way to be Berean and that’s in a Christ like and loving fashion with a Bible in your hand.

      Some of that stuff like that Star Trek mockery link doesn’t even offer a point of dialog or anything to work off of. Nothing remotely constructive or useful.

      Very disappointing to see that kind of stuff out there and insulting to see it done by people/groups calling themselves “ministries.” That sort of thing is downright petty and outright unfair and uncalled for.

  13. *cues nasally voice*

    Now L.A. and everyone settle down and stop reaching for your tin foil hats. This is just another completely random and sensless gun violence act and we need to take those guns off the streets so everyone can be more safe.


    I had to chuckle when I saw Russ Dizdar’s reaction when this news about this horrible shooting happened yesterday. It was simply a link to the news with him asking: “Again?” Coming from Russ, that one word says a lot.

    Yes. Again.

    Again we can cite mainstream sources and have a bunch of questions that force you to scratch your head in regards to background, timing, and the rest of it.

    If these are the last days (however long that is) than I’m the Easter Bunny.

    It’s scary stuff to watch and that’s why I can only follow L..A.’s lead on the “Be still and know I am the Lord” message because this is where we need to be diving back into the Word and being ready to spread that Word and offer comfort and support and Godly answers as more people watch this and wonder just what the heck is going on.

    Keep looking out…and keep looking up.

    • Eric W: Thanks for your reply to my post. I’m very new to this blog and was wondering if I sounded ingenuous. That’s ironic b/c I’ve witnessed and experienced and been completely delivered out of extremely high-end darkness. And that’s why I’m always “amaezed” at our Lord. Thanks again!

  14. It was a one armed man… lol sorry I had to make that joke. This is a sad thing but I believe there was 4 shooters. Also something to think about is that all of these shootings here lately are happening in swing states. Something to stop and think about… Most definitely the time of the great deception and tribulation is growing closer every day.

  15. Last week I wrote about the word I received, ‘heliacal rise in the east, war will begin.’ Well I found this video showing via stellarium that the rise of sirius this year is august 11.

    This is all in conjunction with freemasonry and thier highlighting orion and sirius explained by the video.

  16. A Christian perspective into the”Illuminati Card Games”, “Combined Disasters Card” and Its symbolism pointing towards the end of days and the day of the Lord. Does it point towards the 2012 Olympics or Jeremiah 50 51 and an America sneak attacked by Russia and Islam to start WWIII?

    This guy does an unbelievable job breaking the card down. He breaks the whole card down pointing out the symbolism of Jeremiah 50 51. However wait until he shows you maps in correlation to the card. I about fell off my chair.

    I’m watching this twice.

    • Do you have a link? I can’t play your video on my phone.

      I still can’t wait to see how albino alligator comes into play.

    • I say this respectfully but I’m genuinely skeptical about this sort of thing.

      Can’t someone “make” the cards “say” whatever they want, basically?

      It’s interesting stuff but ultimately I’m back to my “what’s in the Bible?” talking point. 🙂

    • I need to side with Eric and I will try and be repectful. These studies in over laying tracing paper over other images start to come off like Rorschach ink blot test. I won’t dismiss right off the bat his religious outlook on prophetic events, but seeing images in other images and fitting them to your worldview doesn’t add to the authenticity of your beliefs. Its like seeing pictures in the clouds.

      I fear these kinds of studies lead people away from the gospel because it requires a lot of effort to suspend disbelief to hear the underlying biblical message he is trying to state. It’s a distraction. Sorry.

    • Maybe let’s make a game of it. Who can come up with the best theory using the iluminatti (I can’t spell it, I won’t join it!) Card game cards.


    • Hey Richard! What is this guys name? I am not saying he is right, but I am definately not saying he is wrong. I might check out some more of his stuff just out of curiosity. He may be into something (like too much acid in the 60’s lol) or it might be clear from the Holy Spirit! But it is most certainly very odd and deserves more study maybe not for others but I like the weird stuff. This is very compelling and I will pray for discernment. Thanks!

  17. “Olympians told they are ushering in the New World Order…”

    Gosh,why am I not supprised at this.

    • WoW. I’m gonna check around web for any more of this “chatter!” Thanks for sharing KJ. Blessings:^)

  18. Everyone….LISTEN !!

    This message will challenge you to your core !!!







    JAMES 4:8


    • Here we go again…………….

      Bill Johnson is another of the Word Of Faith movement wolf in sheeps clothing.

      Do some research on him.



    • John Michael,









      MIGHT BE TIME TO GROW UP….’Cause that is what “CHRISTIANS” do.

      JESUS IS OUR EXAMPLE !!! Gee, What do we see IN ALL THE GOSPELS ?!?

      ALL OF THE ABOVE!!! See John 14:12-14 !!!



      Oh ya, what does Romans 10:8-10 say…

      8But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, “THE WORD of FAITH” which we are preaching,……

      9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.


      YOU CAN’T BE SAVED !!!!!!!!!!!!

      Why don’t you read MARK 11:23-24 too!

    • JM,
      I clicked over to that site you recomended and whoever is running that site, says this”:I believe the Bible is quite clear that the gift of healing has ceased”
      So right away we can see that hes already in error in what he believes.

      Can he prove the gifts have ceased? has tongues ceased?, discerning of spirits?prophesy ?word of wisdom? Word of knowledge?faith? working of miracles? have they all ceased? How about laying on of hands, a basic doctrine of the church?Are we not supposed to do that either? How much of the Bible do you wish to cut out?
      Prove by scripture, using your own words that all the gifts have ceased.

      This man mockingly says, “please go to the nearest elderly home and start healing” he said again “anyone with this gift ought to be able to heal at will”

      What you and he fail to understand is that people who operate in the gifts are still subject to God. Thiis is NOT witch craft where a person can use potions and recipes which if followed perfectly produce the desired results every time. Not so with Gods gifts.We are completely dependant on Him and He will not allow His power to operate through us without His authorization.

      There was a man who waited by the pool waiting for the angel to stir the water to be healed. Jesus took him and healed him. Why didn’t He heal all those who were in there waiting too, for the stirring of the water, as the owner of this site expects all of us to do today? Things are a mystery. We don’t understand it all right now.
      Gods power is GREATLY affected in a negitive way by unbelief. It limited the power of the Holy Spirit working through Jesus in His own home town.
      Mark 6:53 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

      4 But Jesus, said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.

      5 And he- could there do no mighty work,- save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

      6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief

      What about Paul who had the gifts of the Spirit operating in his life? Why didn’t he just immediately cast the demon out of this girl who was following them “many days” if it was only up to him don’t you think he would have cast out that demon by the end of day one?,

      Acts 16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:

      17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

      18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

      The man running this site doesn’t understand the way God operates and as such, shouldn’t take it upon himself to point fingers.

      Ask God to fill you with His Holy Spirit, today!

    • Kirk, I haven’t the time to go round and round with you and your friend. I will say this for now, I wish I could look into your eyes to see who it is that fuels your rage. Shalom.

    • JM,
      I guess I must be the “friend” youre talking about? Thats not rage you hear in Kirk, but zeal for the Lord. Sort of like Joshua and Caleb, who believed God and wanted to go in there with Gods power and get those giants, and take the promised land. But their friends were filled with fear, thinking that Gods power wouldn’t be enough.They pleaded and begged, but they just wouldn’t believe.
      Even so today people are willingly filled with unbelief.

      People want to say that after I asked God for the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, and I began to speak in tongues, that I received an evil spirit. They warn, “don’t use that gift, its not from God” Yet God says, if we being evil know how to give good gifts to our children, won’t God give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”

      When you or your teachers that you trust in, say we have received something evil when we asked God to be filled with the Spirit, isn’t that calling God a liar? Because God says one thing and your teachers say another. Who are you going to believe? We live out our whole christians lives-by faith.

      Also, you ought to be able to explain in your own words where in the bible it says that all gifts have ceased. You shouldn’t send people to sites to do the explaining for you. Don’t depend on others for the truth you believe, but learn it yourself and be able to say what you believe. People are too trusting in what others teach, without doing their own research. How many scriptures did they have to ignore to come to that conclusion?

    • John Michael,

      When you said to me in your last post…

      “I wish I could look into your eyes to see who it is that fuels your rage”…

      THAT reminds me of …Mark 3:22-30 !!!

      22The scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and “He casts out the demons by the ruler of the demons.” 23And He called them to Himself and began speaking to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24“If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25“If a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26“If Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but he is finished! 27“But no one can enter the strong man’s house and plunder his property unless he first binds the strong man, and then he will plunder his house.

      28“Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30because they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”



      You are walking in DANGEROUS TERRITORY.


      You SERIOUSLY need good, sound teaching!!!


    • *sigh*

      Let’s dispense with the all-caps “shouting,” guys. It’s bad Internet manners.

      And let’s remember that none of us is 100% accurate (not even me). Only God is.

      He’s kind enough to tolerate us, so we should be kind to each other. Eph. 4:32

      Mote … thy brother’s eye … beam … thine own eye. Etc. Matt. 7:3

  19. The “Church” long ago gave the “Mystical Realm” over to the enemy when by ALL rights it BELONGS to us! You can’t get any more “Mystical” than rising from the dead! Jesus from Nazereth is THE Lord of the mystical… God says in Amos that He dosen’t do ANYTHING unless He first reveals it to His servants the Prophets… (by “Mystical” means…)
    The one sure sign that you’ve nailed the enimies camp right in the heart is that persecution will arise from divers places/sources… LA, PITN, the whole Branson crew, they are trying to peel back a veil that has covered the eyes of the “Church” for decades if not centuries… And judging by how stirred up the hornets nest is, I’d say that these guys have been riddling the bullseye!

    • Indeed it seems to be this way. Today’s shock -in its full-blown irony- coming from a couple of ministries whose very mission is aimed at exposing apostasy. Basically jaw-dropping.

    • The Kingdom of God is in the spiritual/mystical realm. We worship God is spirit and in truth. Jesus words are spirit.
      What seems to be happening is that because some churches might be moving in the gifts of the Spirit, theyare automatically labeled “of the devil” by people who wrongfully assume Gods power is completely dead in todays church. And not only that, they believe God has purposely withdrawn His power, and has deprived His children of the Holy Spirits gifts for 2,000 years!
      It seems to me that these days, there is bias in the church, meaning that only the charismatics are held up to public scutiny. Maybe some of them deserve it, but that doesn’t make ALL charismatics “of the devil” On the other hand just because someone is not charismatic doesn’t automatically make him “safe” either.

      I’ve witnessed people look the other way from heretical teachings because they don’t operate in the gifts, but if they did, it would have been a whole new ball game.

      Our God is a supernatural God and wherever Jesus went there were manifestations of the spiritual realm. Some pleasant and some not so much. There were usually plenty of demons willing to create havoc, being sure to cause outbursts, shaking things up and putting on a good show.
      Being born again awakens us to the spirit realm, but some people prefer living their whole christian lives in their flesh.
      People want to deny Gods power and gifts. Not everybody speaks with other tongues. Some have a word of wisdom or a word of knowledge, but instead of giving God the credit and the glory, they keep it for themselves, because they believe all the gifts have ceased, so it must be by their own power they understand or know these things.
      We need to all get on the same program and believe the same things, rightly dividing the word of truth. We need to get into Gods program and realise/acknowledge that Gods gifts are still operating today.

    • To: To God be The Glory….( And everyone else with ears to hear !!! )

      Your above BLOG is right on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      The HOLY SPIRIT is NOT DEAD. BUT…Many churches ARE DEAD because






      So many pulpits are filled with “HIRELINGS” who are afraid of the people!!

      They have NO anointing. NO revelation of the WORD that comes by the Spirit.

      They “steal” messages from each other, rather than seek God in the

      QUIET PLACE in order to HEAR HIS HEART. IT IS PITIFUL !!!!!!!!!

      JESUS did EVERYTHING as a MAN anointed by THE SPIRIT of GOD !!!

      This CHRISTIAN LIFE can NOT…

      did you hear me…can NOT be lived as mere men. JESUS said in John 14:12

      12“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.










    • @Kirk, So glad you get it. You’re a breath of fresh air.
      So many well meaning God loving christians are being deceived and deprived of all God has for them. Jesus went to Heaven and promised us He wouldn’t leave us alone. He would come to us. How? By the person of the Holy Spirit. He came on Pentecost bearing gifts. Gifts that are to be used to minister to eachother’s needs in love. People want to walk their christianity out in the flesh, while the truth is, that we are battling a supernatural enemy in the spirit realm. But we are trying to fight him with our flesh.God wanted us to use His gifts, yet we ignore them and try to use our flesh and will power.

      .We give God glory when we do things people know no human being could have ever done on their own.

      Paul talks about the signs of a true minister. Does he leave out “dynamis” the power of God? He could have, but he always talks about Gods manifested power in all of his epistles, saying that its not in word onlythat we’re called to preach this gospel, but by the power of God and he includes it here as well.

      2 Cor 6;4

      “In all things approving ourselves as ministers of God:
      in much patience
      in afflictions
      in necessities
      in distresses
      in stripes
      in imprisonments
      in tumults
      in labours
      in watching, in fastings
      by pureness
      by knowledge
      by long suffering
      by kindness
      by the Holy Ghost
      by love unfeigned
      by the word of truth

      by the POWER “dynamis” OF GOD!

      by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and the left
      by honor and dishonor
      by evil report and good report
      as deceivers yet true
      as unknown, yet well known
      as dying and yet behold, we live!
      as chastened and not killed
      as sorrowful yet always rejoicing
      as poor, yet making many rich
      as having nothing, yet possessing all things

      You just can’t cut out the power of God and call it scriptural teaching. Its relied on all throughout the new testament. His power is here to help us as we work for Him. If you haven’t received the baptism of the Holy Spirit what are you waiting for?

    • To: to God be the Glory !!!

      Truly is amazing to me to see how much ignorance there is in THE CHURCH.



      So sad to see people who are NOT taught properly in the SCRIPTURES.

      Yet, it does NOT surprise me when the average teaching in MOST churches

      is ONLY 25 minute sermonettes and PRAYER in MOST churches is about

      2 minutes per service!!!!!!!! Russ Dizdar says the same thing & others !!!

      I have gone to various Churches to HEAR what is preached, SEE if the

      Spirit of God is invited to move in the services, LISTEN for any mention

      of REPENTANCE by Church leaders or members of congregation, and

      guess what…THE MAJORITY of CHURCHES ARE LUKE WARM !!!!!!!!

      Can anybody say…”L-A-O-D-I-C-E-A” ???

      Praise God there is a REMNANT like you “To God be The Glory” !!!

      God can SAVE … BY MANY … or by FEW !!!

      I would like to SEE MANY….but it just seems to be GOD’s WAY

      that HE CHOOSES “the small” and “weak things” and “foolish things”

      For His Greater Glory !!! 1 Corinthians 1:26-29….

      26For consider your calling, brethren, that there were not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble; 27but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong, 28and the base things of the world and the despised God has chosen, the things that are not, so that He may nullify the things that are, 29so that no man may boast before God. 30But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, 31so that, just as it is written,

      I will say I know how to stand on my own with respect to the WORD,

      But it is GREAT to see others LIKE YOU out there too….

      “Fighting the Good Fight of Faith”….

      “Wielding The Sharp Two-edged Sword of The Spirit”…

      “Living in DEPENDENCE upon The Spirit of God”…

      ……….and “Stomping on the Serpent’s head”.

      Romans 16:20

      20The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet.

      Always GLAD for your SPIRITUALLY MATURE input !!

      Like I always say,

      IF YOUR TEACHABLE…YOUR REACHABLE…that’s what I believe!

      Be Blessed!!!!


    • Hi Kirk,
      Thanks for the encouragement. Yes I get it.

      Think about it, if the gifts were done away with, who would benefit the most? Satan… On the other hand, if the gifts are for today, against whose kingdom do they fight? Satan again. So who do you think is behind this teaching that the gifts have ceased? Right…..

      One of the gifts of the Spirit, is discerning of spirits. If the gifts have been done away with, that means this one’s gone too. Well, have demons ceased? All we have to do is read the news paper to answer that question. Remember the man chewing off the other mans face, in Florida? So demons are still around. has God left the church defenceless? no. Hes given us gifts. We are told to “earnestly desire them” but then here come these bible teachers that say, no, don’t desire them, they have ceased, and anything supernatural you may experience is from Satan. Tell me into whose hand are they playing into? The enemy for sure. And hes laughing at all of the decieved Christians who have given up their power to fight him with.

      Also Kirk, do you remember Joshua and Caleb? The rest of the “congregation” out in the wilderness were ready to stone them because of their faith. When we
      manifest faith, it makes a lot of people mad. But not God.There were only two, out of that whole bunch.who took god at His word and believed. Faith always pleases God.

      Kirk, I love your zeal for the Lord, its contageous! You be blessed too.


  20. Eric W~
    Did you by chance notice that “Ken Silva pastor-teacher” has an area in Apprising Ministries that he (or the group) have dubbed “Semi-Satire”? Certainly adds to confusion as far as I’m concerned. So yeah… as you have said: how do you work with [any of] this?

    • LOL, what’s “semi-satire?” Is that a back door admission that “Well, yeah, this only kind of funny to some of us and tough luck otherwise.”

      I like good satire and good comedy as much as the next man and I just didn’t see it with that Star Trek bash the entire conference link. Heck, I’m even a Trek nerd so believe me there was plenty of benefit of the doubt there. 😉

      The pictures aren’t the problem. I could write any number of funny and good natured things to make that work.

      The comments that accompanied those pictures are clearly not meant in good, lighthearted fun. I read scorn, derision, and ill intended sarcasm. It’s a hit and run cheap shot bash.

      I’m offended as both a Christian and a Star Trek fan. 😉

      I just don’t think that’s the right way for Christians to handle each other and especially on a site (that no one’s ever heard of) calling themselves a discernment ministry no less. I’d never heard of them until that Trek picture made its round and I’ll never look at them again, either.

      How does satire even come into play when you’re discussing serious issues like the Bible, prophecy, or discernment and doctrinal issues? Does the phrase “too cute for words” mean anything?

      Nothing cut about any of that.

      I’ve been spoiled for too many years by people like Dave Hunt and T.A. McMahon and people like that. I’ve seen Dave with my own eyes get tears in his eyes when he’s been forced to take the Bible out and correct some kind of rank heresy and he has to name names and bring the thunder. When he would bring the thunder it was done in Christ’s love all the way.

      This Silva Trek picture bash thing couldn’t be further removed from that.

    • Here’s another easy example. Look how L.A. handles good natured humor and fun while discussing some REALLY serious stuff. Contrast that to this Silva Trek picture bash thing. ‘Nuff said. 🙂

  21. In regard to super soldiers or specifically getting people to carry out violent actions for an agenda.

    I had a thought. I don’t doubt that you could totally brainwash someone given enough time and the right facilities, but why bother? There are groups filled with hate all over the world. All you need to do is find a smart capable person with the right kind of hatred you are looking for, plant the seeds of dissent and open the doors to make the plan successful.

    So for example, do you create an entire plan for the world trade center bombings and risk getting caught or do you find a group or individual who hates us and turn a blind eye when they seek to buy explosives or plane tickets?

    The Batman shooter may have been given a government grant because they knew what he would use the money for.

    Government first gives you the poison so that you depend on them for the cure.

    • Pulled text from article regarding the Sikh temple shooter (Wade Page) that dovetails with the above thesis:
      Heidi Beirich, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s intelligence project, said Page had been on the group’s radar since 2000, when he tried to purchase goods from the National Alliance, a well-known hate group. She said the group has evidence that Page attended “hate events” around the country.

      “He was involved in the scene,” Beirich said.

      FBI Special Agent in Charge Theresa Carlson said Page was known to law enforcement authorities, but did not give details.

  22. “”

    So our state department will try and assuage India for violence, but classify Nigeria violence against Christians on Christmas day as not being related to hatred of a certain religion, but for reasons of having political motivations for social change, meaning they want Sharia law. Ridiculous.

  23. The US has 90 guns for every 100 people, the highest percentage in the world. Mexico is at 15 per 100 which puts it at 22nd of the 59 countries that there’s data on.

    The Second Amendment: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Japan admitted that after they bombed Pearl Harbor they didnt sail toward our west coast as they knew most Americans owned guns.

    The POTUS and the Sec want to take our guns away using a UN treaty to do so:

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