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Assad tried pro-Palestinian Golan stunt to foil Egypt’s Hamas takeover

Nakba Anger Points to Third Intifadah

I posted about the Third Intifada, all last week, warning that violence could erupt in the Middle East, that could then ignite a full-scale war. Thankfully this didn’t happen…. yet. It is Monday morning here on the west coast of the United States. It’s 10 hours difference in time from the Middle East. As of this post, things have quieted down and it would appear, at least for the moment that cool heads will prevail.

What we know is that the struggle for a “Palestinian” homeland isn’t over by a long shot. HAMAS will never recognize Israel and is calling for  summer uprising. Hezbollah remained strangely quiet during “Nakba” day, while Arabs poured across the Syrian border. 

Here’s what I think. With Egypt about to back away from the treaty that they had with Israel, for decades, anything can happen. Jordan may follow suit and then we are back to pre 1967 conditions where Israel is essentially surrounded by states that want to destroy her. We are living in tenuous times and we must realize that when the war breaks out it will send our fragile economy into a tail spin.

Here are some points to consider:

1. Gas prices will go through the roof if the Straits of Hormuz, or the Gate of Tears is closed with a radiological weapon.

2. When war breaks out, Obama will dither and allow the Arab states to attack without lending assistance to Israel.

3. The attack against Israel may be coordinated with a terrorist attack in this country… think embedded dirty nukes.

4. Russia may join the fray as it is building a very large sea port in Syria and has aided the Iranians in their quest for nuclear energy so Russia has a dog in the hunt.

5. Ancient prophetic text warn of three events, if you haven’t read them you should now. PSalm 83, Ezekiel 38, and Isaiah 17.

In closing Todays post: There is a point of no return, a tipping point, and it is just on the horizon in my opinion. The Arab spring or awakening as it is being called is not about democracy. In my opinion it is a supernatural event that is being fanned long by entities that have long dominated this area, think the Prince of Persia here as we are told about in Daniel. War is coming and when it does it will be a game changer.


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  1. The legs of Iron in Daniel is Rome…a divided empire..Now, the feet of clay and iron to me means that the emerging 4th Reich (the E.U.) is allowing others of different and more base societies to ally themselves together.

    Then, they get destroyed by The Stone, cut without hands, and be gone forever.

    Obama’s dithering is an understatement. Pray him out with Psalms Ch 109, please; in Jesus Name of course. He wants some sort of crisis so he can have Martial Law. OMG!

    I’m feeling weak with my salvation, as i have several bad habits, that I can’t correct, yet!

  2. L.A., looks like everybody’s at work today…I’m a retired electrician.

    A must read, especially for our Secretary of State is: “As America Has Done to Isreal” ‘The Result: Massive National Disasters’ by John P McTernan

    The Perfect Storm…One of a Kind, started brewing the final day of Bush’s Madrid Peace Talks, where he suggested that Jerusalem be divided.

    He came home, and The Perfect Storm trashed out his own personal, 3 story mansion on the East Coast…totally, inside and outside.

    Many other catastrophic events happened as well, and not just Natural ones eithr…a stock market melt-down which never should have happened, and about 20 other situations that are beyond coincidence.

    • “As America Has Done to Israel” is a good read and a sobering warning for the USA. God help us because our leaders either are ignorant or deliberately going against what God has established and promised to Israel. God bless the jews and Jerusalem. God made an everlasting covenant with Israel.

  3. Agree with LA 100%, things are really ready to EXPLODE, probably some tiny little infraction somewhere that no one sees coming will be the spark that lights the match.

    I also believe it will give Obama the opportunity (his reaction/handling of the EVENT) to get another “bump” in his ratings.

  4. Boy LA, that isn’t a lot to think about is it?

    I know for a while you’ve been warning about this stuff, and I read PP&S and really considered it a sound theory, and filed it away. Now, seeing things heat up more and more every year, I can see the coming Jesus closer every day. Good work keeping us posted on this, I thank you for your efforts.

    To stephen hawking: I think your theories and darwins theory was a good fairy tale as well. In fact, it often makes for interesting fiction, but at the end of the day I have to concede that these “scientific” dogmas are merely high sounding ideas of men. Reality is so much more interestig stephen

  5. This is a little bit of topic but since 21st of May is approaching, I would like to share my thoughts on Harold Camping and his “third time is the charm” prophecy. Sorry, being a little facetious here. There was talk yesterday about examining his prophecies and not quenching the Holy Spirit. Did you ever thought about it the other way around? Quenching the Holy Spirit with listening to false prophets/prophecies? Just a thought. I always give everyone a benefit of a doubt though (doubt that can be put away with the Word of God) so this is what I think:

    Matthew 24:35-36

    35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    Correct me if I`m wrong but the 2nd coming is on the day of the Lord (Immediately after the tribulation of those days…). And on the day of the Lord is the final judgment where heaven and earth shall pass away. Because I have heard teachings that this are two separate events and that`s how they justify their date setting. I believe that this is one event. No one knows the day of the hour but our Heavenly Father only. I believe that true believers will know the times and seasons (as is evident on LA`s blog) put to pinpoint the exact day is not for us to know.

    2 Peter 3:7

    7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

    2 Peter 3:10

    10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

    And a thought on that whole OT and NT dispensationalism. Look at what Zechariah says:

    Zechariah 13:1-5

    1In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

    2And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

    3And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.

    4And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

    5But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.

    This is NT time and I don`t view it as a dispensation. True, it pertains to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Look at the harsh judgment in verse 3. What lies will they be prophesying that they will receive such punishment? So, we clearly see false prophets harshly dealt with and if they are being viewed like this in Israel “in that day” how are our false prophets in the Gentile world viewed through God`s eyes? The most High God is the God of all through His Son.

    And on a side note, Eric Phelps said in a 2002 interview that there are 500 000 masonic pastors in the Southern Baptists alone, so there is a lot of people out there who are not serving our God (kinda like the stuff that happened in Ezekiel someone mentioned the other day), yet they are teaching and prophesying in His name. I am not saying that Camping is one, who knows, you don`t have to be a mason to be led astray, but just saying that there is a lot of traps out there.

    In brotherly love,


    • P.S. we know that Yahsua/jesus will come back on the feast of trumpets, but still this is a new moon and therefore a 48 hour period so…

    • Bozz,
      The verse, No one knows the day or hour is important but we have to put it in context. He was speaking to those sitting with him. The tense of the verb proves this:

      A primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent, G3700 and G3708; properly to see (literally or figuratively); by implication (in the perfect only) to know: – be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.

      This form of the verb is used in PAST TENSE only. There are many indicators that show that those who are watching in that generation in which these things take place will know.

      God Bless.

    • Can you clarify yourself? Are you talking about the 2nd coming or the pre-trib rapture? I assume you mean the pre-trib rapture. I am talking about the 2nd coming, I also believe the second coming is the rapture removing us from the wrath of the Lord, but that`s just me. How can He be speaking only to the apostles in past tense? It doesn`t make sense. In the book of acts it says, it is not for you to know the times and the seasons, so I agree we know the times and the seasons, they didn`t back then, but it clearly says in Matthew 24, only the FATHER KNOWS the day and the hour when it comes to the day of the Lord. How can that be in past tense? That is a timeless statement, meaning it pertains to all generations till His second coming.

      Lets also look at the fourth trumpet. If we take it literally, 1/3 of the day will be cut short. That means, that means that a 24 hour day will become a 16 hour day. The bible speaks about 1260 day great tribulation. The only problem is we think this means 24 hour days. But if that is thrown into the mix, nobody will know the day of his coming. This 1/3 of day shortening also means the tribulation will be cut short as it`s written. If we calculate the 1/3 reduction of 1260 24 hour days, we get 840 24 hour days. But nobody knows when this event that will cut the days short will take place. It can be at the beginning, it can be somewhere in the tribulation.

      I`ve heard also other interpretations of the third trumpet, meaning allegorical. Like the dream Joseph had, where he saw Jacob as the sun, his mother as the moon and his 11 brothers as 11 stars. Thus meaning that the third trumpet talks about people and has all-ready happened sometime in history. But I go along with the literal interpretation on this one and that it`s yet future.

    • Plus if we also take into account that everything will collapse around us and we won`t be able to go on the internet anymore to read what`s happening around us or watch tv… people assume that we will watch it on television like a basketball game or something haha, well I think it will be a more bumpy ride than that.

    • Acts 1 he’s essentially telling him, that doesn’t concern you. Different verb, but he’s saying ‘you’ in particular.

      6When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

      7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

      Now concerning Matthew 24, I’m just telling you in what context the discussion was- know is eido used in certain past tense only. (Matthew 24 and also in Mark) So that verse doesn’t pertain to this generation- future, who will see all the signs he just finished describing.

      How do you see Rev 3:3? These verses must be cohesive, line upon line.

      3Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

    • So, are you saying that date setting is a go-go? Besides our preparedness in the spirit, what should we watch for? A solar and a lunar eclipse. The thing with the eclipses is, they are months apart… Besides all the prophetic events these are the most important signs to watch for. For example on the Nasa site, you have next total solar eclipse on Nov 13 2012, but you don`t have a total lunar eclipse till April 15 2014 (first of the famous tetrad sequence). We have two total lunar eclipses this year (June 15 and Dec 10). The closest pattern is: March 20th 2015 – total solar eclipse, April 4th 2015 – total lunar eclipse

      If I remembered correctly a lunar eclipse is a bad omen for Israel and a solar eclipse is a bad omen for the Gentile nations. I don`t remember where I heard that. Probably from Mark Biltz.

      So what does watch means concerning this? The date (the hour) will revolve around solar and lunar eclipses…

    • Unless you believe in the secret rapture of course…then no one knows what to watch for, only that Israel is in the land…

    • I don’t know if you’ll be checking this again, but I’ll comment anyway.:) Because Daniel’s 70-7’s is a time oriented prophecy, we should be able to know when things take place. The feasts of Israel are an everlasting ordinance to observe and they are based on the moon in general terms.

      Jesus fulfilled the spring feasts and upon his second advent the fall feasts will be fulfilled (I have not come to abolish the law but to fulfill them) Joel 1 gives us detail of the events leading up to the day of the Lord:

      13Gird yourselves, and lament, ye priests: howl, ye ministers of the altar: come, lie all night in sackcloth, ye ministers of my God: for the meat offering and the drink offering is withholden from the house of your God.

      14Sanctify ye a fast, call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the LORD your God, and cry unto the LORD,

      15Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.

      Notice verse 14, they are descriptions of Yom Teruah (aka Rosh Hashanah). & Joel 2:
      1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
      15Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:

      16Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.

      Here’s what Yom Teruah is comprised of:
      Lev 23:
      23And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

      24Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.

      25Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.

      A holy convocation is a sacred assembly. Both are described as blowing of trumpets. This is the kick off of the 70th week. It just so happens that the full 70th week can be fulfilled from 2005-2012 if it is started on Yom Teruah of 2005. It ends on Yom Kippur 2012.

      The problem people are getting hung up on that they need to really pray and study is the abomination of desolation: I don’t believe there will be a 3rd temple, we are the temple. (Remember Jesus said there will be no stone upon another, your house is left to you desolate. Sounds to me like no 3rd temple) There will be no 7 year peace covenant, I think it means the reconvening of Daniel’s 70-7’s.

      I hope that clarifies my point of view, let me know if I have left anything out.

    • Bozz; I am in agreement. The day of the Lord has been misrepresented by many to mean the tribulation period. That is not the case!

      The tribulation is preliminary to the day of the Lord The day of God’s wrath= the wrath of the Lamb. No greater wrath shall there be to any soul than being cast into Hell-Fire the lake of Fire.

      The Day of the Lord is the day of The glorious return of Jesus in Judgment upon the peoples of all nations at which time we are removed (Raptured).2Thes1:5-12
      It is indeed (the Final judgment)For the Father judges no one, All judgment is given to the son. Jn5:22. Acts10:42.

      I differ a little from the current messianic trend with focus on Israel. all to their own.
      I look more at the Apostasy of churches and the shaking of the heavens and the earth as being the season that this unknown time and Day of consumation of all things is approaching.

      john B

    • I do not see Psalms 83 as prophetic.
      I understand it more like a heart rendering prayer for the confounding of ancient Israel;s enemies.

      we must be careful to always keep the scriptures in the context of originality. what I mean is; we just cannot pick chapters and verses to suit a particular Theological trend.

      john b

      john b

  6. FYI; “PETEN” translated in the Hebrew language literally means, “Serpent”, or “Asp”. Its the same translation given us by moses in Genesis when YEWEH was speaking of satan or lucifer. Coincidence…..?
    Don’t know

    • As is, the temple mount is a demonic high place.

      There’s the promise to restore the Tabernacle of David, which gives another location.

      Acts 15 (Amos 9:11)
      “12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

      13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

      16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

      17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.”

      He certainly didn’t mean the church.

      And the abomination of desolation can not defile a high place that is already defiled.

    • I believe that James is Quoting Amos as fulfillment of the current happenings, “the ministry of reconciliation by the administration of faith” being discussed at the council.

      I do not see this as a future event. Keeping in mind that the tabernacle of David was a humble tent pitched on Mt Zion an OT shadow of the tabernacle now valid before the lord in the Heavenly Jerusalem where the spirits of righteous men be enrolled, The church of Which Jesus said he would be the Builder.

      john b

    • Hi guys,
      I’m not sure what is being suggested but let me give a stab here at clarifying a few basic tenets.
      1) The Church is not the Temple.
      2) The Church is not Israel.
      3) Israel is Israel.

      We aren’t confused on these things, are we?
      And as far as the Temple Mount being defiled, we know it is defiled. That is what the blood and ashes of the red heifer are for. And when the temple/tabernacle is rebuilt, the area that the Al Aksa Mosque is on will remain under Muslim control. This is the court of the Gentiles, Solomon’s Porch, “trampled underfoot by the Gentiles” as prophesied by Daniel. Therefore the temple will be sanctified and ready to go.

      There are things being said about Israel on this blog that are borderline anti-Semitic. Yes, it is offensive because I am Jewish, but whenever someone starts getting this way, whether it’s the Zionist thing or the demonic replacement theology thing, I hurt for the perpetrators. God said, “Is Ephraim a dear son? Yet my heart yearns for him.” And, that when we can stop the sun from rising, he will abandon Israel. The remnant is *not* *not* *not* the Church. The remnant is people like me. Jews that end up turning to Messiah. Please be careful, because when being flippant about Israel, one pierces oneself through with curses galore. Please, don’t be cavalier about Israel.

      And if I misunderstood your posts, please pardon me. The message pertains to others, then.

      Bless Israel. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

    • For Jaqueline…

      Hebrews 9 and Romans 9 deal with this quite nicely.

      No animal’s sacrifice or blood can possibly sanctify anything after the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross as the Lamb Slain?

      The lesser can not replace the greater. Christ’s sacrifice once was all sufficient.

      And that means that the spirit behind Judaism is not of God. (the same goes for AngloIsraelism, replacement theology, messianic judiazers, rastafarians, black muslims, and those that “say they are jews and are not”)

      Nor is any material temple the True Temple.

      Nor is any worldly kingdom the Kingdom of God.

      The Israel of God is with Him in the greater assembly of saints in Heaven, including David, Joseph, Joshua, Moses, and Jacob. There’s no need to extend that to the Church in this world or those who have also passed on to be with Him. Those joined to Christ are Israel only by extension through Him, because we only become Children of God through Him. Without Christ we are nothing. I make no claim to being gentile nor jew (and definitely not Israelite).

      Beyond “neither greek nor jew, male nor female, bond nor free”…

      “17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and has given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not imputing their trespasses to them; and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.” (2 Corinthians 5)

      “14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.” (Ephesians 2)

      If you don’t believe what Paul has written, please plainly say so. I’m not here to argue nor debate. I do believe Paul is an apostle of Christ and his writings were inspired by the Holy Ghost.

    • JohnB

      Let’s look at the Book of Amos.

      “11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

      12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.

      13 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that sows seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.

      14 And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.

      15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.”

      Do you still believe these things have happened? Looks more like the Millennial Kingdom to me than Heavenly Jerusalem. Not in the least the part about building the waste cities (plural) and inhabiting them.

    • Hi NMM,

      So we are in agreement on a lot, and I’m glad you’re not here to argue! Me neither!! 😀

      -Glad to hear you affirm Paul wholeheartedly, “neither Jew nor Greek” in Christ. Agreed!
      -Only one true Temple, it’s in heaven; agreed!
      -We are built up into a holy temple; agreed!
      -Replacement theology is vile, along with all other false doctrines; agreed!


      I am confused by what seemed to be an insinuation that I don’t agree with Paul! Please tell me specifically where I gave that impression, Nomemoleste. I don’t want to sound like that.

      But NMM, I have a question: If the spirit behind Judaism is *not* of God, then is it satan who brought them into the land in these latter days? Or if it was God, then how can you say the spirit behind Judaism is not of God? As He promised in Ezekiel 37, “‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel.” He calls them His people still, and claims sole guidance over them.

      He who has the Son has life, he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 1 John 5. As far as eternal life goes, any Jew, Buddhist, Mason, satanist, or whomever can have life if they obtain Jesus. So we agree on that, I am sure. Only the sacrifice of Christ can save. But the temple and the sacrifices are absolutely decreed for the Tribulation, and God doesn’t say they are satanic. It is a legitimate throwback to God’s dealings with Israel exclusively, and not the goyim (nations). The syntax of Rev. 2-3 is Christian; it’s the letters to the churches. Then “after these things,” “meta tauta,” it’s all Jewish imagery and lexicon. It’s the divine pause button being unpaused.

      Daniel and Jesus tell us that the man of sin will end sacrifices and exalt himself in the Temple. The time of sacrifices will be legitimately restored by God because it is the seventieth week of Daniel. All that time between the 69th and 70th weeks (between the execution of Moshiach Nagid, Messiah the Prince, and the man of sin, the “prince that is to come”) was the Gentile age. That’s the big time gap.

      When the time of Jacob’s trouble comes, as Jesus called it, that 70th week is ticking and it is God and the Jews all over again. Ergo, the Temple and the sacrifices. Are they right-on, praising Jesus and Spirit-filled? No. Are the sacrifices saving their souls? No. But are they getting drawn inexorably to the point where all forsake them and they finally receive the “Spirit of grace and supplication and mourn for Him as one mourns for an only Son?” Yup! It’s not satanic!

      They are bound up in unbelief and all that, but God is working His plan, and they are the apple of His eye. . . and by the time He is done with drawing them back, the scripture says, “All Israel will be saved.” All! Alleluia! It will be glorious.

      (And no, I’m not saying all Israel is saved right now! There is no other name under heaven by which men must be saved. No brainer.)

      Anyways, those are my thoughts.

    • Jacqueline, every single person on this planet is impacted and influenced by satan from time to time. It is my opinion that whenever we have drifted from the Holy Spirit we are being worked on by the powers of satan.

      So to your comment, were the Jews brought into the Holy Land in the later days the work of satan or God? I say whether they were brought in by satan or directly by God, in either case it is done by the Will of God. Nothing satan can do is without the approval of God. Judas was influenced, perhaps possessed, by satan to fulfill Jesus on the cross. Peter was influenced by satan at a point. Job is a perfect story about satan being powerless unless God gives him the go ahead and in the end performs the Will of God.

      Ancient Israel has countless times through the bible been subjected to Her enemies to account for Her transgressions before God. In every instance, Israel was told that this was a lesson so that she would know the He is God and is in total control. I believe it important not to dwell to much on people’s missteps or sins, because in every mistake we make there is grace that pulls us closer to God.

      I was given this simple lesson the other day, I believe, when I was delivering flowers for a local florist for Mother’s day. That day I was walking particularly close with the Lord and filled with the Holy Spirit. I was curious and asked God about how we perceive His presence in our daily lives.

      While I was delivering I made mistake after mistake, missing turns and misreading the addresses. In EVERY mistake I made that day, it turned out to be a hidden benefit. I may have missed a turn, but when I went to the next house and doubled back to the house I missed, I arrived at the house precisely at the time the home owner was returning from an errand. I would have missed them had I not missed the turn in the first place. I actually started to get a thrill when I made a mistake, because I happily anticipated what the resultant benefit would be. It turned out to be my best delivery day ever.

      All this to say, lets not dwell too harshly if any perceive our current people or nations (and this goes for the United States cuz some on this blog have gotten upset at the insinuation that USA has lost her way), because GOD IS IN CONTROL. Every misstep we make comes with merciful grace that is for His Will!!

    • To put a finer point on it, the origins of the modern Jewish state of Israel can be traced back to World War I (and even prior to then with settlers trying to escape persecution from Russia) with a connection to the Rothchild’s in the Balfour Declaration of 1917. None of these actions or people could be considered particularly holy or righteous, but they had a hand in Israel’s formation. However, given that God is the Alpha and Omega knowing the beginning to end, all of these historical events happen under the control of God for His will.

    • Hi Hopeful, I am only disagreeing with the statement that the spirit behind Judaism is not of God. Of course the Rothschilds, who “claim they are Jews but are not, but are a synagogue of satan,” are not operating under the Holy Spirit. I agree with you on the influence of the evil one hitting everyone. And their hearts are veiled every time Moses is read. I know this. I have Jewish family and I witness it all the time. I see satan stealing the word from their hearts left and right.

      What distresses me is the thinly veiled anti-semitism lurking in SO MANY Christian remarks. It grieves me like crazy. I grew up reading about the holocaust and imagining I was Anne Frank. I guess you have to be Jewish to understand. Any other Messianics out there to back me up?

      It is an easy leap from, “The spirit behind Judaism is not of God” to another holocaust. My kids get told all the time that they are not Christians because they are Jews. This by homeschooled evangelical children. I just wish people would take God at his word and stop hyperanalyzing. It is utterly pernicious. If God calls Israel the apple of His eye, tells you to bless ’em so He’ll bless you, and tells you if you mess with them, you are messing with Him, then it just doesn’t make sense to me why bible-believing Christians get so cavalier dissecting the Jewish condition and calling them satanic and defiled.

      My old pastor did this last year. I called him out and warned him that He was touching the apple of God’s eye and I grieved for him and his congregation. A few months later, his church reached an impasse over financial issues and split up in a schism.

      My husband’s grandma lost her mom, dad, and sisters in concentration camp. She escaped with her brother and could not even speak of it without reliving it. My grandma fled the slaughter of Jews during the Bolshevik Revolution. I guess you have to belong to a hunted people to understand what it’s like to be called satanic and defiled. I wish Christians would just bless and not curse, that’s all. And more for their own sake than any other.

    • Jacqueline – I too am a student of the Holocaust and believe like you that Israel and the Jews are the apple of God’s eye. The church is grafted in… L.A.

    • Jacqueline! How awful that as you said, ” it just doesn’t make sense to me why bible-believing Christians get so cavalier dissecting the Jewish condition and calling them satanic and defiled.”
      I guess they have forgotten that Christ and all the Apostles were Jewish! I don’t remember reading anywhere that Jesus ever told anyone to stop being Jewish to be saved!
      I was not born Jewish but I also imagined what it was like to be Anne Frank and I just watched the “Pianist” again….still have to dvr it because I just can’t handle the horror in one sitting. Christians like your ex pastor should be given something by Corrie TenBoom to read and maybe kearn about real Christianity!

    • Jacqueline, please don’t misunderstand me. I do hear your concern about the slippery slope into antisemitism. Trust me… nothing could be further from the truth in my heart, and of course I can only speak for myself. To be honest with you, I do not like to call myself a Christian. I like to consider myself a disciple of Christ. In that way, perhaps I aspire to be Jewish as that is what Christ is. Kind of funny if you think about it in those terms.

      My grandfather was first amongst his regiment to march into the concentration camps and liberate them. He was so very moved to action about the atrocities that he witnessed. Of course this could never compare to those who lived it. He left an impressionable mark on me when he would tell me about those stories, because he never wanted for anything like that to ever happen again.

      Anyway, blessings to you in Christ. I don’t distinguish race or nationality, but I do recognize God’s chosen people.

    • There are a number of meanings associated with “judaism.” From Merrian-Webster:

      Definition of JUDAISM
      1: a religion developed among the ancient Hebrews and characterized by belief in one transcendent God who has revealed himself to Abraham, Moses, and the Hebrew prophets and by a religious life in accordance with Scriptures and rabbinic traditions
      2: conformity to Jewish rites, ceremonies, and practices
      3: the cultural, social, and religious beliefs and practices of the Jews
      4: the whole body of Jews : the Jewish people

      Religion doesn’t save anyone. Devils believe in God and tremble. Rabbinic traditions were dealt with by Christ.

      “Jewish rites, ceremonies, and practices” have some overlap with the actions of Christ. Same goes for #3. How much?

      And how much overlaps with demonic actions?

      What portion of the Jewish people are demonically controlled?

      Does Christ practice judaism? Does He identify with judaism? Did God institute judaism?

      I’d like to point out that I’ve asserted the following are demonic:
      1. catholicism
      2. islam
      3. syncretism
      4. judaism
      5. hinduism
      6. false christianity
      7. ancestor worship and/or buddhism

      Yes, I understand why anyone who practices such religions would object.

      Should judaism be excluded from the list more than any of the rest? Why the special treatment?

      I come to Jews in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ who we also call Yahshua Messiah. He is Son of God. He has come in the flesh, that by the death and sacrifice of His body, full payment of the penalties against sin has been made for all that accept this as a free gift from God. He overcame hell and death, resurrected, visited with many, and ascended to the Throne of Heaven. He offers the gift of eternal life bodily to us so that we may dwell with Him even after our own death and resurrection.

      Will you turn from judaism to Messiah? Some will say how can we change being a jew? I could talk about being born again….

      We may have to agree to disagree that judaism = jew. I’d assert judaism = religion. See above.

    • Thank you, L.A., thank you, Elaine, thank you, Hopeful. I appreciate it.

      NMM, I don’t know what to say. Some things you say are hurtful. First there was the insinuation that I reject the authority of Scripture: “If you don’t believe what Paul has written, please plainly say so.” Now you say, “Will you turn from judaism to Messiah? Some will say how can we change being a jew? I could talk about being born again….” You say this as if it is not plain from my posts that I love the Word of God in both His written and incarnate forms. NMM, I don’t want to needle dictionary definitions and hermeneutics and world religions with you. Your words are sharp and hurtful. That’s all. I don’t want to clash. It feels like the pontifications of the Pharisees. Sometimes the comment threads here just feel like they are long on words and short on kindness. I am of the naive sentiment that our words should all be edifying to impart grace to the hearer. I throw up my hands.

    • NMM, I stated earlier, and I stand by what I said, was you either have cloaked your soul with the Holy Spirit or you are unknowingly influenced by Satanic entities. That applies to any and all religions, including those that call themselves Christians. Peter himself was influenced by Satan. Can any of us say that we are immune to the devil’s influence then?

      I see what you are saying about Judaism, but my point from above is that I believe it kind of goes without saying, so why say it? In your defense, I hope Jacqueline doesn’t take your position so offensively that she overlooks that we are all people regardless of nationality and race and therefore subjected to the same demonic forces.

      This is why I don’t call myself Christian, but a disciple of Jesus. It is much more accurate to the nature of what is in my heart.

      My personal opinion is that a lot of the OT events were physical battles to stop demonic bloodlines and preserve Holy ones. Hence, description of God as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, importance of family lineage, importance of circumcision (which I believe is a physical way to identify God’s people so that their heritage is preserved), extermination of whole people’s who were connected to giants and on and on. Those that know how Satan was physically trying to mate and corrupt the human race would know why this is so important. Something changed from a physical to a spiritual battle between the OT and NT. I believe God’s children are less defined by our physical nature and much more inclusive to those who have a spiritual connection, albeit that actually may be the more difficult thing to attain and maintain. God seeks our hearts, whether we be Jew, Gentile and everything in between. We are grafted into His presense through the Holy Spirit.

    • Jaqueline,

      I can be kinder. I understand that you may take comments personally when I respond objectively and analytically not only for you but the larger group. It would have been better to leave your name off my responses or say that they’re not directed to you in particular.

      I’m assured that you’ve made your choice for Messiah and value His word and those He’s saved.

      You’re looking for more mutual support here in a tough battle with the world, not unlike Captain Eagle. I’m “against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” The Word is a Sword it cuts. The Truth sets us free.

      It hurt when I learned the USA was never really Christian and that so called mainstream churches not only tolerate but support ongoing daily wickedness such as abortion. Very like saying they support the holocaust of the jews. I no longer identify with such, even as a veteran. And indeed, the USA is better described as a false-christian nation…. That cuts. It hurts. Even LA Marzulli might have a hard time with me describing the US that way. And he’s well able to fend for himself.

      Hopeful_watcher is much more gracious while exploring similar concerns.

      I was wrong in not taking the effort to step back and see that from your viewpoint, and to hear what you were trying to tell me… that this all looked and felt like a personal attack.

      I get it. You’re not a sparring partner. You want to share in this group and support each other. And you’re not trying to defend judaism the religion, but jews and especially children.

      Ok. When it hurts less, please, when you can, forgive me.

    • Hopeful_watcher,

      As for letting things remain unsaid… say for instance to keep as much as possible with those caught in the battle, do you think we still have time for that?

      As regards the change from physical compromise (nephilim bloodlines) to spiritual compromise (demonic spirits compartmentalized off from the rest of our spirit) … we should explore that more in later blogs. I’m interested.

      Thanks for refereeing!

    • Dear NMM,

      Thank you so much for your very kind post. I really appreciate it. I am humbled by your apology and I accept it heartily. I am sorry, too, if perhaps I was too contentious or sensitive.

      I think you are absolutely right when you differentiate between a religion and people.

      And I’m very much in the battle, too, trust me. Oh my gosh, don’t get me started!! I’m more in the battle than I ever imagined when I enlisted! We need to unmask evil wherever it lurks. My tenaciousness in my responses is not really that I need support. I don’t come here for that, but rather for the sharpening and godly discourse I crave. My tenaciousness is because I believe that if we are not engaged in an edifying, humble, meek discourse where wisdom and gentleness drips from our mouths, we will wound one another, and we will be a bad witness. I want the Lord to read our posts and be proud of us. I believe that life and death is indeed in the power of the tongue. I really think God cares more about how we treat each other more than our stance on the finer points of eschatology.

      What you say about the US is interesting. I believe that the US from the get-go has been a nation of both glorious light and inconceivable blackness. I read Tom Horn and learn of the Masons hijacking our history and our role in bringing about the satanic endgame, I watch the spiritual stupor of our nation, but I also read of the Puritans, the Pilgrims, the First and Second Great Awakenings, the Abolitionist movement, the glorious spirituality of the American slaves, the Minutemen, and I think to myself that both great evil and great light both reside in America. I am not dogmatic about it because I don’t know enough, but it seems to me to be a dichotomy.

      But anyways, thanks so much for stepping back and hearing me. It is a great credit to you and I pray God blesses you in a special and unexpected and extravagant way today.

      Your servant in Christ,

  7. L.A.-RE: Camping post yesterday-I DID mean Lynne, NOT you! I didn’t know your name is Lynn. So sorry- I would NEVER take you, L.A. for a false teacher! I’m new to your website and blog, and I love it and agree with your postings. God bless. Also very much agree that once things like yesrterday in Israel are started, they become that “Tipping Point”, beyond which one can never go back. I believe that we are seing prophecy from God’s Word being played out before our eyes on the world’s stage.

  8. Here we go, more about how mainstream people realize these natural disasters are perhaps more than natural. Sadly, they just don’t get it, that these”natural” disasters are signs telling us that our King is coming soon.

    Its so sad, yet I understand. The apostle paul said the natural man cannot understand these spiritual truths. Its also humbling, because if God hadn’t chosen me to be saved in Christ, I would be just as lost.

  9. Is Stephen Hawking even a real person,I have never met him, never actually saw him,how can I be sure that HE is not a fairytale? Strange He wants me to believe he exists and Heaven does not! I know Heaven exists just not so sure about him.Perhaps he got it backwards? I have a nephew that does not believe in God but yet believes in aliens,and can not tell me who made the aliens if there is no God.I find this amazing because to me it is much harder to believe in aliens than to believe in God.I have always known God existed just would not follow Him until recent times because I was convinced that He hated me, when i was at a low enough point to let down my guard enough and turn to Him-man did He show me different.I guess what i am trying to say is people delude themselves into believing what ever they feel comfortable with. Sorry for rambling.Have a wonderful day all. Randy

    • LOVE IT RANDY! If a lost soul speaks of his own fall in the forest and there is no one around….does he make a sound? Reminds me of someone once asking me if I hate a person who was awful to me….I said “No, I gave it to God and shook the dust from off my feet, so til God tells me otherwise that guy no longer exists in my universe”

      I also have a nephew who once said he didn’t want there to be any eternal life because he would get bored. Did not say he doesn’t believe but figured he should get all his interesting stuff done in this life….I hope someday we can get him to see that there will be sooooo much more than sitting on a cloud playing a harp!

    • No Randy he has incorporated his brilliance with his handicap and he can not relate to a god in heaven. There is still time we just need to pray for him.

    • Randy, all I can say is:


      Maybe we should start a campaign of stephen hawking doesn’t exist.

    • Can we get the ACLU to file suits on our behalf to eliminate any public trace of Hawking because we don’t believe in his existence?


    Dark Apocalypse:

    Blood Lust of the Compassionate

    By Lee Penn

    . . . An excerpt

    The prophets of Theosophy and the New Age movement promise a glorious future very soon for all mankind. Since 1875, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, David Spangler,1 Neale Donald Walsch,2 Robert Muller,3 Barbara Marx Hubbard, Nick Bunick, and other spiritual writers have said that we can overcome death, ascend to divinity, and build a heaven on earth–if we realize that we are gods, and that all of humanity is One.

    This message–a modern restatement of the serpent’s lies in Eden (Gen. 3:4-5)–has provided fame and fortune to its evangelists. From the fall of 1995 through the fall of 1999, 2.5 million people bought Walsch’s books,4 which are a chatty, comforting restatement of the Theosophical gospel. Rabbi Michael Lerner, who formerly provided spiritual advice to Hillary Clinton, praises Walsch’s books: “All three volumes of Conversations With God turn out to be a brilliant work of spiritual discourse, a powerful critique of spiritually dead versions of contemporary religion, and a challenge to those who imagine themselves secular to rethink the metaphysical foundations of their deepest beliefs.”5 Nick Bunick, a prosperous Oregon businessman who claims to be the reincarnation of the Apostle Paul, has earned a $1 million publisher’s advance for his “revelations.”6 cont…

    • Gordy- The most revolting part of all of this is the “legion” of “plants” from this satanic refuse who are masquerading today as legitimate Christian teachers, preachers, and websites, and they become a snare to the undiscerning and the unaware. I am reminded of Jude’s words on their fate, and they should be shuddering right now to know that not only the Lord Jesus Christ is watching these “watchers”, but He is also disclosing to His Own just who these “plants” are, and how they are operating, and are being “reserved under judgment” until the Great White Throne. As Jesus Christ of Nazareth, King of kings and Lord of lords said:”What does it profit a man if he gain the whole world but lose his soul?”

  11. La, here’s one for you.

    Just caught a podcast, stan gordon being interviewed about winged humanoids in PA.

    • Sorry rose, no link…BUT it is on the UFO paranormal radio network. The jerry pippin show. He came sooooo close talking about bigfoot etc. He even admitted possible interdimensional origins for bigfoot. AND they are sometimes connected to ufo sightings.

      Back to the humanoids, they appear to be about 8 ft tall.

      Intriguing interview, but definitely just far enough away from the truth.

  12. In troubled times we need to be reminded that Jesus love and died for us:

    Remind Me, Dear Lord – Alison Krauss and the Cox Family

    • Amen Gordy! Thank you for the clip. I needed that! Spent the last 24hours laid up in bed with a tummy bug and can’t even think straight!
      God Bless

    • Hi Looking Up. I am blessed to hear the song meant something in your trials. I will pray for you. Try taking some yogurt, raw oatmeal and some garlic tablets
      for stomach flu.

      Your brother in Christ

    • Thank you kindly. Will try as soon as I can eat something again. Thanks for your prayers. 🙂

  13. Jesus Help Me To Stand – Alison Krauss

    “Jesus Help Me To Stand”

    Through trials, troubles and care
    I know Jesus my savior is there
    Giving me faith through darkest days
    Keeping me on the narrow way

    Jesus savior, help me each day
    Fill me with hope, fill me with faith
    Darkness retreats at the touch of Your hand
    Jesus savior, help me to stand

    Jesus lived through darkest pain
    Rejected by men, despising the shame
    Man of sorrows, acquainted with grief
    He gave his life so we may be free

    Jesus savior, help me each day
    Fill me with hope, fill me with faith
    Darkness retreats at the touch of Your hand
    Jesus savior, help me to stand

    I know that Jesus died for me
    Cancelled my debt at Calvary
    Rose from the dead, unlocked Heaven’s door
    Trust in his love and live evermore

    Jesus savior, help me each day
    Fill me with hope, fill me with faith
    Darkness retreats at the touch of Your hand
    Jesus savior, help me to stand

  14. NOME,JAQUELINE, I cannot here discuss all that you are putting forth as it would take much space on the blog.

    some say I am preterits, replacement, Augustina, Calvinist, Lutheran, Adventist. and the list goes on. I assure you I am none of the above.

    God does not label me and neither should any man do so.

    God’s curse is not upon me because I am a ratified blood washed, sanctified disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Apostle Paul said not all Israel is Israel. in other words not all the natural descendants of Abraham make up the Israel of God.
    The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob established a NEW COVENANT by the blood of the Messiah. Old things have passed away. please become familiar with the book of Hebrews.

    The Israel of God is the figure which Apostle Paul uses in Rom 11 as The “Olive tree” this differs the natural Israel about which Apostle said Not all are. The natural Jew must be grafted into It along with the Gentiles by faith.

    If that is not understood that not all Israel is Israel and that the bond woman’s children shall not to be heir with the free woman “The Jerusalem above” then comes all this garbage about Messianic Jewish Pride being God’s favourite Race.

    I know of Messianic who love Israel in the flesh (natural Jews) more than Sanctified brothers and sisters in the Lord.

    My desire is that men come to Christ to be saved from Hell-Fire whether ye be Jew or gentile don’t matter it is true that all souls are created in the image of God and the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ promises only one salvation for all Men under the NEW COVENANT.

    Any body not in that New covenant washed in Messiah’s Blood cannot be saved. There is one Body, One Spirit, One Hope, One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism, One God & Father.Eph4:4,5.

    John B

    • All of this spoken By Apostle in Eph4:4,5 belong to The Israel of God

      His Blood washed sanctified People, that is Right, His people of the new Covenant! the heirs of Salvation. circumcised of the Heart and not of the Flesh. God in the process of time has only had one People in the old covenant it was a Race, Now in the “Fullness of time” It is the company Of Grace His holy remnant.

      To insist that the Jews are a special race favoured by God is indicative that one has no comprehension of the administration Of faith and have not understood the Messianic ministry of the Lord Jesus . Indeed that is what the Jews still await for, their Messiah. That infers that the Prophets were Wrong. They Killed the prophets in a scene they, in their unbelief still kill the prophets , even worse they by unbelief trample under foot the Blood of the “eternal covenant”.
      It is the so called Messianic who side with the unbelieving Judases that better be careful that the curse of judgment spoken of in Heb10:29 does not come upon them.

      john b

    • I agree John B, but Jesus Christ will have mercy on them like Zechariah prophesied and Paul also and you can`t go around that. Not all of them, because Paul said, not all Israel(flesh) is Israel(promise). Therefore all Israel will be saved, means those who were Israel that Paul talked about, the elect set apart of Israel, during the last 2000 years and are the elect among the Jewish race in these last days also, they just don`t know it yet.

      Romans 11:28-29

      28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes.

      29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

    • Bozz; I hear what you are saying, A remnant from the Jewish race will be saved along with a remnant from the gentiles these together have been reconciled into One body during the entire Gospel age as you rightly say during the Last 2000 years and will continue so until Grace comes to an End.

      However; let us realize that there are more Jews in existence outside of the State of Israel than there are in the geographical location of the Land that would classify to be part of the remnant grafted back into the Israel of God If they were to accept Jesus’s Atonement for their Sins.
      They would not be Grafted back into the state of Israel.that is not what Paul is referring.
      Therein is the difference between the natural Israel and the Israel of God, (the Olive tree)
      Furthermore; they are Grafted back into the olive tree not because of natural lineage or because they are God’s people, but Apostle tells us it is for the sake of the fathers that mercy is showed to them Rom11:28 of which Christ was the seed of promise.

      Everything is to do with the new Covenant in His blood.

      Apostle Peter addressing the dispersion says to these Jews abroad “YOU WERE NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are the people of God having received mercy” 1Pet2:10 It does not get any plainer, This is the Apostles word to the “Now Jews in Christ” in God’s new covenant of Mercy by Messiah.

      The whole misunderstanding as to what the “Israel of God” is results from Jewish thinking introduced into the body of Christ.

      I would further had that all promises given to the natural Jew have their culmination in Jesus! it is in Him that “all Israel” (The olive tree) is regathered. and the promise to Abraham about the Land came to pass by the ministry of Joshua. That occupation of the Land was a shadow of the reality to which Abraham aspired for “the celestial city” where Christ presently is with the names of all of the Israel of God on record.

      Apostle Paul dealt with this mingling among the Galatian church being infiltrated by the Judases.

      Christians should Lay aside Jewish fables and begin to think as Christians after all we Have the mind of Christ.

      God only has One Israel is it the natural state or the olive tree? it cannot be both!

      john b

    • Nice summary JohnB.

      Perhaps we can pick-up at a later date why the Millenial Kingdom on earth ends?

  15. Here’s an intermission from the discussions to note Doonesbury mocking the 21st’rs.

    yahoo comics

    The same will likely be done with the 2012’rs.

    • Actually, I believe the 2012’rs will be viewed as an inevitable truth by the world as we draw closer to that time. Here is why I say that. This 2012 Mayan prophecy thing is a luciferian concoction. In my opinion, the state of the world will in such dire straights prior to December 21, 2012 that the entire world will believe the world is coming to an end.

      This is so satan can step in as the counterfeit savior of the world through the earthly presence of the antichrist. So I believe those that believe the end of the world in 2012 is bogus (and I am one) will be in the minority as we draw closer to that time. Only the truly faithful will be able to see doom drawing closer and keep the faith in Jesus to be our savior.

    • H_w I think most of us would agree that things will get far worse. How many do you think would come to Christ without experiencing some troubles? Or getting beat-up by devils? (We can continue in later thread. No need to have to track too many.)

      Isaiah 28:
      “21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.

      22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.

      23 Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech.

      24 Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?

      25 When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place?

      26 For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him.

      27 For the fitches are not threshed with a threshing instrument, neither is a cart wheel turned about upon the cummin; but the fitches are beaten out with a staff, and the cummin with a rod.

      28 Bread corn is bruised; because he will not ever be threshing it, nor break it with the wheel of his cart, nor bruise it with his horsemen.

      29 This also comes forth from the LORD of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working.”

      “On some have compassion making a difference, on others save with fear pulling them out of the fire hating even the garment spotted by flesh”

      Hammering (tribulation) with staff and rod seems to be the last resort for delivering the spices.

      The Great Multitude comes out of Great Tribulation.

    • Nome; Ti’s true; many are purified by suffering for the Name!

      Faith trailed by fire delivers the sincere of heart.

      Victory in Jesus

      john B

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