4th Amendment ALERT!

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L. A. Marzulli

Supreme Court OKs warrantless searches


 No right to resist illegal cop entry into home


INDIANAPOLIS | Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.

In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer’s entry.

“We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence,” David said. “We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest.”


4th Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. 

Many Americans are overwhelmed by trying to make ends meet, avoid foreclosure, saving for their children’s college education, and are so overworked and exhausted that they don’t have time to keep up with the ongoing assault on their constitutional rights. Then there’s the Lame-stream media that makes sure we hear about “the Donald” not running for president, the INF sex scandal, the Governators love-child, Lohan’s pending jail time, the Casey Anthony trial, and of course my favorite, the winner of this years American Idol, rather than important stories like the two that I linked to above.

Meanwhile many of the good citizens of Leave-it-to-Beaver-la-la-land, don’t realize that one of our most fundamental rights, secured and guaranteed by our constitution, is being ripped from the fabric of our society. This new law passed by the Feds and then by the state of Indiana sets a new low for government intrusion. Now, the jack-booted thugs can come into our homes without a warrant, rummage through all of our personal belongings, papers, cupboards, computers, and take what they want. I thought this only happened in Nazi Germany and in Soviet Russia? Well, I guess I’m wrong because natural law advocates have taken a back seat to the Positivists, who will tell us what’s good for us. Say goodbye to freedom, and say hello to fascism.

This new change of law, is blatantly unconstitutional and the American people need to rise up and protest against this tyranny, because tyranny is what it is. Make no mistake about it, if we sit back and do nothing, at some point they will burst into your neighbor’s house and perhaps your house and drag you away. What’s next the suspension of our Habeas Corpus rights? Will the government deem it necessary to hold us without charges indefinitely? This is what is happening in Guantanamo, under the ruse of National security and the threat of  terrorism.

In closing today’s post: Our Constitution was penned by those who believed in the inalienable rights of the individual. The fourth Amendment was put in place to assure the citizenry that illegal, unfounded, search and seizures, would not be allowed. A man or woman’s home is his or hers castle and our constitution guarantees that right. This new law undermines that basic freedom and needs to be changed post-haste! Rise up and let your voice be heard, or do nothing and lick the boots of your new master…


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58 thoughts on “4th Amendment ALERT!

  1. They warned us of this stuff in my 9th grade us gov’t class in the 90’s. I wonder what my teachers would say now?

    Here’s my projection. This will set a horrifying precedent, other states will do it and it may become the law of the land. Maybe the supreme court won’t go for it eventually BUT io highly doubt they will actually decide in favor of the people.

    THEN they will start rounding up Christians as “terrorists”

    Other news, I bet the iran venzuela thing, is just fodder to make us think we need to attack iran. It just smacks of propaganda.

    Rael’s 21 points, should I even look at it? What a crock that guy is. Maybe I will if I need to be horrified and laugh at the same time.

    Thx LA

  2. lord (small L is on purpose) is so creepy! #18 even says this thing was born breach…..backward and wrong….signature of satanic crap!

    • Agreed, that pic of ra-XX is uber creepy. Anyone notice how the area around his third eye looks really weird? I’d suspect he’s highly demonized. And talk about torturing the text.

      Its also conveneint how he’s going to have a may 21 announcement as well.

      BTW, is anyone else having connection issues getting here? I’ve tried a few times and it says connection issue. I tried again and it was ok.

      La musta hit a nerve.

  3. Thanks for bringing this to the forefront La,this is of major importance indeed.scary stuff and yet one more step in the enslavement of America.

  4. i find it hard to believe that there are so few comments about this serious unconstitutional issue ,if people care this little we are in worse shape than even I thought.Make no mistake if you think you have nothing to hide so it does not concern me-you are so wrong,just wait till they are coming in for our Bibles etc.I felt the same way when bin laden was assassinated illegally ,people were so glad he was dead that no one seemed to even care that it was illegal. The president does not have the right to just put out a kill order on anyone.This is against the constitution,international law and several treaties.Am I glad he is dead,probably so but not that way,what ever happened to rule of law?

    • It has bothered me from the moment I heard about it. I don’t have a lot to say about it, though…I’m still stunned silent by it. It’s just too shocking. And no one in my real life is mentioning it! When I mention it to them, they’re surprised…then move on to other topics of conversation. I don’t understand how this is happening but no one is so obviously up in arms about it around me. ??

    • Yes, the constitution is dead, and so is american’s thoughts of caring about it.

      But, in any event, what can we do about it? God allowed it to happen. My thoughts are rather than protest, or whatever, we should be preparing to witness underground for when Christianity becomes illegal.

      How, I don’t know. Stocking up on podcasts and teaching materials? Bibles? Trusted friends?

      Idk, we’ve got a rough road ahead, pray for strength.

    • What can we do about it? God says “Resist the Devil and he must flee” that’s what we do about it.

    • SUppose George Washington had said “What can we do about the King’s Tyranny? God allowed it so we are powerless”

    • Yes, resist the devil, not governments. Our war is a spiritual one (eph 6:12).

      Not to mention GW was a mason. I follow Jesus before george.

      We can resist the devil by spreading the gospel. Physical means of struggle are meaningless. The beast kingsom will come. Its prophecied. We can’t stop it, but we can save people from it and warn them about it.

    • Frank we wrestle not again flesh and blood but against powers and principalities , the devil is running and heavily intertwined within the Government.There are a few decent people in high positions of the govt. but very very few.When we resist tyranny in any form imo we resist the devil.

    • Randy,

      In a way that is true, but in a way it can be misleading. Imo, I’ve found the best way to fight the devil is on my knees, praying to God.

      We should I guess help those who are oppressed, but how far does that go?

      I still think the best way to resist tyranny is to follow Jesus and share His love with individuals who are open to hearing the Word. Governments oppress the people, the best way to fight satan’s misuse of those in high places is to snatch the victims away. Convert’em. The real battle is over lost souls, the tyranny we are under is merely a symptom. Cure the disease, the disease of a sin laden soul, Jesus is the answer. Only He can win any lasting victory over tyranny.

      Look at His example. He had a chance to resist the tyranny of the worst empire in recent memory, rome. But what did He do? He fought the spiritual battle and won on the cross. Where would you and I be if He resisted rome?

    • Grant, please hear my heart. Yes, James does say to “Resist the devil”. But often we take this out of context and think that if we “Resist the devil”, then we will win any attacks from the enemy of our souls. I am not saying this is you Grant, but this is what I have experienced from the Body as a whole, including myself in former years.

      The context of that which James is speaking of are individual Christians who are living with the desires of the world which are contrary to the desires of God. He seeks to show the way to avoid the consequences of such living.

      As you read James 4 in context, you see he is saying that the cure to falling for worldly lust and desires is to, “Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and He will come near to you. Wash your hands you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double minded”. James 4:7-8

      This was one of the first passages of Scripture I had my children learn before they could even read. It was also one of the first passages that I learned as a baby Christian almost 30 years ago.

      Yes, we must resist the devil. But if we are only doing that and doing so on our own strength we are destined for failure. There are few things he wants more than for Christians to “resist” him on our own strength. Remember, FIRST we must “Submit” ourselves to God. After we have submitted our will to God’s will, THEN we can resist the devil. Not only that, but we are told to “Come near to God”. Why? This is one of the great Truths of the Bible that the Body has missed out on for too long now. The reason is because IF we submit to Him, resist the devil and come near to God, HE WILL COME NEAR TO US.
      Who of us doesn’t want God to come near to us? Then finally we are to “Wash our hands” because we ARE sinners and “Purify” our hearts because we ARE double minded. Are we not?

      James does not mince words here and I am SO personally grateful that he doesn’t. So yes, resist the devil…but if that is all we TRY to do, then we are not carrying out God’s full command and missing out on such tremendous blessings as having Him come near to us after we have come near to Him. You notice the obvious step by step in this passage and it is there for a reason.

      We ALL are sinners, double minded and in need of purification. The ONLY way we can even THINK about winning this nation back to God…and I personally believe it possible…is for revival to begin in MY heart first. And each and every man and woman here on this great BLOG should want the same…to have revival start in their own heart.

      Once we allow God to have HIS way with us, then and only then can this world be changed.

      My goodness, I do truly apologize as I did NOT mean to preach a sermon. Grant and any others please do not take this as me pointing a finger at any person but me in what I just said. I just felt strongly led to share that.

      Respectfully in Christ,

      Jeff D

    • Great job jeff D.

      I know I resisted the devil on my own for years as a Christian and failed miserably.

      Last thing, as I said tyranny, etc by the gov’t is merely a symptom. I was listening to chuck missler, and this verse came up.

      If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
      – 2 chr 7:14.

      Perhaps iof we Christians (God’s people) did this, things might change.

    • A big problem is that the reason people don’t care is because they already thought you had to do whatever a policeman tells you. My former employer and I were having a conversation once and I mentioned the right to resist things like this being upheld by the courts-she accusd me of being a lunatic.

    • wow this was no surprise to me…it has been in the works behind the scenes for a few years now…they are just coming out with it to combat all the outrage…or to slap us in the face with our truely helpless nature in this country.

      my dad was wanted for questioning by police…(won’t get into details…but he was wrongfully accused of a crime)…and when he hired a lawyer (which is a citizens right)…law enforcement took his silence and defense as guilt arrested him. they held him in jail for around six months without arrainment, trial or a single shred of evidence proving his guilt..even though he maintained his innocence…he couldn’t post bail cause we come from a poor family. sad thing is his lawyer said legally they were trying to build a case against him…and could hold him indefinately without trial until the d. a. was satisfied. i was aghaust!

    • One thing that came to my mind about this right to search without warrant was because of something that happened a year or two ago when police raided a home where the family had a neighborhood food co-op. Is it possible that because of all the farmland being destroyed in these weather disasters (including the drought and fires in Texas as well as the flooding elsewhere) and the possibility of extreme food shortages, that the police will be given the right to search private homes and seize whatever they want, especially stored food and water supplies people may have in their homes? Maybe this is a crazy thought, but it did come to mind.

    • Thanks for the feedback,I was beginning to feel really alone there for a while.God Bless you all. And to my brothers and sisters in other countries who are also undergoing various stages of repression,stand fast.Just as Yashua cleaned out the moneychangers we all have a duty to do whatever we can legally to stop the rise of evil within our respective governments.

    • RIGHT ON Grant and Randy!!!! If I even start on this topic …suffice it to say Yeah, I agree “the money changers” and if the only thing (so to speak) we have left is our voice to speak and say no… and that something is wrong we should speak up.Like the saying about the Nazi’s coming for ppl and no one spoke until they came for them and you all should know the rest of that story.
      I understand what ppl are attempting to say, but also there has been so much false teaching that has made us,God’s people having no revelation on who we are and what salt and light is!
      I am so glad that this time Jesus is coming back as The Lion of Judah.He is coming as The King and now He dwells in and through us as we are being conformed into His Image and Likeness.
      Huzzah! We are the Church without spot or wrinkle that He will come and get,but first we will get to have some fun…yes seemingly amidst much darkness, however Jesus spoke about this as well.Find it.I know most don’t know this or believe it …perhaps there is someone out there who just needs to hear it again …
      Waiting(with expectancy) for the fullness of my redemption b/c it draws so near…selah and amen

    • Well, Randy, you got a point there, I did not care that bin laden got a bullet to the head and chest. What concerns me more is our long term relationship with Pakistan.
      When I see Senator Kerry visiting there and telling the American public how much we need Pakistan that only raises my doubts that this is a scam from day one. STOP all the aid to Pakistan. Kerry should hang his head in shame when he talks about that helicopter tail section, if Pakistan was an ally they would never have allowed China to view, measure and sample that tail section. It would have been guarded and returned to the US immediately. Kerry and the administration just want to keep paying off foreign nations and keep the US involved in the middle east which is where we do not belong.
      Ok here is another one about the corrupt Pakistani government; whenever we ship our military equipment that goes through Pakistan it is an understanding that we know all of our containers will be broken into and the government workers get to keep whatever they find in our containers. But we cannot say anything because we do not want to offend our “allies.”
      Or we can all join hands and sing kumbay-ya, and the centuries of Pakistani government corruption and terroristic culture will disappear overnight. Maybe even have the messiah Obama lead the hug session. I’d like to discuss this idea more but I am due back on planet earth.
      Our resources belong on our borders both North and South and those aid dollars should be spent deporting all the millions of illegals in the US.

  5. About the May 21st thing… (which I think is hogwash)… but, what if this is a set-up for a false Christ, a false Jesus to appear? A false judgement day/false rapture? When Jesus said “no one knows the day or the hour” … it seems like He is saying that because He already knows (duh, He knows everything) … that many peeps in the future are going to set a date and time… May 21, 2011… haaha, at 6pm! It would be creepy… but I guess we’ll find out soon enough… after all it’s only less than four days away. But has anyone thought that maybe this is a major set-up for a very tangible deception to get the ball rolling even faster? 😮

    • I think Harold may have a point about the timing: that day is the day Noah entered the ark. It didn’t start raining for 7 days after. That day on our calendar is the day Jesus ascended into heaven (40th day of the omer). Then 10 days later is Shavuot-Pentecost. We are in the season to be on high alert prophetically.

    • I think this may have some tie-in with the purposeful tripping of the New Madrid. The dates are all too coincidental.

    • One reason why the 4th amendment’s being crushed doesn’t register is that (I think), we’re preoccupied with the upcoming May 21, and for good reason. Either it is the Day or it isn’t. If not, we can then get on with our lives and register complaints about the amendment. If it is the Day of the Lord, then who cares about the other stuff?

    • This started a long time before Camping popped up. However,the same mastermind is behind both the false flag disaster and the false prophet.

    • My mom works at a hospital here in Ohio. She just brought home a letter and an email about earthquake drill operation “Shaken Horizons 11”.Its to take place from May 16-19. It is said to be “one of the largest in US history” and in effect for 7 states.
      I quote:

      “The new Butler County Emergency Operations Center will be tested for the first time in a full activation staffing 45 plus individuals fully trained and prepared for this type of large scale disaster”.

      Ummmm….WHAT!?!? I was unaware we had a “new” DISASTER CENTER!!! This is OHIO!!!Who funded this?! Who approved it?!

      I’ve been hearing for some time about FEMA doing a MASSIVE quake-drill, but I didnt think it would come to Ohio.Ohio is not in the zone of Madrid damage on the maps I’ve seen in the past…

    • Lynne I for one have not been at all concerned about the 21th of may,anyone of us may not even make it through the day so we must figure that for us individually our time of the end can be whenever.We must be ready every day every hour.I am surprised that you seem to put so much faith in it though.God Bless and hey if Harold is right(which i very much doubt)so be it.I just do not see it lining up with Revelation myself.

    • Hmmm… interesting, Rose… about the New Madrid. :-/

      Lynne… unfortunately, we humans have the capacity to worry about more than one thing at a time… on the flip side of that, we also can hope for more than one thing at a time. The 4th amendment matters a whole lot.

      May 21 is false… bottom line… but that doesn’t undermine the fact that a force can be behind it. We are so used to seeing these date-setters come and go, so it’s just annoying to us when they keep on coming… but with the days we are in now… maybe there is something lurking behind it… so that if something false does happen… people will be awed in deception. Just thoughts… if we are going to be aware about May 21, I would be keeping a look out for something evil…. not Jesus our Savior… He makes it pretty darn clear how He will return.

      Anyways, I hope it doesn’t turn out that way… sooner or later though, it will… just a matter of “when.”

    • “…maybe there is something lurking behind it… so that if something false does happen… people will be awed in deception.”

      Bingo. You’re spot on.

  6. I just uploaded this today…This is what I found on the NASA STEREO 195 Satellite this morning dated today:

    Not gonna believe this one…

    The full moving film is being uploaded right now. What is going on???

  7. I live in Indiana and heard this announcement last week.. on Saturday it was in the paper. We have 5 SC judges two of whom opposed it stating the 4th amendment and that the law was illegal. They were Justice Rucker and Dickson. I was appalled that this was allowed. It happened because of a man resisting arrest and all..but that is NO excuse to throw out the Constitution.

    I am one that believe that God had blessed our nation for many years bringing a hope of freedom and liberty to the world’s oppressed. It is still MY right as a tax-paying citizen to voice my opinion, to call or email my congressmen and senators! To say..God has allowed it is fine..but all it takes for evil to have control..is for GOOD men to do nothing! (my paraphrase)

    I’m with Randy.. because of the nation’s constitution and what our forefathers died for we have the right to speak up! WE should too. That is why things are as bad as they are now..too many Christians sat in the pews playing holy and righteous and did not speak up years ago! Then we step in too late to try to change things! Sorry… but I think the church is to blame for many of our liberal leaders and progressive thinking! Christians SHOULD have been in the arena..fighting to get elected and keep this nation in check! We didn’t..and now we are paying to price.

    I am one who believes that God allows who he wants in position of leadership..but the Bible teaches too, that when people disobey him, and do not follow his ordinances he will sit back and “let” them get what they ask for! (the Israelites wanting a King, for ex).
    I was gone today, but in the morning I plan to call the supreme court justices here in Indiana and speak to this issue! I write my congressman, senators and even the president when I disagree or agree with something they have done. I just wrote Obama concerning Michelle’s Let’s Move program where she did the dougie with school kids to “teach Me how to dougie”. The words are filthy, vulgar and very inappropriate! I asked him if he let his daughter’s listen to this garbage! I let him know that his wife’s actions was in poor taste and a bad role model for our nations children! I’m probably on his hit list but that’s okay. At least he knows where I stand!

    We need to stand up for righteousness and speak up for our youth! As a citizen and as a Christian! Just my opinion, guys, but I know L.A. speaks up too on his radio show..I just do it the way I can!

  8. As regards the “unjust judge” messing with constitutional rights — the suggested tactic is to keep bugging him. (Luke 18:1-8)

    “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” (Matthew 10:28)

    The Just Judge is more than well able to “avenge the elect,” considering the Revelation.

    Shown here sequentially by chapters… The Revelation “telescopes” or “is folded”

    01(02-03 (04-05(06-07 (08-09 (10 (11 (12a-12b) 13) 14) 15-16) 17-18)19-20) 21)22

    And also spatially arrayed below… since St. John was given a tour of the Heavenly throne room, with a preview of the End Time plans, which relates to the tabernacle plan given to Moses from God of old.

    __12a-12b__ “woman laboring” “manchild saved” (altar / Passover)
    ___11-13___ “Two Witnesses” vs “Two Beasts” (laver / Unleavened Bread)
    ___10 14___ “7 Thunders” “First Fruits (lampstand / Pentecost) (table / First Fruits)
    08-09_15-16 “Trumpets”_”Vials” (censer / Trumpets)
    06-07_17-18 “Unsealed”_”Babylon Destroyed” (ark / Atonement) ark and mercy seat still “overlap”
    04-05_19-20 “Mercy Seat”_”Judgment Seat” (seat / Tabernacles) satan as scapegoat cast into bottomless pit during millennium

    02-03_21___ Churches_New Jerusalem (Christ in the midst of His Church)(The Lamb in the midst of His City)
    ___01_22___ Christ as The Lamb_Soon Coming

    It seems to me in Ch. 12 that Heavenly Jerusalem labors to birth the Kingdom of Heaven openly (the manchild) on Earth in fulfillment of the Our Father prayer. But the dragon tries to take it by force. The manchild is then rescued (a Passover event). And the woman is given refuge — on earth!

    Are the Two Witnesses from Heavenly Jerusalem? Do they represent the woman from Ch. 12 given refuge? What they do, the two beasts then try to counterfeit, ending with the 666 kingdom on earth and Two Witnesses resurrected and ascended back to Heaven.

    Can’t say much about the 7 Thunders. (…possibly related to dimensional portals opening …accompanied by voices(windstorm), lightning, and quakes. But I suspect that those “lampstand / Pentecost” events (7 Thunders) happen about the same time as the “table / First Fruit” events.

    Basically, the vials (smoke and incense from the censer) continue what began in the Trumpets, (trumpets and vials almost in lock step).

    The “ark & mercy seat / Atonement & Tabernacle” are also likely largely overlapping. In any case, it would be hard for the Great Multitude assembled in Rev. 4 & 5 to come out of Great Tribulation before there’s a Great Tribulation. So the “Throne” events happen near the end.

    St. John on the other hand, started on one side of the Throne, went up to the “altar / Passover” area of Ch. 12 (which is also folded) and returned down the other side again to the Throne.

    The letters to the churches (The Bride) happen before the end time. The New Jerusalem (Lamb’s Wife) section happens hereafter.

    Of course the book starts and ends focused on Christ seen Spiritually as the Lamb Slain.

    Though St. John’s tour started at the Throne in the Heavenly Throne Room / Temple — I’m fairly convinced that the actual end times start in Chapter 12. Followed by Two Witnesses vs the Two Beasts confrontation and so on.

    Does great tribulation come before or after the 666 system? Before or after the Two Witnesses? How can every creature praise God in Rev. 5 unless that event is near the end rather than the beginning of the end time???

    Revelation 5
    “13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.”


    Revelation 7
    “9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

    13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sits on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.”

    God gave Moses the tabernacle plan and the holy days sequence — for a purpose. It helps to be able to recognize them in the Revelation.

    • Revelation 9- The 6th angel sounding his trumpet sounds like it is describing nuclear warfare. Something like a snake with power in its head that has the capability to kill a third of mankind. A rocket tipped with nuclear warheads would fit this description.

      Revelation 10- The 7th angel coming down from heaven with the little scroll. I believe this is when UFOs are finally disclosed to the world in full public view. This would be fitting after a nuclear war, since they presumably will be our “saviors”. The description sounds like a craft having fiery pillars for legs, robed in a cloud and a rainbow above his head. I also believe this craft will hold a false messiah claiming to be Jesus, Maitreya and other religious figures. The 7 thunders could be smaller crafts that surround the larger one, which not only describe their audible sound but also describes they are subordinate to large entity that gives the loud shout like the roar of a lion.

      It is interesting to note that lightening proceeds thunder, but there is no mention of lightening in this passage. It is also said that Jesus will come like lightening in the sky. So this event as described in Revelation 10 will have all the appearances of the savior coming, but it will be false. They will also bring with them the little scroll which will contain a new religious doctrine (presumably one of unity and love) that will taste sweet (i.e. sound good to us), but will be bad for us (i.e. turn our stomach sour). The eating of the scroll metaphor is a common one to those who consume the word of God is said to have eaten it. So this is a false doctrine of God that will be given to all peoples and nations.

  9. It is very interesting that this Right leaning court gave us Citizens United and now are ready to take away the 4th ammendment.

  10. Hudson Taylor, a missionary to China and founder of the China Inland Mission which is now Overseas Missionary Fellowship once said : “We need not great faith but faith in a great God!”. In these difficult times may God strengthen our faith to help us overcome. This world is not our real home and place of rest.


    [4] By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
    [5] By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
    [7] By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
    [8] By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
    [9] By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
    [17] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
    [20] By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.
    [21] By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff.
    [22] By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.
    [23] By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment.
    [24] By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter;
    [27] By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.
    [29] By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.
    [30] By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
    [31] By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
    [32] And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
    [33] Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
    [34] Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
    [35] Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
    [36] And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
    [37] They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;
    [38] (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
    [39] And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
    [40] God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

    • In Christ, it’s faith which works by love that makes the difference.

      Galatians 5
      “1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

      2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.”

  11. And so it begins….Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles


    “Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.”
    Sara Brady
    Chairman, Handgun Control Inc, to Senator Howard Metzenbaum

    If this report is indeed true, it indicates to me that the Obama Administration is attempting to destroy the Civillian Marksmanship Program by bleeding it dry of the historic rifles it refurbishes and makes available to qualified American citizens and youth programs for target shooting, educational and recreational purposes.

    The only time you’ll see a 60 year old M1 rifle being wielded in anger “on the streets” (as Obama opponents are so fond of saying) is when Clint Eastwood did so in the movie “Gran Torino.”

    This gov’t wants to ban all Americans from owning firearms. They will ignore our Constitution and do what they want to do, this is why elections are so important especially now when we have the chance to remove some of the Anti-Gunners in congress.
    The Washington Marxists are telling us what kind of light bulb to use, what temp to keep our homes, what kind of toilet to use, what medical service we can have, how much money we can earn and keep, what kind of car or truck we can have, what we can be taught in school, how we can do business with our banks, what we cannot do with our land, when we must sell our land for the the greater good of society, what kind of food we can eat, what we can watch on tv and the internet. Of course they can tell us if we can bear and keep arms.

    • Welcome, Welcome, welcome to the New world order dictatorship

      We will decide who lives and who dies!

      now, now, now just do as you are told!

      We are on the winning side Matt. Amen!

      john b

  12. Doonesbury on the 21’rs – “judgment day on saturday and end of time oct 21st.”

    Could be used as a conversation starter!

  13. I have a question that is a bit related to constitutional rights and privileges, but specifically about search and seizures. It is about the first amendment.

    I found out this morning my kindergartner is doing Yoga in her school classroom. I don’t so much have a problem with getting the kids out of seats, stretching and performing focus exercises, but I am very uneasy about the Hindu roots of more traditional Yoga. Am I over reacting here? Anyone else have kids that are being exposed to this?

    • Yoga comes as the peaceful serpent. it seems to be accomodating itself in many institutions being used for so calles stress relief.

      I have heard cases where some people become demonized by the longterm practice creating a Hindu mindset in denial of the christian Faith. what better target than a young child!

      I would take a stand against it, first by prayer then the removal of the young one from the invironment.

      John B

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