Hi Rose – I couldn’t agree more. our 2nd amendment rights were put into the Constitution for a reason. History bears this out as the first step a dictator or tyrannical government does is to round up the guns! If only someone had been packing when Holmes went on a rampage, the death toll might have been lower. One more thought. If the government would round up the guns, the criminals would still procure them through the black market, leaving the average American defenseless. L.A.
That’s what so stupid about some of our laws. IMO, if someone can serve our country in the military and we trust them for all that goes with that…at the VERY LEAST…THEY at the very least should be allowed…at discretion…to have a concealed handgun or something. With no exceptions in terms of locations.
They can ahead overseas and be trained killers in a 10 year slog that has no in end in sight and handle all kinds of high tech weaponry but when they come back here they can’t even be trusted with a concealed sidearm.
Right. Makes perfect sense. :roll:
It’s unreal. I’m going to post something longer in another area here that dovetails with this here for the sake of organization.
I agree with your sentiments, Eric. But the laws aren’t stupid per se – they are planned. It’s like this:
“Sure, you have the right to bear arms, but you can’t take it into the bank, or the post office, or anywhere they’re serving alcohol, or into a theatre, or onto a military preserve, or into the entire state of Illinois…”
In other words, you have the right to bear arms, but not here.
Yet again we have one of these tragedies where we learn after the fact that there were a billion red flags, balls dropped, and obvious things ignored that just boggle my mind and frankly, infuriate me.
Why do people comment to Rose’s comments when all she dose is argue. Lol It seems like you have to have the last say. Been reading all your comments, and it seems there’s an argument on all of them especially when L.A agree with you you still have to argue your point. Let it be you got the attention you wanted. Let’s not be so hasty your argument is with and not with us. Plus this blog is supposed to be a community blog where we can share are idea’s and not argue with other breather n, and sister’s in Christ but to lift each other up, and to praise God for the works he’s done for us let’s stop being selfish. Also L.A I cant wait to get my copy of watcher’s 4 sounds like a lot of research went into this, thank you for what you do.
What are you talking about Jeremiah? Rose doesn’t argue?
She has valid points about gun control and the 2nd amendment. The Obama administration will use the massacre to pass the UN small arms bill therefore by passing congress and destroying our second amendment rights. The new world knows it has to disarm america. Its all part of the plan.
The liberal media is wining about how the attacker purchased 6000 rounds of 223 legally. Where were they when Janet Napolitano and Home Land security purchased 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition this year. What in the world do you need 450 million rounds for?
They are preparing for something soon you can count on it.
Colorado media is also stating that the alleged killer was involved in several mind altering studies at the University of Colorado.
I cant wait to see what comes of that information.
Many times ithe Bible it says those who live by the sword wll die by the sword. I believe in the right to bear arms, but I don’t have any. If we put our trust in them, we shall reap it. I think that is why we have come to this pivotal point. This nation is soon to be under the burden of a cruel master. We shall be under the Lord Jesus Christ.
Luk 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Luk 22:37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
Luk 22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
Rose, How would you explain these scriptures? Revl.13;10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the PATIENCE and the FAITH of the saints.
math 26/5252 Then said Jesus unto him,(after Peter just chopped off his ear) Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Jesus said exactly what is echoed by the Spirit in Revls
All those living in the last days who take up the sword, shall die by the sword And the scriptures can not be broken.
It is VERY clear that as Christians we are not to kill/harm other humans… BUT, the THINGS that are coming upon this Earth ARE NOT HUMAN!!! so if ET shows up… shoot ’em ’cause IT comes straight from Hell… that goes for 6 fingered Giants too!!!
5 A nd surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man’s brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil
Christ’s Ministry of Vengeance is not given specifically to the Church. The angels and armies of Heaven are quite another matter. So for the most part we can focus on lovingkindness and rescue, on the front lines, while the angels provide support — just the opposite of the way of the enemy and the world.
Christ’s 7th ministry rest squarely with the authorities. In the church, it extends to the elders in council. They have a duty to protect the congregation.
In the home the duty of protection rests with the parents. Woe be to the parent that will not protect their family — before Almighty God.
When Christ stood to quote from Isaiah, He stopped just short of the ministry of vengeance.
cp. the 7 Spirits of God, which are the 7 Horns and 7 Eyes of the Lamb … and His crown and jewels if you will receive the revelation.
There is a time and place for war. And some instruments in a great house are fitted for destruction. We are made for better…. But a ruler, like David, has an obligation to establish and exact justice. As does Jesus.
When a Christian is an authority the carry the additional burden of Honor and Justice and Zeal before our Lord Sabaoth (the Lord of Host) — Christ in his uniform — the garments of vengeance.
And for this cause, there is both hell and the Lake of Fire.
I thought I would rewrite my comment since it was a little mangled when I wrote it.
My question is to Rose,
Jesus told his disciples to get a sword, as in the scripture you quoted, but when Peter went to use it, instead of depending on God for his safety the way he should have, he was rebuked. In the garden when Jesus sweat great drops of blood, he also chided Peter for not praying.
Rose, How would you explain these scriptures?
Rev.13;10: ” He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the PATIENCE and the FAITH of the saints.”
Math 26:52 “Then said Jesus unto him,(after Peter just chopped off his ear) Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.”
Jesus said exactly what is echoed by the Holy Spirit in the book of Rev.
The Book of Rev is instructions for those alive during this perilous time .All those living in the last days who take up the sword, shall die by the sword Thats what the Bible says, and the scriptures can not be broken
The Holy Spirit seems to be giving us special instructions here not to take up the sword, but to believe in God for our safety and protection.
“It is VERY clear that as Christians we are not to kill/harm other humans… BUT, the THINGS that are coming upon this Earth ARE NOT HUMAN!!! so if ET shows up… shoot ‘em ’cause IT comes straight from Hell… that goes for 6 fingered Giants too!!!”
I don’t think bullets will have much if any of an effect on those but while I’m yelling rebukes I’m sure I and many other people will be doing exactly that anyways. Can’t hurt. ;)
Unlike Hollywoods version of Silver bullets, evidently Copper bullets are the key, well to killing Nephilim anyways… They REALLY do sell them for just such a purpose!!! Copper appears to have some unusual properties…
“I think that Tom Horn and Raiders News have stories/video testimony from front line troops who have had to face/fight Nephilim/Giants in underground caverns and caves etc… see the book “Long Walker.”” :shock: I’ll track that book down.
“that goes for 6 fingered Giants too!!!”” That did make me chuckle when I read that as well. :lol:
Hey people – seems something is missing with all this talk about the guns, and the 2nd Amendment stuff in relationship to being followers of Jesus ( notice I DIDN’T write the word CHRISTIAN here ) .. Seems like all the talk about the right to bear arms , and how we should protect ourselves from all the crazies , or all the Super Soldiers ( which I FULLY believe there are some ) in our communities, or to protect ourselves from the James Holmes, or that Lougner guy, or Columbine stuff, or god forbid, our next door neighbors who secretly have a arsenal of dog poop waiting to leave on our lawns , it seems like all the DISREGARD of Who Jesus is has taken over with a vengeance , both here on the blog , and probably where ever you go where people talk about gun control issues in, and out of the Church body. Not the church walls, but the MAIN church .
Before anyone decides to ” put me out to pasture ” by telling me to quit ” quibbling ” with you, or that I am some naieve , stupid , punk teenager who was once souled out to Satanism ( and should be eliminated from your communities, or even from your face because I believe differently), I would hope, if you are who you say you are in Christ , that what JESUS did in the days He walked the roads sharing Truth without any form of weaponry EXCEPT for LOVE ( walking ALONE, too, mind you ALONE !) WOULD be what you pattern your lives after – it don’t matter a hill of beans ,people, if you believe you should be packing a gun or not.
It don’t matter a hill of beans if you believe you should have the right to bear arms – it MATTERS that Jesus walked alone, without arms ( and I ain’t meaning fingers attached to arms here people !) most of the time on roads that had probably people like some of you, who firmly think guns should be allowed to protect ourselves waiting to ambush Him as he walked.
What stands out about that, and sorry about my soap box here, is my getting biblically of who Jesus is, and that HE NEVER had a gun (although He could have if he had the desire, after all He created this universe, so HE could have created a gun with just a breath of inspiration ,couldn’t He? ) to protect himself from those that He came up against.
He didn’t protect Himself, or people He loved by VIOLENCE – HE did it by LOVE!!.. speaking it, LIVING IT , showing HOW to live it daily, every frickin day of His ministry to broken and sinful people, like ME, and like YOU.. So when you might be trying to rationalize your thoughts about owning, or using a gun, or knife, or even a ” poop bomb ” of dog crap, think about what Jesus did, because THAT IS what He said for us to pattern our lives after – If you have forgotten what the Bible says, because you’re to preoccupied sometimes with stating your case about whatever you might be passionate about , gun control , 2nd Amendment rights, ect, I would hope you would think about what God says :
“Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”
I would MUCH rather listen to Jesus telling me how to live, than Rose, or LA Marzulli, or some other “Joe Blow ” down the road, (* no offense Rose, or LA , or Joe Blow ) and being how HE wants me to live because guns in the hands of sinful people won’t get me into heaven, but my understanding of WHO Jesus is, and my trusting in Him alone by faith, will .. I trust Jesus a heck of alot more than I trust people carrying guns to get me there faster than I wanna be there..
Just my rant for the day.. and … I will be back … becauseI am not one to run off and hide when guns, or poop bombs are lobbed at me in how I speak out about what I know, and WHO I know , and what KING I am SOULED out to today.
You have probably read that Jesus said if you love me you will obey me. (John 14:21)
And it is written in the scripture that he told his disciples to buy weapons. And they loved Him, so they obeyed Him.
Jesus didn’t need a weapon; He had 10,000 legions of angels all bearing weapons at His command. He didn’t need a sword – He had an army.
I know you are very uncomfortable with me. May I suggest that it may not be me, but the scripture that troubles you? I know you are a believer, but you have come out of a very dark background and may still have “attachments” that drive you mad every time you hear God’s word. I do not mean to offend you – this is not unusual. If you deal with the attachments, the offense and rage will go away.
Uh, Rose? First thing, its NOT probably that I have read the Bible, it IS what I have read every day, sometimes MANY times a day, because its NEW every morning, and I find my way in life now days, from what His truth says, not yours, not anyone elses., Second, for you to tell me that ” Attachments drive me mad every time I read Gods Word”, and that scriptures trouble me?
Uh, Rose – hear my heart.. its THINGS LIKE what you just wrote to me, without knowing me other than what you believe or think about someone outside your comfort zone – it’s THAT which troubles my spirit because your ability to point fingers at who, and what you might be bothered by ( ME, or other REAL believers in spite of where they came from) all in the name of religion, and makes me sad to think you can truly believe in the God you are trying hard to get people to think you love, and serve if, and how you respond, or act when something isn’t hitting the mark of what Gods Truth is.. I have to ask, after I have just sat and asked God to soften my heart , but where is Jesus in your comment, Rose? Where , instead of pointing fingers at me for how I once lived, are your fingers, your sin, your need to be forgiven, because it sure aint pointed at yourself right now.. that is how I feel, truthfully..
LA, sorry man, but if you so choose to see how these words that Rose is writing to me this morning are not on the attack , and think nothing of them, thats pretty lame, if you ask me. She doesnt know me, yet she writes that I am troubled with the Scripture because of what background I came out of? She doesnt know me, yet she says I am driven to madness because I don’t understand the Word of God? Or that if I just deal with the attachments as she so calls them, I would not be so rageful? Trust me, rage is something I know full well, because the ENEMY is rageful, and when he sees reason to rage on ,and on, and on , with Truth of Gods Word being lived out in someone who is faithful to Christ, even coming out of the darkness, he does it even in the lives of people who think they understand the Bible, yet have no clue as to the way to live in that Truth with those that need to know Gods Truth about being loved, and accepted because they are sinners, like everyone else that walk this earth.
Sorry, folks, its ” attachments ” of SELF PRIDE , that seem to hit me square in the heart when reading these words in comment, and honestly, I am no worse, or better than you are Rose, but this attachment of pride needs to be dealt with because if you can attack someone, with that kind of judgmental attitude, and piousness , you need to understand what Gods mercy is, and what Grace He has given to me, and everyone else, in the natural state of being a BORN sinner.
So yes, Rose, your ability to offend as you wrote, is not unusual it seems, and is sadly, great in practice, so as you suggested to me to deal with my attachments which I know were taken from me when I became a FOLLOWER OF CHRIST , I suggest to you that you let God be God, and let His judgement fall on me, not yours..
I will attach this prayer, if I might be so bold.. Not just for you, but for me, and everyone else. Lord Jesus, that YOU are our God, and we bow to YOU alone, I bring my self to you right now, to ask forgiveness for the attitude, or attachments of sin that I was born into. I pray that as I bring these things, and anyone else brings theirs, that your judgement alone will stir the hearts of every person alive, to stand before you, and ask for Your healing, and cleansing from ALL unrighteousness. Lord, Soften the wounds of people wounded, from unjust comments from those they might not know them, and bring compassion, and understanding without criticism from people whose lives are not showing the character of Christ in who they speak to, or interact with. Lord, rise up in place of the enemy this VERY DAY, and speak to the hearts of those that need to know Your Burning LOVE. Amen and Amen
TGBTG – A HEARTY AMEN from the peanut gallery here this morning!!
If people take laws into their own hands, and go against the WORD of GOD, the STRONG WORD of GOD, its then that situations like this experience in Colorado, Kentucky, or Timbucktoo that grows out of hand, and people, bearing (attitudes of harm) – I mean bearing arms, (shame on me) , stirs up our communities, with attitudes that clearly are not what God has done in His own directions in the Bible. HE says, what you have shared TGBTG, but also to walk in faith, pray without ceasing, and let HIM be GOD, and to let Him be the judge, and because He is the judge, HE will give us the ways, and instruction in which to walk – and its OUR heads that will be held accountable, not someone else telling us we are right, or wrong in how we live, or beleive. Ok, so I am just some cocky teenager, (from the dark side according to what I was told), but I know I am in agreement with you, TG, because I follow after Jesus and His Word, not man or woman who try to defend this country, or amendments with strong opinions, and stirring up the pot so as to incur rage from those whom are addressed.
Rose, anyone can plainly see that Brick has no problem with God’s word. He understands it and explains it in a way that can only come from knowing the Lord of whom he speaks. There is no rage in his comments, I don’t know where you are getting that idea from, but something you did miss is insecurity. From being mistreated by other christians All he wants, is what we all want. To share God’s truth, and what God taught him and is in the process of teaching him, and to be included here with everybody else. And maybe even loved, just for being who he is, a very important member of the body of Christ, the same as us.
I think if you go back and reread his comments,though you may not like them, you’ll find they are open and honest with you Rose, and isn’t that also according to scripture?
Math 18/15 “If thy brother shall tresspass against thee go and tell him his fault…”
He is obeying Jesus, Rose. We are all commanded to love and to be patient with one another. Some of ourcomments can be used to justify ourselves. If we’re not careful we can hurt and wound one another, trying to make ourselves look good, or “right”
I find Brick absolutely refreshing. I for one love his honesty. The things he is saying are not meant to hurt but are coming out of an honest heart, doing the best he can to please the Lord who bought him..
“‘I need to repeat this: before Jesus went to pray until drops of blood appeared on his forehead, he told His disciples to obtain weapons for their own defense”‘
Rose, I have a problem when you take scripture out of context. You emphasize Jesus said to take swords, but remember he also told them to take purse and script.
You emphasize. swords but you leave out where Jesus rebuked Peter for using it and says all those who take up the sword shall die by the sword. The same scripture repeated in the book of Rev. What don’t you understand about what Jesus said? Sometimes we can take only the portions of scripture that fits in with our preconceived ideas. Do you really think that Jesus would have approved of Peter stabbing somebody that came to arrest him? It goes against everything he ever taught them.
You said Jesus could have called 10,000 legions of angels, and couldn’t we now do that too as blood washed spirit filled believers who he has promised will do greater works than he did? But then how can scripture be fulfilled?
Jesus taught them “resist not him who is evil” Thats why he rebuked Peter when he used force, because it goes against everything he taught them. What about the OT prophets, did they use force to get away, or rather did they depend on God for their safety, with the attitude, if they die they die.
Whats different now? You said, “none of this is new” Exactly!
Did any of the apostles resist being put to death? No, not one. It would be contrary to what Jesus taught them.
Luke 12/4 Dont be afraid of those who kill the body and have nothing more that they can do”…
Our lives in this world shouldn’t be that precious. Its not about us.
Rev “They overcame by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives even unto death”
“Beloved love not the world neither the things that are in the world, if any man loves the world the love of the Father is not in him.”1 John
If we think that we can protect ourselves with guns, we are mistaken. I’m think of a cop who although he had a gun, thats not what saved his life, but a little black bible in his shirt pocket, absorbed the bullet. Thats our God who did that!
TGBTG – Brother, or sister, not sure what you are, lol, but you TOTALLY get what , and WHO JESUS is where as some others totally DON”T get His message, or what He asks of us so clearly in the BIBLE. ROCK ON , fellow soldier – you make me proud to be a Follower of Christ, where sadly some others make me not want to attach my name to their following. Sorry.. thats how it is, but then again Jesus told us that we will be persecuted for our faith – and He didn’t just say it would be people of the dark side of the occult, ya know?
You are loved. You are special. I care very much about about what happens to you and your feelings. We are in agreement, we are the same.
I appreciate the comments from the” peanut gallery” today.
You keep fighting for truth and don’t let anyone discourage you. Sometimes the truth hurts, but be that as it may, truth is good. And its refreshing, and you’re refreshing and a bright spot in the comments. We always know we can count on you to tell it like it is.
I do get discouraged when i have to try to explain, or justify my faith now in God, to those in our Host’s system, when all they might remember from her walking out of that lifestyle from before Birth, is how christians are nothing but evil incarnate, or hypocritical in who they believe in. I have had to, as a few others in our ” hallway ” have had to, pick ourselves up off the literal floor from being so ashamed of fellow christians with only a title attached to their name, and not from complete dependance on Jesus to change their prideful ways – just like me sometimes. I am not perfect, NEVER HAVE BEEN , neither is our Host , who will tell you up front thats the case with her. But one thing we all hold close to the heart is knowing Jesus didnt die for the perfect, or one that has bible passages memorized from here to there, and back again and ready to tell it to those that they believe need to hear. Sometimes memorizing is a cop out if you ask me, when doing it for the wrong reason, and for not understanding the whole passage, not just the parts that might be taken and distorted out of ignorance.
I get discouraged.. yea.. big time.. but like I just told someone in our ” system ” just now, when I first prayed about coming here to read, and to comment if the Holy Spirit led me to do that, I am not led to walk away from this blog or commenting because even if it sucks to read some things here, and it does, truth is that God is about showing HIMSELF stronger , in the lives of everyone that comes here to read or speak. If someone comes, iwth an attitude of doing what He asks, that is totally right on, but if there are those that come to cause dissention in the Body of Christ ( is that the right word, dissention? ) , then HE knows that ,too ,because in all things, HE knows our hearts more than we even know them – good , bad, ugly, believing or not. thats the TRUTH I know, and I have to live with my heart in whatever way I breathe here on earth. I dont like Truth sometimes, it sucks, it burns bad, but its for my own good when I choose, CHOOSE to listen to Him speak. And it burns BAD, BAD , BAD when I purposely, or not, ignore it by using just -if- I’s to skirt around the issues that make truth harder to hear because of our selfishness, or sin or pride. I need to get off the PC here, my time on the “system clock “was over a long time ago.. but luckily, I’ve been granted more time by the next house member with computer priveleges today. I will reward her with ice cream, and time on the swing set today which will make her a happy little 3 year old.
We have to endure Brick. We have to have patience, thats what Paul told them in the book of Hebrews, when they too were feeling discouraged. We have to have patience, and you have proven that is something you certainly have, to have come this far in your life.
You have been called to a different walk, a unique walk, but you’re still heading to the same place as the rest of us. I’m sure the Lord is very proud of you for what you have endured this far,more than the rest of us and yet you’e still following him. Still trying to obey him. Still unashamedly speaking the truth.
Everybody gets discouraged, Brick. Look at the life of paul and what he was forced to endure for the Lord. As soon as we start speaking truth we become a target.
Paul went to prison and all his “christian” friends forsook him except a few. I’m sure that had to hurt him.But I bet that before all that happened, they were all hanging around Paul, and talking really impressive christian lingo with the rest of them.
Remember when Jesus said to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves? Now, that also encompasses christian circles too. Remember what I told you about fruit? You can’t fake fruit. Its either good or bad. You can’t fake the love and tenderness of Christ either. You either have it or you don’t. But I know that you do, Brick.
Thanks, TGB.. I actually love the story of Paul/ Saul.. He reminds me …of me, and the one I was created to protect. If it hadn’t been for her patience and stubborn love shown to me ( and the others inside that have come to be set free from satanism ) even when I was trying to destroy her, and her faith, I would never have been able to finally let go of my own selfishness, and ugly pride, and yea, rage that was thicker than fleas in my heart. She kept on, keeping on, showing me that to Love meant to hurt, and when hurting people hurt, they lash out even worse than they normally would. I was no different than probably anyone else in the world when confronted with their own personal sin . I just see myself today, free from those chains ya know? Free to be who I am in Christ, and if someone wants to lock me up, and throw away the key because I love Jesus more than I loved my sin that day, and today, then I will willingly open up that jail cell door and walk in voluntarily because contrary to some people, I am a changed person because I know Jesus took all that old ” me ” and wiped it clean. Thats the NEW man I am , and thats my final thought.
One more scripture I’d like to add to my comments above, is this scripture
:Mathew10/23 “When they persecute you in this city FLEE ye to another, for verily I say unto you ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of man be come.”
Luke 21/21 Then let them which are in Judea FLEE to the mountains…..
Notice he didn’t say arm yourselves and fight back. They were taught to flee. Jesus himself avoided them when things go ttoo hot and the times he thought he might be in physical danger, he hid himself. Or he didn’t go to Judea if he thought they would be there.He avoided certain situations that could get out of hand. But sometimes avoidance is not enough. When they came after the disciples,Jesus taught them that if that happened they were to flee. We saw Paul doing that all the time.They all knew in those days, that persecution was to be expected. We have forgotten that in America. If we stand up for Jesus, especially in a bold way, we can expect persecution. Satan will see to that.
So if you want to speak for gun rights, then do that. But to take one verse in the whole Bible to make your case that Jesus agrees with you is misleading, IMO
I’ve been thinking about you a lot, I hope you’re doing well. I miss you and the truth you spoke. Your posts were always such a bright spot, so refreshing and real. You have won a permanent place in my heart. Just know that you’re in my prayers and that I love you very much in the Lord.
A connection exists between Jared Loughner and James Holmes beyond the mind control aspect.
George W. Bush clandestinely authorized American agents to sell weapons to Mexican drug cartels, primarily the Zetas, and then blame American gun merchants of providing these weapons to these dangerous people. This plan was called Fast and Furious – but it backfired. Attorney General Eric Holder refused to hand over documents concerning aspects of this operation and the House of Representatives ruled to hold him in contempt of Congress – the Defense Dept. refused to arrest him, though (so much for the will of the people).
One of the people Loughner killed was Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll who was investigating the arms trafficking. Many believe he was the intended target of the shooting.
They needed another plan.
On May 21st of this year DHS and the FBI issued warned of terrorists planning to attack movie theatres.
“An early April 2012 suicide bombing of a theater in Somalia and a violent
extremist communication advocating attacks on US theaters highlight terrorists’
continued interest in attacking such venues. Although we have no specific or credible
information indicating that terrorists plan to attack theaters in the United States, terrorists
may seek to emulate overseas attacks on theaters here in the United States because
they have the potential to inflict mass casualties and cause local economic damage.”
It goes back further than this. Eric Holder was directly in charge of the murders in Oklahoma City under Janet Reno and he has been involved in the attempts to eradicate the 2nd amendment rights for over 20 years. He is a long-term justice department insider.
This article is loaded even for MSM. Take the time to read it.
Yet again, even enough details are coming out in the MSM that really should make people take pause. A few key points in this thing that dovetail back to my earlier point about how there’s no excuses for this guy to be sold a gun and the rest of it but for me this following detail confirms what I think most of us knew anyway: Demonic inspiration at least.
I’m pro Second Amendment but I’m pro Second Amendment with some common sense.
A billion and one obvious warning signs and red flags that people ignored and we find out AFTER the tragedy happens. As usual.
From the above link:
“Mr. Rotkovich called Mr. Holmes to set up an orientation time, and heard an “incoherent, bizarre” voice-mail message, which he described as “very guttural.” “There was all kinds of low groaning in the middle,” Mr. Rotkovich said. He called twice more and left three messages. The range never heard from Mr. Holmes.”
^^ I’m sure Russ Dizdar right off the bat is can tell us all about that.
This isn’t rocket science, folks: Would you sell something like an AR-15…or any firearm…to something like that?
More from that article:
“Back at Mr. Holmes’s apartment, on the third floor of an old brick building, techno music blared, startling his neighbors below, who knocked on his door and called police to complain. The music played in an endless loop, as police descended on the mayhem unfolding at the theater.
At 1 a.m., the booming beat in Mr. Holmes’s home went silent.”
Uh-huh. I don’t expect the MSM to tell us but I’d bet big money there’s plenty of occultic tell tale signs in that apartment.
I saw the Prophecy in the News mentioned above in this blog and will be ordering all the Watcher tapes from them this week. What sealed the deal for me was an apparent interview with Howard Storm whose near death experience changed the way I live my life and how I think about God. We put Him in such a small religious box. Anyway I was initially concerned about seeing that there would be NDE info on a Watcher video, thinking it would all be considered demonic related (and in some cases I am sure they are). But of the possible 1,000 NDE stories I’ve read/watched/listened to, I regard Howard’s as the most emotional and geniune of all. Thank you LA for adding him to your video. I’m psyched now!
Eric, I watched it on a DirecTV satellite station, not sure what channel, maybe God TV? I can look later if you’d like me to be exact.
Richard, I own the book and reading it is what changed my religious outlook. In fact I read it about every two months, highlight new items, lend out to friends etc. I was so taken with Howard’s story that I had to see him in person and drove 3 hours to Ohio to go to his church one Sunday. Such a humble man. If you are into reading NDE experiences, give Sarah Menet’s book a try “There is no Death”. Also very inspiring. Her story is #2 for me, after Howard’s. :)
Julie: I watched PITN on Saturday night on GEB at 11pm here in the East and I saw a PITN program from well over a year ago, not LA Marzulli part 2 like I should have.
I’m trying to see if others had the same issue or not. Very strange. The same thing happened a few weeks ago. Instead of showing Bill Salus part 2 like they should have they repeated part 1 and that was that.
PITN on Facebook told me: “Due to the amount of time and energy Branson took we opted to re-run The Final Prophecies show from last May.” That’s cool. As long as everyone knows what’s going on and why then that’s great. That’s a great DVD btw. :)
James Holmes was setting up his insanity defense…so obvious. When he claims insanity, it will then put the burden on the prosecution to prove that he is competant to stand trial. I believe that young man is crazy, but I also believe that he committed a willful act of terror against those people and is also competant to stand trial.
Great catch. “Gun Ownership Mandatory In Kennesaw, Georgia — Crime Rate Plummets”
“The city’s population grew from around 5,000 in 1980 to 13,000 by 1996 (latest available estimate). Yet there have been only three murders: two with knives (1984 and 1987) and one with a firearm (1997). After the law went into effect in 1982, crime against persons plummeted 74 percent compared to 1981, and fell another 45 percent in 1983 compared to 1982.
“…With all the attention that has been heaped upon the lawful possession of firearms lately, you would think that a city that requires gun ownership would be the center of a media feeding frenzy. It isn’t. The fact is I can’t remember a major media outlet even mentioning Kennesaw. Can you?
“The reason is obvious. Kennesaw proves that the presence of firearms actually improves safety and security. This is not the message that the media want us to hear. They want us to believe that guns are evil and are the cause of violence.
“The facts tell a different story. What is even more interesting about Kennesaw is that the city’s crime rate decreased with the simple knowledge that the entire community was armed. The bad guys didn’t force the residents to prove it. Just knowing that residents were armed prompted them to move on to easier targets. Most criminals don’t have a death wish. “
I watched your inspiring interview with Gary Stearman of Prophecy In The News. Great job. It inspired me in such a way that I actually found myself lifted in the spiirit when I saw the portions of the Ephod.
I love the Ephod because it was God’s way of communication with the Israelites in the Old Testament We serve such a mysterious God. He gives us snippets and we have to thirst to get the full story. I think this is why I love mysteries and try to solve them. The satisfaction is in the journey to solve the pieces of a puzzle.
The story just brought back memories of when I first read about the Ephod in the Bible. You see, I like precious stones and gems. I use them in creating my jewelry pieces. The stones are also mentioned in the Book of Revelation when describing Heaven. Each one has a prophetic significance.
Now to hear that there is a link between the Ephod and the Torah Codes! It’s thrilling and exciting. I bought the Watchers 4 a few moments ago from Amazon.
Thank you LA for adding another layer to my studies.
Something I’ve considered is that the bodies we have now are more like larva… And we may have bodies more like jewels in the hereafter.
Could go a lot of ways, for instance we could have more than one body to use, or we could have some protective suits that are more jewel like.
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
6 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
7 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Interesting side note. One of my accounts said that he was at the gun store when the shooter James Holmes was at the gun store buying his assault rifle. He said he told the gun clerk I cant believe you sold him that rifle he was saying things and making gestures that made “no sense” what so ever. He said the clerk had no comment.
We should all commit to keeping our second amendment rights. If this nut knew that their was a possibility that some people were armed, this tragedy may have been averted. (or not, he is probably demonic possesses)
This is what happened to our 2nd amendment rights in New Orleans during Katrina, and it will SHOCK you. Our military take an oath to protect and defend our constitution, but these troops turn their backs on the oath.
An Ephod is a ceremonial religious Breastplate worn by the Hebrew High Priest, it has 12 stones on it representing the 12 tribes of Israel… it also has a pocket which holds the “Urim and Thumin” (sp.?) Which are used to cast lots.
@ Kimberly: According to the KJV Bible, the Ephod is separate from the breastplate:
…onyx stones, and stones to be set in the ephod and in the breastplate.
And these are the garments which they shall make: a breastplate, an ephod, a robe, a skillfully woven tunic, a turban, and a sash. So they shall make holy garments for Aaron your brother and his sons, that he may minister to Me as priest.
[ The Ephod ] “They shall take the gold, blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and the fine linen,
and they shall make the ephod of gold, blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and fine woven linen, artistically worked.
And the intricately woven band of the ephod, which is on it, shall be of the same workmanship, made of gold, blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and fine woven linen.
And you shall put the two stones on the shoulders of the ephod as memorial stones for the sons of Israel. So Aaron shall bear their names before the LORD on his two shoulders as a memorial.
[ Making the Breastplate ] And he made the breastplate, artistically woven like the workmanship of the ephod, of gold, blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and of fine woven linen.
The Ephod encompasses the front and back and shoulders of the created “clothing” holding the breastplate with it’s 12 stones symbolizing the 12 tribes of Israel. It is hung over the tunic worn by the Priests.
I posted a video of the “High Priest and the Ephod” just a few comments up from this posting.
James Holmes, the alleged “Joker” gunman, described his fascination with altered states of mind in a lecture to other students, and dosed up on prescription medication before the atrocity, it emerged on Sunday. cont,,,,
Here is a link to a well researched documentary that reveals the Hindu pagan roots of yoga and how many former yoga practitioners have discovered and now are warning about the darker side of yoga. Yoga involves inducing altered states and invocation to Hindu gods and spirits.
Gods of the New Age
The definitive work on the New Age Movement. Explores its birth, its invasion, and its effect on western society. It explores the pagan roots of eastern mysticism, meditation, Yoga (The New Age), and more. The seemingly innocuous devices used range from Yoga (The New Age) meditation to a belief in reincarnation. We are given an extraordinary inside glimpse into an eerie world of cult mentality and mindless obedience, and we see how an outright attack against traditional beliefs has been successfully launched. The film covers the chilling parallels between the belief structure in today’s New Age subculture and that in Hitler’s Third Reich two generations ago. Link to video following:
In regards LA’s comment that the enemy has tried to exterminate the Jewish people in an attempt to stop the prophetic word of God; I do believe the enemy has without doubt tried to wipe out the Jewish people, but why? To also kill prophecy? Would it not be a lot easier, if he wanted to do that, to simply take a look at the Book of Revelations and not play ball? After all, If there was no anti-Christ for instance, it would achieve the same result. Yeah, I am am probably way off the mark here in my understanding of Satan, but if someone told me that I was going to do something that was not in my interest, I would not do it. Game over.