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9th of Av: A repost from the Cosmic Chess Match

Posted by lamarzulli on July 22, 2012

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by

L. A. Marzulli

I decided to re-post this chapter from The Cosmic Chess Match to further discuss the 9th of Av.  In no way am I date setting or promulgating the view that something will happen on this date.  I am however illustrating that this date has historically been one of calamity for the Jewish people and therefore we should keep an eye on it.   The 9th of Av is a week from today!  L.A.

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Chapter 20: The Ninth of AV!

This chapter is unique because it spans thousands of years in its scope. What we will learn is that the Fallen One has attempted to liquidate, kill off, exterminate, terminate, and bring to an end the race of people known as the Jews.  He has done this on more than one occasion and that is the subject of this chapter.

He has sought the destruction of the Jewish people throughout history and has even attempted it in modern times, as we will soon discover.  He has been relentless in these attempts because he believes that if he can wipe the Jews out, he will win. How?  Because if the Jews don’t exist as a people, a nation, and a tribe, then prophecy will not be fulfilled; if prophecy that the Most High God has stated will happen for whatever reason does not, then the Fallen One has proved the Most High God to be a liar and thus he would win the match, or perhaps I should say rematch because the match was decided on Calvary two thousand years ago: the victor being the Most High God.  Of course this is NOT going to happen, but the Fallen One is so full of hate and, while he is an evil genius, his hubris has clouded his judgment and so he still believes that he can win the rematch, even though there is no rematch being played!

There are those who wonder about the hatred toward the Jews.  We see it today, as we hear from Mahmoud Ahmedinejhad, who continually spreads his vitriolic comments toward Israel on almost a weekly basis.  I have covered this in Politics, Prophecy & the Supernatural, so I will not go into it here, but surely we can agree that anti-Semitism is on the rise.  Here are a handful of quotes that the president of Iran has hurled toward Israel:

“Israel is a dry withered tree, soon to be plucked up by its roots and thrown into the sea.”[1]

“Israel is a cancer soon to be irradiated.”[2]

“Israel should be wiped off the map.”[3]

The point I’m making is that unless we understand that the Fallen One spawns these supernatural forces and, I believe, fans the flames of this hatred, we will never understand it.

In short, we are watching in real-time the end game of the Fallen One being played out on the world stage.  He is trying to drag as many people as he can with him to his final destination, that of the lake of fire.  However, in the meantime, and I believe it is in the near future, he will try once again to annihilate the Jews.

The Supernatural hatred of the Jews

Why the deep hatred of the Jewish people?  Why is anti-Semitism raising its ugly head in the modern era, in the 21st century?  According to the latest statistics, anti-Semitism is on the rise.[4]

It just doesn’t make sense, does it?  The root of the hatred, in my opinion, against the Jewish people is that the Jews are the Most High God’s chosen people, and it is because of this that the Fallen One hates them with a vengeance and wants to wipe them off the face of the earth!

There are some Christians who say that the Jews lost this privilege—that of being the chosen people—when they rejected their Messiah.  This is called replacement theologyand, in my opinion, it is a heretical teaching.

In short, replacement theology says that the church is now Israel and all the promises that the Most High God gave to Israel now belong to the church. Unfortunately, this is not stated anywhere  in the Guidebook to the Supernatural.  It is an invention of men and women to once again diminish the Jews and Israel.  (I wonder what fallen angel whispered this falsehood and started the rumor in the first place.)  In my opinion, if one takes this position, then one will never, and I mean never, have an understanding of prophecy and how the cosmic chess match is being played out.  Most of the prophecy that we have seen in our lifetime is directly related to Israel:

The gathering of the Jews from the four corners of the world[5]

The control of Jerusalem[6]

The desert blooming[7]

The language of Hebrew restored[8]

These are a few of the prophecies that have come to pass.  There are others that are yet unfulfilled, but I believe that we are in the days when we will see them happen as the news media flashes the headlines on TV sets all over the globe.

Tisha B’Av – the Ninth of Av

This day, the ninth of Av, has been a day of calamity for the Jewish people.  It would appear that this is no coincidence and, as we shall see, the fingerprints of the Fallen One are all over what has transpired on this day.  Here is a brief overview, taken from the Jewish Virtual Library, of what happened:[9]

Tisha B’Av, the Fast of the Ninth of Av, is a day of mourning to commemorate the many tragedies that have befallen the Jewish people, many of which coincidentally have occurred on the ninth of Av.

Tisha B’Av means “the ninth (day) of Av.” It usually occurs during August.

Tisha B’Av primarily commemorates the destruction of the first and second Temples, both of which were destroyed on the ninth of Av (the first by the Babylonians in 586 B.C.E.; the second by the Romans in 70 C.E.).

Although this holiday is primarily meant to commemorate the destruction of the Temple, it is appropriate to consider on this day the many other tragedies of the Jewish people, many of which occurred on this day, most notably the expulsion of the Jews from Spain in 1492.

Tisha B’Av is the culmination of a three-week period of increasing mourning, beginning with the fast of the 17th of Tammuz, which commemorates the first breach in the walls of Jerusalem, before the First Temple was destroyed. During this three-week period, weddings and other parties are not permitted, and people refrain from cutting their hair. From the first to the ninth of Av, it is customary to refrain from eating meat or drinking wine (except on the Sabbath) and from wearing new clothing.

The restrictions on Tisha B’Av are similar to those on Yom Kippur: to refrain from eating and drinking (even water); washing, bathing, shaving or wearing cosmetics; wearing leather shoes; and engaging in sexual relations. Work in the ordinary sense of the word is also restricted. People who are ill need not fast on this day. Many of the traditional mourning practices are observed: people refrain from smiles, laughter and idle conversation, and sit on low stools.

In synagogue, the book of Lamentations is read and mourning prayers are recited. The ark (cabinet where the Torah is kept) is draped in black.

Here is a list of the calamities that befell the Jewish people on the ninth of Av.[10] These dates are taken from the Mishnah.  I will comment after each one and will use a different font to do so.

The twelve spies Moses sent to observe the land of Canaan returned from their mission.  Only two of the spies, Joshua and Caleb, brought a positive report, while the others spoke disparagingly about the land.  The majority report caused the Children of Israel to cry, panic and despair of ever entering the “Promised Land.”   For this, they were punished.  God said that their generation would not enter the land.  Because of the Israelites’ lack of faith, God decreed that for all generations this date would become one of crying and misfortune for their descendants, the Jewish people.  (See Numbers Ch. 13–14.)

We discussed some of this earlier.  What is being mentioned here is the countermove of the Fallen One?  In short, he has been busy putting Nephilim (the offspring of fallen angels and women) in the area that the Most High God has designated as “the Promised Land.”  As I mentioned before, this is a major macro move because it affects everyone who has come out of Egypt in the Exodus.

The First Temple built by King Solomon and the Kingdom of Judah was destroyed by the Babylonians led by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BCE and the Judeans were sent into the Babylonian exile.

The Fallen One is seeking to destroy the entire nation.  The first temple is destroyed and the Jews are carted off to Babylon.

The Second Temple built by Ezra and Nehemiah was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE, scattering the people of Judea and commencing the Jewish exile from the Holy Land.  According to the Talmud in tractate Ta’anit, the destruction of the Second Temple began on the Ninth of Av and the Temple continued to burn throughout the Tenth of Av.

More of the same here as the Romans destroy the focal point of the Jewish nation, the Temple, and then scatter the remaining Jews to the four corners of their empire.

The Romans crushed Bar Kokhba’s revolt and destroyed the city of Betar, killing over 100,000 Jews, in 132 CE.[11]

Following the Roman siege of Jerusalem, Roman commander Turnus Rufus plowed the site of the Temple and the surrounding area, in 133 CE. [12]

This is the final straw for the Romans, and Jews entering what was once Jerusalem did so on pain of death.

There are other events that fall on the ninth of Av of which we should take note.  They are:

The First Crusade was declared by Pope Urban II in 1095, killing 10,000 Jews in its first month and destroying Jewish communities in France and the Rhineland. (See footnote #79.)

Jews were expelled from England in 1290. (See footnote #79.)

Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492. (Seefootnote #80.)

On Tisha B’Av 1914 (August 1, 1914), World War I broke out, causing unprecedented devastation across Europe and set the stage for World War II and the Holocaust. (Seefootnote #80.)

On the eve of Tisha B’Av 1942, the mass deportation began of Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto en route to Treblinka. [13]

The Jewish community center in Buenos Aires was bombed, killing 86 and wounding 300 others, on Monday, July 18, 1994, the 10th of Av. Jewish Calendar 1994.

The Israeli withdrawal from 25 settlements in the Gaza Strip and northern Samaria, considered a calamity by some Jews and Israelis but necessary or positive for Israel by others, began on August 14, 2005, the day after Tisha B’Av. (Forced evacuations of remaining residents began on August 17.)

It is obvious that there is a cosmic connection to this date.  It is not a coincidence that these calamities that befell the Jews happened on or very close to the ninth of Av.  I recently blogged about this date and I have learned to keep an eye on world events every year when we near the time of the ninth of Av.

Dates, times, and geographical settings are of great importance to the agenda of the Fallen One.  He uses these to further his agenda….

[2] ibid.

[3] ibid.

[5] The Bible: Ezekiel 37

[6] The Bible: Matthew 24

[7] The Bible: Isaiah 35:1

[8] The Bible: Zephaniah 3:9

[11] Becher, Rabbi Mordechai (1995). “History of Events on Tisha B’Av” “History of Events on Tisha B’Av. ohrnet. http://ohr.edu/1088. Retrieved 2010-07-19.

[12] Barclay, Rabbi Elozor; Jaeger, Rabbi Yitzchok (2003). Guidelines: Over Four Hundred of the Most Commonly Asked Questions About the Three WeeksTargum PressISBN 1-56871-254-5.

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76 Responses to “9th of Av: A repost from the Cosmic Chess Match”

  1. The 9th of Av starts at sundown on the 27th – the same day on which Obama is set to sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty.

    Those who are students of history know how extremely important this issue is and how catastrophic the results are of a dis-armed public.

    This is from Mike Adams’ article Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged

    Learn more: “http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html#ixzz21MGVNvJG”

    Governments routinely murder millions
    Here’s a short list of government mass murder carried out throughout history, almost always immediately following the disarmament of the public (and usually involving staged false flag events to justify the disarmament):

    50+ million dead: Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50)
    12+ million dead: Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) – concentration camps, civilian deaths and dead Russian POWs
    8+ million dead: Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908)
    6+ million dead: Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39)
    5+ million dead: Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44)
    2+ million dead: Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-22)
    1.7 million dead: Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79)
    1.6 million dead: Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94)
    1.5 million dead: Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78)
    1 million dead: Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970)
    900,000 dead: Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982)
    800,000 dead: Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994)
    See more at:
    “http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html”

    Death by government:
    “http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.CHAP1.HTM”
    “http://www.infowars.com/democide-government-killed-over-260-million-i…”

    Learn more: “http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html#ixzz21MEWM9K8″

    Many, many, MANY more people will die if we are not vigilant on this issue.

  2. Neet said

    I have learned recently about political zionism and kabbalist. I think this is one of the enemies tactics against the Jewish people. what are your thoughts on this matter?

    • Eric W. said

      Kabbalist yes.

      Political zionism? http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/Political_Zionism.html

      If you mean this then I’m missing something because I’m not sure how that’s a negative as far as the Jews are concerned.

    • nomemoleste said

      (Couple’s success spreading kabbalah yields to discord, tax probe)
      “http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-kaballah-founders-story,0,2707071.htmlstory”

      “http://www.jewishjournal.com/bloggish/item/dark_knight_shooter_was_former_camp_counselor_for_jewish_big_brothers_big_s/”
      “http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/SD-Colorado-Shooting-Suspect-Was-Camp-Counselor-in-LA-County-163290066.html”

      quote:
      NBC 7 San Diego KNSD reported on Saturday that during the summer of 2008 the alleged shooter, James Holmes, 24, was a cabin counselor at Camp Max Strauss and was “responsible for the care and guidance of a group of about 10 children.”

      The NBC story quotes a statement from Randy Schwab, CEO of Jewish Big Brothers and Big Sisters, which runs Camp Max Straus, that says Holmes “helped [campers] learn confidence, self esteem and how to work in small teams to effect positive outcomes.

    • Eric W. said

      Interesting.

      As far as Holmes goes, the Jewish Big Brothers thing doesn’t wave red flags at me really. At most it continues to suggest to me that this guy was going along and then suddenly either got activated, triggered, or who knows what else?

      On the other hand, this is obvious red flags to me: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557329_10151136404281159_571683442_n.jpg

    • Linda said

      National Israel doesn’t mean the elect! It’s Abraham, Isaac & Jacob/Israel= Israel out of Israel. Too many Nationals are Socialists and Humanists, Kabbala is a remnant of the Giant’s Religion!

  3. Eric W. said

    I do find the convergence of events overlapping with the 9th of Av at this point to be something that should make people stop in their tracks and extra vigilance on prayer and being in the Lord’s Word. I’m not someone that likes to read into things too much or make mountains of mole hills but this is starting to show me the seeming beginnings of a trend that I find unsettling.

    The noticeable uptick in violence whether it be the terrorism against Israelis in Bulgaria right on through to this Batman shooter thing this close together and this close to 9th of Av makes me take pause.

    For me, the first and last endgame still is the Middle East. I also won’t be surprised if something happens at the Olympics. Shoot, that’s all but been telegraphed with neon signs. Ultimately, I’m still keeping my eyes locked on Israel the most.

    I’m looking forward to whenever L.A. decides to write another book. Loved the first two. :)

    The Nephilim series was a fun and provoking read, too, that I easily feel could be continued if he felt like it.

    Rose:
    “Many, many, MANY more people will die if we are not vigilant on this issue.”

    You’re right. They already have been.

    Realistically: What can we do about any of it?

    CO shooter:

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/22/police-describe-colorado-shooting-as-calculated-and-deliberate-source-says-gun/#ixzz21LBULgLS

    No question this was well planned and premeditated. I’m amazed the MSM is even giving us this much.

    Praise God that gun got jammed, too.

    Wow, look at all the hits on the blogs! :)

  4. nomemoleste said

    When secularized and outright occult ceremonies are held at ball games and the olympics — why be surprised at what happens? There are larger political games going on. And still larger spiritual battles in the Cosmic Chess Match.

    (Which reminds me of the ruins of the coliseums at Rome, Istanbul, and Petra … )

    The simplest answer to how murderers get money is that they’re also thieves. (the enemy comes to kill, steal, and destroy) That said, I have no doubt there were others involved with the batman shooter.

    As for using weapons, Holmes could have used chemicals, explosives, or fire instead. He could have parked a car full of explosives next to theater and done much more harm. He’s just a pawn though. Another front in the Cosmic Chess Match.

    “http://www.themonitor.com/news/tamaulipas-62363-drew-state.html” (“Increased use of car bombs in Tamaulipas disturbing, former U.S. agent says” and elsewhere in the drug wars)

    Is this an unusual situation? For students or workers to go postal under stress… not so much. For “normal” people to commit atrocities, hardly… there are 3000 babies “legally” murdered in the USA every day and the so called “normal” majority in the 100′s of millions in the US not only sanction it — they push it as sacrosanct right — including the majority of “christians” (who are clearly deluded apostates). Infanticide is ongoing world wide, 50 million each year, and far eclipses the numbers killed in wars.

    Those that sanction abortion can just as easily justify mass murder — if they could get away with it. Whatever conscience they might have had is already suppressed, compartmentalized. “Normal people” took part in the holocaust either directly or by sanction.

    There are only 2 opposing groups — no neutrals. Murderers are cast out of the Kingdom of Heaven and soon enough into the Lake of Fire with the rest of the enemy — who they’re controlled by. The last part of the Revelation states the matter in much more detail.

    There are only 2 groups of people — those saved and joined to Christ and those controlled(*) and joined to the rebels.
    (* – conquered, dominated, seduced, addicted, doomed, etc.) There are no neutrals in the Cosmic Chess Match.

    It’s ironic (and utter delusion) that the very free will choice to murder (whether through proxies or with weapons in a crowd or by elective butchery) strips away so much free will (prison, prison hospital, the destruction of war … hell).

    Legalizing murdering babies, legalizing perversion, decriminalizing personal drug use, decriminalizing illegal aliens, extended wars and “occupations” … are all part of the downward fall of wickedness.

    When those that seek out entertainments become part of the entertainment themselves — the lesson is still that God is not mocked — we reap what we sow and usually with increase. The enemy doesn’t even think of people as pawns so much as expendables, trash. Like the parents that sanction abortion think of their dead children as medical waste.

    By turning away from Christ, Jesus of Nazareth, there’s no hope of protection from the rebel angels and their proxies.

    Israel needs to wake up that the God of Adam, Noah, and Abraham has come in the flesh in the form of Yeshua Messiah, who offered up His own physical body to the sacrifice of the Cross as our Great High Priest, then resurrected, then ascended to the Throne Room and Tabernacle of Heaven. And He’s coming again soon to complete His promises, fulfill God’s will on earth, and rescue the remnant of His people — from the enemy.

    I come in the name of Messiah, saved by His grace, whereby my name is written in Heaven.

    Chose this day to follow the rebel angels or your Messiah, Yeshua. (Yahshua, Jesus, the only begotten Son of God)

    • Amen

      “… Like the parents that sanction abortion think of their dead children as medical waste. ”

      This is the heart of evil.

    • Eric W. said

      Amen and 100 percent agree with both of you.

    • LindaFromToronto said

      Amen, Nomemoleste!

    • LindaFromToronto said

      P.S….And amen to you also, Rose and Eric! (just saw your posts after I did mine.)

    • Ally said

      The abortion issue really upsets me. I dont want any arguement or commentary about what I am going to say here. I would like you to PLEASE think and meditate on what follows instead of jumping to your own opinions! And really think about it and chew on it for at least a day and maybe longer than that. Ive been chewing on for at least 40years.
      And before you judge what I am saying-and I am releasing extremely personal infirmation here and dont need to be attacked for sharing some very deep and painful parts of my life.
      One of my daughters was violently raped. And she got pregnant. And no, she didnt get an abortion. I have a beautiful wonderful grandchild who I absolutely adore! But I havent been able to see him for the last three years which is heartbreaking. My daughter had managed to hide from the rapist for almost ten years but he found her a few years ago and now she is a mess. The state police sex crimes unit became involved and my other daughter and I were supe

    • @Ally: My heart goes out to you and your family for what you are going through.

      I don’t believe it was a clear cut decision to keep the child but really, it’s God who “breathed life” into the child which I firmly believe is a definite factor to consider.

      It’s up to us to line up with God’s Word and walk with Him. Pleading the Sinless Blood of the Lamb over your daughter and the child is paramount.

      Commissioning God’s powerful Angels to create a hedge of protection is of the utmost importance.

      Praying for the rapist to stay away from your daughter and child is a must. I once prayed to the Lord to keep a certain individual away from me and instantly and through today, I’ve never seen this person or heard from him!

      Dedicating your child and grandchild to the Most High God is an absolute–He created them and He will fulfill His Word over them.

      Rest in the supernatural peace and protection of God; continue to seek Him, He will do as His Word says.

      My prayers will continue to go out to you and your family.

    • John Michael said

      No Me Moleste,

      Preach it brother, over and over.

      As a nation, were not sick of the killing of the unborn and sadly, most likely wont ever be. The shooting is an example of the birthpangs which are upon us and as I listen to the reporting from the world view about it I’m saddened that there isnt as much regret for taking the lives of the innocent.

      Judgment is coming and it rides a white horse.

      Maranatha

    • Linda said

      So so true Nome! I still believe there are some that are just stupidly deluded though and when the dodo hits the fan they will wake up out of their stuper! They are the 3rd group! They had some knowledge, but never thirsted for more until it was too late and then dying of thirst they will be the mass of maryters at the throne crying when will you avenge ur blood! No one gets out of this alive in the end except those appointed to enter the earthly Kingdm with Jesus reigning. :( This is the first time I ever started at the bottom and worked my way up! There are so many now I may never reach the top lol)

    • nomemoleste said

      Linda I agree with you generally that some lukewarm Christians are in for a rude awakening. I’ve never given up on the remnant of the Laodicean church. Or any of the other churches in Rev. 2-3. But my experience with being corrected and the Word says that Abba chastises His children as part of His love. Moreso, we’re told that those that aren’t corrected aren’t His children.

      I gotta say 2 groups and question the salvation of those that act like children of the devil.

      Hebrews 12
      4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
      5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children,
      My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
      6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

      7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons;
      for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
      8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

      9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence:
      shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
      10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure;
      but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

      11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous:
      nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

      To me it’s not just one child being killed, it’s possibly whole nations being cut off. Who knows how many would have been born as children, and grandchildren and so on from any of the babies that are aborted. Some portion of them in their continuing generations would have been saved. No matter what portion would have been lost, those saved would have gone on with us forever.

      Abraham’s seed is counted as the sands of the sea. Look how many nations came from Him.

      I strongly agree with Rose, “abortion is the very heart of darkness.”

  5. Barbara in VA said

    Just found this information online:

    “Tisha B’Av is never observed on Shabbat. If the 9th of Av falls on a Saturday, the fast is postponed until the 10th of Av.

    List of Dates

    Tisha B’Av will occur on the following days of the secular calendar:

    •Jewish Year 5772: sunset July 28, 2012 – nightfall July 29, 2012″.

    Maranatha!

  6. Ally said

    Supeoned to court to testify against the rapist . The reappearance of this rapist in her life sent her over the edge and she is ectremely mentally ill now. My grandson has to live with the knowledge his “dad” is a rapist. His dad is a serial rapist and a follower of Louis Farakahn and even though he is a rapist, he is still the father so the court system here lets him see my grandson now and my poor grandson who has always been raised a Christian is being forced to participate in “black muslim” activities. Imagine what that kid is going through! Meanwhile my daughter, who never used drugs before, is strung out on opiates and has all kinds of horrible people living with her and there has been a shooting in her house etc. She is stealing and worse!!!!!! All I can do is pray. The court system here in the inner city is awful and tho I have tried to get visitation with my grandson, unless I have a very good, very expensive lawyer there is no hope. I cant even send him a birthday card or present. Its absolutely heartwrenching.
    So what does this have to do with abortion?
    Now, imagine being a pregnant 11 year old girl raped by her father? Or a 16 year old who is pregnant living on the street whose mother is a crackhead and there are no relatives or nice church people to help? Frankly both of those girls will probably have their babies because they couldnt possibly come up with the $500. it costs to have an abortion. But what a miserable terrible life those innocent children will have!!!!!
    Im adopted and my life was a living hell. A drug adled alcoholic mother who beat me daily, rarely fed us and abused us physically and psychologically. Would not wish my childhood on my worst enemy.
    Have you ever stood outside an abortion clinic? And really looked at the crying, heartbroken women who are forced by finances or circumstances to make this absolutely awful decision? Trust me, they don’t take it lightly, its not a piece of tissue, its their baby. How about the women in China who are dragged out if theur homes 8 months pregnant and forceibly aborted? Do you think they want that?
    On the other hand, soldiers who are sent out to murder for their nations are rewarded and applauded! Oh, and what about death row inmates? Why just murder them too!
    So lets go to the truth now. The undisputeable truth, the Holy Bible! Show me a passage that specifically mentions abortion! No, not a human sacrafice or passing through the fire but a passage that specifically mentions abortion! Or how about a passageabout what an unborn infant is worth or the punishment for some one who kills or causes an unbornchild to die? (thete is no passage concerning abortion btw. There are some concerning the value of an unborn child)
    I am not condoning abortion. It part of the wages of sin is death package. A package that affects every person on this corrupt sinful planet!!!!!! And will continue until Christ’s reign.
    But don’t be flippant or take it lightly or fling around the real ramifications of this horrendous bloody earthly nightmare.
    And one more thought in closing.EVERY aborted baby is going to be in heaven. every single one! But I can’t say that for all the abused, abandoned and neglected children who make it to adulthood. :(
    Thank you for letting me rant! Oh my precious brothers and sisters here on this blog. I just couldn’t take it anymore. please forgive me if I have caused offense in any way! But it is neccessary to examine this in light of word and truth. Please pray for all those that face a decision of murder, wether a soldier in the field, a man protecting his family, or a young unwed mother with no one to care for her and nowhere to go.

    • Eric W. said

      You all are most certainly in my prayers. I plead the blood of Jesus on your all’s behalf.

    • There is yet no defense for destroying the defenseless or casting off a precious gift of God! Indeed the Lord Yeshua did address these times we now live in, where abortion is now common place and where a variety of excuses are used to murder the innocent! “For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck”-Luke 23:29! It is the Lord God that opens the womb, it is also the Lord God that provides the fruit of the womb. To recompense evil with evil, is this then justice? Who then will defend the innocent but the Lord God, “for vengeance is mine” saith the Lord!

    • Mrs M said

      Ally,
      I’m so sorry for all the trials you have faced. I would recommend you also follow Bonita Petroff’s blog, A Cross in the Wilderness. She is currently on her 38th entry of her testimony. It’s gut wrenching, and I’m sure you can relate and find peace and restoration and a deeper understanding of why things like this happen. God bless you and your family. We will include your family in our prayers.

    • Ally, your story breaks my heart. This is another place in which the church has failed so miserably, because what is true religion?

      “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world. ” James 1:27

      You are a very brave lady. And your comment about aborted babies going straight to heaven is the only consolation in the whole bloody affair.

    • windsofchange said

      Ally~
      I take you in my arms and hold you tight.I weep w/ those who weep and rejoice w/ those who rejoice.
      May your weeping be turned into great joy at the manifest salvation of this situation in it’s entirety.God is with you…I always get a special warmth and insight from what you write.I can tell you are so special to the Father and He is very proud of you and your choices to walk in His ways.
      Love in Christ,
      ~ winds ~

    • Absolutely heart wrenching post my dear sister! The children that grow up are lost sheep and our Shepherd leaves the 99 just to find them. That is why I now believe in Universal Reconciliation. I do not believe that God will not give up seeking His lost sheep, even after death. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/pdf/Hope_Beyond_Hell_Unabridged.pdf

    • nomemoleste said

      Ally,

      I would have let this sit a few days as you requested had you done likewise. It’s better that you said something, since now there are many interceding for you and your family. We don’t know how all this plays out in the generations any more than when Moses, David, or Paul were found guilty of murder in their times. Christ forgives, as we should — but He also calls sin “sin,” and says, “Go and sin no more.”

      Let’s fast forward to the hereafter.

      We may find that your grandson helped his dad to be saved. And went on to have generations of his own, some of which were also saved, and some weren’t.

      Can those that are lost in hell and cast into the Lake of Fire compare to those are are saved and go on to be with Christ in glory forever? Should the unceasing unspeakable horror of the damned prevent those joined to Christ as His collective bride & wife from ever being born?

      And what will the saved of your (and your grandson’s) generations say of the traumas and suffering of your own childhood?

      Job was caught up in much bigger events than his own life. When God turned Job over to satan to destroy his family, wealth, and health … should we judge the Almighty as being unjust? Job was eventually restored with more than before including a wonderful family — but not before realizing he didn’t know what all was going on in the matter with satan.

      Jesus loves you, and did so even when you were a child in all the trauma you were in. He loves your grandson and your daughter too of course. He even loves your grandson’s “sire.” Because He loves no matter what we do or don’t do, because that’s who He is.

      As best I can tell hell and the Lake of Fire keep the damned from violating each other over and over without end, and not just from victimizing the saved. The most loving thing that can be done for rebels is to isolate them from harming each other — forever.

      What I’m saying is that God is just and loving as perfectly expressed in Christ. And we just don’t know all of what He does (or who helps Him) in each of our loved one’s lives.

      Abortion is murder to be sure — even if by some rationale justified. You may disagree in part or in full. The Bible certainly addresses murder plenty, not the least in Genesis 9. It’s not just a matter for the mother or the parents alone. There’s a larger war going on.

      The blood of Abel considered — we are our brother’s keepers.

      Are there pastors helping you? Forgiveness, protecting your family, faith instead of fear, abandonment…. are all matters we each have to deal with. A public forum can only go so far….

  7. Eric W. said

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/22/massacre-suspect-james-holmes-gun-range-application-drew-red-flag-for-owner/

    This drives me nuts. EVERY single time once of these horrible tragedies happens, all of a sudden we find out AFTER the fact that there were a billion and one obvious red flags and warning signs and everyone *cues L.A’s nasally Flanders voice: * We don’t want to offend or hurt anyone’s feeling or butt into someone else’s business and just go along and get along and hope everyone and everything’s going to be a-ok gosh darn it. :)

    Fort Hood. VT. Columbine. No one pays attention and/or ignores and hopes it doesn’t mean anything and hopes it all goes away and the million and one warning signs and red flags like what’s in my link don’t get mentioned until it’s too late AFTER the fact.

    It just makes me angry as can be.

    It’s not rocket science. If you’re a gun seller and you have THAT many doubts and red flags, guess what? YOU DON’T SELL THE GUY THE GUN!

    I’m pro Second Amendment certainly but how about a little basic responsibility and common sense here?

  8. Ally said

    Seashore Mary-thank you so much! I have to post using a tiny cell phone and my message got seperated into 2 parts unfortunately. I do appreciate prayer very much. And Im not tryimg to get people to feel sorry for me. Its very difficult to share such private information on such a public forum. But I think sometimes its extremely difficult to get people to realuze the life they live can be so remarkable different from someone elses and the opportunities or decisions faced can be overwhelming in one set of circumstances and just a bump in the road for someone else. Of course we all know Jesus is the answer! But for someone who doesnt know Jesus, doesnt have that answer. And even with Jesus the road isnt that easy sometimes

    • Barbara in VA said

      Ally: Thank you so much for sharing such personal and extremely heart-breaking information. It is good for us who live in a totally different environment to be awakened to the horrors that many people are facing everyday in their lives, where the struggle to survive is so great that it is extremely hard for some of us to even begin to imagine! And, Ally, the wonder of it all is that you maintain your faith in God under such circumstances! May He bless you in very special ways and may He continue to strengthen you and show you His love and mercy. Your witness is a wonderful testimony to the love shown everyone at the cross. Again, thank you for sharing!

      Maranatha!

    • Eric W. said

      You did all that on a cellphone?! :shock:

      Thank you for sharing that testimony with us. You can be assured you have a crew of prayer warriors on your side and watching your back. :)

  9. The Days are coming however that this time of mourning and pain will be turned to joy, for the Lord is preparing to send his messenger to Israel before the great and dreadful day of the Lord! This messenger will prepare the hearts of the people and the Lord God will plead with his people as their fathers in the wilderness, they will pass under the rod and the rebels in their midst will be cutoff in that day! As the Lord God is presently gathering many nations to the borders of Israel, preparing a mighty coalition to be called against his people Israel, he will reveal his glory to all nations and his people Israel will no longer profane his Holy Name! In the aftermath of this great battle the Lord God will pour out his Spirit upon the house of Israel and the Church Age will at that point expire, for the attention of the Lord God will again be returned unto his people Israel (Ezekiel 39:29/Daniel 9:24).

  10. ansem77 said

    The Batman Shooting Spree

  11. Linda said

    First I must say I have not read through all the blog, but I def. will. I was going to post these thoughts and then saw a bit and thought it would fit well here.

    I was listening to Mike Hoggard’s teaching on Giants as Noah Hutchings said it was the best one he’s ever heard, (and it is very detailed I can assure)! KJB is all we need to prove Giants are Fallen Angels and what went on exactly, no out side writings etc. needed It’s all in the KJB!

    It began just after Creation, (Adam) & Eve in the Garden wanting to be a god like the Most High! Gen 3:1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. 4.And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
    5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Well we know what happened and then the spiritual death and (sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons their attempt of covering themselves from God’s judgement) the curse:13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
    14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
    15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel and so he drove out the man & the War of the heavens and earth began!

    L.A. says that the Bible is God’s Guide Book and so it is, but what if the Bible/KJV was ALL about the curse, the seed of Satan. Gen.15 and all the cause and effect in between, than how to get SAVED. To keep yourself from CORRUPTING your DNA? How to be IN Christ and Christ in you DNA. (We become just like Him).

    What is a Giant=sons of God/Fallen Angels
    What is the “seed” of Satan=DNA
    What is the “seed” of the woman=DNA Man=46, women =46=72 Chromozones
    Both Angels and mankind have DNA! Even though we have both flesh and blood, but we will be like spirits after death with a body, but heavenly adapted like Jesus(eat, drink, human look etc.) Note Pyramid/72 steps(46+46=72 Chromozones!!)

    Who are the Giants=sons of God/Fallen Angels who were in the land
    What did they want: the daughters of men, Why? To corrupt the DNA to circumvent the curse and their ultimate demise. Soon we had Cain vs Able and murder entered. Then we come to Nimrod:Genesis 10:8
    And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. Genesis 10:9
    He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. (Now being just a mighty hunter was not note worthy, but being a mighty hunter of men’s souls was! He started the Mystery Rel. Mystery Babylon=The Giants Religion.) Something was taking place in him he was becoming a mighty one=his DNA was changing maybe all the drinking of animal blood/human blood!!! All the rel. of the world trace to that one religion(-Judaism/Christianity) it was a counterfit of God’s relationship with Adam, His Prohecies to restore that through Jesus’s Blood Atonement) I think there’s also something to Life is in the Blood not being good at science!!)

    Well Solomen said nothing’s new under the son and “as in the Days of Noah” (violence and Giants ruling corrupting the DNA ) there was the Flood and Giants again/Hybrids! Disembodied spirits and it began all over again up to now heading for I think a soon climax!
    See: Deut.7:1-3,Lev19:19, Ezra 9:1-2 (mingling seed of man and cattle and plant)
    There were 5Giants David came up against Goliath & his 4 Brothers,There were 5 Kings .and before that Ogg, Arba father of Anak. (They were in the land at a early beginning). (Note Gaza, Gad and Astad ? sp)
    There were the Assyrians etc., and the Philistines who always troubled them and to this day. When the Philistines took the ark they took it and placed it next to Dagon, the half fish/man god! By the way the Cath. priests wear the same garb the Dagon priests wore the fish head hat!! Half fish half man!!! (or scaled creature!)
    Why did God call Abrahm out to make a people=To teach a people to be pure DNA and Faithful to God(he was a heathen his father was an idol maker!!(the Giants/gods), but something was there in Abrahms heart that God could mold and he did!. A heavenly Kingdom people, A Church and a Earthly Kingdom to come and a Judgement to finally detroy Satan and his and their DNA.
    “As is in the Days of Noah”, we have Giants/Hybrids, Fallen Angels and soon all will be corrupted DNA except a remnant! We have traces of that watered down DNA around us with 6 fingers, very Tall individuals, and people who will never be saved!
    We are told with a warning to not add one word, .,tittle and NOT to remove one word. Not to add, not to take away, could it also mean adding DNA, taking away and adding a diff source of DNA? There’s a scripture ? says don’t give seed to Molech to defile my sanctuary(could it mean both body and temple, our bodies are now the temple of the LORD! Could it also be that GOD uses natural things, situations and DNA problems to bring us back to HIM(Believers) and to judge the wicked and those who reject HIM along with natural circumstances, so there they are tampering with another reason to not altar the DNA put in take away warning!

    I think we are VERY near to be Raptured, the catching away Paul taught! The altared DNA of human and animal DNA is in all our food now, can goods even, The Poitical side of it seems to be ready to enslave the World. I think to save His Body of Christ from an altared DNA HE will have to remove us because the food water is corrupted! These were just thoughts that came to me while Mike was speaking diff. things. I think they might have been prompted/Teaching by HS as Mike read diff. scriptures and Scriptures came to mind, but I wouldn’t be dogmatic about it! I also saw America as one big Temple in the making the unfinished cap stone. All the Pyramids were temples, mounds etc. in various places where sacrifices were made! They signified fire(pyra/pyramids) out of ashes a new creation resurrects(the Phoenix symbol) a new breed Satan’s seed/DNA a new Kingdom his!! That’s their real plan. What say you? (
    I had to retype most over my lap top shut down again and it was hard to redo my thoughts :) )

    • JLL said

      What is the “seed” of the woman=DNA Man=46, women =46=72 Chromozones….

      Note Pyramid/72 steps(46+46=72 Chromozones!!)

      Linda, I’m not quite sure where you were going with the 46 chromosomes and 72 steps of the pyramid stuff, but you seemed to find those numbers significant, so let me just mention a couple of details here:

      Human chromosomes are in 23 pairs, so the total is 46 per person. But only one of each pair are passed on from parent to child: so (aside from some accidents) each person has 46 chromosomes, 23 from the mother and 23 from the father. So no human has 46 x 2 chromosomes.

      Also, 46 x 2 is 92 rather than 72.

    • JLL said

      The altared DNA of human and animal DNA is in all our food now, can goods even

      Genetically-modified plants which we eat are actually very few, though some appear in many different types of foods. Most commercially-grown corn (including high-fructose corn syrup), sugar beets, soybeans (which appear on labels under a bewildering variety of terms), and canola/rapeseed, are genetically-modified. So are some papayas and small amounts of zucchinis and crook-neck squash.

      I don’t know if beef qualifies as GM, as the actual genes have not been tampered with. Some cattle are injected with a GM hormone; I don’t know if any of those hormones make it into the beef or milk we buy. I believe that’s the only remotely GM meat/milk/egg source.

      Here’s an article on GM foods with more information:
      “http://www.non-gmoreport.com/whatisnon-gmo.php”

      I was going to post a link to a comprehensive list of the several dozen phrases that denote soy in prepared foods, but it’s a dead link. 8-( Here’s the best I could find with a quick search:
      “http://foodallergies.about.com/od/soyallergies/a/List-Of-Soy-Ingredients-To-Avoid-When-Following-A-Soy-Free-Diet.htm”

      It is still easy to buy non-GMO seed and grow your own veggies and corn. (Locating the seeds is the easy part; growing enough to feed yourself is rather time-consuming. I should quit reading and go out in the garden….) And you can still purchase non-GMO food if you omit the risky foods and buy carefully. Learn about the farmer’s markets in your area. When you talk to someone who’s interested, ask if they know of good sources of safe foods. And look around to see if there’s a hippie co-op or something similar (likely fertile ground for evangelism, so going there is a two-fer).

    • Deirdre said

      I wonderd if pyramids symbolize mountains? And satan said he wanted to sit on the mount of congregation….

    • Linda said

      JLL thank you for pointing out my errors lol I said I lost most of my post and was trying to recall and then my grandson and my husband kept interrupting me and I hurried to get it done before it maybe shut down again and messed it up.

      The Chromozones had nothing to do with the 72 number. That was about the pyramids having 13 steps-72 bricks and interpretations from Manny Halls book=Masons. The dollar and evidence in sight. The Chromozones were a seperate thought about corruption. DNA added to our strands/mingling the seed with fallen angels/now test tube and abductions and more. It did sound stupid lol!!

      Remember I caviated I am not good at science!! lol It was a lot of info to digest and I sure didn’t need to be interrupted ev. second by my family members about stupid non essentials as I tried to recall my thoughts in my “air head”! I was already angry and frustrated and anxious re. my computer shutting down when I was almost done!!!! Then while I tried to think what I had said, more interruptions=Life at work.

      It would be easier to have you listen to the Giant’s series than to clarify here and then you may grasp why I think it’s possible for the Bible to be a last will and testimony re. The Creation, The Fallen Angels, the the attack on Adam , the curse, then the plan of Satan to corrupt all DNA and bring in his (Satan) Kingdom. Our necessity to be reborn etc. Jesus DNA within us by the HS, (like Mary)to overcome the world and have eternal life with God through Him. The Body of Christ is an organic miracle where we actually become the BODY of Christ! The Mystery Hidden in God before the Foundations of the World/ Eph. (Paul’s Gospel to the Gentiesgiven to Him by Jesus Himself! Which the church has neglected to study the importance of this msg. and has evrything the “church” not rightly dividing the word of God. The Gospels. The Bride of Christ compared to The Body of Christ
      http://lionandlambministry.com/index.php/message-for-today/162-the-bride-of-christ-compared-to-the-body-of-christ-

      You can as I suggested study this at Lion and Lamb Ministry Pastor David Picos DD has done an excelant work from scripture on this subject! http://lionandlambministry.com/index.php/february-studies (Rev. Series=The Church) also the 3 elections fits the blog about the elect/Israel etc.
      http://lionandlambministry.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=651 1
      http://lionandlambministry.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=653 2
      http://lionandlambministry.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=654 3

      It is our Merciful Father’s Great warning to His (how to be HIS) what to do what to guard against! Everything in between the pages then pertains to details, knowledge to use to recognize, to understand, to show man’s weakness and naiveness and sin nature which all would lead us to the enemy! To show us how the plan was working out, the resisters, FAITH as our GREATEST weapon. (Even the new bibles have been corrupted to lead us astray!!!) ie. NIV makes Jesus the cap stone(dollar unfinished pyramid(New Age/Masons) in their writings it’s ilumination/3rd eye etc. Illumination yet to be fulfilled. See videos; Jesus is the Chief Corner Stone NOT the Cap Stone!!! Satan as the morning star sounds like Jesus the Bright and Morning Star (not Satan!!). Satan is the star of the morning like when darkness mingles with light at dawn,(MINGLE) they linger together for a while. Get that concept also from videos. Mike has really connected it all together using the KJB and bnot other writings as he believes everything is answered there if you search!!! The church has really spiraled downward since the NIV has been promoted and that goes for NKJB!! They are New Age in worship and bizzarre accepting New Age philosphy. http://www.av1611.org/nkjv.html The New International perVersion (Dial the Truth Ministry)

      In pt 3 he talks about pit/devils see: http://www.av1611.org/hell_place.html (scientists prove hell!)
      Dial The Truth Ministry
      http://www.av1611.org/index.html Lots of questions answered there!

      I don’t think L.A. wil mind me posting the teachings as he has had Pastor David Picos ref. on his site/minitries which i admired!
      Thanks to the poster (forgot who ) who thanked me and said they will review the videos. They got my jif even though I screwed up some. :)

      The studies I have included are very much worth your investigation and then as they say you decide. It’s all proofed by scripture. None of man’s Traditions!

  12. Linda said

    Oh Mike Hoggard Giants pts. 1,2,3 and (pt 1 1/8 etc.) Please listen you won’t be disappointed!!!! Our Bible is awsome! Of course :)

  13. Linda said

    How funny I went to mail and WND had the ? who are the sons of God? lol

  14. Manitou Springs, (Just outside Colorado Springs) is where Anton Lavey moved his Satanic Church to from Santa Cruz, CA. Manitou, in the Native American language, means “Little Power Keepers.”
    The whole Ute pass is COVERED in Satanic activity!!! just down the road from Aurora…

    • Linda said

      I lived in Co Sprgs for 8yrs.(74-79 +1yr 81)my husband thought he missed the hunting etc., but too cold(back to AZ. :) Anyway Manitou…was the capital of witch craft at the time=fits w/LaVey!!! There was so much crystals etc. at that time. I can see where Aurora could be also and all the retro hippies in the coleges/Boulder etc.
      CS is a very secular/humanist area esp w/Academy. A good church wa Mesa Hills Bible Church. Focus on the Family headquarters there also= have gone very New Age/endorcements etc.!

  15. Linda said

    oops got my CS dates wrong that woud make me bad at science and math lol

    I’m now reading the comments, I just watched the shooting /code video it fit’s with what’s in my spirit. I was listening to Mike’s teaching as I woke up at 6Am and then some a little later and I had to keep jotting notes as this stuff was rushing in my head and video going.

    I f the Mason’s have hidden codes in the Bible with their corrupted religion offshoot , then I would say that GOD hid his code for us to find and know in this generation, what is happening, has happened and is going to happen! It’s like a tract race the Illuminated ones vs the children of GOD/Christ’s Body the Church!

  16. Linda said

    http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/C_5a.html
    Hebraic Fall Festivals/Holy Days
    Seems a good source lots of info. I did read: “Tisha B’Av is never observed on Shabbat. If the 9th of Av falls on a Saturday, the fast is postponed until the 10th of Av. ” :)
    Can you imagine aliens over the Olympic’s ending and the Church snatched away on Rosh Hashana all around the same time talk about a world crisis, needing a pseudo savior (anti-Christ=instead of/another christ!) Before elections hmm! The O Great One!! Good time to be gone! (anytime w/Jesus is a good time to be gone :)

  17. windsofchange said

    Hey Linda~
    I truly enjoyed your “notes” ( : And co-inky, I was just on Mike’s site late last night and bookmarked to listen to those teachings today! Cool~

    • Linda said

      Thank you Winds! I did mess up my post, but you were gracious and saw what I was getting at anyway I guess. I have written a clarificaton of sorts and added some really good info from some good ministries. There’s a lot of truth at both!! Dial the Truth Ministry and Lion and Lamb. I have grown so much from LLM and he helped me renew my mind from so much goofey teaching and corrupted teaching and misguided teachers lacking knowledge of the whole councel of the word of God! Hope they bless you also if you take a look.


      Mike Hoggard Giants pt1 1/

  18. Mrs M said

    lame stream media is already talking about a possible terrorist attack at the olympics;
    “http://ca.news.yahoo.com/israel-fears-iran-olympics-attack-053118618–oly.html”

  19. ansem77 said

    This Great Evil (Preview of Great Tribulation)

    John 16:33
    I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.

  20. Obama’ speech from Colorado… WHAT DID THAT PARTICULAR SCRIPTURE HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING??? WE NEED TO STUDY THIS!!!

  21. CKS said

    Dear Ally,

    Thank you for sharing your story. I have one quite similar with my daughter who was raped at 14 and became pregnant. I have always been extremely pro life and still am, however, because of the pregnacy she developed seizures and had to have the pregnancy terminated. I will not go into the gorey details only to say that I now can say I have looked satan in the eyes here on this earth literally. Our hearts and souls in our family are scarred forever because of this. Our truly magnificent wonderful God has given us 2 beautiful granddaughters and I pray he never takes them away to punish me for allowing this to happen to may daughter and what subsequently followed. I have a real hard time believing that I will ever get to Heaven because of the guilt that I carry every day of my life for essentially killing my first grandchild but at the time I was choosing between the life of my precious 14 year old daughter and her unborn daughter. I pray for forgiveness all the time, but posts that I have read from time to time make me believe this is an unforgiveable sin. I am praying for you family right now.

    • Linda said

      I pray the HS comfort both of you and the only unforgiveable sin is to never receive Jesus as your savior and then you are damned forever! Trust in the Lord’s provision for you and don’t rely on feelings :) Grace is a free Gift by Faith!

    • Ally, The mere fact that you are concerned about whether or not you’ve committed the Unforgivable sin, (Blaspheme the Holy Ghost) means that you HAVEN’T!!! A person becomes completely reprobate, and their “Conscience” is seared to the point of being mute… You’ll be just fine lil’ Sistah!!!

    • As long as you have repented to the Lord with a contrite heart, which sounds like you have, then you can release your guilt to.the Lord and fear no more. He is good to forgive ALL our transgressions.

      Love your children and grand children like there is no tomorrow. Raise your hands to the Lord and rejoice. REJOICE! Don’t let this regrettable past steal one more moments joy from your love for God’s goodness and mercy.

      May God bless you, for I know be has forgiven you. God’s word has given is that covenant and we must have faith that God is awesome and powerful enough to fulfill that covenant.

    • CKS,

      A murderer is not one that repents and turns to Christ for grace and for forgiveness to not murder again. Such as Moses, David, Paul….

      Those who hate have the seed of murder in their hearts. They’d murder again and again if they could get away with it. That’s a spiritual condition. And disconnected from Christ.

      Guilt, sadness, bitterness, can all be symptoms of unforgiveness. Christ would tell you let it go, let Him have that to help heal the scars. Sharing helps.

      If we kill someone to protect our family from immediate violence — that’s protecting them. Otherwise the authorities should be brought in. The situation where the mother’s life is jeopardized by the gestation of the baby is similar. (And not the fault of the child obviously.) ….

    • Doctors or medical staff not explaining alternatives in this case could be murder…. (different topic)

      The duty to protect others is clearer if the situation is a child with a real gun…. in some cases the only option within an available window of time might be to kill the child before they kill someone else.

      Please pray for the police and authorities…. And especially those with survivor’s guilt.

    • Ally said

      Thank you so mych for sharing! It’s hard to share things like this. First of all if you are believer in Christ, you are washed in his blood! Its under the blood now and you dont have to worry about it anymore!!!!!!! The guilt is from satan, the lier, thief and destroyer!
      You were forced to make a decision in a time of stress and you did the best you could at the time! God uses all things to bring good to his children. And your daughter and beautiful grandchildren are your blessings currently! And you wil see your other grandbaby in heaven.
      This situation illustrates how difficult some situations are. Just heartwrenching! Oh how I hate Satan!
      Just a weird sidenote here, for people who dont realize how prevelant sexual musconduct is. 1 in 4 women have been molested and 1 in 5 men. I actually worked on the study that gathered this data and it was crushing. It was so hard on the researchers, we were allowed to leave after a really upsetting call. The stories I heard, you cant begun to imagine.
      Oh Thank You Jesus foryour Precious Blood!

    • Deirdre said

      CKS,
      There is no pit so deep that your FATHER is not there with you. I pray blessings and peace upon you and your family. The only people condemned to hell are those that chose not to believe KING JESUS is GOD and did not follow HIM. This is why HE is the righteous judge and not us, b/c HE knows the depths of our hearts. It is evident your heart is still breaking over this event. I pray healing upon your whole family and that you be released from the guilt and shame that you have been bearing. Amen.

    • mary said

      Greetings and blessings in the Name of our LORD, Ally, CKS and all.

      Ally and CKS, your Testimonies have so touched my heart –beautifully. I feel such emotions in your words…

      Our Father in Heaven has blessed me with a ministry in loving His VERY lost children. The murderers, the rapists, the ‘gay’, the alcoholics, the drug addicts, the abortionists, the vagrant and homeless and essentially any other ‘group’ of people the world has discarded, incarcerated or attempted to kill.

      It is a very difficult ministry and I walk alone in it as none of the Christians in this small town of 9,000 or so where I live, will walk with me. So, it is Jesus and me walking amongst these VERY lost children of His. In the past couple of months I was incarcerated for ten days, my civil liberties stripped from me against my will and was face-to-face with a raging alcoholic women whom tried to kill me. Satan prowled my bedroom roaring in the night, I woke from sleep asked our LORD why there was a lion roaring in bedroom, I acknowledged His calm and peace beyond all understanding, and then went back to sleep. I have had monies stolen from me and a whole neighbourhood ‘posse’ after me to move out of the area. Our LORD moved me all right. Right beside a church. All praise and glory to Him for ALL of it. Why? Simply put, I love all of these very lost children of our LORD because I have been brought through the fire and have lived through almost everything untoward possible.

      The LORD and me are ‘working’ with a woman who is one of 22 children. Her mother allowed her brothers to continually rape, beat with an axe, and burn their cigarettes into the flesh of her and her older sister from the time they were infants. These heinous acts were stopped when the mother ordered the murder of the sister and this woman (I will call ‘M’) fled home to live on the streets of Gastown in Vancouver. One of M’s brothers was involved in a drug deal that went ‘bad’. M and her sister watched as their brother murdered a man and hanged him from a tree. The mother knew that the sister (16) could witness in court, so she ordered her murder. M fled to Gastown and was picked up by the Satan’s Choice motorcycle gang. She later joined the Hell’s Angels until the LORD brought a Born-Again Christian man of whom was an RCMP officer to M. When Jesus puts His Foot down, He puts it down!

      By this time M had given birth to her own sister. She could have aborted the child but chose not to. M married the RCMP officer and began to learn about Jesus. M was very sceptical. She couldn’t understand how such a loving God could allow her to go through such a heinous life. Further to what she had already lived, her daughter or sister that she gave birth to died on the operating table during a heart operation. Subsequently her son was killed instantly by a drunk driver and her husband eventually died of Hungtington’s disease. She never accepted Jesus as Master and LORD over her life and is vehemently against all ‘religion’.

      Jesus brought her to me. You see, secular statistics are such that 95% of women whom are sexually abused under the age of 6 (when their brains are growing at rapid rates) end up incarcerated in a mental institution, prison, or homeless. I asked Jesus about the other 5% and in a vision, He showed me Himself (never His Face, rather an outline amidst a great glow) seated, Head bowed and a single tear slid down onto the scar in one of His wrists. I thanked our LORD for allowing me to be one of the 5% that went to Him for healing for the brain damage to the thalamus. In the secular world, doctors say that once the thalamus is damaged, it is permanent. Permanent brain damage. This part of the brain controls the ‘fight or flight’ aspect or more simply put, anything to do with human survival is thwarted and damaged. We are thrown into the world willy-nilly without the knowledge of life skills or survival and end up scrambling for any kind of life and love we can grasp onto with bloodied fingernails.

      It is the healing process that He is beginning to take M through even though she hasn’t accepted Him. Yet. :) It’s not often I ‘see’ how the LORD heals. Mostly we hear about the laying on of hands for healing, etc. Jesus took another route with me and it is this kind of healing that I am sharing with M and others of our Father in Heaven’s VERY lost children.

      One day as I lay flat on my back in my bedroom amongst the stench of the crack cocaine dealers above me, I asked the LORD if He could do something about this and bring about healing. Next thing I know, in a vision, before my eyes was a giant, fuscia-coloured peony flower. I watched as the petals rippled in a breeze. I wondered about the breeze and then saw that the flower was held by a thumb and forefinger. I realized that it was Jesus holding the flower and breathing life into it until I saw my own wee, smiling face when I was about three years old. I was filled with joy when He said, “I found you!” Apparently, we had been ‘playing’ hide-n-seek.

      I watched as our LORD gently pulled away the petals to reveal my shrivelled up, down-trodden, spent and broken body. It looked more like that of a flattened worker bee than anything human. Shame washed over me as I didn’t want Him seeing me like that. He kept breathing the breath of life into me until my body grew large enough to match that of my wee face and I was out of the flower and snuggled against His Bosom looking out of the folds of His Robe. He then placed a HUGE picture book in front of us and began to read. Our LORD took it upon Himself to re-parent me…

      Next, He showed me myself hidden amongst myriad fuscia-coloured peony bushes in front of a dilapidated house complete with broken windows. The front door hung limply on broken hinges. I was summoned inside the house by a horrid voice. I stood in front of a man seated on a sofa with his trousers rumpled about his ankles. He was bellowing, “You flithy, dirty, little girl! Get up to the bathroom and wash yourself!” In the bathroom I stood in front of the sink lathering my arms and wondering why I was so dirty as my mother had given me a bath the previous night and had even washed my hair. I looked out the window at the gray laundry flapping on the clothesline when something white caught my eye. Jesus was standing beside the laundry and He was smiling at me.

      After washing myself as best I could and seeing/knowing Jesus was there, I was filled with great joy as I practically skipped down the stairs to where the man with the horrid voice sat. My dad was seated beside him. I couldn’t help being happy while they bantered at me whatever it was they were saying. I couldn’t hear them and I really couldn’t see them any more because the glow and glory of our LORD stood on the threshold between the kitchen and living room. I ran outside filled with joy and joined Jesus in the fuscia-coloured peony bushes and we played and sang songs together.

      The last thing Jesus showed me during this particular time of healing was an outing I took with my dad and two brothers when I was a little older –perhaps 6 or so. Dad had taken us on a picnic in the country-side somewhere. My dad watched me very carefully when my brothers and I went about exploring the skeletal remains of a burned-down house. I began singing, ‘windows and doors’, over-and-over again. The LORD showed me what He did with that house and with that man with the horrid voice. Jesus stood upon a knoll not far away. His sorrow filled my heart. And then His great joy filled me when I realized that those awful memories had been washed clean and replaced with Himself showing me that indeed He was there through it all. I share these healings with M and others and ask them to go back into their memories and look for something white. Often, they find Jesus. :)

      Our LORD has asked me to share this and I’m not entirely sure why–other than Ally and CKS’s comments brought me to tears– but obedience to Him is a God-given and lovely gift. The ‘story’ of Jesus and His love for His creation is the greatest love story ever told and playing out moment-by-moment, and it’s even recorded by Solomon in the Book of Songs or Song of Solomon or the Song of One Man. His great love –the love that I had sought my whole life– doesn’t exist on earth the way I always wanted it to be or find in a friend or a mate or…whatever. Rather, this Great Love is found through Jesus and His great Love for His Bride as referenced in verse 2 of chapter 1: “Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.” The very first miracle recorded in our Heavenly Father’s Holy Word, was when Jesus turned the water into wine at a wedding and His mother uttered the very first prayer to Him: “They have no wine.”

      No matter what has happened or to whom, our LORD heals up the broken-hearted and sets them free. Until our Father in Heaven’s VERY lost children come to our LORD with this choice, please try very hard not to judge His walking-wounded. Rather, please turn to Jesus and walk toward His great Love and walk so closely and so steadfastly that you begin to shine and glow and bear the fruits of His Love so strongly that His Smile and His great Love speaks to you and says: “Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away with me.” Song 2:10

      Thank you for listening and may keep His Hands upon you and bless you with the abundant life only He can deliver.

      ~mary
      xox
      +
      “Make haste, my beloved, and be thou like to a roe or to a young hart upon the mountains of spices.” Song 8:14

      “He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.” Rev 22:20

  22. Ally said

    NM-or someone else who is good ar posting links, please find and link. It is the blog of a mother with 2 teenage kids at the Co shooting inside the theatre just a few feet away from the shooter. A strong Christian, its uplifting not depressing.
    Her blog name is a miniature clay pot july 20 thanks!

    • Ally said

      Also, I was kinda scared to come back and read what had been written later this morning after I posted. I was really scared people might attack me but instead everyone was so kind and uplifting and supportive. I sad down in the middle of my floor and wept. There are real Christians here! That my friends is a rare thing, a very rare thing indeed, and a thing the world is sorely lacking! Thank you again!

    • Real Christians do not defend the slaughter of innocents simply because of financial concerns!

    • lamarzulli said

      Rodney – Not sure who you are or what your background is, but I would suggest you ease up a bit. You’re making statements that attack me and I will not tolerate it. Last warning. L.A.

    • Good word, Ally! I see why you wanted it posted.

      “http://aminiatureclaypot.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/so-you-still-think-god-is-a-merciful-god/”

    • Wow Rodney. Blessed are the merciful for they shall receive mercy. No one defended abortion here. We just know that God is big enough and powerful enough to forgive all of our transgressions. All have fallen short from the glory of the Lord.

  23. Ally, I agree that all aborted babies go to Heaven. They are like the children before they reach the age of discernment, who go to Heaven.
    Did you know that the majority of pregnancies end up in miscarriages? I read that, anyway. The mother does not know a pregnancy has occurred, because it is very early.
    I had an early miscarriage, and it made me very sad, but I gave the baby a name and hope to see her again. Also I found an old Bible which had my stillborn aunt recorded in it, with no name, which I thought was cruel or at least an oversight, so I wrote in a name. My grandmother said the dead baby was “perfectly formed and pale as a lily”, so I named her Lily.
    We have to realize that life is a slaughter. I am not for abortion except when it is necessary to save a life, as in the case of a poster here, whose 14 year old daughter developed seizures. I am not going to second guess what else doctors could have done, like drugs, to stop the seizures; some people cannot take seizure drugs without severe–very severe–responses. Even Rick Santorum’s wife had to choose whether to take antibiotics which would kill her unborn child Gabriel at five months, because he had a serious disease, or to save her life by taking the antibiotic, which brought on a spontaneous abortion. When people like the Santorum’s have to make such decisions, they are called hypocrites. If you read the whole tale about Gabriel, you will realize that Karen Santorum would have been committing suicide if she had not taken the antibiotic.

    Some of us seem to not have been blessed with perfectly smooth lives or even lives we can comprehend in Biblical terms. I never, thank God, had an abortion, but I did have an early miscarriage in which a tiny fetus was spontaneously aborted at home, so that I could see it. Her name is Mary Adele.
    Tragedies like this occur.

    • Matt said

      Mary Adele is a beautiful name, Sorry for your loss. How awesome it will be to see her in heaven when the time comes.

    • Deirdre said

      Mariel, True words! Thank you for being open and sharing.
      Blessings, peace and healing upon all these families…

  24. Eli Mac said

    LA I’ve read your book and you are on to something but I believe it is vital that we distinguish between Zionism and Judaism. The reason for the hatred of the Jews is because of Zionism that constantly get confused with Judaism. The two could not be further apart.

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