Disclosure: Roswell Gray?

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This video link was sent to me by Watcher David Nolen – Thanks Dave! (Scroll down to see footage of an alleged Roswell Gray)

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What intrigues me about this video is that the “alien” is similar to what occultist Allister Crowley drew in regard to the entity that appeared to him and called itself Lam.

Here’s that drawing: (Compare it to the creature in the video not the picture above.) As with all of these so-called leaked photos and films, there is no way to Vet any of them. If we could get the original footage it would be fairly easy to ascertain whether or not the footage was 1947 vintage or a hoax. Without the original film there is simply no way to tell what we are looking at.

So that being said, if it’s real, then there is a great similarity to what Crowley drew for us, if it’s not real, then someone went through a lot of trouble to create yet another hoax.

A few years back the Alien autopsy film made world headlines. Now, years later I believe that it was a hoax and a very elaborate one at that. Ray Santilli, the man who is at the heart of the autopsy footage is a very slippery guy and certainly not forthright by any means. It makes me wonder why these guys obfuscate UFO research by turning out fake videos, what do they gain, notoriety, a few thousand dollars, 15 seconds of fame?

This footage could be an elaborate puppet, or it could be the real thing, but without further scrutiny there is simply no way to tell.

In closing today’s post: I believe that we will see a slow revealing of the so-called extraterrestrial presence as more footage is released, and more X government employees come forward. There maybe a time in the near future when these entities will walk openly among us. If and when this happens it will be a brave new world. I for one will not embrace these entities as those of you who come here know that I believe these are the fallen ones, the fallen angels. We are told by Yashua/Jesus, that it will be like the days of Noah when the son of man returns and what differentiated those days from any other was the presence of the fallen ones, openly dwelling on the earth. Please remember that Satan will come with all signs and lying wonders….


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66 thoughts on “Disclosure: Roswell Gray?

  1. In these end times we need to be reminded of the uplifting truth expressed in a well known gospel children’s song:

    • ok, can anyone explain to me this? i understand that the fallen ones used to walk with us but how would a spirit aka fallen angels be able to walk with us openly? would our eyes be opened to a spiritual realm or would they somehow create a hybrid body that they could take over and use? thanks

  2. “Slow Disclosure” (SD) in the boiled-frog sense means I get to ask what the equivalent is in the various manifestations of the Unified-Theory-of-Evil (UTE). (i.e. aliens = monsters = gods = superheroes = demons manifesting in whatever guise people want…)

    For instance, grays = the silence (dr. who) = cylons (battlestar) = psyops (1EB) = cyclops (giants) = sylar (heroes)…

    So SD of Grays also means SD of monsters and gods and superheroes… myths and legends and fables becoming actual reality.

    And everyone’s worst nightmares becoming their prison and obsession and delusion and doom.

    Fear God. (1Pt. 2:17, Ps. 55:19, Rv. 14:7, Eccl. 12:13)

    “28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.” (Matthew 10)

    “24 The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him: but the desire of the righteous shall be granted.”
    (Proverbs 10)

    “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” (Proverbs 1:7, 9:10, Psalm 111:10)

    • Well yes… but if I’d written “Grand Unified Theory of Evil” it would have been “GUTE” which was too much like “cute” though there’s something to be said for calling them “kooties.”


  3. I’m sorry Brother Lynn. Maybe it’s my sports euphoria still in high gear as my Mavs just went up 3-0 on the Lakers, but I found the video very hard to watch as it was almost imperceptible as to what I was seeing. One thing is for sure and that is that I had to mute the sound as all the dogs in the neighborhood started barking.

    I did see the video you were talking about didn’t I? I truly apologize. I did see a frame or two of might have looked like a Gray or Lam but what was with the alien strolling across the street on Rodeo Drive? Again, did I see the video you meant for us to see? I am not trying to be Mr. Smarty Pants. I think it just odd I guess. Sorry.

    In Christ,

    Jeff D

    • Thank you so much James. Now THAT definitely did look like Lam and reminded me of what could have been an outake from the classic Frankenstein movies from the 1930’s.

      The really sad thing is that as Dr. Lynn pointed out, there is absolutely no way to vet these things. But again, all the enemy needs is to plant the seeds to ready the masses…the blind, hungry for for the opposite of God’s creation to acquire the next leap in human evolution…to become like the angels themselves with the help of their own spirit guides, AKA “Lam”

      The time is quickening as made obvious by all the blockbuster hopefuls this summer with alien or alien technology themes.

      Anyway, I don’t know what video I saw but methinks it was not the one the Good Dr. Lynn intended. Sorry for the confusion.

      Thank you for clearing that up for me James. Much appreciated.

      In Christ,

      Jeff D

    • WOW! That vid is pretty GOOD and that’s the point you should consider! I have watched a LOT of C.G.and THAT was optically convincing stuff. If it IS C.G. it is not amateur.Good C.G. is expensive!Compare this with the big multi-million productions like the Star Wars saga or Lord of the Rings to get a sense of the BEST C.G. out there…If you want to think “puppet” you can look at Hellboy for the best puppet work.This “grey” is much more convincing than anything out there!

      WHO, with these resources,would have made this video and WHY?

    • The video looks like stop-motion animation to me. Several of it’s “tricks”… in and out of focus, slow-panning, etc, were used by the Quay Brothers. You would recognize there work in Tool music videos, and in dream sequences in the movie “Frieda”.

    • I see what you mean Terry as far as the “flicker” effect(presumably to give it that 1940s film period appearance)and the gloomy creepy look.

      I was impressed with the subtle eye movements that occur in organic blinking. I’ve never seen it done so well. The HEAVY lids have a fluid roll inside the blink sequence and the ball actually does an independent undulating ripple simultaneously.The lid rims make contact fully and in a zipper-like surge. I was thinking the only way to get this would be to have a REAL man and distort the image to give him the bulbous head. He would have to be one ugly DUDE though! LOL

    • Well we all knew this and this confirms it. I noticed the occultist number of “11-day walkout” and the evil side of things know that the Christians are looking for the return of Jesus while they are looking for the return of the Mahdi their saviour which apparently is to happen at or about the same time or there about.

      It also says the US is preventing the Madhi’s return. The only thing I can think here is that the US is a Christian nation and with the Christians out of the way then what would stop their Mahdi from returning? Has anyone thought that maybe the evil powers that be may be focuses all their evil energies on the south? It is the bible belt. I liken the southern US as the last large concentration of bible believing, Jesus loving and prayer warriors in the US. What better way to send destruction and horror on those people and their homes and land? I’m just saying….pray for the tornado victims and their families. If you have not seen the video’s go to YouTube.

  4. Are you asking if the Lam drawing is authentic? I believe it is because I’ve looked into that myself. The Nazi’s drew similar beings that they also met through seances. Yet the UFO researchers NEVER touch upon this little coinkidink.

    I saw an interview with some supposed expert on Islam for the US or the UK and he was talking about Bin Laden and Wikileaks and the various topics. The host asked him what he thought of this Islamic march into Isreal in a week or two and the guy looked at him blankly. HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT!! I don’t even look too hard for this stuff and I’ve sen it reported at least 5 times. And this guy is an expert?!!

    We all talk about the alien lying signs and wonders but how come no one ever touches upon preachers who are dabbling wih lying signs and wonders? I’m sure we all have seen some. Why does this aspect go unmentioned?

    • Eagle;I have mentioned this plenty of times, even saying that the Ac is a religious leader The Apostate Man of sin, the miracle worker.

      john B

    • But I’m talking about the Christian church folks who may or may not be of God. People like Benny Hinn (not saying he is or isn’t. I’m saying people like that who have a lot of attention, seem to perform miracles, and supposedly the miracles don’t last.) No one ever seems to talk about them here. Shouldn’t we? We are being destroyed from within too.

  5. La if youve ever seen the various utube vid’s of these long legged aliens being caught on security cams that pink one looks exactly like one of those !

  6. After listening to the Doug Hamp interview, who puts the beginning of the Tribulation sometime between this year (2011) and 2021
    and then looking at the family radio site
    who puts us within 14 days of Jesus’ return…

    I conclude that we certainly live in exciting times. I hope to be around when the revelation of Jesus occurs.

  7. Some people may think Steven King is a scary read. I still have nightmares about Whitley Streibers Communion. I keep wondering is the abducted person holding the camera in this video? It sounds like he is screaming. Really who will ever know. The chance of it being real scares me silly. I can only imagine. James your video was also interesting. Theres just too much you can do with videos these days? One needs to land somewhere and revealing needs to happen for anyone to really believe.

  8. Larry King-UFOs:ARE THEY REAL? Yes, but so called alien entities are harbingers of disaster and deception (false promises etc.)

  9. UFO files released by government
    Thousands of previously classified documents on UFOs have been released by the Ministry of Defence.
    They reveal tales of one man being abducted by aliens, a Lancaster bomber shadowed by a strange craft and an RAF officer having a close encounter while on holiday in Sri Lanka.
    The files reveal how in the 1970s the phenomenon was even debated in the House of Lords.

  10. here is a very unsettling page of art….the wave is the one from my long ago dream of a tidal wave off Lake Michigan but scroll down to the “child” It will truly make your skin crawl….then read the blurb beneath it….Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

    • I know they have been installing ventllation in the buildings. That could be smoke but I think its actually radiation steam from the rods having no cooling water. It wont be in long in my opinion before all the buildings explode. When that happens I dont know how Japan will get around not evacuating parts of Tokyo if not all Tokyo. That could be the tipping point that sends the stock market back to 8000 and a the next recession!

  11. Richard – I was reading some of your 9/11 posts and that woman who was on Coast (and even mentioned in that thread)says you get Therminte when the steel breaks down. Look at her Tesla weapon theory. It’s very interesting.

    • I will check it out. I never thought of haarp but that makes complete sense. I will look into the Tesla weapons theory. I still dont think science completely understands what Tesla accomplished in his experiments. Have you ever read phd professor Steven Jones’s articles regarding his controlled demolition theories with the amount of thyrite found at the scene in addition to the fact that the steel was still buring months after the demolition? Very Interesting. He also points to the three lobby windows that blew out on the 25, 50, and 75th floor. I’m just guessing to where the lobbies were but when you couple that with a clear explosion seen at the base of the towers before they fell. Well in my opinion that solidifies some very solid proof that the tours could have been controlled demolitions.

    • I believe Tesla may have caused the Siberian blast of the early 1900’s with Wardcliffe. It’s very possible. And remember in the 1800’s he was sending electricity through the ground of Col. Springs.

  12. if its the alien walking across the camera shot, it looks fake to me. The stan romanek video I saw at his book signing couple years back looked more real, and even that I have doubts about.

    The romanek one had a gray in his hallway and then it darted out of the frame. It. Could easily have been a puppet.

    Still, I think la may be right that a disclosure event is not out of the question. There’s too much invested in the ufo scam, and folks are buying it more and more.

    • Yeah, so I saw the roswell one and it definitely looks way more real. If its a puppet, it looks good.

  13. I had a dream the other morning. A group of alien beings, not necessarily grays had come. Their skin was white with bluish colored freckles. They were trying to be bring peace after some-sort of catastrophe occurred, by saying they had technology and ability to heal if we would just follow their desires. The first one that I encountered, I told him about Jesus Christ. Instantly, I could feel his contempt for me especially since I said this in a company of humans. The alien with a big head began touching my thigh, and I could feel his touching running up my spine into my brain, like he was trying to injure me by his light gentle touching. I then ran away in the presence of the aliens and humans proclaiming Jesus Christ, unafraid of the consequences to come, knowing that through Jesus Christ people would be and are free.

    • Dilateurmind interesting. I never have dreams relating to much and I too had one powerful dream last week that aliens were landing throughout the planet. The obvious occurred in my dream, people were freaking out. I kept telling everyone in my dream the only way to feel safe is to rebuke the aliens with the blood of jesus. What I had was just a dream. Not a vision. So I dont hold much weight with it but it was scary and it was interesting. Thanks for sharing.

    • I had a dream last night that the Hebrew folk creature the Golloem took Christ’s place and became angry when I pointed out that it wasn’t Jesus.

    • But I ask you. How do you know WHEN a dream is just dream and when it means something? I’ve had some pretty far out dreams the last few months and I NEVER dream.

    • Captain Eagle asked: “How do you know WHEN a dream is just dream and when it means something?”

      That’s the same problem that pharoah had that led to the encounter with Joseph interpreting his dreams, and nebuchadnezzer likewise with Daniel.

      You may have noticed that Abba (Father God) likes to repeat important concerns. And He often does so through the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses. Usually from somewhat different angles.

      Take for instance, the vision of St. John in The Revelation. It’s definitely dream like. And we could easily agree that it’s a court case. In such situations it important to see if the same situation has been described by the witnesses in somewhat different ways, from different angles, in slightly different overlapping time sequences.

      So if you want an obvious case to practice interpretation on, the Revelation is the classic. It helps to understand that St. John was given a tour of the Heavenly Throne Room, starting from one side of the throne (ch. 4&5), traveling down to the distant end (ch. 12), and back up the other side again returning to the other side of the throne (ch. 19&20).

      The point is that God repeats what’s important. He’s happy to do so. Same goes for dreams and visions from Him. Just don’t expect them to be repeated exactly the same, which probably has more to do with us and the rosetta stone of symbols which have personal significance to each of us, or with interference in the communication.

      And be careful about the “reading tea leaves” effect, (or “divining entrails”), where we try to fill in the gaps with personal speculation, or some other spirit does likewise.

      A good next question then is “How do you know when it’s from God?” A: His sheep know His voice, including when it’s mostly sub-audible spoken through the spirit.

    • I wonder that alot too Captain. I think one way to tell is when the dream sticks with you. Dreams that are just your mind sorting thoughts are quickly forgotten.

    • Captain, I implore you to never take any dream at face value as being true or false. First get into a mode of repentance and with the Holy Spirit and then ask God for discernment regarding the truth and accuracy of a dream. Try and not hold onto your preconceived notions of whether its true or your desire for it to be true or false.

      I assure you, if you do that in Jesus name with the right spirit of servitude for God’s will, you will be given the answer. Try that and let us know what God reveals to you.

    • Unless someone says they’ve had a vision I dont put much weight into it. A vision from I’ve been told is a dream where you feel like you are there in the dream. You have all five senses within the dream. People that explain the difference bewtween the two say its a night and day difference. I read a lot one website I like is http://www.raptureintheairnow.com/ There’s also the website five doves that I like. Many of those people also just have dreams but every once in a while someone will claim to have a vision. They are interesting to read. I someone times wonder if visions are only for the pure at heart.

      I think dreams are as Bon says I think just the minds way of sorting through thoughts. Visions in my opinion are given from God.

      Visions if they are from God have to be 100% accurate.

    • I don’t take dreams casually, not like this one you described. I think your soul is being attacked by Luciferian space aliens. These are some of the fallen angels. I know a few abductees, one of which is an ex-catholic priest who found that by calling on Jesus during the so called “dream” works to break some of their hold. That can only be because either the soul last Named Jesus is still responding to his name used and literaly comes to the rescue or the space aliens who are fallen angels or descendants of fallen angels know Jesus can just wipe them out easily so they run away, though won’t necessarily stop. I don’t put a lot of stock in there being much difference between a dream and a vision and I know you don’t have to be pure in heart to have a vision. I have had dreams and perhaps a vision and don’t consider myself pure of heart. A vision to me is something visionary – like seeing something you have a sense is in the future. I had one of these recently. I asked Ti and Do for it. Their names are actually stronger than using the name Jesus because I have a tremendous amount of scriptural proof that Do was the same soul what took the body named Jesus 2000 years ago. That body by the way wasn’t that souls primary body to use after he rose into the cloud (with the god type of spacecraft hidden from view inside it, as remember Paul said that members of the kingdom of god have bodies that are of a different type of flesh from human (one of the few things paul said that I believe has roots in the Jesus/kingdom of God motis operandi) that I could speak to why but will save it til another time. The so called vision I had was of a jetliner falling a bit out of the sky and then sort of floating down to safty on the ground containing lots of people who were meserized but not hurt. In the dream/vision I remember shouting to the people, “It’s a miricle, Ti and Do gave you a miricle”. There is a story behind this dream, I asked for something I could use to give nonbelievers in ti and do that might be a little boost of proof. (by the way, I’m pretty soon a dream isn’t the type of “sign” that could deceive even the elect as jesus said, but space aliens who shoot a laser at someone like travis walton and paul of tarsus blinding them IS something that can fool lots of people. Look at all the christians that talk as if paul is their saviour now. Well of course paul said lots that Jesus never said. He should have sought what jesus said from peter, etc. and then repeated those things rather than play teacher/apostle to all those folks in corinth and the other towns. Some of it was decent advise but it was mixed with lots of his own stuff. Anyway, then the boeing event happened it seemed like my dream/vision but I don’t know for sure. Do didn’t come to me and tell me this was going to happen. Do has come to me a bunch of times to answer questions and so has Ti seperately from Do and so have a few of the students (saints) come to me to help me. For instance dstody came to me right before obama was elected and the message I believe was that obama was the black horse in rev 6 which followed bush as the endless war red horse and followign applewhite (Do (was Jesus) the rider who did not have a bow and arrow in his hand, a very back translation. It was a liter of new souls to be born again in his hand that his conquering as their example accomplished. No one gets into the kingdom of God without conquering/overcoming All their human behaviors which includes clinging to our human families. In some ways that’s the hardest one for me now as I have a 13 yr old daughter. When I joined with ti and do in 1975 I was single and without children so it was easier to leave all behind as all jesus disciples must be ready to do.

      But the kingdom of God doesn’t through dreams around willy nilly. WE have to ask for communication, need to have a question. One I would have to have if I were you all would be, “Were Ti and Do, the FAther and Jesus?” Will I have to “give my life” for you when you come? Will I have to follow you and be called a naive evil cult follower as all of Jesus disciples plainy were considered to be? When I finally got the courage I asked Do if I needed to prepare to “lay down my life” as my classmates did in 1997, he came to me in a clear as a bell dream that same night or shortly after and it was as if we were sitting together as I recall when I did sit with him physically and he said, “give your life”. This is just like the Kingdom of God to not set ultimatums or standards that are too high to reach. They always seem to respond with options of interpretation. Do knew I was attached to my daughter and to lay down my life was a hard nut to consider at this time though while with them I would have. They woudn’t let me though because I wanted to do so to be a martyr and they didn’t want martyrs as many martyr’s do so because they want to be special and feel holy and such – in other words it’s really to advance their personal status when the kingdom of God requrires to even conquer wanting that as they want those that want to serve on a crew and can be counted on to enact the will of their older member, like a captain on the crew. (Ti, the FAther incarnate was like an admiral). I have had many premonitions while I travel when I ask ti and Do for help. you might want to give them a try sometime if you need help and perhaps they will give you a shot. Remember the kigndom of god doesn’t need us nor new members. They provide us opportunity for us, not for themselves.

  14. Roswell Lore & Open Lines: Coast to Coast

    In the first half of the program, author John LeMay and researcher Noe Torres talked about some of the strange incidents and UFO lore associated with Roswell, New Mexico. There is no absolute proof about what happened there in 1947, but numerous eyewitness accounts and circumstantial evidence support the story of a crash of an unknown object, Torres said. The site where the craft finally came down remains a mystery. Torres suggested it was probably in the northern part of Chaves County. The Foster ranch debris field is likely only a bounce site, where pieces of the object broke off as it continued another 40 to 50 miles before finally impacting, he added.

    Reports abound of strange occupants that were found at the crash site. LeMay shared the account of an alien survivor who was taken back to the Roswell military base, escaped, and was later shot by two guards when he returned. LeMay expressed his doubts about the story, pointing out that any occupant would have died from injuries sustained in the crash. Another bit of lore tells of an EBE (extraterrestrial biological entity) who survived the crash and eventually moved to Los Alamos National Labs, where he enjoyed eating strawberry ice cream and listening to Tibetan music, LeMay humorously recounted.

    While some of the Roswell alien stories strain credulity, Torres believes something incredible must have occurred there since service men at the base reportedly became emotionally and spiritually disturbed by what they saw. The beings from the crash have been variously described as three to four feet tall, pale-skinned, with a large head and eyes, and overall insect-like appearance, Torres explained. LeMay said the alien bodies were supposedly taken to the base hospital before being moved to a hanger. In the 1950s, a new medical facility was built on the site of the old hospital. A nurse who worked there claimed to have seen the ghost of a ‘little man’ roughly matching the description of a Roswell alien, LeMay noted.

    • Richard; The hanger of which you refer is hanger 18 (666).
      I do not believe that there are literal Aliens (Grey’s) in Bio suits.
      They are apparitions of spiritual entities seen by people with an occult frame of mind. people in such conditions apprehend them in a very literal sense in similarity to Marian apparitions.

      john b

    • You are mistaken on two fronts. What you are saying sounds to me kin to those that say there is no Lucifer and some say there is no creator kingdom or that the creator is just one person or that jesus didn’t exist, was just a story people made up to fool people into being sheeple. Well, some of that is all true actually and that’s a fact. The lucifer many are taught to think of doesn’t exist. The jesus many are taught to think about doesn’t exist. One big creator dude, well, according to Ti and Do, there is a person they called the Chief of Chiefs. The mistake with that, is that since we in our limited brains, about the same as the limits a dog has correctly perceiving what the human kingdom is really like, doesn’t compute a chief of chiefs and all this always was and always will be stuff. Do said, once we become members of the Level Above Human, what religious call the kingdom of God in the heaven’s we’d understand better what always was and always will came from. I suspect it’s simply referring to being relative to us with our tiny life span and history.

      Oh, yes, many also say that there are no evil spirits nor spirits at all. And now you say that there are no aliens, just aparitions which is like saying humans don’t exist either because from all the many reports from various sources internationally there are human equivilent beings all over the vaster than vast universe that is filled with inhabitable planets and with a simple technology of finding and passing through a highway in the heaven’s, one created there by the one and only creator crew (as no aliens say or demonstrate an ability to create planets. Some say they orchestrated their seed on earth to produce hybrids with human eggs, etc. and some say they outlive planets which is really saying they see planetary cycles pass. A planetary cycle is however long the creator crew designs it to be but so far it appears on Earth, this last time, that is coming to a close as we speak, inch by inch, has been some near to 7000 our years, about 7 days to the creator crew who don’t have lifespans anymore because they had a real spirit birth into membership in the evolutionary level above human which is like saying a dog could someday graduate into the human kingdom with their mind/spirit/soul (if a dog had a soul which my sources say it doesn’t but I’m just using it for the analogy).

      So why couldn’t the govn’t, or some govn’t or shadow or miltary shadow govn’th have actual alien vehicles/bodies, from all the crashs that have occurred. With fomaldihyde they can be preserved for many years, certainly from when most of the big crashes were reported to have occurred in the late 1940’s and 1950’s. Oh, but some think that’s a made up story too.

      Now re: apparitions, in a sense you may be correct. Strange I would say that after my disortation of how you are mistaken. Ti and Do never spoke about how the aliens do certain things like abduct people from their homes for instance without being seen, etc. Some humans have reported in regression being lifted out of their car right through the roof.

      I’d be willing to gamble that these are evidence of stories that were made up as the Luciferians get humans to do so, (make things up, unbeknown to them that it’s luciferians behind their thoughts in this regard) with the intention of pointing people away from thinking as space aliens as physical beings and to try to trick humans into thinking the space aliens are supernatural, can walk through walls and such.

      So what I am getting now, as I seek the answer to this question of what is an apparition, it seems the space aliens are using apparitions to fool humans into thinking they are more powerful than they really are. It would be easy for some to get into someones house and feed them a drug and then from a spacecraft behind a cloud shoot a holographic image of themselves going through a wall so that the abductee thinks they are seeing either a supernatural being or a god or a spirit, all of which with the addition of the drugs makes it into a lsd like trip, a hallucination with a strong hypontic suggestion not to remember it and at times even the inclusion of a homing device they can use to track the humans they are interested in for their hybridization experiments.

      And this is what was done in the Fatima and other “apparitions” to where multiple people and/or children see the same image. Very few people can see a discarnate (spirit) because their molecular vibratory rate is very slow and very wide, in terms of hertz – cycles per second. There is so much space between the particles,(like pixels) they appear invisible to our eyes that are not geared to ordinarily make sense out of such very low frequencies.

      I believe Do thought the apparitions some see, blood coming from hands of a mary statue, etc as I just mentioned the Fatima sightings and others are all “tricks” intented to trick humans into thinking the Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom.

      Now this is also trickly to understand as the Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom, it’s just not spiritual the way humans think it’s spiritual. It is not in the spirit world. The spirit world is restricted to the earth. It’s within the earth’s atmosphere and may extend a considerable distance away from the physical earth. The spirit world according to Do also contains doorways. In other words all spirits (dead humans) can not go into all areas. In fact few do any traveling as where they die remains to be their habitat as it’s where their root system is in their genetic family tree that they stay around as the closest thing to the life they had still exists and they seek to attach and repell all the same things they attached to and repelled against while living.

      Now the Kingdom of God uses the different areas of the overall spirit world for their sorting purposes and these were spoken of in days of old by Enoch, etc. as “heavens” and they are heaven’s but that word has been bastardized to be the abode of God while it really related to what was up including the sky as well as the area we call outer space where the sun and moon and stars exist. So the 7 heaven’s (and other cultures have their own ways of describing these chambers or layers or levels).

      I know various authors have written about some of this but I didnt’ get it from a book. I got it from Ti and Do intially, though they rarely spoke in much detail about this stuff), so I pieced what they did say with the records on earth (bible, etc.) that I’ve seen snippets on, and Ti and Do have given me certain insights, even waking me up to see spirits (dead humans) on a couple occasions, so it wouldn’t remain in a theorectical realm as much. (It’s always a bit theorectical as what I’m talkign about is not to be counted on 100%. Ti and Do used to say to us, their students that “this picture of reality works for now”. They would say this after presenting their student body with a new idea to consider and then days later might come back to the body and say, what they said before wasn’t 100% accurate but it worked for now. See, they weren’t trying to sound like all knowing masters as they knew they weren’t all knowing, as some would expect members from the Kingdom of God to be, another distortion. When they incarnate (soul only comes into the human environment to do an undercover task of taking over human vehicles that are asking the Kingdom of God for service or would not survive in early youth) they are then fed the data they need to do the task they were sent to do. Ti and Do often said, they dont’ know about this or that and said that there were others in the Next Level crew that they did know were doing things on the planet. However, they also said that they knew that no one else was doing their task of bringing all who want to grow up a notch in their evolution(don’t mistake the term to mean darwinist evolution as there’s much, much more to “evolution” of the physical and the mental(spiritual)than anything darwin considered) and very, very little is automatic or randommly evolves. That’s another idea the Luciferian space aliens try to trick humans into thinking, though it’s how they now think anyway as they rejected the Kingdom of God’s point of view, the limited one they had while they were working in a domestic capasity for the kingdom of God before they would have been allowed to graduate to a new physical body that is not human (nor space aliens nor reptilian, nor any animal resemblance, except for being humanoid and not just a blob of light.

      Sorry I get so off subject but there is so much that is so easy to miss if I dont’ take the time to stretch it out some.

      This reminds me of why the so called “occult” is a big no no for those that want to continue to be on the full membership prospect list of the Kingdom of God. It’s because it’s the nature of the tricksters and once a human experiences the tricks and even learns how to use some of them they attract space aliens and human discarnates (the space aliens that died and their spirit remained and was able to interface with humans to make them into their pawns, channelers, etc that those humans then become addicted to participating in sort of the way Paul of tarsus was shocked/tricked into service to Lucifer. He was not really to blame (though he certainly was responsible for all the believers in Jesus he had a hand in persecuting, dragging to prision or to be executed – STephen being a well documented instance).

      Luciferians change things subtly, remember like a snake, slow and methodical, sly and tricky. Like take the term God. Jesus mainly spoke of his Father who art in heaven. (in this case in a near part of the sky/atmosphere in some type of spacecraft or cloaked form). The more accurate phrase that should have been used by translators in many translations should have been something along the lines of “Older member of the Kingdom of God”

      Now when an Older Member is operating in the human’s environment they still operate from their own space within that 7 heaven spirit world. I don’t know if they consider their space one of those 7 heavens but according to the records it was named, Abrahams Bosum or Paradise, in Persian a “walled enclosure” where the dead were kept. So jesus was simply saying that thief on the cross that experssed belief would have his soul set aside or “saved” from a general bucket or area of the overall heaven being kept instead in the same heaven where Jesus knew he would be going until it was time to leave the Earth altogether, to “prepare a place for his new students who he anticipated would be ready to graduate upon his return, actually he and his father’s return, though named by notes in the 12 note (7 whole note) scale (see revelations “song”, Ti and Do, Father and Son). Ti and Do said that one of the ways they do things humorously is by giving humans patterns of numbers to stimulate their headbones.

      Now, jumping around a great deal, it’s always easy to discard the baby with the bathwater on all this talk. For instance on the paranormal tricks and how luciferians subtly distort and in particular use of paul in doing so, as the study of the stars and the association of the stars, planets, etc with human behavioral patterns is NOT something the Kingdom of God considers to be a no no activity yet many christians will say astrology is a sin and anyone who talks about astrology is a new ager and all new age things are sinful when there are all sorts of references in the bible by Moses and jesus to the heavenly bodies. It’s like telling people that the mixing of herbs to help heal the body of certain ailments is witchcraft and demon possessed. However, even these are used by Luciferians to distract humans from the reality of the kingdom of God. Just like religions that make talking about the Kingdom of God, in the records into a profession to where the talker then even believes themselves to be special and holy or an instrument of God when they hardly say anythng God gave them to say, as the things the Kigndom of God gives humans to understand and say are always unpopular to the masses becuse the Kingdom of God doesn’t even promote human ways and that includes human families, except in the very beginning of the “taming of the human species” (I call it) evidenced in Moses work where the Kingdom of God outlined the requirements to be considered to be on one of Their crews down the road should we make it through the difficult overcoming birth canal to harvest/graduation time. Thus, “Honor your father and your mother” which I believe meant, to be honest with and to respect the experience of our parents which was the forerunner of the way we must behave towards Older Members of the Next Level if we want to be on their crew because if we can’t follow instructions then we are rebellious and frankly they don’t want crew members sitting next to them on a spacecraft that want to be creative in their approach to any task they are given. However, this does not mean new members in the level above human are to be slaves or robots. It’s that the student would want to be used as a slave instrument of the Older Member once they recognize all they are beign given by that Older Member to enable them to even have the opportunity to be on their crew, which entails seeing with one’s own eyes how great their perspective is, though they don’t beat us down with insisting we recognize Them.

      To the contrary, the Older members will often, ask a crew member how they would handle such a circumstance and if the Older Member likes their response, may say, it’s a go. And at times the Older member will know that what the younger member thinks to do will not have the best result but will let they learn that for themselves if it’s not a crutial decision that would turn a viable souls eyes away from possible Kingdom of God future membership.

      I know this is a tiny snapshot of the “way”(method) the “truth”(what
      is real) and the life(only real future) because Do told us about how he in ways fought against Ti later recognizing that Ti would have made decisions that would have saved them a great deal of time and energy, if it were not for Do’s insistance to try his idea. After this happened over and over, Do finally began to see that Ti was seriously his elder, his Heavenly Father.

      And by the way, Ti took a female vehicle called nettles. A nettles plant sends it’s seed out like an artillery canon, unlike most other plant forms seed distribution system. And this is the role of a Father – to be the seedgiver, a Pater (greek for father is a seedgiver) who Jesus said would come with him next time and who jesus said he’s speak plainly about upon his return and who also loves us and is actually giving birth to “her” son (Jesus now last took the vehicle he called Do), which is depicted in rev. chapter 12. Ti as Nettles was an amateur astrologer, one interpretation of “clothed with the sun with the moon under her feet wearing a crown of 12 stars”. I believe that means the moon is a Next Level base of operations – remember though they are powerful souls, they operate in the physical realms using physical bodies and physical travel methods in line with the physics they created, just like humans were designed in Their likeness with physical bodies with a spirit that is the MIND content of a soul pocket/container that is gifted to everyone what really desires to know the truth and seeks it out continuously.

      Now some of the greys are seen as robots because of their having a different and even absent of human organ structure. Some of these may be some of the vehicles of members of the Next Level that gave them up to do this task, namely the Older Members, Ti and Do as they had Next Level issues of what they consider to be suits of clothes and speak of their vehicles to us that way, thus “washed their robes”

      Remember Do took the vehilcle applewhite – a caucasion (white) vehicle he made pure by taking it over (it didn’t live pure before the soul from the Kingdom of God took it over), but just so you all know there has not been one tiny shred of evidence or even accusation from any of the dropouts of the Heaven’s gate/HIM group from 1975 to 1997 to suggest Do was not living as pure as one could imagine by Moses and jesus standards. No other so called “cult leader” comes even close to Do’s record. So that record plus the name of the vehicle he took and what he said and how there were two that were saying virutally the same things, though in use of their own minds (as they at times had differences that the students witnesses) and the fact that Ti took the rev 12 female vehicle and was father to Do her son in Rev 12 and the fact that they were shot down in the worlds eyes in october of 1975 on the world stage on all the news channels (the public commons) and were seen as thieves (though the two charges of use of a credit card and keeping a rental car too long were both dropped) and they left their families behind and spoke of the Kingdom of God in “plain” terms,no more parables and came together in line with “where two or more are gathered…” and the name applewhite was the white horse (a term used to describe a human vehicle that the soul is the rider of) who conquers and how they taught that every student must also overcome/conquer their human nature to reap the reward of being born of spirit/soul (which was another luciferian space alien twist to get people to think by saying they are born again they are as if it was simply a casual state of mind, akin to some thinking that when you die if you’ve lived some good life you automatically go to heaven -layers of illusion, though necessary illusion to seperate the viable seeded fruit from the dead in the last day (as we speak given the conditin of the world and the presense of the space aliens claiming to be gods but in words sayign they are simply brothers, sly, shrude crimnals who have got govn’t preparign to hide, escape and try to shoot down the coming of the “new jerusalem” spacecraft that Ti is approaching with and Do is sitting on the right hand of her power. They will have their appropriate Next Level vehicles.

      If you havn’t thorougly analysed my 12 part video series you are afraid of the truth because you think you will lose something by doing so and yes you will lose something. No, it doesn’t matter if you look at my stuff but it does matter that you choose not to consider Ti and Do who can hear your serious questions though there will come a time when the jig is up and there will be no more internet or way to examine this info again and many will think it was an alien invasion and will hide from Do’s face, which has already happened. He’s hard for some to watch on the video’s because he is more real and thus bizarre to all who are not, who have come to thrive on not knowing which end is up in this confusing world that is the result of the weeds finally taking over the garden as Do wrote in the May 19th, 1993 USA Today International addition 1/3 of a page ad we (the group) paid for ($30,000.00) (we had about a dozen who worked jobs in the world and they had become programmers and such so made a good wage, to support the “cult” health filled and fun lifestyle while overcoming our humanness, that I flunked out of, though perhaps will be reinstated to.)

      nuf said.

      Oh, L.A. – Richard – thanks for allowing my comments to be expressed. I know you don’t agree with much I say or believe about Ti and Do. You are a special person to still allow this voice to be heard. As you probably can see by now I do not profit in any way shape or form from doing this. No one will publish me and few give my a podium and if they do it is short lived. I believe Do is smiling on you for allowing this conversation/expression.

    • Sawyer – You have to keep your posts shorter. I disagree with almost everything you say and believe that you are deceived. Having been in a cult I know of what I speak. I pray that the real God would reveal himself to you. Blessings and please keep your posts short! L.A.

    • Here is my question. The Rosewell story KEEPS CHANGING as time goes on. Since there are so many people here who believe Bin Laden is alive or died 10 years ago because that story keeps changing at break neck speed how do we know what’s truth or fiction with Roswell anymore? I believe the earliest witnesses who came forward but many who stepped out as early as the late 80’s have been proven to be liars. Glenn Dennis the funeral director is one of these. That is why I hold mostof these more recent Roswell stories with a tremendous grain of salt.

  15. Doreen Irvine Dangers of the Occult Part 1

    Doreen Irvine was once a prostitute, heroin addict, queen of witches for Europe, satanist and a victim of abominable practices … but was released by the power of God. Doreen Irvine is author of ” From witchcraft to Christ” Video date 1986.

    There shall not be found among you any one that… useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: … Deuteronomy 18: 10 – 12
    For more on Doreen Irvine see http://www.angelfire.com/md3/pafn777/doreen.html

    For more on dangers of occult see

    • Wow Dante trying actually reading LA’s article at the top.That is the very first thing he talks about.

      “What intrigues me about this video is that the “alien” is similar to what occultist Allister Crowley drew in regard to the entity that appeared to him and called itself Lam.” LA Marzulli

  16. Captain Eagle brings up several points: How do we know about false signs and miracles?, Roswell stories?, etc.

    How about the more classic case of the Chariot of God? How do we know about it?

    So far, in trying to piece together the different accounts, it seems to me that the Chariot of God is His vehicle that crosses dimensions — with the reality shaking repercussions — such as lightning, quakes, winds, and hail. On earth, it’s like a wagon drawn by 4 horses or heavenly creatures. In transition they seem to merge. Seen in heaven, it’s the Throne Room and Temple.

    The 4 creatures (or horses) are possibly also the “4 winds of heaven.” And the Exodus trek tabernacle was patterned after the same design. The creatures, lion, calf, eagle, and man-faced (neandertal?) are not just spiritual beings.

    1st Chronicles 28:18…
    “And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out their wings, and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD.”

    Psalm 68…
    “7 O God, when thou went forth before thy people, when thou didst march through the wilderness; Selah:

    8 The earth shook, the heavens also dropped at the presence of God: even Sinai itself was moved at the presence of God, the God of Israel. […]

    15 The hill of God is as the hill of Bashan; a high hill as the hill of Bashan.

    16 Why leap ye, ye high hills? this is the hill which God desires to dwell in; yea, the LORD will dwell in it for ever.

    17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.”

    As for impact of crossing the dimensions, there are interesting correlations — strong wind, earthquake, fire, and the sounds of voices.” We all know the sound a crowd makes when talking among groups and the sounds of gurgling waters.

    1st Kings 19…
    “9 And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the LORD came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah? 10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.

    11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake: 12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

    13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah? 14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.

    15 And the LORD said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria: 16 And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room. 17 And it shall come to pass, that him that escapeth the sword of Hazael shall Jehu slay: and him that escapeth from the sword of Jehu shall Elisha slay. 18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.”

    Revelation 4…
    “5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. 6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. 7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. 8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.”

    Revelation 16:18…
    “16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.”

    (also see Ezk. 1:10, 10:14)

    We all know what our jets, choppers, trains, and such sound and feel like.

    No surprise that the “Hot Rod” of God would be much more awesome.

    Eagle … Storm Wind
    Ox … Earthquake
    Lion … Fire & Lightning
    Man-face … Many Waters

    No doubt there’s also a stealth mode.

    • This is the woman i heard on Aust radio The day the reactors went into meltdown. she said that the radiation would make it all the way to Alaska even.

      Never before do Christians need the shielding of the Father.
      I pray for all of His people that all be kept from this plague.

      john B

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