Sunday Go T0 Meeting Bun…

Sunday  Go To Meeting Bun


L. A. Marzulli

Matthew 24:3-8 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.

MARCH 19, 2011

OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'... 

MARCH 19, 2003
BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'...

U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

Last night I appeared on Daniel Ott’s radio program, The Edge. We discussed world events and how they link to the passage of prophecy above. The devastating earthquake and tsunami that hit Japan a week ago took our eyes off of the Middle East, but nevertheless the uprising, tension, and civil war that is plaguing the region continued unabated. Now we see yet another war being started by a coalition of European forces. Just a reminder that we are still fighting in Afghanistan after almost 10 years with no end in sight, and the sectarian violence continues in Iraq. Now we are firing cruise missiles into Libya. What’s next? Please read the above passage from Matthew and ask yourself this; are there wars and rumors of wars, is nation rising against nation – kingdom against kingdom? Are there famines, pestilence, and earthquakes? I rest my case.

These are the beginnings of sorrows and I believe there is a dark, supernatural force that is behind it. I stated in late 2009 that I felt that something had shifted in the heavenly realm and it wasn’t good. Shortly after, in 2010, we saw what I would term the beginning of sorrows. What I believe has happened is this; the time of The Fallen Cherub, The Dragon, Satan, is now at hand, and we are seeing his hate for the human race manifesting in some of the disasters, and wars that happening on a global scale. I am certainly NOT saying that all of this is his handiwork, but I believe that some of what we see bears his fingerprints.

In closing todays BUN: The times we are living in are unprecedented as the disasters add up, the wars continue and the uncertainty of what tomorrow will bring has people living on the edge. There is a supernatural, there is a war being raged in another dimension that is spilling over into ours. Prophecy is true and was written for our benefit, so that when we see these things begin to happen we would know that His coming is at hand. The natural man or woman cannot make sense out of what is taking place, because he cannot discern the things of the spirit and he knows nothing of prophecy. The Spirit filled man or woman can discern the signs of the times and prepares his or hers heart for what is coming on the earth….

198 thoughts on “Sunday Go T0 Meeting Bun…

  1. I know it’s been in vogue here and elsewhere to criticize Harold Camping’s bible study regarding May 21st as being too hasty, presumptuous, and de facto erroneous.
    Maybe it is.
    Nevertheless, I find it to be a most useful experiment. If I were to privately ask myself “What if it was possibly true, would I live my life differently?”
    Unfortunately the answer has been “no.” I haven’t been more aggressive in my witnessing. I haven’t tied up loose ends relationship-wise. If anything, I’ve made a spectator sport out of everything unfolding, checking drudge and LA’s blog several times a day for the next big thing.
    I don’t begrudge Camping for what he’s done. He himself says in the preface to “Time Has An End,” “We are the first ones to understand that we are not infallible in our conclusions…If this world is still in existence after the end of 2011, we will know there is still much more we can learn from the Bible. Before that time, or at that time, we surely will receive correction from the Bible concerning any conclusions which prove to be in error.”

    I like that attitude.

    • The thing is if what this Harold is teaching is false (which it is!), that makes him a false teacher and there is no way around that. And we know Yahshuah warned us of false teachers among other things.

    • Well, it’s one thing to hold a mistaken belief, and quite another to deliberately mislead— to teach a lie on purpose.

      Seems to me that the false teacher is the one who knows he’s teaching lies. Mr. Camping may just very keenly feel like a sojourner in a strange, strange land who really can’t wait to go home.

    • We can not underestimate the smear campaign that is coming towards modern day Christians. I just read an article about a sick man who abducted, held captive and assaulted, perhaps tortured a female victim. This was the title of the article, “Sex Toys, Bible Evidence in Texas Kidnapping Case.” If you read the article, sadistic pornography and many other pertinent items to the case were listed. There was also a bible taken, however there was connection in the article whatsoever about why this maybe considered “evidence”. It was ludicrous and a door opened to associate Christians as hypocrites and guilt by association. How many crimes everyday are done in motel/hotel rooms across the world and there are gideon bibles present? What does that have anything to do with any connection?

      All this to say, this false teacher and others like him open the door for ridicule and scoffing. Many Christians will distance themselves from Christ on this basis alone. Soon there will be violence and even more will distance themselves. Like Peter denying Christ three times, Christians world wide will deny him for their own comfort and safety. Will we?

    • Apostle Paul talks about the mistery of iniquity all-ready working back then and now and apostle John says that he wondered with great admiration when he saw the whore… Why was he wondering? Because the whore is using the name of Jesus Christ for her veil of deception. Everything is much more complicated in the NT times.

      This is the case with everything that has a christian label on it but is ungodly underneath. It looks so innocent on the outside, but on the inside it is an abomination to God. Prophet Jeremiah and his warnings always come to mind. Nobody listened to him.

      On the previous blog I argued (like I always do) against the so called christian holidays. I see the hand of God removing them, through the heathens. He judged his people in the OT through heathen nations and today it is no different. And if people blindly defend this (instead of learning of his true holy days) because they do not understand this, they will be chastened the more till they get it.

      Revelation 17:16-17 (King James Version)

      And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

      For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

      Revelation 2:22-23 (King James Version)

      Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

      And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      Make sure you are not a part of a “child” of hers!

    • That’s why I listen to conservative radio. They’re onto these games of smearing Christians in the press (that sex toys Bible story is a great example of what I’m talking about.) This is done to make all Christians look like evil people while puffing up the Godless.

    • Bozz; agree it is like keeping up appearances, and in all of this masquerade will be the Two Horned beast False Prophet (Man of sin), Rev13, 2Thes2.

      He will be the procurer of the Lie, initiating the worship of the Image of the beast when God sends the strong delusion upon all who love not the Truth (the gospel of Jesus Christ).

      John b

    • “To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:

      These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

      11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.

    • My thoughts are that if anyone is going to be predicting the coming of Christ is invariably committing blasphemy. Jesus Christ, Himself, stated that He did not know the day or the hour, only the Father knew. Date setters make our Lord’s thoughts and sayings, in my opinion, laughable and something disregardable. Isn’t that what modern Christianity is today as depicted by our media? It’s laughable, harmless, and disdainable. I know there is a remnant, and that there are many Christians who think upon the Lord often. However, me must keep in mind that the assault on Christianity has yet to reach its climax.

      I remember L.A. talking refuting the cyclical nature of history. I don’t know if he and I are in agreement, but I will concur with his thought that we are racing towards a divinely appointed climax in what he deems as a “cosmic chess match.” Of course, I think chess is not the greatest anology in the sense that God created the creature, Satan, and we know the hubris of Satan is his pride and how much he relies on his own will (speaking of will, I think of the term “self-esteem” and the I can or I will which in my amateur studying of witchcraft is essential, that is the term of willpower).

      Whenever I come to this site, I see talk of holidays that are rooted in paganism. My thoughts are this, if these holidays offend you b/c of their un-Christian origin then fine, don’t celebrate. We should keep in mind when Paul talks of the weaker brother. However, for my family and me, I don’t think of the fertility rituals of some pagan goddess when celebrating Easter. I think of Jesus’s triumph, his resurrection. However, if this is offensive then from this point forth, I would not mention Easter for concern of causing offense of my weaker sibling in Christ.

    • How do you explain Revelation 18:4 then? If Christ is victorious why just not stay in the Joel Osteen`s church, Rick Warren`s church, Benny Hinn`s church and even catholic church? Why bother then? In the book of acts, there is a clear distinction being made between Passover and Easter (or his ressurection – the feast of first fruits). Paul was talking about food, I do not recall he was talking about pagan feast days which latter became “christianised.” God made all living creatures for us, to eat, regardless of certain pagan beliefs that this meat was sacrificed to idols. But did God made Easter? Or Christmass? Or did humans create/invented it, possibly even under the influence of demons? Paul also said not to be partakers of the demons table.

    • Bozz, first the question should never start as “if Christ is victorious”. He was, is, and shall be victorious. Second, you say that God made all living creatures for us, to eat, regardless of certain pagan beliefs that this meat was sacrificed to idols. But did God made Easter? Or Christmas? I would say just as surely as God made the animals that He made the days. Didn’t Adam name the animals? And hasn’t man named the holidays that he would celebrate except for the Jewish feasts? If your conscience pricks you to not celebrate Easter or Christmas, then please, do not celebrate these things as these things are a sin to you. Why would I want you to be offended? However, under Christian liberty, if I feel like celebrating the advent of Christ on December 25 or any day of my choosing then let God judge me. Did God make all living creatures for us to eat? I don’t recall seeing that God saying I made all living creatures for you to eat. I remember God telling Peter that “What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.” This was done within the context that Gentiles had also received the word of God. Is it not that Satan perverts the things that God has created? However, I refrain, if you are offended by Christmas, Easter, Good Friday, the winter solstice, tommorrow, today, then do not celebrate those things. If you are offended at the prospect of one day being esteemed above another as it straigtly says, then please do not. However, I think it is imperative to take things within the context they are given.

    • Ok, lets check the origin of things. And I won`t go all the way back to Babylon. Lets just start at the catholic church, because all this officially started at the council of Nicea. They introduced in Easter and Christmass. These things became abominable because when they have their mass, they contradict the book of Hebrews and go against the word of God. When they observed CHRIST MASS and EASTER, they had mass (transubstantiation and all those meaningless rituals). Now, when the reformation started, pilgrims started colonizing Nothern America. God fearing people. Obeying his word. Christmass was not allowed back then and all the other pagan festivals. They knew the difference and origin of things. Were they legalistic about this back then? I don`t know, but I know everyone of them knew and was obeying because of what the Word of God says. Not to mention that the institution that introduced this pagan holydays murdered their brothers and sisters on the old continent who had the same and only truth as they did.

      I was not talking about Peter and his vision, I was talking about Paul and his teachings concerning food and your connection from this to holidays, I expressed myself wrong.

      Yes he made the days, that does not mean he instituted Easter and Christmass.

      The only genuine christian holy day that I know of worth celebrating is thanksgiving.

      What makes a daughter harlot? There is a mother harlot. Who are the daughters and what are their characteristics? Daughter harlots are apostate protestants churches who imitate the mother harlot more and more with each day. You did not answer me on Revelation 18:4.

      If this days would be of a genuine christian origin, I would not be offended. Personally, everyday is all the 7 feasts of the Lord in 1 for me (but these 7 feast do not include Easter and so on).

      Victory in Christ Jesus

    • And from my personal experience, the atheist and all others are mocking us because of December 25th – Christ`s mass and other similarities with paganism. They say, “see Christianity is a fable because it is pagan in origin and copied from other civilizations. Jesus is Mythra, Horus and so on.”

      Whatever happened to BEING SEPARATE? If the world would see a clear distinction between God`s ordinance and the World`s ordinance, many would think differently. But because of this Zeitgeist for example has a field day with the origins of Christianity/Jesus Christ and can twist their twisted lies however they want and the world believes it, never researching the truth.

    • Ryan I would ask in a loving way, Is the Fathers will about you or what you think? No, this is about our Heavenly Father and His Son.. Glorifying Him and obeying him which when we do shows we love Him.. He has given us his commandments and his Feast Days (holy days) which are rehearsals and fulfillments of our Savior…

      Why would you choose to believe in a celebration that has the name of a Pagan Goddess who God detests, Easter? If you don’t believe me check on the history of the name Easter.

      or why would you choose to believe in a holiday that includes an egg laying rabbit.. How many egg laying rabbits have you seen? Satan takes some truth, the death of Christ and mixes it with lies… Satan is not an idiot..

      Yashua said he gives us one sign of his authenticy and that was just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a fish so will our Savior be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. He was speaking of his death and resurrection.

      People who celebrate Easter, celebrate “Good” Friday and say that is when Yahshua died and that he rose on Easter Sunday morning… No matter how hard you try you can’t get 3 days and 3 nights from “Good” Friday to Easter Sunday morning.. It’s a lie and doesn’t not point to our real Savior…

      Why not choose to do what our Father commanded us to do and our Savior kept and fulfilled our Father’s commandments and His Feast Day’s (Holy Day’s) they are not mixed up with a bunch of lies… They point to our true Messiah and they point to what is coming.. and no I am not a Jew but someone who is obedient to our Father and tired of the lies that are mixed in with Easter, Christmas and Halloween…

      At the very least ask yourself this, are there any lies mixed in with Easter? I have already stated a few.. If there are lies then it can’t be of our Father and His Son who died for you… For They are truth…

    • Bozz, I did answer you on Revelation 18:4. I said to keep things within the context they are given. Furthermore, the Bible never indicates that Jesus was in the grave for three days and three nights… Read the account as it is written.

      To Kirt, while I recognize that Easter comes from a pagan goddess, as I said that’s not what I and my family thinks when Easter comes around. Rather we think of the sacrifice that occurred on Passover. To both of you, I think you are both straining at a gnat while swallowing the camel. It’s easy to critique and assume that someone is of the world, which Channukah was a man created holiday, but even Jesus Christ recognized Channukah. Was Channukah ordained by God? No, but Jesus celebrated it. Was Jesus of the world, then why would he partake in a man-made feast? The wisemen and the shephards that were in the field celebrated the advent of Christ. While I do not know the day, I know there is nothing wrong with my family celebrating Christmas or Easter. While I do not know of any rabbit that lays colorful eggs, I do believe in a man-God that was a born of a virgin. If we were both realistic, both are scientifically improbable, but could happen, I believe the latter did. If it means something differently to other people then that is for other people to choose. As I said, if this is burdensome to you and you feel the need to burden others with this then that is your higher calling.

      To Kirt, you have made a categorical error “Why would you choose to believe in a celebration that has the name of a Pagan Goddess who God detests, Easter? If you don’t believe me check on the history of the name Easter.” I didn’t say I believed in a celebration-Easter… rather when I think of Easter I believe in the celebration of Christ’s triumph and that is how I will think of Easter. Just like we call a cat, a cat and those that speak Spanish call a cat “el gato.”

      To Bozz, I would say that God did institute Christmas, maybe not as “Christmas” but the day of Christ’s birth, and I would say God instituted Easter, although not necessarilty as “Easter” rather as Christ’s jubilant triumph over the sting of death.

      To Kirt, Maybe there are lies/traditions that are mixed in with the world’s celebration of Christmas and Easter, that doesn’t mean that it’s apart of mine. Did you all know that during Messiah’s reign on earth the heathen nation’s will still worship their gods? The only difference is that they will fear the Lord of Lord’s.

    • Ryan who’s thoughts are the thoughts we should follow and obey? our Almighty omnsicent Father or yours? not you or any man but Our Father.. Again He doesn’t want you keeping so called celebrations with things that are detestable to Him such as lies and Pagan names and pagan practice… …

      with your thought process than anyone could do anything they want and say but that’s my thought.. It His thoughts and his will that we need to conform to you..I ask why not keep the Holy days that he has told us to keep? they are not mixed with lies, pagan names and pagan practices.

      How is doing as our Fathers asks and Savior demonstrated straining at a gnat?? Do you know who Yahsua was talking to and what he was refering to when he made that statement??

      Our savior only gave one sign of his authenticy… “Good Friday” and Easter don’t add up.. its a lie… why continue practicing a lie when we can practice the Truth along with obeying what our Father has asked us to do?

    • Kirt, I ask again for understanding. Where in the account of the death and resurrection of Christ, does it state that he was in the ground for three days and three nights?

    • Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
      Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

      Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

      oh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

    • Colossians 2:16-18

      16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
      17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
      18Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

      If some here feel that they are led to worship God on saturdays or observe jewish holidays, well, than they have that freedom.

      Just don’t let anyone dictate what you should or should not observe.

      When I celebrate Christmas I celebrate Jesus’ birth.
      When I celebrate Easter I celebrate the ressuraction of Christ.

      What a shame and narrow minded view it would be if I told someone when and how I should celebrate Jesus. If someone wants to celebrate Christs birth in July – let them. As for pagan holidays……..

      I am not a pagan I am a follower of Jesus, so I do not see any day as pagan, thus I can freely celebrate Christianity on any day I wish.

      Confused……….read Galatians 3.

    • Camping will bring harm to the half-baked Christians and to those who may have been near to accepting Christ. It is a terrible deception. And it is not the first time he has picked a date. It is not excusable! I have had non-believers ask about this issue and it will turn them off when May 21st passes us by and we are still in the think of things here on Earth…

      This is more ammo for the mockers’ mocking and the rationalists who think we are idiots in general.

  2. “The Spirit filled man or woman can discern the signs of the times and prepares his or hers heart for what is coming on the earth….”

    So true, L.A. and I find myself saying a prayer of trepidation each morning as I turn on the computer or TV, “Oh Lord Jesus, help me understand, Thy will be done” then I click the on buttons and say, “Now what???”

  3. L.A. thanks for the bun. I agree totally with what you wrote.

    It is an opportune time to fix our eyes on the lord and be intent to his spirit.
    Only the spirit of the lord will accomplish what needs to be done, not by flesh, but
    by his spirit in us, as time/situations accelerate we will have to have a supernatural
    faith to counter what it is to come, until he who restrains, is taken out of the way.

    God bless the elect.

  4. A good magazine to study is Prophecy in the News.

    In their latest issue, March, 2011 is a report on Egypt..entitled: “EGYPT: Revolution and Prophecy”.

    I agree with L.A. about the Devil having a hand in all of this, but remember, The Revelation catastrophies are unleashed by God, not the Devil.

    Daniel’s 70th week, is detailed out in Revelation, right?

    • In the Revelation what is detailed is the unfolding of the last 2000 years including what is still coming in the near future. Daniel`s 70th week is past, otherwise the Messiah didn`t come the 1st time as was prophecied.

      You`re right. Chuck Missler said that what most of the church of God is suffering today of is a syndrom of “Sunday school Jesus”. What he meant by that is that we tend to separate the NT love doctrine from the rest of the OT judgments upon the peoples, especially his own. Nothing has changed in the last 2000 NT years. Jesus Christ is the everlasting atonement for our sins but other than that the same righteousness and conduct is demanded as in the OT and to top it all off, he set even higher standards to fulfill the law. Thank God that we are under his grace now and are partakers of his Holy Spirit but we have to follow him daily. The judgment begins at the house of God. The more I learn about history (all the players involved in certain events), the more I see the hand of God in each and every judgment that happened through history. The world is still the devils playground, but he has to abide to the rules of engagement and unfortunately he can unleash persecution upon us, but as apostle Paul said, Christ is glorified in our sufferings (like we will ultimately be glorified because of his suffering for us on the cross).

  5. A must read is: “As America Has Done to Israel” The Result: Masasive National Disasters, by John P. McTernan.

    Whenever we “diss” Israel, or even to suggest to to divide Jerusalm or have a 2-State solution, the U.S.A. gets “hit” with a Major Catastrophe in different areas of life.

    There’s approximately 20 reports about this, one being the Perfect Storm.

    Pres Bush Seniorat the Madrid Peace talks suggested the Division of Jerusalem…ok

    On that day, The Perfect Storm started brewing. He came back to the U.S. and the next day, his 3 story mansion was wiped out to the extent that he had to handle Damage Control personally.

    No hurricans ever form up on the New England Coastline, and travel southward…NEVER!

    The storm was so unique, that the Meteorologists couldn’t categorize or name it.

    Israel evidently is back under their Abrahamic and/or Davidac covenants.

    • What are some others? Was this the case at 9/11 and Katrina? I find stuff like this sO interesting.

    • Cap’n,
      I think this is the link:

      You are here: Sun Home→Collections→Fitzwater
      Even Bush isn’t spared: Storm wrecks Maine home
      November 01, 1991|By Karen Hosler | Karen Hosler,Washington Bureau of The Sun
      WASHINGTON — President Bush is about to join the hundreds of other Americans who have returned to their homes recently to find them wiped out by fire and natural disasters.

      A sudden, fierce storm that blew up along the Atlantic coastline Wednesday sent 30-foot waves crashing over the Bush family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, severely damaging the main buildings, ripping up the sea walls and scattering granite rocks from the coast throughout the property.

      “We’re talking boulders in the living room,” said White House spokesman Marlin Fitzwater.

      Mr. Bush, who has often described the 88-year-old stone and shingle resort on Walker’s Point as his sanctuary and the only real home he’s ever known, reshuffled some travel plans for the weekend so he can fly to Maine tomorrow to inspect the damage.

    • Hi Captain Eagle,

      Katrina was preceded by Bush pressuring Israel into withdrawing from Gaza.

      The Gulf oil explosion was preceded by Obama stating that the US would no longer unilaterally support Israel in UN votes.

      The economic slide that started in July 07 was preceded by Bush’s speech stating it was high time to get serious about implementing a two state solution in Israel.

      Even Japan issued a declaration condemning Israel’s building of homes in Palestinian territory. On March 11, the day of their 9.0 and tsunami.

      The week of 9/11, Bush was preparing to unveil his grand plan for implementing a Palestinian state.

      It goes on and on and on and on and on. God means business and He swore that whoever curses Israel, He would curse. Look at the mighty world empires that shortly crumbled after they persecuted or double crossed Israel: Egypt, Babylon, the Seleucids, Rome, Imperial Spain, Nazi Germany, England.

      Let’s get busy blessing Israel.

      Israel Omen by David Brennan is good.
      McTernan’s website has some info.

    • Yup— you smack Israel and God smacks you. And He’s got a really big hand. Acceleration Radio has an archival program about this; need some digging to find it

  6. Amen! The LORD JESUS is coming soon! Praise GOD!

    But first the antichrist will come and decieve many. We need to stay watchful….

    • The Spirit of Ac is already deceiving many in preparation to receive him the final One (man of sin)

      Coming out of Babylon is the only way one will not be taken in at his appearance on the world religious scene. It is upon all who are in Mystery Babylon that God will send the Strong delusion in order that they believe the Lie.

      I note: The Lie is not the strong delusion. The lie is from Satan, and the strong delusion is From God.
      It is God giving over the wicked to the lie by the deluding influence which He sends upon them.

      John B

    • Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots takes in far more than most realize I believe. Most want to stop with the Catholic church but you better look much deeper than that. You are just seeing the tail end of Babylon the great as most are seeing just her.

      There is too much to be said to say it here so each and every one, please work this out till you know the full depth of this.

      E. Gibbs.

    • Kirt,

      The Papacy was mothered by someone, she is less than 2,000 years old. Babylon was in existance long before that, check out the book “the two babylons” I forget the Author but he isn’t the only one that has the answers you need. Edward Hendrie also has a book titled “Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great”.

      You might find some info at and the read on his currant newsletter may give you something.

      We want to come to the knowledge of the truth.

      E. Gibbs.

    • Just a curious question: Who is it that will be lied too? If lost people are already in Satan’s grip, then who is it that all ‘this’ is for?
      (seriously asking…)

    • Dee,

      We are all being lied too by Satan and evil agents of men and the fallen angels including the nephilim.

      Yahshua gave His Word of Truth to sort it all out and then when we have come to Him and Trully repented of our sin and them remain obedient, He then dwells in us and His Spirit enlightens His Word to us and He leads us into all truth. –

      Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

      Blessings Dee, you asked a very good question.

      E. Gibbs.

    • Thank you E. Gibbs,
      I am not for the pre trib rapture. (would I like to go home and be with YESHUA now? Absolutely! Not b/c I want to ‘escape’ responsibilities, but b/c I really want to be with HIM.
      I pray the Holy Spirit leads all of us into a greater understanding of HIS Word. My main concern right now is that with all the current events, people are looking forward to being raptured and will not.
      Just think how many times you thought something was going to go a certain way (in the LORD) and it didn’t turn out that way? You were probably very disapointed-its only natural…. However, with the LORD leaving us here to endure the tribulation period (not wrath-I believe these are two different things), many will be weak or become even weaker. I know in myself, I can do nothing apart from the LORD. I am very weak….

  7. In the past few months I fellowshiped here and there with a pastor I met. He believes the pre-trib view and a few days ago I presented to him my case of why I do not agree with this end time theology. I especially emphasized the point that people to whom he preaches, he must present the whole picture and not just give them the “Sunday school Jesus.” I told him that I believe that we will be here for the great falling away and that people have to be warned, otherwise it`s possible they will fall away not being prepared for the hard times ahead of us. Since he believes that we will be secretly whisked away, he does not agree with me. His job is hard because it is like the days of Noah (nobody wants to hear about Jesus on the streets, much less about persecution), but nevertheless he established a small fellowship. To make the story short, after this conversation he did not reply nor contacted me anymore. I wondered why, but now that I found this explanation bellow I get the picture.Just thought I`d share my experience with you:

    In contemporary western Christianity, post-tribbers are looked upon with pity and suspicion. Some think we have a “martyr complex.” Others think we are just troublemakers, wanting to rock the boat. Post-tribulationism just doesn’t seem to fit in with the prosperous lifestyles of contemporary western Christianity. The lack of real persecution and hardship has led many to assume that this is the normal Christian life. But, according to Scripture, persecution, tribulation, and hardship, is the real “normal” Christian experience. The comfort western Christians have enjoyed for the last few generations is an anomaly that will soon come to an end. The theological “comfort zones” we have constructed around this anomaly are about to come crashing down.

    For those who are honestly considering the various views of the rapture timing, and are open to God’s leading regarding this issue, there is plenty of opposition ahead for you. The “rapture question” has been a hot potato issue in the recent past. In some cases, splitting churches. Christians who have abandoned the pre-trib view and been the least bit vocal about it have often found themselves being offered the “right foot of fellowship.” Many pastors who have abandoned pre-trib have lost their churches, and missionaries have been abandoned by their mission boards and supporting churches because of their switch to the post-trib view. So, if you have no tolerance for hardship, you had better stop here. If you’ve got the guts to face the truth head on no matter what it is, then please continue.

    Some say it really doesn’t matter if Jesus is coming before or after the tribulation, as long as we are “ready.” They think we should all just agree to disagree, and love one another. But, “ready” is a relative term! It begs the question, “ready for what?” There is a huge difference between being ready to be gently whisked away to heaven on a pillow, and being ready to become a martyr at the hands of Antichrist! Is surface harmony worth the risk of huge numbers of believers being caught totally unprepared spiritually, emotionally, and physically? What about the “many” believers whom Jesus mentioned in Matt. 24:9-13 who would fall away when the deception and persecution of the last days arrives? If Jesus’ coming is several decades away, then perhaps the rapture debate is not all that critical. But, if Jesus is coming soon as the signs seem to indicate, one’s views on the timing of the rapture are crucial to being prepared to be an overcomer in the difficult days before His coming.

    Knowledge of what lies ahead motivates people to prepare. A rookie soldier, who knows he is about to be shipped to the front lines in a brutal war, will have a much different attitude about basic training than a new recruit who joined up to get a free education and a pension! The soldier who is about to engage the enemy knows his training may mean the difference between life and death. He learns survival techniques; he gets physically fit; he learns his weapons inside and out; he makes sure his weapons are in good working order; through countless hours of practice he becomes a marksman. He also prepares himself mentally for combat and the possibility of being a POW. His objective is clear; he is fully equipped; and he is mentally focused on getting the job done and coming home in one piece! On the other hand, the new peace-time novice, with big ideas of a comfortable career, could have a ho-hum attitude about basic training. If he is unexpectedly thrust into a fierce battle, he will find himself woefully unprepared. While staring down the barrel of the enemy’s rifle is not the time to be fumbling around for your weapon’s instruction manual. He might just conclude that this is not what he signed up for!

    If it really doesn’t matter what we believe about the last days, why did God devote such a large portion of His Word to end-time prophecy? Is it just filler material? Is it for intellectual entertainment? The answer is really quite simple. Prophecy was intended to provide the kind of motivation needed to turn flabby pew-potatoes into Christian soldiers. This website is an introduction to “basic training” for Christians, alerting them of the coming trials we will soon face in time to prepare themselves and their families spiritually and emotionally, and perhaps even physically at the proper time. And don’t kid yourselves about your own or your family’s ability to easily digest the emotional implications. Without strong spiritual character first, Christians who live at relative ease in the western world often react badly to the idea that they may soon face the Antichrist, and all the venom that hell can dish out on God’s children.

    • IMHO, if someone believes in pre-tribulation (and I do not judge that position), just please I pray, if they are faced with tribulation that they have the faith to say, “so be it, it is God’s will.” Those that can not say that will be among those who fall away.

      Luke 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

      It does not get any plainer than that. This is so, not because God desires sacrifice, but because Satan will demand it. The ultimate ultimatum. Satan will create a scenario where we must choose. Worship the A.C. or worship the One true God.

    • Bozz and Hopeful Watcher,

      Why do we incessantly argue about when there and when there isn’t a rapture or the timing thereof? All I know is that we are not appointed for the wrath and that per Jesus we should pray that we are worthy to escape. Who is that who is worthy? From the Bible, I know that there is going to be such a great delusion that if it were possible even the very elect would be deceived. Also, I consider Enoch and his situation before the flood of the earth. Also, consider Lot, the man who commits incest with his daughters in a drunken stupor who was called righteous Lot. I think the church will be derided just like Lot was derided by his once future son-in-laws and by the people of Sodom. Remeber Lot initially only dwelt in the plains that were near Sodom and Gomorrah, but before God pours out his wrath on the cities of the plain, Lot is dwelling within the gates of Sodom. I think this is analogous of the Church. Initially, the Church started out as not being a part of the world, but it has grown so wordly that it’s political and of this world. Remember what the people of Sodom said to Lot.. per KJV Genesis 19:9: And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to staly a little while, and he keeps acting as a judge, now will we deal worse with thee, than with them(the angels). And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.”

    • Why does it bother you so much that we do? Hey, I am not arguing one way or the other. Not claiming I know. My point here and has always been that if you find yourself in the tribulation, don’t blame God (as many might, because that is what people do when they feel forsaken), blame Satan. That’s it. People believe pre, mid, post, pan etc. whatever. I don’t care. I reinforce faith in Jesus Christ through all trials, no matter what. It is not about survival. It is about salvation.

      Would you disagree with me on that? If not then we are not as different as you think.

    • No, I won’t disagree, if my family and I are faced with that I pray that the Holy Spirit will give me what I need to respond. It just seems it’s a vain thing to dispute what God may or may not do except that we know that God is, and that He will do what He say He will do. The vanity of such argument is what bothers me, unless we are trying to build one another up, or we are as iron sharpening iron. Whenever I hear of this argument, I wonder how this edifies. I think there is so much pride in either position. One position boasts escapism so that Christianity is passive, another boasts pride in the fact that we will go through the great tribulation as a sort of holier than thou attitude. Rather we should pray as Christ suggests, that we are worthy to escape. Those are my thoughts, before His wrath is poured upon the inhabitants of the world.

    • I can trust God to keep me in the midst of calamity upon the wicked if i be one who partake not in their wickedness.

      The Israelites were taken into the promise Land after the judgment and plagues upon Egypt.

      john b

    • My intention is not to argue either. I believe post-trib and pre-wrath. If someone else doesn`t that is his choice. I am just saying be prepared. There is no pride here nor vanity. Was Jeremiah prideful when he tried to warn people? Was William Tyndale prideful when he said to a catholic bishop I will make a boy that plows the field, more knowledgable of the Word of God, then the clergy? They and many others were just exalting the truth.

    • I’m just saying why warn? What’s the point? It’s vanity. Whether I live today and die tomorrow? If God allows me to remain or go through great tribulation, isn’t He holy? Why warn here of all places? I believe that people here are more aware of Jesus Christ than those beyond this forum. I would counter and say why mention Jeremiah if you’re not prideful? Are you not comparing yourself to a man much more humble and had a much more difficult life than I assume you have had. I don’t think that you have been lowered into a dungeon filled with mud, receiving just bread and water. I’m just saying that the prophets, and apostles are examples, but I will never be the men that these were, nor would I compare myself to them, for I am a vile person on my own merit, except that I am redeemed by Christ. For what is the truth being exalted here? What am I saying is that these disputes and contentions do not edify and they are vain in that in my opinion that people who discuss in this forum probably know more about the truth than those without this forum, right? Thus, if you’re warning already aware people, is this not vanity? I would be full of pride if I said that this was not vanity, but what am I? I am a fool. Remember the church at Philadelphia.

    • Am I prideful or are you seeing me prideful? That is the question you should ask yourself. I am not comparing myself to anybody. I am not worthy to wash the feet of this men that walked before me. Who`s example should I follow then and talk about? Daffy Ducks?

    • Powerful piece there Bozz, and it does an excellent job of showing the dangers of becoming too heavily invested in a pretrib rapture. If it does happen great Glory Hallelujah!! but we must indeed consider and be PREPARED for the possibility that it may not lest we fall into despair and fall away from the Lord. Everyone should really read the article and give it due consideration regardless of when they think the tribulation is coming. Randy Ph

    • Here are just a few versed that plainly show our King’s return and the gathering unto him..

      Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

      2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. (thinking that the day of the Lord immenent [ (enestaken) = standing near, impending, cloase at hand]
      2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, (what day? The day of the Lord’s return) except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
      2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

      first we will see the great falling away, then we will see the antichrist.. no mention of us being gathered unto Christ before these events (pre-rapture). notice these events are first.. there are more…

    • Gotta say Ryan did smack the nail with the hammer with his last rebuttal there. Too much pride else why incessently repost this every Sunday? Is anyone’s convictions going to change because some seem to want other’s to agree with them? I can and have rebutted these argmuments of post trib, but I grew weary and tired of helping divide the brethren. Others alas have not.

    • Hallelujah and praise the Lord Faithfulelect… you have uncovered the dilemma and misunderstanding. I do not come here and try and get anyone to agree with me, you just think I do. Ryan IS right, if that were the case that would be prideful vanity. However that is not the case.

      Please read further so that I may clarify and we can finally come to an understanding on this once and for all. Please, what ever you do, do not stop believing in your view on the rapture. It is pointless to argue and will only divide us. I believe Satan would like nothing more than to see that happen. However, do know what I have been saying all along, that to go through a tribulation does not equal being forsaken by the Lord. And that is the crux of our position, because there are many who WILL feel forsaken. Ryan agreed with me on this point above. That no matter what the trial, faith in Jesus is priority number one. That is good enough for me. This edifies, builds up and places faith in in Jesus.

      Can any of us place ourselves into the shoes of Stephen and say that we would react in the same way? To face our executioners who are about to stone us, drop to our knees, raise our hands and pray, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!”

      If so, then we are where we need to be spiritually, no matter what the timing of the rapture is. But if instead we curl up in a fetal position and beg the stoners that we will change our ways if they spare us, then we have lost the spiritual battle and fallen into Satan’s hands.

      You may get aggravated that this topic gets brought up often, but shouldn’t we take a head check on our spiritual readiness before we are faced with hardships (if God forbid it comes to that). To wait will be too late.

    • Hopeful_Watcher, I think I have a better understanding of your position, but let me ask this question because I think I know but what do you think? What makes a person righteous? I think it’s good that you want people to be ready. That is very important because even our Lord exhorts us to watch. However, what I often notice is that people want to belabor the small things. There was instance of this in Acts chapter 15, whether Gentiles should keep the law. How much of the law should they keep? Read the anwer in verse 20 by James. It’s interesting.

      Yes, we should have spiritual readiness, but can I ever be ready enough to stare down death?!?! As I said, I just hope that Christ will strengthen me in that moment and that I won’t fail Him as I so often do. Rather I can put on my spiritual armor to resist the missiles of the enemy, and I can use the sword of the Lord to rebuke evil. Whether pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, we should be discerning the times at hand and look up for our redemption draws near. To Faithful_elect, all we can do is have charity for everyone, remembering that Christ himself that there would be those “worthy to escape.” I don’t know the timing of the rapture, but I hope to see everyone in this forum at the wedding dinner of Christ.

    • A person is righteous when they place their faith in Jesus as their savior and do the Lord’s will through witnessing for Christ and planting seeds into people’s heart, no matter what the consequence of that action is.

      You don’t need to be ready to “stare down death” as you say, because we do not need to fear death at all. This is such a reoccurring theme in the bible, it frustrates me that so many side step it. Death is not the end. Jesus overcame it. We have a hope no matter what is thrown at us. We can walk through the valley of shadow of death, and not fear that evil!!

      I am sorry if this sounds morbid to some, but it is the truth. It is biblical truth. Do not fear the first death, but fear the second. Do not worry, because we can not add a single minute to our life. If you seek to save it you will lose it. I could go on and on.

      Do I have a martyr complex? No way, no way. I have a wife and kids. I am not eager to go anywhere. But the truth is, we don’t need strength or even courage to face death and overcome. We need truth and faith in that truth. Mark my words, every Christian will have their “Peter” moment before this is all said and done. Will we deny Jesus or boldly proclaim Him?

  8. I’d like to see a show of hands…how many here have actually read Harold Camping’s writings on the subject of May 21st???

    That’s what I thought…nobody.

    So how can you so smugly conclude he’s a false teacher? That judgement in and of itself is dangerous. Even if his teaching is off the mark, who among us is willing to pick up the first stone? Who among us here hasn’t said something that later proved to be false, even among those of us who have been in teaching roles? We all have.

    I’m continually amazed how the attitudes of the world we’re so quick to condemn (re: rush to judgement, presumptuousness, pride, believing we’re right and everyone else is wrong, contentiousness, feeling like we’ve got it “figured out,” etc.) are alive and well in our own camp.

    Instead of judging him, why don’t we pray for him? Instead of insulting him as so many do who call into his radio program, why not pour love out on him? The man’s 89 years old, for heaven’s sake! He’s been preaching the gospel for 50 years. Can’t we shower a little grace on him instead of hatred and contempt?

    • God is no respecter of persons. We are hardware on the outside, but we are software on the inside. And it`s the software that matters. We can not see the software but we can recognize it if we operate with the right program.

      I do not disrespect anybody, I judge the program he is operating with.

      1 Corinthians 6:2-3 (King James Version)

      Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

      Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

    • Whoa whoa. I have no contempt for this guy. And yes, I took a look at his website, so you also are jumping to conclusions and condemning. From what I saw, he is playing the numbers game and coming to some date based on his interpretation. Sorry to say, but I believe Satan himself knows the bible as good as anyone and can play those number games as well so that we think we have it figured out when we really don’t.

      I was in the same boat as him a year ago, running around with a date in mind and telling people. Being a false teacher can be as simple as letting pride get the better of you and who here hasn’t let that happen before.

      Now the message is a completely different story and it is that which I will stand up and say, “no way.” Plain and simple, Jesus will not come unless the A.C. has revealed himself first. No A.C. then no Jesus. The burden of proof is not on me to discount him, it is for him to prove his case. He has not sold me.

    • What book of his did you read? A quick glance at his internet site doesn’t count. (Thanks for reminding me I’m being smug…it’s just that nobody ever quotes from his books. Nobody frankly seems to know what they’re talking about when it comes to Camping. So impress me with your research.)

      As for saints judging saints, I think history has proven we aren’t up for that task yet. Nor will we be until the Millenium rolls around. Until then, I think we should take a cold shower and calm down.

      Everyone is missing my point…why be disrespectful of the man? Do you want people to be disrespectful of you whenever you make a mistake?

      What’s interesting about the internet is that people say stuff they’d never dream of saying to a person’s face. Like calling me “smug,” for example. You’d say that if we were standing on a street corner talking like adults? I hope not! The same goes for Harold. You’d call him a false teacher and a liar to his face if you were sitting at a table discussing end times? I hope not!

    • Number one I have no need or desire to impress you. Number two you brought up the smugness in your post, just throwing it back at you, number three your comment about in the street smacks of a threat . maybe I read it wrong but it sure sounds like it to me.Number four I have not disparaged Mr Camping though I believe he is wrong. I have been following his radio show for some time now! sorry if I did not bother to buy his books and finanically support him.

    • I had my hand up too. I looked into the “familyradio” arm of his ministry after seeing the sidewalk bench several months ago which said “Judgement Day…May 21, 2011”.

      I don’t judge him for what he beleives; however, I do have a problem with the way he is spreading the date setting. “Judgement Day”….My guess is that most who notice it will do little more than snicker and think “what a kook”.

      Lynne – I saw your earlier post; What if Camping is wrong- and people are changing the way they live- but may be like me and procrastinate. What if they believe him and thing they have 2 mos and 1 day. What if they decide to change but don’t get around to it for another month, and what if he is wrong and it happens BEFORE May 21? Obviously, I’m not saying it will or won’t. I’m saying why set a date at all?

      I have come face to face my own mortality on more than one occasion- Each time, I panic that I am not ready- I think, “I haven’t done enough”. My point is, even if we were able to pinpoint a date…I would venture to guess that a handful of people (if that) would be “ready”.

    • Lynne,

      I hear H. Camping many times on Short Wave radio and he has put his prophecy out now for some time. I know he had aired it at least a month before it began to be reviled by many.

      I’m fairly certain he is in his 90’s now and for that age he is very brilliant and knows scriture well. I don’t go hard on people who set dates as God gives prophecy out to prophets in the “now” and even Paul was wrong on that score and he wasn’t alone as probably most of the disciples thought He would return in their day. – –

      Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

      The false salvation gospel is far worse, as one can count his as a wake up call, sure he hurts his notoriety and condidence people have in his prophcies.

      There has been many of them and some will set it too far in the future too, just watch.

      E. Gibbs

    • There’s no threat about standing on a street corner and talking…that just shows you’ve been watching too many Rocky movies!
      As for financially supporting Camping by getting his books, what you don’t realize is that his books are all available for free.
      I’m still waiting to hear from anyone who’s actually read his books, any of them. Which of you would like to be accused by someone, only to have your accuser say “Well, I heard you said this or that.” Wait a minute, isn’t that what Jesus’ accusers said at his trial?
      My point is this…where’s the love?

    • Number six, since it is becoming apparent your agenda is to cause strife I shall just ignore you. God bless you, I will be praying for you.

    • Lynne,

      I never got any of H. Camping’s books but I hear him often on “Family Radio” and his call in show that he answers people’s questions, and he never fails to give a good answer backed with valid scripture. I always like to hear peoples questions and sometimes I would give a somewhat different answer but the man is well versed better than most for sure. He has been doing that for years now and with anyones preaching we are to take it to the Word of God. No man has a perfect understanding and so has no right to cast the first stone.

      E. Gibbs.

    • Yes, it’s interesting to me that it doesn’t move like the ufo in the other videos. The overall shape isn’t the same either. Also, why just 3 seconds long?

      All that said, I am very new to all of this… 😉

    • I am no expert either. I know they exist. The question is how much of this technology is really ours. When they will hover over our cities, I will be able to say: Yep, this looks real.

  9. ***RE-POST FOR L.A.***
    Saw three more of those “starry craft” last night. Same area, same time…heading in same direction. Curiouser and curiouser.

    • Can’t afford any of that high tech equipment (on fixed retirement-disability income.) Admittedly, it would be great to share with everyone what my neighbor and I have seen. But alas… all I can do is stare and report here.

  10. My combinred responses for yesterday:

    Matt – Oh, that raccoon freaked me out!! The first night I was in here working and I did hear something scampering around in the hallway but we live in the country and get mice every winter (it’s just something you have to live with) and I assumed it was a mouse. Imagine my surprise when I went past my bedroom and saw a HUGE raccoon looking at me! In the end there were 3 that got in here that week and we only trapped 1 and killed it. The other two are too smart for the trap but I hear them in the ceiling. They can’t get in now because we put plywood over our entire ceiling. I’ll stain it up now that it’s spring and it’ll look kinda classy. But, yeah, I was not too excited about that and I couldn’t sleep at night for a while until we did the whole ceiling for fear another one might get in here and actually attack me.

    Kevin – I seem to have some European Jewish relatives in my tree so I might have some Hebrew blood. But are they all left behind for blood alone, even when they are Christians? (I’m sure nearly everyone must have a drop of everything in their bloodlines…besides If Adam and Noah are considered Hebrew, which there is some debate about I understand, then doesn’t everyone have Hebrew blood in them?)

    Kimberly – Yep, I, too, and ALWAYS amazed when you find a news story that gives whole new meaning to the language used in the Bible. (like Abel’s blood calling out) I debate the boss’ son (who’s an Atheist) about this stuff all the time at work. He thinks it’s all coincidence and just reading stuff into Scripture but when it says what it says and you know it was NOT corrupted by a bunch of priests in the middles ages (as many nonbelievers claim) then you MUST take it at EXACTLY what it says. But these are the sorts of AH-Ha! Moments I love when studying Scripture. It really brings it alive for me. (I did know that about the DNA and light too. I just didn’t want to blow your mind too much in one post. 😉 )

    Kevin – Did you know there’s a Chitty Chitty Bang Bang musical? It has several new songs and some, but not all, fit right in with the original. The Sherman brothers wrote these new songs as well. One of my favorites is sung by the Vulgarian spies. The title? Think Vulgar! Ha Ha!!! And the Child Catcher even has a creepy lullaby song and there’s a few others. I enjoy the new verses of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang myself. (They turned the opening sequence of the car’s racing past into a great song sequence) The only thing they didn’t put in I wished they had is they were going to have the Dick van Dyke character and Truly Scrumptious sing a love song at the finale (and it was BEAUTIFUL!!) before the finale of the title song. The original demo from the 1960’s is on the DVD version. The only thing though is if you get the CD you’ll want to edit out the “God!s” the British cast exclaims. I can’t stand that. My edited version plays fine though.

    And by the way, all you Roald Dahl fans, he wrote the screenplay for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang based on an Iam Flemming James Bond’s creator) story. 😉

    Matt – Yeah, I agree. The bands today are hollow (as are most of the actors) and you can see it by comparing old songs and films and TV shows with some made today. I really enjoying watching that guy on the Big Bang Theory who is so up tight. Now there’s a great character actor character at play. That show is starting to become obsessed with sex though and I hope it gets back to character stories. L They ALWAYS have to ruin a fun thing with worldliness…

    Bozz – Why do you always attack but never offer any persuasive proof to back it up? I have stated historical FACT that the way of Satan is to take something of God’s and corrupt it. The Hebrew star chart becoming the pagan zodiac and the day of the Great Flood becoming Halloween are two prime examples. None of us here are worshiping pagan gods when we acknowledge the birth and resurrection of Christ on the traditional times of year that they have always been observed. What you are doing is EXACTLY what the Pharoses and Sagacious of Christ’s day did. They were so caught up in every little rule and regulation, many of which they twisted and elaborated on themselves, that they missed the WHOLE POINT! Nothing I have read indicates that God WANTS to punish and condemn people over little, minute things. In fact, Jesus expressly said He didn’t come to condemn but to save people. I get the same flack from church people who say that we should not reach out to the “unclean” because it will “hurt our testimony. Even though this is EXACTLY WHAT JESUS DID! In fact, it was even used against Him as evidence that He was a “false prophet!! Yet He was ALWAYS found amongst the sinners because He was trying to lead them to His Father. That is why I don’t get caught up in the nonsense. God knows we aren’t celebrating paganism but the Gift of His Son. That’s just how it is. And you come on here trying to threaten us with the judgment of God against us for doing this. Don’t you see the trap you are falling into? Don’t be like the lost temple leaders of Christ’s day. Be like His disciples!

    And, Amen Matt! I enjoy all of that holiday stuff too but I don’t mix it with paganism either.

    And, yep, those cartoons were in color.

    Matt – If I came into contact with an alien I’d start calling upon Jesus and see what happens. All those human mutilation stories freak me out and I don’t want to end up on that list. (and those happen in PA!!) I have had that strange evil presence feeling in bed too (Not a raccoon! Ha Ha.) I just start praying.

    I’d love to see that Coast photo. Got a link?

    Ha Ha Ha!!! That gay couple with a doll is hilarious! But I can top it! About 10 years ago I bid on a 2 foot tall plush of Yukon Cornelius and I lost but some guy in Florida (I don’t know if he was gay but right off the bat he was like “you should move in with me” and I was like “uh, No”…. So who knows what that was.) who also lost started emailing me. I was always friendly (I hate being rude) and he told me he lived alone and he not only had a toy son he’d dress and take around everywhere, he had SEVERAL mannequins dressed as TV characters that he lived with. Among them were Batman and Robin, Samantha from Bewitched, Dr. Smith from Lost in Space, and Dr. Bellows from I Dream of Jeanie. He told me he would set down to have Thanksgiving Dinner with them and everything. I’m just a magnet for these oddballs. They’re always coming out of the woodwork to meet me. Ha Ha.

    Now I’ll never look at Pinocchio the same way again….

    • But you are implying we ARE observing pagan days when we wish to celebrate the birth and ressurection of Christ. Since no one knows the exact date of either event for sure we can only observe them on an “official” day on those two dates. I dwell upon them daily but I still like to joinin as the community comes together to celebrate them with me. That’s what Christmas and Easter mean to me.

    • Will you observe Christmas with muslims, buddhist, hinduists and all others when they join the party in the coming one world religion?

    • Because you are all-ready observing it with atheists. It`s worldliness, you see Christ, they see materialism and a free week to kick-back. Muslims will see Isa, Buddhists will levitate, Hinduist`s will see 300.000.000 of their gods and new agers will see aliens. But it`s all good. Because everything is one God.

      It`s not the day that is at issue here, it`s what represents. By represent I mean origin.

    • No, I am not celebrating Christmas with these other groups because they are NOT observing the birth of Christ.

      It represents the Birth of Christ and nothing more.

      It (and Easter) are also the two days out of the year where you can reach out to non believers and they are more open to listening about Jesus. You can reach out year round but people are more open to hearing about it at these two times of the year. Look in your local Target and Walmart. Easter is the one time of the year where you can EASILY find Christian and Bible media sold in the forefront. That means it reaches out to more people. Easter is also the one time of year that you can find a respectful Biblical film on NETWORK TV, the Ten Commandments. They even triedto replace it with a Godless version and it FAILED.

      At Christmas you have the same thing but not as clear cut. You can find It’s A Wonderful Life embraced as America’s favorite holiday movie (right before A Christmas Story) and look at the theme. It’s telling you that EVERY SINGLE person’s life holds a purpose. It’s a very uplifting story even though it is fictional. But what are the masses responding to? That every man is important and God loves enough enough that He will personally intervene in our times of trouble.

      I can go on but rather than reaching out to the world and bringing them to Christ I suppose you’d rather we turn our backs on them and live in our little bunkers.

      What I am taking issue with is the when Jesus came here he expressly spoke out against the sort of nitpicking that people in your camp are doing. (and that ain’t no Sundy School Jesus. We saw His wrath too.) When He made such a big deal about NOT doing this then why ignore what He said and behave this way? That’s all I’m saying.

      These holidays provide a great opportunity to reach out to others in the glory of Christ. That is why the world is trying to throw Christ out of the holidays. They know tis and fear this and I say we can’t let them eliminate Him bcause they see His presence at these holidays as a true threat to their way of thinking and we need to embrace that and snuff out the darkness of the world.


    • In your second post, Bozz, you also attack Christians who celebrate Christmas as being accepting of a one world relgion. What is your problem? I don’t believe any of us here are going to fall into the trap of a one world religion. And to go and make a baseless belittling cheap shot of a snide comment like that is very little of you and extremely condesending. It’s also something I have a hard time seeing Jesus do, even “sunday school Jesus”. Such behavior would be beneath Him.

    • Jesus told us not to let others bother us about which holidays/traditions to celebrate so I’m stickin where the Spirit leads me personally. In my backslid days when I was starting to come back around I chose to go to a church just for the “Easter” service. Christianized paganism what-have-you. God still draws the lost in His arms through these traditions so His view doen’t appear to be quite the same as some of ours.

      By the time the One World Religion organizes the true saints of God will be so spiritually out of here it won’t even be debateable.

    • Captain, my response to you is the same as to Ryan. Scroll up and read about early protestantism and the movie Zeitgeist. In the end all I can say is, this is prophecied to happen.

      Also think of it this way Captain, would Israelites in the OT accept a common day with all the -ites around them on which they would worship God together, regardless of their differences? Because the day is coming when the religions of the world will unite in apostasy. And if a certain day like Christmas becomes something implemented there also, how will you see it then? Not saying that it will happen but that is probably how true Christians felt when 325AD came around. If you can not beat them, join them …and change the times and laws.

      Enough of my rant.

    • AMEN! LNL and Cap’n Eagle. I know several “C&E’s” who get their only exposure to Christ on those two days.

      I can only hope that a seed is planted during those times which will take hold and cause someone to search for an actual relationship Jesus. To me, that’s an extremely important aspect of both Christmas and Easter.

    • The movie zeitgeist actually says the Jesus wasn’t Divine. Just an FYI. I saw it years ago and tis point was even reported when that AZ shooter was obsessed with it. That film is no friend to Jesus….even if the banking stuff has some truth to it.

      But, Bozz, I have two points for you about the Hebrews of the OT and coming together.

      1.) The coming of Jesus opened up salvation from Yeweh to EVERYBODY.

      2.) The world is trying to ABOLISH Christmas. They are even trying to strip the name Christmas out of everything. If a new global holiday “Winter Day…Solstice Day….Whatever Day) takes its place without any Christ in it that’s no longer Christmas or the same holiday at all. You would no longer be celebrating what the same thing as the world (if this is what even happens to Christmas) but right now it’s about Christ’s birth so God bless Christmas!

    • Jennifer – and that’s what I’m saying. This is when you are best able to plant Jesus seeds in the hearts and minds of men. EMBRACE THAT!!! I’m so tired of having Christ based stuff hijacked from us to the point no one wants to touch it any more. They’ve corrupted God’s Hebrew star chart so now few are even aware how the zodiac really started. They’ve turned a global date to remember the Great Flood into Halloween and few people know. They’ve taken Saint Patrick, who was a VERY Godly man, and made a date set aside to honor his Godly life into a day of getting drunk and having public sex. Saint Nicholas was another Godly men who was even there when the Bible was assembled. But we don’t even know about the real man anymore. We have given up the film industry, which is the way it is now because the Church left Hollywood to save a few bucks. We have even lost our Godly, Christian heritage that is America’s.

      Why do we have to keep giving up what is God’s to Caesar? I refuse to and will educate on the truth until my last dying breath!

    • 1.)Regardless if they repent of their pagan ways or not?

      2.)It`s not the world. It`s God`s will. He decreed to give the world over to the beast, till everything gets fulfilled as is His will and is written. Probably he got tired of being mixed in with lies. The time of repentance (change of mind among other things) is growing short and God will shake the olive tree.

      Captain I am just debating the truth as the Spirit leads me to. I did not mean to offend you. But if we would grasp the true fear of the Lord, we would search the scriptures 247 to really get it right.

      God bless you brother.

    • Bozz – You said that the OT Hebrews would not celebrate their Holy Days with others. I accurately pointed out why that was and you turn it into another Pagan accusation. I have no pagan ways to repent of.

      What lies are you claiming God is mixed with?

      I’m not offended. I just don’t get this train of thought when it goes against what Jesus told us to be doing. If He said not to knitpick like the leaders of His day then why is is even an issue?

      Yes, I have fear of the Lord. More than you know. I fear His wrath every day. The fear has hung over me for years. That’s where some of my unworthy feelings come from. And when you get people who come around and accuse a Christian brother of worshipping Satan or being a Pagan I can see why a lot of people hate us Christians.

      God bless you too.

    • I never said you are a pagan 🙂 I said the things people cling to are pagan in origin and Christ is mixed in with these lies, meaning he is being equated with certain things that are not his to begin with.

      In the letter to Ephesus the doctrine of Nicolaitans is mentioned. Nicolatians means clergy who rules over laity. Hierarchy. Contrary to what apostle Peter says we are all kings and priests. Now where do we have this hierarchy today and what is their doctrine and what holy days are they observing with their doctrine?

      I mean these things are obvious to me. I do not wish to argue anymore about this. I stated everything I know and is important. It`s in the book.

      They hate us because we have the truth and discuss it and follow it.

    • Bozz – and I said that they are not Pagan in origin. They are to different celebrations all together. All you have issue with is catholics (which I am not one of) and because they recognize Christmas and Easter you have a problem with it.

      Do you believe that the catholic church was EVER sanctioned by God? It had to have at least begun Godly or else His word would not have reached us in the modern day. It was only through the corruption of men that it got waaaaaay off track with its pomp and circumstance of big hats and gold ornamentation. But I do believe it began honestly.

      Jennifer – Where do they keep the Olympic flame? I now wonder if that flame has been going since they began the modern games or if they snuffed it out during WWII and relit it later. Are you able to find that out?

      I do like to mess with people during Olympic season (which I could care less about) and trudge up all of these obscure facts like the origins of the torch. It usually makes people angry. There’s a lot of other little things with the Games that the Nazi’s began too because they were obsessed with occult gods so this was right up their alley with thr Arian race and all that. I think their Games was the first to have the laurel branches used in modern times for example.

    • Cap’n Eagle-
      The torch is not kept lit in the US at all times. There are (to my knowledge) three cauldrons in the US. One at the entrance to the Olypmic Training Center in Colorado (that is where the USOC headquarters is), one at the entrance to the training center in Chula Vista, CA (that one is lit almost all of the time), and one somewhere in Lake Placid, NY (but not on the training center property). I know they are lit, and kept lit throughout the games every two years. In addition, at least the one in Colorado, is lit upon request (e.g. for photo ops when they do interviews, during the Warrior Games in the spring, etc.).

      I don’t think it is kept lit anywhere else in the world, either. Based on the info below, I believe it is lit before the games in Greece as well (in a very pagan ritual)-

      “For the modern Olympic Games the sacred Flame is lit in Olympia by the head priestess, in the same way as in antiquity, and the ritual includes the athletes’ oath. The Flame is then transmitted to the Torch of the first runner, and the journey of the Torch Relay begins –its magic still touching people today.” (from: )

      Don’t know if that was the info you were after; if not let me know and I’ll try to answer more specifically.

    • Our savior would never want us to celebrate his birthday on Dec 25. Here are a list of birthdays for Dec 25th

      ammuz, the son of Semiramis and Nimrod, the sun god, was born on the Winter Solstice, which on the ancient pagan calendar is December 25th. This day was celebrated as the day Nimrod was reborn as Tammuz. It is also a date common among pagan religions.

      Other gods that share Tammuz birthday, December 25th:

      1. Ra, the Egyptian sun god
      2. Zeus, the Greek sun god

      · In 168 B.C.E., on December 25th, Zeus’ birthday, Antiochus Epiphanes IV set up in the Jerusalem Temple a statue of Zeus, the Greek sun god, upon the altar, defiling it.

      3. Mithras, the Roman sun god

      None of the apostles celebrated our Savior’s birthday. Our Father already gave us the Holy days to celebrate.. why would you not want to keep them??? The are not mixed up with a bunch of lies…Why not obey God instead of man made false traditions? I choose our Father’s celebrations. Don’t you?

    • As everyone knows, the solstice, which marks the first day of winter, falls on Dec. 21 or 22, NOT the 25.

      And this birthday thing is just silly. My birthday falls around a particular calandar moving holiday. If we happened to find out that some pagan god’s birthday falls around the same time does that then make it pagan to celebrate my birthday? It’s ludicrous!

      Furthermore, as has already been established on this blog before, there is NO UNBROKEN CHAIN of evolution from ancient customs to modern ones that PROVES they are pagan (like a Christmas tree.

      And how do you know that the Apostles NEVER celebrated His birthday?

      And I NEVER said NOT to celebrate God’s Holy days too. I thank you to not put words in my mouth. I want to celebrate the Holy Days too but because there are no churches who celebrate these too what am I supposed to do? Just not celebrate ANYTHING?

      God NEVER said to NOT celebrate Christmas or Easter and to say thatto celebrate the Birth and ressurection of Christ is disobeying God is silly.

    • I’ve got 2 more examples for you. 1.) the Rainbow. There are Christians today who say we should shun the rainbow symbol because the gay community has corrupted it. As i always ask, WHY? It is God’s. It’s just another case of Satan corrupting what it God’s.

      2.) The Olympic torch. Unlike Christmas and Easter traditions which has NO UNBROKEN CHAIN from ancient times to today, we can folow the path of the torch and it’s surprisingly new.

      Does anyone know who created the idea of the Olympic Torch? If you said the Greeks or Romans you are WRONG! Nope. The torch was created by the NAZI’S!!! Yep, that’s right. The first Olympic games to ever use the torch was the games the Nazi’s held in Berlin. Goebels came up with the idea of the torch being spread through the European nations by athletes as a forshadowing to their plans of world conquest. So the Olympic torch was created to be a symbol of the Nazi’s invading Europe. FEW PEOPLE KNOW THIS yet we still use the torch today. Does it still mean Nazi? No. And I’m saying the same thing of Christmas and Easter. They are NOT pagan holidays. Even if there are solstice days that fall around those dates that does not make honoring Christ pagan. Nor does a sprinter with the Olympic torch make him a nazi.

    • Cap’n Eagle… Funny you should bring up the olympic torch. I posted yesterdy (or the day before) about working where the torch/flame “resides”. Even working there, I didn’t know the origin; however, I am not surprised as I feel a VERY evil presence every day I drive through the gate.

      I agree that you would be hard pressed to find an athlete OR employee who knows this fact. They think I’m crazy already, so I’ll just sit on this info for now 🙂

      Hope that’s not too off subject… I said all I wanted to say on the Christmas/Easter issue a while back.

      God bless-

    • You gave the example of the Nazi olympic flame. It has nothing to do with God. Or better yet, the rainbow God created. I am talking ORIGIN! God created the rainbow and the heathens use it to mock him. Did God create Easter, or the heathens under the guidance of Ephesians 6:12?

      Who cares if Easter and Christmass is an unbroken tradition, like you claim. Is it a tradition coming from God or the world?

      What about the example of Mary in the catholic church? She is called the queen of heaven, the mother of God. And all know here that this is not the biblical Mary. This is the queen of heaven that Jeremiah spoke of and forbade her worship. The Holy Spirit through Jeremiah said the same thing about decorating a tree and what it represents. Yet, somehow this is different and does not count, because the western world loves it.

      I do not have an issue with catholics, but with mystery, Babylon the great. Get the facts strait. The doctrine of the Nicolaitans is a part of this mystery. If you wanna follow it, fine by me, it`s your choice. God made a clear line between His word and the world. If you wanna spend your time with worldy tradition, go ahead. I won`t talk about this anymore on this blog.

      This topic reminds me of evolution/creation debate. We all know evolution is fake and that Darwin was wrong, yet the world still finds various ways to defend their erroneous claims.

    • Duuuude… That child-catcher fella scared me so bad when I was a kid. My kids think he is funny, so that shows how far kids have come these days in regards to fear.

      I will have to check out that Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang musical. My oldest daughter is in drama at high school, so who knows, she may get to be in that someday???

    • the point is getting missed.. YOu can’t get “Good” Friday and Easter Sunday morning in 3 days and 3 nights. Not to mention Easter is pagan along with the lie of an egg laying rabbit etc… Why continue to celebrate or keep something that is mixed with lies and abomonitaions to God??? Especially When He told us when and how to celebrate. and our Savior our perfect example kept these Holy Days… So do you follow Him or man made celebrations for what ever reason you come with??

    • Kevin – I was around when the new songs were being written for Chitty and they were thinking about asking Marilyn Manson to portray him, no joke! Thank God that didn’t happen!

      I’m sure they have a high school version to play. I love a lot of those old musicals. I’m probably the only straight guy who does. Ha Ha. I just love how you and get out so much story and character information so quickly with a song. Film musicals are great too when you see some of the original actors at play. Robert Preston in The Music Man is a great film performance (Trouble trouble trouble….) or Ron Moody in Oliver (he’s ALWAYS doing some sort of mugging that ALWAYS entertains.) But, yeash, good stuff.

      Kirt – the Rabbit does NOT lay the eggs! He just passes them out to remind people about the Trinity concept. If you ever read one of my books you’d know that. 😀 But regardless, not every Christian even observes the rabbit tradition. (And FYI, the Easter Bunny originates with the Dutch, NOT the Pagans….)

      Independence Day and Thanksgiving are man made holidays. Should we ignore those too?

    • Captain Eagle your book ( your thoughts) is not God’s book or His thoughts. Also, If you celebrate “Good” Friday and Easter as most people do when they celebrate Easter, how do you get three days and three nights? You can’t…If your gonna celebrate and holidays that deal with God and his Son why not take part in the holidays he has ordained that are rehearsals of what our Messiah did and will do. These are Holy days that our Messiah took part in? We would ask our self what would Jesus do? well he kept the commandments and he kept the Feasts of Lord Not Christmas, not Easter, not Halloween. Also so did his disciples, (the disciplined ones) So i ask again do you follow the Messiah or your own thoughts and man made traditions?

    • Captain Eagle you said
      “the Rabbit does NOT lay the eggs! He just passes them out to remind people about the Trinity concept. If you ever read one of my books you’d know that. :D”

      I appreciate your smile at the end so I know we are conversing and trying to get at the truth here..

      If I may add, so we go with your rabbit that passes out eggs. A rabbit has nothing to do with eggs.. they don’t even lay them…more importantly What does that have to do with how our sinless Lamb of God(Yahshua), shed his blood on the cross and rose again after being in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights???

      or show me scripture where our Father or our Messiah talked about a bunny passing out eggs??? and tying it in with his death, burial and resurrection??

      If you study and keep Passover (one of the Lord’s Feast’s) you see that whole story of Passover and the unblemished lamb’s blood on the doorpost is a picture/foreshadowment of our saviors innocent blood shed for our sin..

      Not some fable about bunnies passing out eggs.. and not about “Good” Friday and Easter Sunday morning which you can’t get 3 days and 3 nights…

      So do you choose to celebrate truth or lies? God and our Messiah did not do both. They followed and kept true Holy Days.. Never anything that had lies in it..

    • CaptainEagle, I’m just curious, why did you kill the raccoon? You already had him trapped; couldn’t you have taken him far out into the woods and release him? I hate to see any of God creatures die, unless absolutely necessary. That’s why I enjoy the show Billy the exterminator; he traps Raccoons on every show but always releases them deep into the woods unless they have a disease and not safe to be released

    • Matt – the reason why we had to kill the raccoon is because, like many wild animals, they will find their way back no matter how far away you leave them. This is why the PA Game commission now takes their bears out west because even when they left them in upper NY state they’d still find their way back to southern PA. Once a raccoon finds their way into a house they will keep coming back. After we trapped the first one they were STILL coming back in here the next night and they weren’t even finding any food so I don’t know what gives. Most people poison or drawn animals in a trap but my uncle shot this one. (if it makes you feel any better, I can’t do it. I can’t even chop up a snake or beat a mouse with a sledgehammer. It makes me squeamish.) I also question whether these raccoons were rabid or not because I would hear them in the ceiling all day long. I’m also noticing a smell that makes me wonder if one died in the ceiling or walls. :/ I’m not sure if you’re a city guy but that’s just how it is in the country.

      However, some of the most scary rednecks I know are REALLY into killing animals to the point of torturing them. That creeps me out and many of them are God haters.

    • I’ve lived in the city and the country….not sure how you would know it’s the same raccoon, they all look the same, and they always look like bandits 🙂
      I went to the park not long ago walking my huskies, on a nice warm weekend morning. As we were walking along a path I came across 3 kids, ages about 10 to 12 yrs old. They had with them a crossbow, and were looking at something on the path in the distance, as I got closer I see it’s a huge and I mean huge rattle snake,as big as my arm I tell ya,,,ok not that big,,but it was big, it was all reared up and rattling, obviously it was agitated. You could not walk past it as there are weeds on both sides and it was in the middle of the walking path…I picked up a can to throw at it, but it didn’t budge , just seem to make it more upset…finally I told the kids ,,hey look, there are children around here, we cant take the chance of a child or senor citizen walking by unaware and getting bit by the poisonous snake,,,I told kid we have no choice but to try and scare it with an arrow, I had no idea this kid age of about 12 could even come close to this snake as it was about 25 to 30 yard ahead of us…the kid loaded his crossbow,,,took careful aim, all the while I’m holding onto my dogs who wanted to go after the snake, I’m trying to figure out a away around the snake to get to my vehicle to go home without one of the huskies getting bit…then i hear the kid fire the arrow,,,I could not believe my eyes, and from the looks of the kid neither did he…bulls eye!!!
      I’m not kidding when I tell you the kid hit the rattler dead in the head. So now, the snake is twisting and turning trying to get the arrow out of its head the kid then looks up at me and says, hey, mister, how you suppose I get my arrow back? :0 ummmm… you’re on your own there kid…no idea; you might want to chalk that arrow up as lost.
      I relate this story to say, I actually felt bad for the snake. yes it was a danger and yes it was poisonous and deadly, and had the potential to harm someone on a busy park walk way, but something inside me felt terrible about it all….

    • Speaking of country vs. city living… I left Houston for awhile and moved to Hot Springs Arkansas to take care of wife’s mother who was ill.
      Talk about country. Around the 2nd or 3rd day I was there, I went inside a Wal-Mart, I was just shopping around waiting on my wife, I was looking at the shotguns and rifles, a little kid, he couldn’t have been more than 6 or 7, all in full blown camouflage from head to toe with a Browning shotgun ball cap, says to me, Hey, that’s a putry gun you got right-ch there (the one I was holding). He then added “I could get me a lot of squirrels with that there gun”…I said oh yeah, why would you want to shoot an innocent little squirrel for? He looks up at me, his face all crunch up like he was thinking where is the guy from? He says “why, to eat of course… you mean you never had squirrel before? I said no I haven’t. He looked up at me dead in the eye, paused a moment and said, “Well mister, you don’t know what you missing!!!

      I was like oh dear Lord, how long to I have to stay here 🙂

    • By the way Captain Eagle, I have heard the raccoons running between the ceiling and bedroom and it is unnerving to say the least, I expect it to fall through in the middle of the night, I really did, what’s worse is, while staying at this haunted house of horrors in Ark, I had to deal with a ghost, raccoons and playing peek-a-boo with more mice than I could count. Over time I actually felt rather sympathetic to a black one that would greet me in the morning. I seriously can’t go back to that house; it’s like the Bates Motel for me. One morning, around 4 AM I heard footsteps, we were suppose to be the only ones there. We were down in basement where they have an extra bedroom setup. I woke up my wife and told her, your dad must be home, we then both heard very heavy footsteps dragging across the floor upstairs, I mean,,thud,,thud,,thud,,, like a heavy set man walking,,, we both get up to go see who it is as he was not suppose to be back till the next day, we went up stairs and nothing was there…no one home, freaked us both out big time…Doing some research on the home I found out it use to be home that housed orphans back to the 1860’s A family member that lives in the house later told me “oh I don’t ever go down into the basement, I saw a ghost down there’ ahhhhh thanks a lot, you won’t go down there but have no problem putting me down there to sleep with the raccoon , mice and ghost… I think that’s a need to know type deal. Not something anyone should keep to themselves. Where is that Benny Hinn Holy Water when I need it?

    • You are missing out Matt,Tree Squirrel stew is the best,Rattlesnake is great bbq’ed too. guess I’m just a ol redneck lol

  11. Ok, I wasn’t going to post this but I thought what the heck, what’s the worst that someone could say and at least I got it off my chest. I usually don’t remember my dreams and I don’t put much stock in them to begin with but last night was just plain weird. I had two dreams last night and both had Mr Marzulli in them (by the way I am a happily married heterosexual). In one of the dreams LA was scheduled to speak at a church that consisted of both Christians and Jews and at the last second he was canceled and they wouldn’t let him speak. The second dream was even goofier in that he and I met at a store we were both shopping at and he was about 7 feet tall and he asked me why he was cancelled. Anyways, let the ok whatever comments begin, I just had to share because I never remember these things and these two I did.

    • Never hurts to share, thanks for your courage in doing so. And there may be an important link to some actual event, maybe one that Dr. (blast! i can’t stop) Marzulli will know about. Never know.

  12. “Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
    Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
    where there is injury, pardon;
    where there is doubt, faith;
    where there is despair, hope;
    where there is darkness, light;
    and where there is sadness, joy.
    O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
    to be understood as to understand;
    to be loved as to love.
    For it is in giving that we receive;
    it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
    and it is dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen”
    Prayer to St Francis of Assisi

    • Hi Debbie K, the bottom says prayer TO St.Francis of Assissi. Shouldn’t that say prayer OF St.Francis to the Lord, by St.Francis?. We shouldn’t be offering up any prayers to any persons other than Jesus.

    • Although the prayer is usually given as to St. Francis, it is of course TO the Lord, rightfully perhaps it is of or by St. Francis, the message is what I’m after. Thanks for pointing out the discrepancy Laura.

  13. This is for Matt, brought forward from a mis-communication we had a few blogs ago.

    Yes, I forgive you Matt, although I did not receive your comments as “joking” but rather as “mocking.”
    Yes, I am a very serious person. I do not joke much unless I really know someone very well as my jokes can be sarcastic. Yes, I am a joyful person, but not a funny, Ha-ha, person.
    Like I said, when I came on the blog, which was not that long ago, I had been satisfied to just read it and glean interesting posts from it, but then I decided to “chime in.” I’m not on the blog to argue, to gossip, to join into chatter, or to stir up or enter into strife, but to share information, testimonies, things about Jesus that exhort and are uplifting. I look at the blog as an opportunity to exchange information and ideas concerning the gospel and events of end-times. Maybe my posts come off as being cryptic at times, but that is just how my mind is wired.

    The Apostle Paul tells us in Ephesians 5, that we are to be followers of God as dear children, that we are to walk in love, as Christ has loved us, and has given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour.
    He goes on to list the types of behaviors that we should avoid entering into as saints, among which are foolish talking and jesting…but rather we should be using our God given ability to communicate by the giving of thanks.

    My comment to you about being “stuck on stupid,” was deliberate and meant to direct your attention to the fact that sometimes what one thinks is funny is not funny at all. Sometimes when we think we are laughing with someone, we are really laughing at them, because they are not laughing.

    • Your words hurt me. I was upset for quite awhile because I couldn’t begin to imagine what I’d written that so angered you. I was the one who first welcomed you onto this blog. I was the one who first responded to you when you challenged Randy about the abortion issue:

      “Deceived in the past
      Forgiven in the present
      Welcomed here because we all have sinned and come short of the glory of God”

      Do you remember?

      This is what you put on my thread yesterday without explanation:

      Sundown Lady said
      March 18, 2011 at 9:04 pm
      Hard to believe people actually choose to stay stuck on stupid.

      Now I understand that you were punishing Matt…the envenomed shotgun approach. When I told you you were being unkind, you said you were joking. Now I know that was a lie.

      Your comment wasn’t some sort of teaching tool; it was a weapon meant to wound.

      Matt made an error in judgment, but his intention was not to hurt you. I know you don’t understand this, but it was an overture of friendship. I believe I can guarantee you that it won’t happen again.

    • It is not worth the effort to attempt to respond to your accusations as it with you it will be a lose/lose situation.

      Yup, good old Rose from Kentucky…first word and final authority…that I can laugh about.

      You win…exhale a big sigh of relief…I’m off the blog…but, you lose, because you’re drinking old wine and you’re stuck in an old wineskin…law mingled with grace…

      I guess I wasn’t really that welcome after all. My sin was too egregious to pass into your heavenly realm.

    • You are a bully–nothing Christ like about you. You major in magnifying sin rather than righteousness.

      So take your guns and your idodine pills and your stored food and water and your dependency on your own ability to save youself…and I’ll take Jesus…that’s all that is needed.

      Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    • Wow Sundown that was so uncalled for. Disagreement is one thing but when someone goes on such a attack against a Christian sister I really got to wonder what Spirit is
      involved. I will be praying.

    • Ya know Sundown Lady, you sound extremely bitter. Not sure what could have brought that spirit into your life. I will pray for you despite the fact you called me stupid on this blog. I understand it wasn’t you who actually did that, it was what controls you.
      I pray whatever spirit that advises you to lash out at others is bind in the name of Jesus and you are set free from the bondage you are in

    • SundownLady, your are a serious person, duly noted. I will not comment on your post anymore, whether it is with a joke or serious comment. I’m a happy go lucky person and feel laughter is good for the soul; I don’t have a mean, sarcastic bone in my body, unfortunately over the net you can’t always tell where someone is coming from. I was raised in a very happy, joy filled home with other brothers and sisters; we teased each other quite a bit but always with love. I feel it is good to be able to loosen up and laugh at yourself once in awhile. That said, we are very different people, I like humor, you don’t care for it. I grew up in a household full of laughter because that’s all we had… and I thank God we had that.
      I honestly didn’t know the “stuck on stupid,” comment was for me. I thought it was a about the article in the link sooooo, if that’s what you were trying to accomplish , you missed your mark a bit… However, .now I see it was intended for me and you know what? I’m cool with that…I have been called worse, maybe not by a fellow sister in Christ, but have been called similar names from lost people in the word that don’t know Christ who are trying to be hurtful. I’m pretty thick skinned, and comments about me on a blog from someone I don’t know wont effect my self esteem all that much…I admit, I had a rough day after I read that the comment was meant for me,, was extremely tough to get out of bed this morning but I forced myself,,,(j/k) ……I’m fine with your insult, does not faze me in the slightest…last thing I want to do in blow this out of proportion into some kind of soap opera. Not a big deal at all….lets forgets it ever happened.
      Rose from Kentucky is correct it will not happen again.
      Proverbs 23:9

      I liked your scripture you posted, here are a few for you as well…enjoy.

      A joyful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones Proverbs 17:22

      He will yet fill your mouth with laughter, and your lips with shouting. Job 8:21

      A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; Ecclesiastes 3:4

      He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. Psalm 2:4

      A glad heart makes a cheerful face, but by sorrow of heart the spirit is crushed Proverbs 15:13

      And Sarah said, “God has made laughter for me; everyone who hears will laugh over me.” Genesis 21:6

    • Honestly SundownLady, if I knew your were that sensitive to comments made to you, I would have refrained. Again, I’m sorry you took it wrong I assure you it was not intended the way you took it as as your comment to me was. Would have avoided this fiasco if you simply asked me what I meant instead of attacking with insults. You would have then understood it was nothing more than a misunderstanding.

    • Yes, Matt, I appreciate your willingness to “stand down.” It proves a teachable spirit. Thank you for your kind words.

    • Only for you Sundown Lady. Others seem to handle it fine. Im not exactly sure what you taught me, however you did show me how sensitive you are and I can appreciate that.

  14. Huge prayer request, aka wrestlemania 6:12

    I know y’all are praying for japan, but I have something specific….pray that the head principality and all his underlings in the japan area are bound, so that (and that) the Gospel will be spread and accepted in all of Japan.

    I think satan doesn’t want that, because (not to boast) that’s what I prayed last night, and I think I was attacked spiritually. I say think, because I called to Jesus right away, and I felt hands (ala sleep paralysis) but it was so weak I really almost wonder if it happened.

    Please join me…

  15. Was Japan’s Disaster a Punishment for Greed?

    “The Governor of Tokyo, Shintaro Ishihara, proclaimed the damage caused to Japan by last week’s tsunami and earthquake “tembatsu,” or divine punishment, for Japanese egotism and greed”

    “At least one reporter has tracked down the semantic range of “tembatsu,” which more or less translates as “divine or heavenly discipline.” The phrase comes out of Japanese Buddhism and was very common in the years leading up to the Second World War. It’s not a dissimilar concept to the American idea of “manifest destiny,” of God leading the United States on to greatness and disciplining us when we stray from the right path”

    “Can this sort of thinking be reconciled with Christian theology? In short, no.”

    “God’s wrath against sin is certainly real. But nowhere in the New Testament is any one earthly nation singled out for blessing, or for punishment. So the tsunami can certainly not be construed as a particular punishment for one nation’s particular sins. While Jesus didn’t mention much about curses, he was adamant that God blesses the peoples of the earth indiscriminantly (Matthew 5:43-45). He loves even those who hate him. He even went so far as to atone for the eternal consequences of all the evil we perpetrate on earth in His Son, on the cross. Even God’s wrath against Hitler was atoned for on Good Friday, although without trust in Christ Hitler would not have received the benefits of that atonement”

    “But what about natural disasters, illnesses, and other suffering?”

    • Did you see that CNN report with Marting Vasheer (Sp?) where he asked some religious figure about it and both questions were asked in a way to attack the God of the Hebrews? I forgot to mention it but this reminded me. This was Thursday or Friday.

    • No I missed that one. Isnt Marting Vasheer on CNN and MSNBC? I have banned both those channels from my home ,I have them blocked on the remote. It’s bad enough I have to put up with Geraldo Rivera on the other channel, I just couldn’t take adding Marting Vasheer to the mix.

    • Hi Matt,

      There are many theories about what the BEK are: demonic entities, nephillim, hybrids. More research is needed. There maybe teens also wearing black contact lens. There are paranormal aspects to some of the cases.

    • From what I understand they try to get you to invite them inside, they can’t enter your house with out being asked in.They will do or say anything it takes to get you to do that.

    • There is a saying that “the eye is the window of the soul”, It may be based on what Jesus said:


      [22] The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
      [23] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

    • I have also been looking into this for awhile – very interesting phenomenon. I believe this may be some of the rare examples of modern nephilim or hybrids – either that or fallen angels masquerading as children.

      Gordy, I hadn’t put that scripture together with it yet. Thank you for bringing this forward.

  16. When was Jesus born?

    Jesus Christ was born on the 15th day of the month of Tishri, on the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles, which corresponds to the September – October timeframe of our present calendar!

    John B

    • Thanks for the info John B, I did not know that. Too bad we can’t celebrate Christ birth in October; I would really like to see Halloween done away with.

      ya know back on that subject, seems to me if we had the exact month of Christ’s birth, some people would still not be satisfied unless it was down to the exact day. They would say, yes you have the right month, but it is not the right day. To me this is all semantics; do we really believe Jesus cares when we celebrate his birthday?
      I mean it is interesting to know the true month though , all know it wasn’t December.

    • Does it matter when we celebrate Christ’s birth? No, at least not as much as the spiritual meaning of the feast! There are good arguments to be made for various dates; however, despite the fact that a December birth seems to have fallen into disrepute nowadays in popular discourse, there are some good reasons to believe it. Luke records Zechariah offering incense in the Temple at the time of John the Baptist’s conception. Many scholars ancient and modern think this happened around Yom Kippur. This would be fitting, as the Day of Atonement was a time of national repentance and John the Baptist’s ministry was one of bringing Israel to repentance. The traditional date for the birth if John the Forerunner is June 24. His conception is celebrated 9 months plus one day earlier, September 23, the autumnal equinox, around the time of the observance of the Jewish High Holy Days. According to Luke, around six months later, Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary. This fits with the traditional date of the Annunciation, March 25, the spring equinox. The Annunciation was celebrated on March 25 before Christmas was celebrated on December 25, but anyhow add exactly nine months to December 25 and you get March 25. The Church appears to have based the date if Christmas off of the already established March 25 Annunciation date. There was also a Jewish tradition that beginnings and endings, births and deaths, occurred on the same day. The Church seems to have modified this tradition from births and deaths to conceptions and deaths; hence, Jesus died on the eve of Passover, March 25, so it was thought he was also conceived at that time. The main Eastern Orthodox hymn for Annunciation says, “Today is the beginning of our salvation”. The astronomical events associated with the traditional birth dates of John and Jesus also seem to fit with John’s statement that He must increase, I must decrease. John was perhaps born when the days become shorter, Jesus when the days begin to lengthen. It is also significant that if Jesus was born December 25th, that would correspond to the Feast of the Dedication (Hanukkah) of the Temple, the wintertime ‘Feast of Lights’. Jesus, we know, is the Light of the world; He also spoke of His Body as the true Temple. The Eastern Orthodox hymn for Nativity mentions that “those who worshipped the stars were taught by a star to worship Thee the Sun of Righteousness”. (BTW, the pagan celebration of “Sol Invictus” on December 25 actually post dates the Christian celebration of the Nativity of Christ on this day.)

      John’s Gospel, the only one as far as I can remember that mentions Hanukkah, does not contain a Nativity narrative. It does place a lot of emphasis on the Logos as the Light of the world. Perhaps then the prologue of John’s Gospel ties in to a winter nativity, explaining the spiritual/theological significance of the Savior’s birth.

      In any case, it’s that spiritual meaning that seems most important to me.

      Matthew 4:16 (KJV)
      The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

      Glory to God!

  17. Strict Christian Megadeth singer now says ‘black magic ruined my life’

    Megadeth rocker Dave Mustaine refuses to play heavy rock anthem The Conjuring live – because the track is laden with black magic imagery and occult spells.

    The singer became fascinated in witchcraft as a teen and he’s convinced spells he cast have come back to haunt him.

    Now a strict Christian, he’s keen to distance himself from his dark past – and refuses to play his song “The Conjuring” from 1986 album Peace Sells… but Who’s Buying on tour – because the lyrics about black magic still affect him.

    He tells Total Guitar magazine, “Performance wise, The Conjuring is one of the heaviest songs on the record, but unfortunately it’s got black magic in it and I promised that I wouldn’t play it any more, because there’s a lot of instructions for hexes in that song.”

    “Although it seems kinda corny, anybody who’s a Wiccan (witch) or a warlock or anything like that will know that all of that stuff is instrumental.

    “When I got into black magic I put a couple of spells on people when I was a teenager and it haunted me forever, and I’ve had so much torment. People say, ‘(expletive), Dave never gets a break, he’s had such a hard life,’ and I just think, ‘No, Dave didn’t – he got into black magic and it ruined his life.’

    “Fortunately for me, with all the work and the love of my friends, and not giving up with my guitar playing, I got over it. So I look back now and I think, ‘Hmm, I don’t wanna play ‘The Conjuring’.”

    Wow, I never knew this guy turned his life over to Christ.

    • I think we will all be very pleasantly blown away by the people we see in heaven – and chillingly surprised by those we don’t.

    • WOW! I was astonished to read this post, and here’s why:

      When I was a kid, I had the “Peace Sells” album on cassette. I listened to it over and over because I thought the guitar riffs sounded so cool; until one night I had a terrible experience that I now know to associate with the sleep paralysis phenomenon. I only knew then that it was the most terrifying experience I had ever had, and thought it a very strange nightmare of some kind.

      One night I fell asleep on a sofa I had in my bedroom. All of the sudden, I was above my body looking down. I was shocked and horrified, and then quickly back in my body but unable to move! I tried to scream but nothing came out. My body felt like a sack of concrete. I was, with all my strength, able to flip myself into the floor and struggle to crawl into my mother’s room for help. As I wriggled, I heard a dreadful sound in my head. It was like the sound of a tape rewinding faster and faster. Then a horrid little voice (similar to Alvin of the Chipmunks) reveled, “Immmm innnn CONTROLLLLL!!!!!”. With this, I woke AGAIN with a gasp on the sofa once more. I was tingling all over and in a state of utter terror and disorientation.
      It scared me so bad that I took the cassette tape and broke it to pieces and threw it away. I had never before or since had a nightmare that involved my actual surroundings and real state like that!
      Years later, I looked back on that experience and felt kind of silly. I concluded that “Peace Sells” was about politics and such. When I read your post, I realized it all again and that there actually WAS a curse or spell attached to it!

  18. Matt,
    You asked me about our akita yesterday – she was a great dog. She weighed 120 lbs., but she could climb! We named her Abbie, but ended up calling her Houdini because she could get out of any fence, yard or chain. She was a handful.
    She also was more of a one-man dog. She learned to integrate with our family, but we had a few hairy moments in which she challenged my authority. I also had to be careful with her around guests and strangers; once she “met” someone, she was fine and remembered them, sometimes with months in between visits. But, she was very aggressive toward people she did not know. She didn’t bark. She would just stare at someone – it was very intimidating.
    I got her before my husband went overseas for about 16 months and I still had young children in the house. I could go to sleep at night and not worry about my security – she was pitch black, quiet, fast and built like a locomotive.
    She also was sweet, liked pancakes, and had a tendency to snore. We all cried like babies when we had to put her to sleep.

  19. She sounded wonderful. That’s the hard part about pet ownership, is letting them go when its time.
    Have you ever considered getting another one? Those arctic breeds like my huskies are very independent, so I understand about the challenge of authority. Mine went through all kinds of training to be therapy dogs, where we take them to children’s hospitals and rest homes for visits, with all that training and they still want to push me as far as they can at times…its like living with a constant 3 yr old that never ages. My huskies were rescue dogs, when I’m at the park sometimes people ask me why I have huskies in Texas, I tell them well, they were on the street abandoned and in some cases abused , now they have a good, happy home and are loved. Can’t beat that. Shelters are full of huskies because people get them because of movie they may have watch with them in it, or their kids like them, trouble is, they are stubborn and independent and not easily trained, people abandon them or tie them up to be forgotten in back yard till they run away.
    Huskies are not too good like your Akita was on the security though, they seem to like everyone, especially kids. Might as well have a sign on my door that says, come on in
    Get this, my mailman stops over to see my dogs,,, this is not a joke,, im serious, The mailman actually comes by and wants to see the dogs…now tell me what dog in their right mind likes a mailman? I give them a hard time about that 🙂

    • I don’t think we’ll get another akita. She really was miserable in this climate. I could always tell what season it was – in the winter my cats were on the vent, and in the summer Abbie was. We had to clean out the vents and viaducts twice a year because of all the fur.
      We have two pups now that came from the shelter. They aren’t as exotic or as formidable as the akita, but they are more suitable to us. They are German sheppard/Australian sheppard/lab mixes. One looks like the German sheppard and the other the lab, although the female lab can jump and twist in mid-air like an Olympic gymnast. She runs circles around her brother – that must be the Aussie sheppard.
      They both stay in the yard, which is a big plus. Our acre back yard is fenced, but we couldn’t keep Abbie in it. She would get out and intimidate the neighbors – although she was never aggressive toward them. She just looked the part. I became very well aquainted with the local animal control officer, and he isn’t a pleasant man.
      So, unless I move to the Rockies and live in a cabin, no more akitas. She did serve us well, though, and I still miss her.
      I love the fact that the mailman comes to visit your dogs… 😀 That’s classic.

      BTW, I have a 7lb. calico that grew up with Abbie, and because of that learned that she can master ANY dog in her yard. She actually chases dogs! So, with your mailman-friendly Huskies and my dog-chasing cat, we proof ourselves to be a peculiar people once again!

    • We also picked up a small amount of radiation on one of the cats last night. It was less than one millirad – barely more than the ambiant amount – but more than was there before. The radiation cloud must have passed over Kentucky, but because it didn’t rain it stayed at the high altitudes. It’s still a little creepy, though. Radioactive cats… they’re weird enough at times already.

    • Yes… on little cat feet leaving glowing prints behind them… tails sailing high in the sky…

    • Rose from KY. This may be a stupid question (actually, I’m full of them, but try to restrain myself 🙂 )- How do you test a cat for radiation?

      I live in the CO mountains at almost 9,000 feet. Sometimes at night, I feel like I could reach out and pluck a star from the sky; it seems so close.

      Anyway- I wonder how much of the rad. sprinkled on my little neck of the woods which would include my two dogs a blue heeler and a chi-wowzer 😦

    • That is not a stupid question! I’m welcome to most any you want to ask. My husband and I invested in a geiger counter several years ago – it was part of our “prep”. We also purchased potassium iodide at that time. My relatives and friends thought we were crazy (and that may be true), but I’m glad we did it.
      We’ve been taking baseline measurements since the explosion of the plant in Japan.
      If you are worried, bathe your animals in a bath of baking soda. Baking soda is one of the best antidotes to heavy metal poisoning on the planet. It binds with the elements, both externally and in the liver, and carries them away. I would check with a vet about giving animals baking soda internally, though. I’m not sure of the dosage. At this point, if you suspect poisoning, a bath would probably be sufficient.
      Bentonite clay and charcoal taken internally does the same thing, and if you can get it down them, it won’t hurt the animals. Just make sure they drink lots of water (the clay kind of… ummm… locks them up if you know what I mean).
      The very same antidote works for people, too.
      I grew up near Golden; are you anywhere near that area?

    • Thanks for all that info Rose. I’m still trying to figure out what else we need re: being prepared. We have the food, H2O, “protection”, and plans in place. But I, like others I’ve seen on this blog, have thyroid disease (among a plethora of other health issues)- I have been trying to figure out how I could stock up on medications that I take daily. I have gotten my Dr. (I thank God he is a Christian and is open to discussing options based on my beliefs with me) to write all of my prescriptions for 3-month supplies. Beyond that, I don’t know that there would be much I could do.

      I’m about two hours from Golden- We live on the back-side of Pikes Peak. I do know Golden well, though, as we moved from Wheat Ridge about 15 years ago. My mother-in-law still lives in Arvada, so we get up there every now and then.

    • I’m actually from Wheat Ridge! I graduated from W.R. High.
      Would iodine with selenium supplements and animal thyroid be helpful? I don’t have thyroid disease, but mine is sluggish, so I’ve taken these for several years and they’ve helped. It may not be as strong as you need, but it’s better than nothing; and, it’s non-prescription. You can buy and store as many as you can afford.

      ‘Hope this helps.

    • I’m actually from Wheat Ridge! I graduated from W.R. High.
      Would iodine with selenium supplements and animal thyroid be helpful? I don’t have thyroid disease, but mine is sluggish, so I’ve taken these for several years and they’ve helped. It may not be as strong as you need, but it’s better than nothing; and, it’s non-prescription. You can buy and store as many as you can afford.

      ‘Hope this helps.

    • Rose- Thanks for that info too 🙂 You’re probably right that it wouldn’t be the strength I take now, but, hey, when push comes to shove, I would certainly be happier with it than with nothing.

      Also- just wanted you to know, I appreciate all of your posts. It is none of my business either, but the exchange between you, Matt, and SundownLady was really heartbreaking to me. I read back several days worth of posts and really can’t understand why SL became so upset. I vaguely remember when she first posted, but couldn’t find it. Anyway, I saw nothing offensive from you or Matt. I have an off sense of humor sometimes, but even viewing through that lense, I don’t get it. Anyway, I’m sorry you all were hurt- I hate seeing/feeling others’ pain. May God bless you all heal any wounds. Hope I didn’t overstep- I mean only to lend support to all.

    • It saddens me, too. I wish it weren’t so public, but that’s the nature of a blog.

      Thank you for your kindness. Please pray for Sundown.

  20. don’t know about anyone else, but i literally have goosebumps on my arms from reading those quotes from bush dated march 19, 2003 and then obama saying similar wording on march 19, 2011. that is just a wee bit eerie, nice find mr. marzulli!

    Back in early ’80’s when I was visiting family and friends in the piney woods of NE Texas, I had my first opportunity to eat squirrel meat. It’s dark and stringy, kinda like a chuck pot roast cut. Not bad. But I wouldn’t wanna a steady diet of it. I give it three nuts outta five;^p

    • Are you nuts? I would never eat a squirrel. I ate burro once at a ranch party I went to in the 70’s best piece of *ss I ever had (excuse the pun).

      Has anyone seen anymore glowing Sylvesters?

    • In A Moment, Rose at post #25 above said: “We also picked up a small amount of radiation on one of the cats last night”.
      Below that I asked her: “Rose, do Radioactive do the Neutron Dance?” I meant to say Radioactive kitties.

      Remember Sylvester the cat? I was making a joke as to glowing kitties (Sylvester=kitty) if you do not know who Sylvester was then ask tweety bird.. (see below)

    • No, no glowing Sylvesters yet. One did just cough up a pretty impressive hair ball… but that’s normal.
      Thanks for the cartoon! It’s been awhile since I’ve watched the real Sylvester.

  22. I’ve read stuff like this before. Everything from the stated pagan origins of the datesand the customs is not something sll agree on. That is a big reason why I don’t take it as gospel that all symbols sad to be pagan are. It’s just like symbols that the Bible uses and sinners use. We believe that he Bible is truthful and go with that as beingthe original use but when it’s something outside the Bible and it’s not in agreement where do you do?

    If it can’t be traced all the way back to ancient times thn it’s not the same thing. The festivals of old involved murdr and slaughter, do we see that today? They are not the same thing at all.

  23. Now I have heard it all…..Pole Dancing for Jesus

    Pole dancing as a workout is nothing new. Over the past few years, independent studios have popped up all over the country, but there is a very unique type of pole dancing class here in our area.

    It’s called Pole Fitness for Jesus.

    You’re probably thinking: “How on Earth can you mix pole dancing with Jesus?” You can definitely mix the two.

    “I was actually a dancer for 3 years, probably 7 years ago or so. I did it for a while, it’s not something I felt very rewarded with, but to each his own and it was just something I decided I didn’t want to do anymore so I decided to take the part that I liked about that and bring it here but it’s so much fitness, I don’t teach women to be strippers,” said owner/instructor of Best Shape of Your Life Crystal Deans.

    Every 2md Sunday of the month, Crystal Deans invites female church-goers into her pole dancing studio.

    “On Sundays, we do pole fitness for Jesus. We do the upbeat contemporary Christian music because people have to bring their church program to get into the class, so we basically are just continuing the whole worship thing here.”

    Don’t let the name of the class fool you though. There’s no prayer beforehand and there’s no crosses hanging in her studio,

    “Just to get past the whole stigma of the whole thing, I’m very Christian. I go to church every Sunday and I pray. I talk to God things like that I think there’s nothing wrong with what I do. I teach women to feel good about them, to feel empowered and we get in really good shape. God is the only person that judges so anybody who wants to judge me, feel free to but I’m good with God, so that’s what’s important to me and I really don’t care what people think.”

    And neither does newcomer, Tiffany Booth.

    “I think it’s a fabulous thing. I was raised around religion. My parents were very religious and it’s a great way you get the stigma off. It’s not just dancing on a pole. You have music and you have girl’s together working out and it’s a different kind of workout. There’s tons of different kinds of workouts, this just happens to be one,” said Tiffany.

    “I mean it does the legs. That’s why we wear the shoes. The shoes are good for the legs and the glutes, but it’s a lot of upper body and a lot of core,” said Crystal.

    I have to wonder, if you took a poll how many men vs. women would support this kind of thing at their church what the outcome would be.

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