A post to address an ongoing issue!

Why I believe there are Nephilim in the Modern Era


L. A. Marzulli

I am writing this paper to state what I believe and why, and to specifically counter arguments from those who are saying that the Nephilim – the by-product of fallen angels and the women of earth – did not occur again after the flood.

I have written five books on the Nephilim and in the research for those tomes there were many reference books that I searched for answers, in regard to what happened in Genesis 6. I explored the works of G. H. Pember, Dr. I. D. E. Thomas, Clarence Larkin, Barnhouse, De Haan, Josephus, Dr. Chuck Missler, and others who hold to the firm belief that the events of Genesis 6 happened then, and later on, as we see in Numbers 13.   These authors also point to Matthew 24, which states that it will be like the days of Noah when the son of man returns and they believe, as I do, that we will see a last incursion of the fallen angels resulting in what I would call modern Nephilim. Dr. I. D. E. Thomas refers to this as the Omega Conspiracy.

We are warned in 2nd Thessalonians, that Satan will come with all signs and lying wonders. How and why can we somehow limit him by saying, that he won’t be able to create modern Nephilim? Where does it state in the scripture a list of things that Satan will not be able to do? It doesn’t exist, except in the Book of Job, which is unique as it pertains to one man and one time period.

In my opinion Satan is building an army. He will be cast from the second heaven to earth and scripture tells us: woe to the inhabitants of earth because the devil has come down to you and he knows his time is short! This is not some allegory or metaphor, it is a real event and it is a game changer!

With this hybrid army Satan is trying to recreate what he had just before the flood with the exception that he will seat his offspring, the Antichrist, in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, to be worshipped as God. This will bring about the fulfillment of the “seed of the serpent.” This is his ultimate endgame and it has been thousands of years in the making.

We are told the Mystery of Iniquity is working and will continue to work until he that restrains it is taken out of the way. The mystery of Iniquity can be translated as secret of lawlessness. In other words there is a complete disregard for the laws of God, thus the word law-less-ness is used. It would appear that Satan has a free reign to do what he pleases within the heavenly protocols and nowhere is there an exclusion of creating Nephilim hybrids.

By saying that there are no Nephilim and that somehow Satan will not resort to his old tactics is a dangerous, truncated position for anyone to take as it opens him or her to what I believe is the coming great deception.

The X-opolitic crowd, and New Agers, are embracing the idea that ET created all life on this planet, that they genetically manipulated us, started the worlds religions and our ancestors worshipped them as gods. Now, at this critical juncture in human history they are back to usher us into a time of peace, knowledge, and prosperity. They are ready to embrace the lie. They speak of hybrids and implants, why is it that this information is disregarded by those who tell us there can be no modern Nephilim? The New Agers and X-opolitic crowd, have no Nephilim dog in the hunt as it were. The breeding program that they refer to has all the hallmarks of what happened in Genesis 6. How can we ignore this?

In my opinion world events are rushing toward the time that the Bible speaks about more than any other, the time of Jacobs Trouble. The signs are here and they are becoming more numerous and with greater frequency as time ticks on toward the day when we will see the supernatural manifest in ways that we have never seen before.

In closing, people are entitled to believe what they want to. However, when those who disagree with my position and that of other researchers, begin to call us heretics, they have crossed the line.

In the end, if “they” show up and hybrids are revealed, it will become self-evident. To me these naysayer’s protest too much and it begs the question why now, with all that is going on. They are creating a distraction and obfuscating what may be the ultimate game changer in human history, that of the reappearance of the Nephilim…. It makes me wonder whose side they are really on.


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214 thoughts on “A post to address an ongoing issue!

  1. Excellent defense of your position Brother Lynn.

    It is in large part because of your Nephilim Trilogy that I was personally helped in putting pieces of the puzzle together that I had been trying to surrender my mind to for years.

    I can remember watching the specific episodes of X-Files when their focus was on exactly what your beliefs are and wanted to touch on except they would never go that extra foot and tie the knot for the viewer who is truly discerning. I felt as though someone wanted to send a message that these “Aliens” and “Shape shifters” along with “Super Soldiers” has a far more sinister back story that anyone in the every day world would have the slightest hope of grasping as true.

    I thank God Almighty that you are willing to continue day after day to stick your neck out and put your reputation on the line to stand up for Truth. Thank you for being that great Watchman with the spotlight helping uncover for the average Joe things he would have never found on his own.


    I am so sorry about your dad. My own suffered from that horrendous disease and died right after his 63rd birthday. It came on him when he was about 59 and hit hard and fast. It got to where I could not see him because of how bad the care for him was and my mom would tell me how full of absolute rage he would get and run through the halls yelling. This was all due to the meds that put him on. After hearing that, I couldn’t go see him anymore until he was in the hospital dying of pneumonia. I went in to see him and told him who I was, thinking he was asleep and when I did he reached out his hand to me and cried out. Inside, he knew it was me…but there wasn’t a thing he could do about it. Mercifully, the Lord took him Home 4 days later. My prayers are with you and your family.

    May God lead you and your ministry by the power of His Righteous right hand. Peace be with you my Brother.

    In Christ,

    Jeff D

    • Dear brother Jeff D, I want to thank you so much for your post last night. You always have a perspective that is kind and full of grace. LA is posting about nephilim living among us, and from all the vids I have been looking at, and wondering what is all this? Why do people have repty eyes and why are we seeing strange things. Maybe it’s because I am naive and cannot believe people would doctor things. I have been struggling with these things for quite some time and realize it may not be what I thought. Gordy posted an excellent video last night about the artist and her experiences with these masters of deception, and quite thoroughly explains in her world view the ET gospel. It shows hybrids and even ET’s I’ve never heard of. She makes it sound so wonderful and can see why people will be decieved. Blessings to you!

    • That vid is so creepy…even the background music and the narrator’s voice are tantalizingly hypnotic. Can you imagine how easy it would be to indoctrinate children by showing that vid to classrooms of elementary and preschoolers? Makes you want to get sick.

    • Oh, I missed the dialogue! The minute the music came on my spiritual hairs ( if you could call it that) stood on end & I immediately turned off the music. But I did see all of the pictures which were very telling.

    • Pink Floyd? And to think I used to listen to them! Was there a Pink Floyd movie called “Off the wall”? I remember watching it because it was the cool thing to do @ the time but it was quite disturbing.

      (Just type in “Pink Floyd” in search box.)

    • The narrator seems to be portraying the whole thing very provacatively, perhaps in hopes that many people will be drawn to invite these hybrids or ET’s to appear to them in real time or in their dreams. Wow! Talk about mind control techniques…
      I always told my children, don’t be fooled, if you are looking for the devil, he will, of a certainty, find you.

    • If I didn’t know what I know today, I could surely be taken in by that video. It is so well done and she states all of it as though it is fact. How scarey!

    • Laura, I sincerely apologize if I gave you the impression I thought you naive on this topic. That is not the case at all.

      I was trying to convey a sence of urgency in the Body of Christ to be faithful in the area of discernment as to keep the enemy of our souls from going on a witch hunt and wasting valuable time looking for evil wherever we can find it, off on tangent, hope the Lord won’t mind it. We’re taking a break from all our Gospel labor; on a crusade but we forget our Savior. (my regards to Petra)

      I do believe their hybrids are ready to be released on this unbelievingly blind world. It is my prayer as it is Brother Lynn’s that when these events begin to occor, it will be self evident and the Bride of Christ will be preprared for what is about to unfold.

      In Christ,
      Jeff D

    • Late Night Lisa , thanks for that link I enjoyed it immensely, I didn’t know about some of the artist on there openly worship Satan, biggest surprise for me was Tori Amos, whose father is a Pastor.
      The guitarist from Korn (another band that was on the list with connections to Satan), Brian Welch, is now a born again Christian. I posted his testimony below. I am amazed at his story. He had everything Satan could offer, Drugs, Fame, Money. Sex, he even says as much in the video below, however, despite all that he was miserable and wanted to commit suicide. When I see someone like him who had it all in earthly terms, and seems to be beyond reach, then God snatches him up and saves him from a early grave, that to me my friends is a miracle in itself. If you want supernatural, there it is right there. He quit the band, millions of dollars plus all the fame to follow Jesus…I’m still amazed at his story. I first saw him tell his story on 700 club, and I was shocked…most of these rock stars burn out and fade away, some can barley speak, from a life time of abuse like Ozzy Osbourne . Others die an early death as Satan his done using them and takes them…such as Bon Scott from AC DC who choked on his own vomit only days after recording Highway to Hell with the lyrics “Hey Satan, paid my dues I’m on my way to the promised land I’m on the highway to hell”

      He sure was, Satan took him up on his offer.

      Brian ‘Head” Welch Guitarist from the Heavy Metal Band Korn now a born again Christian. (by the way, his ex-band memebers no longer have a lot of love for him, but thats to be expected since thy still live in darkness and sin)


  2. I remember my mom, God rest her soul and body, talking to me about scripture as a young person and mentioning the giants. She always left the giant issue hang on her words as a question. She was a youth teacher for years and with her inquisitive mind now I know she was a studier of the guidebook to the supernatural. It’s amazing to me to realize when she spoke of endtimes people being lawless, people wishing rocks would fall on them and increase of knowledge, I would have never thought I would be one of the one’s that would be living to see/experience the “endtimes” take place. Does anyone doubt that we are on the cusp?

    • I think we’ve crossed. So much secret info has been released to the public. It’s almost as if the Global Elite are saying, “Aha! We’ve got you now and there’s nothing you can do about it, so let us give you a preview of what’s coming.”

    • Yes I won’t argue there Sundown! Many of us can see it, smell it, and deeply feel it. Last night I was watching Glenn Beck’s show about the Mahdi, I was riveted. He showed side by side correlation between Islam and Christianity, they are almost the same as far as the end times go. If he is here and the 12ers are in direct contact with him, wouldn’t that tell us antichrist may have arrived? Guess we will have to wait and see.

    • I was surprised to find out they think the beast is a literal beast. 😮 And what a joke to think that when Jesus returns, He’s gonna say “uh, guys, you had it wrong, I’m not who you think I am, sucks for you.” And when I was reading about the Madhi’s characteristics, I thought “his characteristics are stupid and boring compared to Jesus.” They talk about his dark hair, forehead, and pointy nose… our God has eye’s like fire, awesome white hair, feet like bronze, so on and so on. Our Jesus, He’s pretty powerful. 🙂

    • Yes Kimberly and don’t forget that when the mahdi comes with will be Issa[Jesus] who will tell the world this is the go to guy. Oh give me a break! And the world will realize that Jesus wasn’t who he said He was. Another full blown deception. And no there is none like our Jesus!

  3. Mr. Marzulli,

    What drew me to you in the beginning was how like Paul you were trying to be. You were gently trying to lead others to the Lord without using standard phrases. What keeps me with you is how thorough your research is and how you depend on the Lord for all knowledge.

    This blog entry is perfect timing. In no way are you a heretic, and it is nice to see you standing up for yourself, your beliefs, and our Lord. Stay strong.

    Psalm 46:10 “Be still and know that I am God.”

    • I like what Dante Fortson says about pulling the “heretic card.”
      Basically, this means that if someone has taken a stand that is more based on opinion and conjecture than Scripture, and that person is confronted, he or she will accuse the confronter of being a “heretic.” Of course, this requires that the accuser has a devoted audience that is more reliant on the words of its leader than the Scripture and their relationship with the Holy Spirit.
      It is a control maneuver.

    • La isn’t a heretic? Lol ask any main stream pastor if La’s a heretic or not. Thank God for good ole Mr. Marzulli, someone has to be out there doing what he is. My family still think im nuts for warning them that yes ufo’s do exist.

  4. The greater the falling away from following the way of God the more all these evil entities will be allowed to appear and work to destroy more of mankind. The deceptions will become more and more alluring and man who have not come to God and fully in Him the more they are enticed by the supernatural evil ones. With the indwelling of these evil ones men become madmen.

    There will come a time that Satan himself will be allowed to come out personating Christ and most of the world will accept him as such because man has never seen anything as grand as he will show himself to be. The cry will go out “god has come among us”. All but the elect will be deceived.

    Christ in you and you are covered and shielded from them, continue in Him with all your hearts and soul.

    E. Gibbs.

  5. http//dprogram.net

    This is an interview with Catherine Austin-Fitts. She talks about how the elitists have literally formed a “break away” civilization using technology well beyond what is commonly known: this whole global/political situation is a play being acted out and they have people who go after anything that might cause the populace to break character …like artifacts that would challenge the current archeological lies…or movements that would destabilize racial animosity…or organizations that might engender a better understanding in the general populace of the criminality of our foreign policy. All are equally attacked.

  6. Since I havent yet read your books yet L A — I have this question , that you may have already covered — There is a popular ” story ” that President Eisenhour met with aliens at an airforce base and cut a deal with them — they could be free to perform their ” experiments ” on humans and animals if they in return shared their advanced technology with our military — IF — I repeat IF the story is true — perhaps IKE is guilty of inviting the NEPHILIM back into this era

    • In that case JEFF — IKE wasnt WARNING us about the MILTARY / INDUSTRIAL complex — he was actually PREDICTING how powerful they would become ! — perhaps he was an ILUMINATI — you know of course that the german command was shocked that the pentagon stopped PATTEN’s advance north thru italy at their soft unprotected underbelly — and decided to start a second front with the attacks on normandy — etc with a relativly unknown general — (IKE )— it was a deliberate move by the iluminati within our military and government to PROLONG THE WAR — and of course they eventually had to eliminate a true patriot like patton

  7. A fellow LA Marzulli blogger Gary sent this to me its a great video about the Illuminati, UFO’s and fallen angels or demons.

    • Upon watching this video it reminded me of the WikiLeaks founder who was charged with rape, molestation in Sweden. Apparently if you mess with the Government you will be branded as a pervert,or other crime, shot or killed, the choice is yours or is this just coincidence?

    • That was the beginning of the video but the whole video’s focus is the satanic Illuminati and their use of UFO’s and hybrids or nephilim on earth as well their intenions of having a massive UFO invasion to cause fear and panic as well as death. The global elite have a goal of only 500 million people that means 6 billion have to die. So how will that happen nucelar war, a virus or a pandemic, food shortages? What

    • Richard, to venture a guess, if this is Lucy’s plan and he has read the book of Revelation, being cast down to the earth, all he has to do is prevent Christ from returning, the population reduction will work its self out, I am sure he is hoping for the ancient of days to have a senior moment and make a boo-boo. The million dollar question for me is what in the hell is Lucy thinking anyway, has he been stuck in the sky to long with all those diamonds?

  8. The issue has raised unfortunate scrapping in the last few weeks or so. I am open to the “re-run” of this kind of deception. As I have said to friends, Satan is an equal opportunity deceiver and could use old tactics with suitable modifications to fit the times. Your last paragraph you state In the end, if “they” show up and hybrids are revealed, it will become self-evident” is spot on. The hybrids might well NOT be here today, but it does not preclude the possibility of them being here tomorrow!

  9. Dr John E Mack was taken out imo; because he was getting too close to the truth and he was a man with credentials. It reminds me of the Princess Diana death. (A man heavily liquored up while driving crashes into him.) Which brings about this scenario: our governments know about this and don’t want disclosure at this time.

    • Yes ma’am if you ever wonder about someone’s view points being dangerous and they are not either discredited or committed or killed, then usually their views aren’t too threatening to the Luciferian agenda. Remember that we are to point out evil and stand against it when and wherever you find it however. I care not if they slay this mortal coil for it is not mine to begin with. I care not if they take all I own for I cannot take it with me. I care not one whit for their agenda as I know it for a certainty that GOD allmighty will set all things right. No thats wrong isn’t it. He will make all things NEW! God bless ya.

    • Where do I go to continue watching this? He got to the part about the ark being hidden, and then the vid cut out.

    • Sundown Lady,

      The ark has been found and cannot be removed, Ron Wyatt found it, the rest have and are yet looking in all the wrong places. They didn’t know this verse would guide them to the right place but Ron did.

      Ga 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

      Go to http://www.wyattmuseum.com

      It cannot be removed read

      This is the writing of when the Ark was hidden in a cave and turned out to be under where Christ was crucified and when the rock above where it was laid was rent the blood fell down the rent onto the mercy seat.

      2 Maccabees 2:
      4 It was also contained in the same writing, that the prophet, being warned of God commanded the tabernacle and the ark to go with him, as he went forth into the mountain, where Moses climbed up, and saw the heritage of god.
      5 And when Jeremy came thither, he found an hollow cave, wherein he laid the tabernacle, and the ark, and the altar of incense, and so stopped the door.
      6 And some of those that followed him came to mark the way, but they could not find it.
      7 Which when Jeremy perceived, he blamed them, saying, As for that place, it shall be unknown until the time that God gather his people again together, and receive them unto mercy.
      8 Then Shall the Lord shew them those things, and the glory of the Lord shall appear, and the cloud also, as it was shewed under Moses, and as when Solomon desired that place might be honorably sanctified.

      E. Gibbs.

    • If we fight amongst ourselves we will only manage to serve ourselves up on a platter. Martial law and draconian legislation will bring the demonstrations back in line. The powerful will only gather more power. The rich will only grow richer.

      I am just praying against any legislation that labels christians as terrorists, treasonous or otherwise outlawed. That could lead to a great falling away. 😦

      Let us all remember to be peacemakers!

      Please Lord, come get us soon!

  10. It seems there are uprisings everywhere, even with our local governments now too. I know we have our rights to speak our minds on things and it is law, it just amazes me how all things are in upheaval over in the middle east with all the protesting, then I turn on my computer and see protests going on regarding our government and then on my local news channel they are protesting the school superintendent. Not exactly the same but seeing people everywhere I look all protesting, signs, picketing, etc. Makes me wonder, what’s about to break loose. Amen!

  11. I think there’s something going on, and I wouldn’t doubt there are nephilim about now. Though I don’t want to focus on the matter too much.

    IMO, I think some scriptures are used to support the “nephilim now” stance. Matthew 24 “days of noah” and the”they” in daniel’s iron and clay statue. “They will be drinkin and giving in marriage” and “they will intermingle” I think a mundane explanation is actually more applicable. Am I saying that’s the only meaning? No, I do agree that could mean nephilim. I do agree that gen 6 had nephilim, and I do agree that the book of enoch resurfacing is interesting. I myself felt led to get a copy about 5 yrs ago.

    So, yeh, I guess there may be nephies, but I’m not obsessed anymore. Any ways, what can I do if they are around other than pray? La posted when he was in wyoming that some encountered a possible nephilim in wyoming, and they felt God urging them to not talk to the creature. If they’re around, what can I do about it?

    Anyways, here’s my final thought. Here or not, focus on Jesus and preaching salvation. Let God deal with the nephilim. For the most people do a decent job about it.

    • Frank, from time to time I hear that people have encountered these Nephilim, I always wonder, well what do they look like, what do they act like and have never really heard.

    • Hi Frank; I believe that a passage of scripture only has one revelation of truth. it can be presented in various ways but substantially only one truth. The Scripture cannot be contradictory.. Jesus said: “The scriptures cannot be broken”

      [I think a mundane explanation is the only application]. I mean this verse of Daniel does no suggest a Hybrid program as such.
      It speaks of the human condition among the nations in the Final stages of human history.
      We must keep the Statue of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in context as a whole. Therefore the application is about strength and weakness of nations in the final kingdom stage of beast government upon the earth.
      This passage speaks also of racial & religious tensions to be by the “Seed of Man”
      A continuous spirit of disagreement yet forever striving for the adherence Peace. Dan2:41-43.

      John b

  12. I think that I am quite slow to understand things sometimes.
    Yesterday, who was it? – JeffD, I believe, mentioned trying to keep his mind from going into screen saver mode — Ha! That’s me. It takes a lot of work for me to try to understand, but I am trying …
    LA, your writings are so correct in my mind.
    Talking about the Nephilim and your quote –
    “with the exception that he will seat his offspring, the Antichrist, in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, to be worshipped as God. This will bring about the fulfillment of the “seed of the serpent.””
    has made me wonder more and more about the topic of the AntiChrist being “alien”.
    Maybe this is a common thought here that I have somehow missed with my ever more oblivious mind, but I decided to do more research on it, and found this sight which explained the topic very clearly to me, and I thought that maybe some others here might be interested in it.


    Also, in an attempt to get my thoughts straight, is the general idea of all the chaos in the world right now about what Glenn Beck was talking about yesterday — the 12th Imam coming out of chaos and the forming of the Muslim One World Caliphate.
    And also, the chaos in this country, with the thought of Military Rule and the NWO … ??

    Blessings all.
    I feel for you and your father, LA. I pray all will go well for him, and for you as the caretaker. My step-father passed on recently from Altzheimers, it is heartbreaking to watch. Fortunately for him, he passed away before the disease had done to much damage. I pray that the hand of the Lord will rest gently upon you both.

    May God be close to all of us here.

    • After I posted this, I read you comment, Frank, and so agree in that God is bigger than it all. How grateful I am that we are under His wing and He is our strength and protection.

    • lol! Maybe I should change my name. Instead of burning the midnight oil & being “late night” should I just call myself 24/7 Lisa?

    • That looks quite interesting Late Night…thanks for the link.

      Perhaps these are a few more mysteries of America’s beginnings…or…maybe not.

      Was God involved in the founding of America?

      3 and 7 used throughout the Bible also show up in…

      USA = 3 letters

      America = 7 letters

      3×7 = 21

      United States of America = 3×7 = 21 letters…The angel in the book of Daniel was held up for 21 days by the Prince of Persia…21 indicates that God was in control and not the Prince of Persia and allowed his angel to be held up. Is God showing us that he was in control of the founding of this nation?

      United States = 12 letters…symbolic of the 12 disciples that revolved around Jesus? Were the United States also meant to revolve around Christ?

      However, America began with 13 colonies, not 12…………….12 disciples plus Jesus = 13. Is he showing us that he was there from the beginning?

      13 colonies have become 50 states. The number 50 in the Bible I believe represents the year of jubilee for the Jews…a year of deliverance and rejoicing. Is this what the 50 states were meant to be…a source of deliverance and rejoicing for the people of Israel? Only Jesus can be their ultimate source of deliverance for those of the Jews that will turn to him but did God intend to use this nation indirectly?

      Many of you have seen this but perhaps it should be shown again. Jerusalem = jer-USA-lem

      Are these things the symbolism of God or coincidence? I’m not sure. Is there more?

  13. I listened to the interview Alex Jones had with Catherine Austin Fitts (posted above by Rose in post #6). That interview left me wondering. At this stage of the game, can someone tell me how it is that Jones & Fitts think that we the people, can bring down the Globalist conspiracy for One World Government? And that by re-directing our money?

    I mean, the Book of Revelation says, One World Government/One World Religion is most definitely coming. Are Jones and Fitts just hoping to put it on hold?

    • I think Steve Quayle put it best when he said that the primary difference between him and Alex Jones is that Alex believes the globalists can be defeated.
      Neither Alex nor Catherine deny the Scriptures, but they aren’t willing to say ‘this is it’ and let go.
      Whether one believes this is the end or not, their advice is still good.

    • Their advice seems good until you get to the part where, at any given time, for no reason at all, the armed forces in cahoots with the powers that be can confiscate you, your children, your home, your land, your gold, your siver…everything…it seems rather a moot point.
      Attack them through the courts??? Has no one noticed?? Courts meting out justice are dwindling fast.
      Okay, I don’t want to be a doom and gloomer…actually I’m looking forward to the day they all hit the fryer. Oops, I mean, I’m looking forward to the day they all repent and get saved.

    • “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . .”

      Alexander Solzhenitsyn

      All men die and they may, for a while, take the whole world and everything in it. For my part, however, I intend to make sure that when they come to take what God has put into my hands for their god, they will pay dearly for every inch. I am confindent that, whether in this body or the next, I will watch my Lord and God, Jesus Christ take everything…EVERYTHING back.

    • I have seen or heard speculation wherein the people of the world rise up and overthrow the globalist powers That we can see.

      We all rejoice in our victory! Yay! We stopped “their” world government. Now let us make “our” world government.

      Then we hand the keys to the Antichrist…


      I hope it doesn’t happen that way, but it might.

      It is easier to get people to buy into their “own” idea…

    • No guns for me… I’m ready to go. They can have it all. It’s all just dirt anyway.
      In my lifetime, I’ve seen it all, I’ve walked down every street, every alley way and opened every door.
      And there is nothing else I desire, but to be with my Lord.

    • You’re right, Kevin. I don’t believe anything will change – only worsen.
      Sundown Lady, I respect your desire to leave this world. If I were on my own, I’d feel the same way. My problem is that I cannot conscience watching others being victimized: my family, my friends, neighbors, community and animals. I own weapons in order to protect those whom God has given me.

    • Not to say sound a like a downer to those who follow Alex Jones, but is it even possible to resist biblical prophecy as God has ordained it? No point in buying ammunition. More like stock up on food and water.

    • I side more with Steve Quayle, LA, Tom Horn, and Gary Bell on this issue over Alex Jones and many of his patriotic comrades. Despite the fact that I believe Jones is a fellow believer, I believe he is totally wrong on the fact that the Luciferian Globalists can be defeated by some popular Christian/Patriot uprising. The Bible makes it clear that there will be a NWO, an Antichrist dictator, and the Great Tribulation. My guess is that he needs to continue to promote his “resist and rebel” slogan to keep his show going on.

  14. I come to you all in need of prayer yet again,sorry. I was laid off my job of 7 years yesterday and the economy here is terrible. Hey I will survive. here is where I need prayers, first I have been praying for the Lord to show me where he wants me and am sure this is part of his showing me direction so please pray that I will find the path He wants for he and not to be led astray. And please pray that I keep up my spirits, I had done nothing wrong just a change of management caused it and I am very angry and hurt. Please pray that I control these negative feelings and turn them to good.Being bi-polar it can be very hard to keep my heart up when life justs keeps kicking you down. Love you all brothers and sisters, God bless. Randy

    • Randyman, I pray that our Lord will bestow his peace upon you and strengthen you unto his service.

      I have perceived at times how we seem to be stuck in a desert with no hope and all alone, however I also know when this is happening, that the Lord is still with us, sometimes we assume that we should be in a more exciting place or that we are stuck in the wrong place with a great cloud of suppression and or depression hanging over our heads, but in reality we are right where the Lord wants us to be, it is a time to rest and reconcile, to forgive and be forgiven, and learn to cast your burdens on him.
      Let the joy of the love of the Lord comfort you and strengthen your faith and when you are TRULY ready to leave this dry place take possession and rebuke that which binds you and ask the Lord to lead you out in spirit and truth to the place the Lord has prepared for you.

      Victory in the lord, dear brother!

    • Got your back brother, He will provide. I always believe when one door closes another will open. I promise you He will because He never has let me down! Just hang on, it will be just fine for you!

    • Randyman you are in our prayers it will be ok,Just feel the anger and pain and let it go it is just a chance for you to grow in the lord he is making you strong in him.LOL

    • I will pray for you Randyman!

      I had to take a huge pay cut and take a midnight shift when I lost my job a few years ago.
      The positive is that there is a lot of down time so I get to use a computer to read this informative site and do a lot of research on eschetology. I also have more time to pray for people like you, spend more time with God and develop a wonderfully close relationship with Christ. May The Lord Jesus Christ richly bless you and provide for you!

      In the service of His Majesty God Almighty,

    • Randyman, I’m sorry you lost your job, I will be praying for you. If you ever feel like moving to Texas, my company is always hiring, I’m sure I could get you on somewhere. I know its hard pulling up roots though. I can tell you this; everyone has lost a job in their lifetime, many of us, like me, more than once. Right now I’m sure you are going through all kinds of feelings and emotions, mostly negative. Don’t give in to the negative feelings, years ago when I was laid off I was devestaed; I really bled for this company and sacrificed so much for them. I believed their hype and felt they couldn’t do without me, boy was i wrong, In the end I found out the hard way I was expendable like everyone eles…when they laid me off I was shocked, and felt numb, like the world was crashing in around me. I was feeling mixed emotions, sad one minute then angry the next. Just know in the end the Lord has your back and won’t let anything happen to you, although it looks and feels bleak now, in the end you will come out on top and maybe even land a better job. There is no shame in losing a job man, don’t let the devil lie to you, I should know, I have lost a few, for reason I will not discuss on this blog 🙂 I feel God has bigger and better plans for you, and who knows, maybe the Lord wanted you out of that place, has something better for you and had to kick you in the pants to get you out of there because he knew you would never leave on your own…The old saying God works in mysterious ways is true. Randyman, never look back, always look to the future, that place is now history to you, now is the time to look forward to what God has in store for you and your future. Yes it scary, the unknown always is, however, it’s also exciting. You will be moving on to something new and fresh; you will be out of the old routine and stagnate rut we sometimes find ourselves in. We may never know the reasons why things happen,, for me, when I was laid off I felt the Lord was trying to tell me to put my trust in him more and not to rely so much on worldly things , in other words I began to put my job first, which we all know is a no no…
      Keep your chin up Randyman; God is always faithful to his promises. Isaiah 41:10 Do not fear, for I am with you; do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, surely I will help you, and surely I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.’

  15. Soooo… I have a question, to anyone who would help me in pondering, and I hope I don’t make this confusing. I couldn’t sleep last night, so my mind was running. It’s kinda about the mark of the beast. ~Since the days are to be like the days of Noah, and they lived for a long time back then, ALSO, taking in consideration a perplexing scripture to me “men will seek death and not find it” (which made me think of Madness In The Fast Lane)… AND… the fact that science peoples are working on making people live forever through technology or whatever…. AND… that Jesus does not condemn anyone to judgment until after they have died…. I was wondering, by taking the mark of the beast, are they in any way “converted” physically/spiritually? …into a “false” promise to become an immortal being? As if the Antichrist were to say “Take my mark upon you, for I will give you life, eternal life, and even now. You will never die. Blah, blah, blah, I’m god and I’ll provide all your needs… Look at those who followed Jesus. They have died and you see them no more. Where is their God? He has not come down to even save them as they die for Him… blah blah blah”

    … and if they are converted into something that was not human, that would kinda makes sense as to why Jesus turns His back on them, like, by taking the mark they have tied His hands.

    Or… do they just become flat out demon-possessed? I just don’t understand how a) Jesus turns His back on them while they are still living (technically, not as a matter of the heart of God) and b) how they will seek death and not find it.

    There… if anyone would like to ponder along, please do… 🙂

    • I hear you, Kimberly. I have been thinking that recently. Perhaps they will be promised as it was in the days of Noah.
      People will have the incentive to take the “Mark” if they were promised 5,6 and 800years of life and youth and health. How many would jump at the chance?
      In reality they will only get 7 years max, but most won’t consider that at all.

    • Jim Wilhelmsen talks about this. Check out his site… I think it’s called Echoes of Enoch. If nothing else, it’ll give you something to do in the middle of the night.

    • Oh really!?! I was on his site for hours just reading one thingy about aliens and such… I didn’t know he talked about this too… I still have to rummage through the rest of his site. After I was on there the other day… took me about three hours to fall asleep, only because I was thinking. :-O

    • Jesus turns his back on them because they turned their backs on him first. That is why people will take the mark. Those who take the mark are lost souls that don`t even know him or most probably are willingly refusing to follow him. I don`t believe the mark will be turning them into zombies, as the scriptures only say, you won`t be able to buy or sell without it. They can easily get possessed without the chip. It can be that there will be such chaos and famine and food shortage that people will willingly take it thinking that this new system will last forever and lead them into a bright future. They will have no choice if they want to survive, having no other option. Who knows, probably there will be even the alien disclosure before that moment of taking the mark, to convince people even more that this is a good thing.

      The parables of 10 virgins imply to me that there is limited time. There will be a time when there is no turning back, no time to fill up your lamp with oil. That is why I don`t get it why people believe the pretrib theory of 144000 evangelizing the world (I can not find this in the scriptures…hmmm…), while revelation speaks of people blaspheming God to the end because of the wrath which he will reveal through his plagues and natural disasters and probably letting demons run havoc on the earth.

      Besides don`t worry about the mark of the beast, worry about the mark of God. 😉

    • I know… but people turn their backs on Him all the time, they even profess they’ll never worship Jesus and even blaspheme Him, but some will have a Damascus experience… so I was thinking it would have to be more than that. But the time running out makes sense too.
      … what about the not finding death part? … and yes, very true about the chaos part.
      whooooa… I have not heard about the “pretrib theory of 144000 evangelizing the world” I understand them separately from one another. :-/ hmm..

      I liked the video! It made me think of a part in one of Chuck Missler’s books about the whole gospel story written in the genealogy in Genesis 5… blew me away! I’m not worried about the mark at all… haha, um.. I’m an artist and my imagination likes to picture every detail… it’s just the way I’m wired. If God wrote about something in His word, my imagination feeds off of it. And it’s just for the sake of imagination, not an unhealthy need to know everything now. 🙂 I love the mark of God, I hope I have that hovering above my head too. 😀

    • Kimberly- In the book “Heaven is for Real” the little boy who had the NDE could see “lights” glowing over “believers” heads in the spirit dimension. Thought that was interesting.

    • I keep hearing about that book… and that IS interesting! No telling how many things we are going to ooo and aahhh at when we see this type of thing in Heaven… speaking of Heaven.. have you read/heard of the book titled “Heaven” by Randy Alcorn? Amazing! It’s like a textbook about Heaven, but not boring at all, and it answers any kind of question you could possibly have about Heaven. It’s craziness. Anytime I have a not so great day, I read a portion of that and it keeps me focused on what really matters. I love it.

    • Hi, Bozz,
      I once asked Mike Heiser about the Aleph Taw thing. This was his answer:

      In section 7.6, the alef tav is described as a designator of a definite direct object. Does it have a deeper theological function? I have heard it taught that because these two letters correspond to the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet, much like the Greek “alpha and omega,” it signals an appearance or allusion to the Messiah. Is this true, or is it purely grammatical?

      ** no; it simply marks the direct object (there is also a preposition of the same two letters [a homograph] that doesn’t occur very frequently. I’ve seen the YouTube video on the aleph-taw thing, and it’s ridiculous. This accusative marker lives in other [pagan] Canaanite languages and dialects – guess they were talking about the Jewish messiah as well (oops).


    • Yikes! Well, we know we can be sure of this “Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God, who has also SEALED us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a GUARANTEE.” 😀 This one is not hidden, we see it plainly. 🙂

    • Thanks Rose. If Michael says so, than it most likely is true. That is why I like to share the info on this blog. Someone always knows something about the things you post. When I watched the video, I thought, the Holy Spirit is our seal or mark if you like, but this stuff sounded cool at the time. It`s always nice to have things clarified by Michael Heiser. 🙂

    • I can say one thing, the chips people are putting into themselves and their animals right now, according to Catherine Albrect of Caspian says that the verichip is causing tumors. She is one of the world’s leading researchers on this subject and one of her books is called Spy Chips. The bible says that those that take this mark will come down with noisome boils. Pretty amazing stuff.

    • I know!!! I was thinking about that tooo! Especially when the whole chip thing came out on the scene, I remembered learning that your body fights foreign objects that are in your body, and was wondering if there was a connection there with the boils and such. That goes to show that they fall into their own pit they have dug. 😮

    • Sad to say, that whatever they are promised with the mark that it doesn’t help much…

      Longer life, curing disease, superhuman strength, free rides in UFOs or any other vain promise only leads to one end.

      Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh. (Rev 19-21)

    • I don to believe that they will be promised anything “For God will send them a strong delusion that they should believe what is false 2Thes2;11,12.

      john B

  16. Just the other day I found a link within a link that LA had posted. We all know that there are several prophetic perspectives to glean through regarding the AC and FP; this link connects somewhat to what Patrick posted at todays #9 slot. The link I’m posting has some “new” information and ideas about potential scenarios no less reasonable than anything else we know about AC to date. In fact, I believe it prudent to consider the prophecies in light of current events against the backdrop of YHWH’s written word. To coin the latest catch phrase, this is “for the flexible”. Have a look-see– then perhaps those so inclined can chime in. Be kind. Be gentle. Be discerning. Be like a Berean!

    • Moment, before I moved to where I am now I worked for the same company Chuck Missler did, in prototype development, the reason I mention this is to state that, R&D is always ahead of the curve by at least one year upwards, perhaps three on average or greater depending of the technology in development. As I understood by scuttlebutt in the later part of the 90’s that IBM had a working prototype of a bio-computer.

      Excerpt from Wikipedia: Biocomputers use systems of biologically derived molecules, such as DNA and proteins, to perform computational calculations involving storing, retrieving, and processing data.

      A “hybrid” Biocompter contains both man and machine, but predominately machine integrated with man (DNA), since I have not heard much about this in recent years I can only assume that it is in a higher prototype development stage or even at the production level, requiring a greater level of secrecy.

      Whatever the case this should not be dismissed especially concerning Hybrid technology even thou the thought of it promotes the saying – I’ll be back!!

    • Patrick this is fascinating! Did you by chance take a look at that link? I’m curious to hear your take on it. My step-father (now deceased) of forty years was a technical engineer R&D man (JPL, NASA, etc.) so I have an interest in this part of the prophetic equation. That “science without a conscience” (chaotic, ill-applied technology if you will) could be the core of the coming NWO would be no surprise to me. My understanding is that the “Beast” description refers to the kingdom of the AC who is it’s king. What you have shared certainly points in this direction. Other thoughts?

    • Moment, I agree it is fascinating and I skimmed over the page you pointed to and a few of the passages of Revelations do seem to refer to a technological idea that has crossed my mind from time to time even as it is written on this web page. I have paid very little attention even to my own thoughts, because I was not ready to venture into uncharted possibilities, but it does seem that it is time to entertain possibilities because current technology uncannily does seem to parallel scripture to a greater degree.

      We have enough diverse technology already to put a beast together and bring it to life, in fact the beast itself could be so intelligent that those who saw the beast (holographically) would be in wonder of it. Also it could unify the world and solve financial problems quite easily and effectively among other issues considering the amount of computational power/storage, biotechnology we have, plus a world wide net infrastructure already in place including databases such as Google among others to feed it.

      We are already using computers to map trends and make predictions our new “Oracle of Delphi” so to speak. I guess someone just needs to give life to the beast, perhaps Watson is the first of a greater one to come? I plan on when I have more time to review this idea more, but it does have interesting possibilities maybe our cosmic space brothers could give us a little push to implement this before we destroy our selves, or maybe we are already birthing their new hybrid baby.

  17. Obama is part of the flood of nephilim on earth at the present time. How much alien DNA does one need to qualify as a nephilim anyway? Perhaps simply inviting one’s soul to be taken over by a
    “walk-in” qualifies. In any case, no matter how the birth certificate debate plays out, there’s too much about Obama that fits the picture of a nephilim to think otherwise.
    Just posting this so that someday, when it becomes clear, they can look back and say “Well, at least a handful suspected it.”

  18. Things are not looking to good in the gulf area

    The quake happened at 5:15PM CST just offshore from Gulf Shores, AL. The epicenter was 35 miles from Mobile AL (where I am), 40 miles from Pensacola FL, and 45 miles from Pascagoula MS. The quake was 3.1 miles deep, and there were reports of “light shaking” on some of the Alabama and Florida barrier islands.
    February 18, 2011 Friday 3.5 EQ
    Location: 30.180N, 87.848W
    35 Miles SSE from Mobile, Alabama
    40 Miles WSW from Pensacola, Florida
    45 Miles ESE from Pascagoula, Mississippi
    175 Miles SSW from Montgomery, Alabama
    [3.1 Miles Deep]
    3.5 Quake Hits the Gulf area not too far from Deep Water Horizon

    • James, I posted on the manuscript about two days ago speaking of my great interest in it. Won’t go into all the detail again other than to say I am very fascinated by it. Like Moment, I have book marked pages on it as I hope to keep up with any new findings. Thanks for the link bro.

      In Christ,
      Jeff D

    • So far, all I’ve learned about the VM:
      **ca. 15th century manuscript
      **Terence McKenna (look him up in Wikipedia) was very interested in it so this says quite a bit about it’s probable origins.
      **The world may have to wait another 100 years to see it deciphered (riight…..)
      **Most (and at-present) allegations about it are found on new agey blogs and websites.
      **Youtube displays a three part “stream of consciousness” discourse by Terence McKenna regarding the VM (watch and listen if you dare. Oops, I mean care to:^D)

    • Yeah I’ve looked at it a lot, but it’s weird. The writing looks like tolkien’s elvish, and none of the pics look like actual plants.

      I was hoping for some wisdom in deciphering it, but alas that’s probly not to be.

  19. OK I need some help from anyone who can help me get my son in a treatment facility or a halfway house.I dont know any if anyone has any ideas please let me know.He is finally at a point where he wants to turn his life around.He is in Alabama but is willing to go if he can find a place God bless you all for your prayers.This is a big step for him and he is crying out.

    • If there is an Alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous number in your phone book, you could get hold of someone fairly local who would be happy to guide you further.

    • Hi Margaret~
      A Christian recovery program (3 mos-1 yr. depending on his need) is of course the best bet. Salvation Army has a great program but really requires a willful committment from your son– they are strict. But if there’s no convincing him of that then an AA chapter near him could give him some help and perhaps offer some other resources. While you’re online give a look at what the state of Alabama has to offer in the way of intervention programs (state-funded through health and welfare.) Use search engine keywords related to substance abuse, addiction, [Christian] recovery houses, etc. If you and he agree on him relocating to a recovery program near you that may be very helpful in the way of family support. Just some ideas. From my own family experience I know how difficult and heart-wrenching this problem is. Just do what you can and turn everything over to the Lord. Patience is really needed in this as God’s timing isn’t always our timing. Be strong and faithful in Him, Margaret. His peace to you.

    • If all else fails Margaret, you can get him to the hospital and if it’s a good one they can treat him for withdrawals and social services can place him somewhere appropriate. I will pray for you and him and I hope he will get some help!

  20. Celebrate Recovery is a christian recovery group that meets at local churches, I have heard lots of great things about it, very caring and loving people who love Jesus. Go to the provided link and search for a group closest to you and then contact the leader of that certain group, they will lead you in the right direction for your son. I will be praying for him Margaret.



    • Thank you, Mark, for posting that link!!! I’m contacting them hoping they can help a friend in another state who’s struggling with alcoholism. Please say a prayer for Tom in MN battling alcoholism and is all alone in life. He needs to beat alcoholism and find the Lord–but not necessarily in that order! 😉

      Thank you again!!!

  21. Margaret: I live in extreme South Ga., however, this Christian Home has a North Ga. home also, it should not be too far from Birmingham. Check out the web site I have heard nothing but good things from them…Maby you can call..Prayers are with you and your son:



  22. And this is one of the most beautiful things I have read about in awhile… from Chuck Missler’s site: http://www.khouse.org/articles/2003/449/ (that makes a TON of sense to me) !!!

    … and he makes a very very good point about Post-trib rapture…. if everyone is raptured at the end… no one will be left to populate His millennial Kingdom. Just sayin’ you guys, just sayin… 🙂

    • I love Chuck Missler! Ya know Kimberly it is because of that teaching I saw a while back that gave me even more hope that we could be home sooner than later. It makes alot of sense. If we are considered the Bride, and you look at the Jewish wedding, and the Lord made parables about just that, I don’t know when all of us will be taken, but I remain that much more optimistic than ever! I feel a huge tug to get ready, I really do!

    • I love him tooooo, LauraR! Okay, so I almost puked with amazement after reading that. I’ve heard it before, but not nearly as detailed as that article describes it. I can’t stop thinking about it! I don’t think it can be made more clear than that…. I am baffled. The Lord and His ways of telling us stories that reveal His mysteries… it’s just amazing. And to think that we’ll have an eternity to get to know Him and to learn about Him and His creations…!!! (my head is going to explode!!!!) Sometimes, it’s just too much for me to think about.

      I completely agree about the tug to get ready… tremendously. I used to be sad/scared about it… because I always dreamed about having a family, to have children to love and raise in the fear of the Lord, and prayed to Him that He would take that desire away if He is coming soon.. so that it wouldn’t hinder me from anticipating His return… and He has done just that! And that’s all I have ever dreamed about! If He tarries and the opportunity arises, I won’t shoo it, but I am by no means sad about the thought of not having a family. 🙂 I can’t even dream of anything more exciting than the Lord coming… I can’t think about anything else.

      Haha, sometimes, like days today where the weather is super gorgeous and the sky is full of big poofy white clouds… I’m thinking “you know… those clouds are mighty beautiful, the Lord could come riding down in those if He wanted to.” I’m basically always in that kind of la la land… which happens to be a reality.

      ALSO, I had this thought after reading that article… If God created the earth in 6 days (which I do believe is literal) … and Jesus is off preparing a place for us and has been at this for 2,000 years…. (and I have to keep from exploding at this thought)… but… can you imagine how stinking awesome that’s going to be? I get excited about stuff on earth and everything, but I can’t help but think about when the time comes when all things are made new. 🙂 chills.

    • Kimberly you are awesome and so funny! I am glad you are here and can’t wait to meet you someday! You have a family and it is God’s family! “I almost puked with amazement” LOL HAHA!!!!!

    • Aww, you actually made me sad… a good sad. I can’t wait to meet you too.. I was actually thinking that earlier. :*-o I think you are awesome too, Laura… and I’m glad we are family 😀 someday…. someday.

      Your birthday is coming… maybe it will be then! If so, I’ll be the one with a golden kazoo! 😉

  23. Kimberly and Laura. Always makes good sense to me. But there are those that won’t go with it no matter.
    Why would the bridegroom want to slap his future bride around and then marry her?

    It’s called the “Time of Jacob’s Trouble” Unless someone is a British Israel believer, it is for the Jewish nation and not the church.

    But if we go through it, we go through it.

    I am curious to see how those 7 years transpire. However, I don’t believe it can be comprehended how horrible it is going to be, so I would rather go before it starts.

    • Me too Doug. I hear people say stuff like “what makes you think we are so special the Lord didn’t come for all the Christian during the inquisition or the holocaust, so why do you think He would do it for us?” I often wonder if people say these things because they really expect to go though the trib. Or they are so dogmatic that they won’t consider any other view than the one they hold. I can’t understand why people get so upset with this doctrine, I have researched each view and almost surer than ever that we will be taken sooner than later. I would love it if our friends here would have an honest, peaceful blog about this and what and why each believes the way they do. I refuse to get in any argument with anyone as I feel everyone has an opinion and has something to bring to the table. I respect whatever people’s view is on the matter. I don’t want to be here nor anyone I love especially my son. If I have to go through it so be it as well!

    • I forgot my point on why people say things about why the Lord didn’t come and rescue those that died for Him in the past, reason being for one is it simply wasn’t time. This is a once in eternity event and now is the time! But at the same time those people who were and are being martyred For His name, I am not worthy to even tie their shoes. Consider what all those poor souls must have gone through and how they could go through it! Would we have that kind of moxie to do it also?

    • So true! People get really upset about the pre-trib! Sometimes very mean. When I consider the mid or post trib, I just think “Crud! I better hunker down and count the cost quick so I can endure this to the end.” And besides! What doesn’t make us special… He died for us after all… He bought us with a price… His very own blood was shed… I think that says we are special.. at least we are special to Him. 😀

    • Couldn’t agree more, Doug. Why would He want to slap us around? Only a wife-beater would do that.. and He is not one of those.

      Okay, but seriously… for the post-tribbers, how can you refute the whole “no one populating the millennial Kingdom if everyone is raptured”? That is the raddest point ever made! 🙂 But yes, some will side with the post-trib belief because of one reason or another.

      Yeah, I hope to go before too. I am willing to go through it, but it just doesn’t add up.. I always wonder about the silence in heaven part. Will we be there when that happens?

    • I agree Kimberly, but the Lord also did say a servant is not above his master. Another point is while so many were martyred and right now in camps and being martyred even today, there are also so many that have died in peace and have never had to deal with martyrdom either. But at the same time I am not ashamed to say I want to avoid that time if at all possible. We are also to comfort one another with these words.

    • True, true, true… I can’t help but think that no matter what, NO MATTER WHAT, His ways are higher than ours and if we could see the whole mind of God, we would lay down our lives in a heart beat, but we don’t see Him in His entirety yet. That’s where the faith part kicks in. He already basically said not to worry about our mortal bodies and what man can do to them, but to fear the One who decides our eternal destination. And to think of it now… the ones who have suffered for Christ and have laid down their lives, they are finally with Him… while wearing a rad robe, I might add (or is that just for the tribulation saints?… don’t remember) Either way, He is with them now. 🙂

      And I think that everyone has their own story of how they have laid their lives down for Jesus… everyones may not be their actual lives, it may be more hidden… and… in contrast, I love this verse “To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice” Proverbs 21:3 also 1 Corinthians 13 “And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.”

      P.S. … even Jesus prayed that His cup would pass Him by, so I think it’s perfectly okay to not want to face being killed… death wasn’t meant to be.

    • I believe Pre-Trib too! The fact that people call me an escapist doesn’t bother me! I usually say Jesus said we could ESCAPE so I believe Him! Is He an Escapist?

      Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

      I also make mention that we get caught up at the Last trump! I look at it this way!

      In numbers 10 it makes mention of Two Silver trumpets and silver in the scriptures is always a picture of redemption!

      Numbers 10:2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.

      The first trump was blown for the nation of Israel in Exodus 19! Remember when the Lord told them to prepare today and tomorrow and He would come down on the Third day!

      Its also almost saying in a prophetic sense today = 1000 yrs, tomorrow = another 1000 yrs and the 3rd day is the culmination of 3000 yrs!

      But in Israel’s case at that time 3 literal days passed and Remember what happened next?

      Exodus 19:16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

      That’s right! The Lords voice was that redeeming trumpet to give them the 10 commandments and to gather them and take them on the journey to the Promised Land!

      In the same way The Lord will also gather His Church at the Last Trump just like He did for The Nation of Israel!

      Remember the First Trump was already blown a long time ago during Exodus for Israel and the Last Trump that Paul is speaking of is for the Church! I’m pretty sure everyone has already heard about 1 Thessalonians ch. 4:13-18, Corinthians 15:52, and Revelation ch.4:1

      1Thess 4:13-18 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
      14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
      15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
      16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
      17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

      1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

      Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will show thee things which must be hereafter.

      You see the same Voice that spoke to the Nation of Israel and will speak to the Church is Jesus Christ Himself! Think about it! God’s voice was the trumpet and the same is true for Jesus the Christ just as John in revelation heard a Voice that sounded like a Trumpet speaking to him and he said when he turned around to see who it was speaking to him he saw Jesus the Christ our Lord!

      Rev 1:10-13 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
      11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
      12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
      13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

      So soon Jesus Christ will say to you and me, “Come up here” in the voice of a Great Trumpet right before the Tribulation starts! No worry’s I believe what He says to the Church is true! He can keep us from the hour of temptation that will com to try the whole world!

      Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

      A warning To some in the Church though! He even says that if some of them do not repent He will cast them into great tribulation, but will keep them from it if they repent!

      Rev 2:21-22 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
      22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

      Can’t wait! Lets keep watching and praying that we may be accounted worthy!

      Psalm 27:5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a Rock.

    • All those who are skeptical about the pre-trib and I am one of them will be pleasantly surprised if it is true. It is not like we will be left behind because we are skeptical about it lol. But I believe it is a deception (the rapture before the last 7 years),a product of counter reformation.

      Michael Heiser in one of his interview said that nowhere in the scriptures, there is mentioned a 7 year tribulational period. That come from futuristic teachings on Daniel 9:24-27. Futurist tend to put a lot of things of prophecy that all ready got fulfilled in the future, but I also operate this way sometime. That is because we have limited knowledge about the real history (not the history in school books).

      All I know is there is mentioned a 3,5 year period. We could as well be in those 7 last years if you have watched a series on youtube called “Daniels timeline”. That tetrad in 2014-15 also marks something important I believe.

      Michael Heiser:

    • If the model is the Jewish wedding, it could as well be what Chuck Missler and others teach. In the end I can assuredly say: I don`t know and I am leaving this debate to the elders.

    • Bozz you and Sandie should start a web site. We talk from time to time she has been relentless with her post tribulation theories.

      I will tell you what I told her

      “For God hath NOT appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Thessalonians 5:9).

      “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will KEEP thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth ” (Revelation 3:10).

      What would be the purpose of an Omniscient, all loving God to leave his church on earth during the tribulation? There isnt a purpose.

      Sandie says because we need to purified. I dont buy that debate. Think of the fear that would cause the church of going through the tribulation? Why for what purpose! There is none!

    • Hi Bozz~
      I have copies of the DVD’s from these “Ancient Of Days” conferences in Roswell. This is where I was introduced to the members of this [particular] panel. Subsequently how I discovered LA’s blog “Spiral Of Life”. Thank you so much for highlighting Mike Heiser’s discourse on a touchy subject. He has the knack for turnin’ lotsa light on YHWH’s written word. ((also helps that he is a believer:^D))

    • If they are confused, then it has satan’s signature all over it brother Matt.

      The Apostasy foretold by Apostle Paul is climaxing to the end! its fruition is The “Day of the Lord”. A consuming Fire by the appearing of Christ Jesus and his mighty angels.
      Praise the Lord the King of Glory cometh Amen. Come Lord Jesus!

      john b

    • John B, my comment was in tongue in cheek, being sarcastic really.
      As for your question from what I call tell its not either conversion or to make up numbers, I believe it’s more about acceptance.
      When Brother Osteen came out recently from his spiritual coma, and announced homosexuality is not Gods best for people in that life style, and fell just a tad short of calling it a out right sin, the Houston area in which I am located (and that has a very large gay community rivaling that of San Fran) went into a tizzy…its all over the news here…You see Brother John, we are to accept homosexuals into the church with open arms, and never mention the sin they are living in, after all its not their fault, God made them that way, and who are we to say that its a sin? Doesn’t God love all of us? Surely, God understand our desires and are we not all God’s children?
      Sure we are, so go out and do whatever feels good, don’t feel any condemnation for sin, and remember (and this is key), skip over the bible scriptures that mention your sin by name such as the ones I listed below. And if you happen to accidently run across it during bible study or your misguided pastor at your church stumbles upon it, just know it was written by man a long time ago and surely times have changed since then…lets more on to more feel good stories of the bible, after all there is no need to touch on all this negatvity,,, right? Our loving God wouldn’t send anyone to hell over such a minor infraction anyway, so no reason for concern. Now let’s get back to the prosperity gospel, that’s always a safe subject, and brings in the memberships too!!!

      “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. ( Leviticus 18:22)

      “If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them” ( Leviticus 20:13) ….

      Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. ( 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)

      “What comes out of you is what defiles you. For from within, out of your hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile you. ( Mark 7:20-23)

    • Good question Matt…maybe they could change the title to “gayish teen” and get even higher numbers.

      As for the subject itself, what I’m going to say is controversial. A few years back, God seemed to be leading me to ask him questions…questions that he knew he was going to answer but questions that I normally never would have asked. One of those questions was if homosexuals are actually born that way. My firm belief was that they were not and so there would have been no reason for me to ask him, except that he seemed to want me to. His answer was surprising…he said yes.

      His whole answer was “Yes”…followed by a long pause because he knew I would be surprised and then he continued…”that’s why they need to receive Jesus, so they can be delivered out of the sin they were born into.” A rather astounding answer when you think about it, because that answer takes all the wind out of their sails…being born that way is no excuse. In fact, being born that way is exactly what the Bible has already told us about ourselves…that we are all born into sin. The sin that they are born into is homosexuality and just like all sin, the only way out is to receive Jesus. They don’t believe it’s sin because they say “we are born that way so how can it be sin” and God says yes it’s sin and I’ve already told you that you were born that way…but there is no excuse because you can receive Jesus.

      I started to ask him if the homosexuality was genetic or spiritual or whatever but he seemed to not want me to ask but just to agree with them that they are indeed born that way and to point out to them that they are agreeing with God and that he wants them to receive Jesus so they can be delivered out of their sin.

    • As for your comments below about kayaking and camping in dangerous situations…just think about all the humorous stories you’d be able to share with the rest of us when you got back…..well….if you got back.

    • The Question to consider with regards to the work of restoring animal sacrifices in a proposed New temple by the Temple institute within the State of Israel is this;

      Is God’s Holy Spirit the Motivator Or inspiration behind the work of the temple Institute?

      There are many denominations and TV evangelists Believing This To be the case.
      The concern is raised because It’s Contrary to the Authority Of the Holy Spirit inspired Word of God”.
      It is a Contradiction In Itself that the holy Spirit be involved in a work which is in opposition to what He Wrote via the Apostles of our Lord.

      [A perfect Gift of Righteousness God has Given to Jews and Gentiles alike by the Atoning sacrifice of the Spotless Lamb of god in The Finished work Of Christ the redeemer]

      The Temple Institute is providing The Same Old Work of past Judaism in rejection of Christ. For which they were Judged In 70AD. Think not that God is in the process of restoring that which He has made obsolete.
      He is Not! and will not be pleased by having the precious blood Of “His Perfect sacrifice (Jesus) shed for all times made of no Avail by a revived Jewish System of Sacrifice belonging to the Shadows of the old Covenant of Moses.

      I find it very disturbing that Christians support it as God’s work.
      The same Holy Spirit at work Today is the same Spirit That Led the Apostle Paul to Say “Beware of those of the circumcision” Phil3:2.

      There is the Stench of “open Graves with Dead men’s bones” in all of this. Mat23:27.

      That which the Apostle told Christians to beware Of, most Now receive with open arms.

      This is The Ecumenical Spirit of Babylon strengthening the dominion of her Seductiveness over the face of the Earth.

      “Come out of her my people” is a call to Christians to separate themselves from the work of darkness, having nothing in common with it.

      The Temple institute is Judaism revived (a work of darkness) within the Whore’s embrace along with all other institutions who are outside of the Grace Of God in which we Stand by the Power Of The Holy Spirit.

      John B

    • John B.

      They have freedom to try and they may start it but I for one don’t believe it will ever be completed.

      Yahweh left the temple when Christ died on the Cross and for Him to dwell in a new one they would need to return to Him and do we see that happening. To them He was an imposter.

      I would be surprised if there is 5’1/2 full years of time left and they would need to be at it fast to complete such a grand structure in that amount of time and wars would need to be quelled.

      E. Gibbs.

    • Off hand John, although there may be many, I don’t know of anyone who believes such a thing to be the will of God. The prophecy of God, yes, but not the will of God anymore than the antichrist is the will of God. It all appears to me to be prophetic but against his will. However, as to whether the Israeli state itself is against his will is a different subject.

  24. Hi John,

    Yes, Jesus fulfills all that the Temple was typology was pointing to. There is no need for animal sacrifices as Christ’s atonement is sufficent for Jew and Gentile.

    But, Jesus does predict that a third temple will be rebuilt and it will be a sign that His second coming is near. The antichrist will claim to be God in this third temple and have an image of himself erected in the holy place and will demand that people worship him or the image (the abomination of desolation).


    [15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)….


    [1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    [2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    [3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    [4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
    [5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
    [6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
    [7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    [9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


    [14] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
    [15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

  25. Four Giant UFO’s will herald Maitreya the false Christ?

    The Reluctant Messiah – Share International Thinks It Found the World Teacher


    The UK’s Guardian reports that Raj Patel, author of The Value of Nothing has found himself in the strange position of being proclaimed “the world teacher.” Members of the group Share International, who follow the teachings of Benjamin Creme, believe that Patel has fulfilled Creme’s prophesies of the coming world teacher.

    Creme himself has not said one way or another whether Patel is the world savior. Patel wants the Share International people to leave him alone. He has no desire to be the world’s savior and does not believe in Creme’s philosophy.

    In the past, we have published some of Creme’s material here on GodDiscussion. Here is a YouTube of Coast to Coast AM’s interview of Creme last summer. The show’s host, George Noory said he became physically ill after the interview.

    Although he used to say it would be a star, Creme now believes that the heralding in of his messiah, Maitreya, will be the appearance of a UFO that is five football fields in length. There are four of these gigantic spacecraft that will supposedly be seen all over the world with Maitreya makes his appearance on earth. These UFOs will be just like the Star of Bethlehem that marked Jesus’ birth, which Creme claims was also a UFO. …cont,

    • Yeah I saw that, pretty interesting. However I must say, kayaking in a lake with the potential of a Loch Ness type monster’ lurking nearby is not my idea of a vacation. I would say that would be equal to being alone in the middle of woods and coming upon two giant 14 inch foot prints and bipedal tracks and convincing yourself it’s probably just a bear and it’s perfectly safe to camp nearby.

    • Ok Rose, tell you what, you and I will head out to Fouke, Arkansas armed with nothing but a Swiss army knife and a pen light flash light, go into the middle of the woods, sit and wait, lets see who takes off running first. I already know it will be me, I’ve seen the film documentary Legend of Boggy creek when I was a kid and somehow that movie has spooked me ever since.




    • Matt,

      My husband and I would be honored to accompany you and your wife to such an adventure, but we never go anywhere armed with just a swiss army knife.

      I believe that these creatures exist. We have had dogman sightings not far from our house.

      I was just picking on you, which, in my slightly cracked household, is a sign of affection.

    • Bigfoot will never be caught, im my opinion he is an interdimensional creature that somehow, is able to cross over, either willing or by force. There are many reports and testimonies of hunters shooting directly at one and nothing happens, it’s as if it goes right through them.
      One story was about a trucker who happened to pull over at a rest area at about midnight to take a quick nap before moving on right outside of Hot Spring Ark. About 2:00 AM he feels the cab of his truck rocking softly, just enough to wake him up, but he goes back to sleep, thinking its just the wind whipping up outside.. a few minutes later, the cab is rocked again this time with more force, now concern starts to set in, the trucker thinks it may be some young punks playing a prank, he waits a moment and again the cab is rock this time even more violently, he decides to crawl up from the sleeping area in the back of the cab to the front seat to see if he can figure out who the prankster is and scare them off…he slides up to the driver side window of the cab ,,peers out into the darkness and he claims he came face to face with some kind of ape like humanoid. The creature makes no movement’s just stares back at him, seemingly curious. He claims the eyes were reddish in color and seemed to be glowing. The trucker knowing the cab of the truck is quite high and the creature is looking into the driver side window with out any problem, he knows whatever it is, it must be huge, …he was too shocked to move, fear was gripping at him, his heart was pounding, he said he couldn’t understand exactly what he was seeing, Finally after 3 or 4 minutes the creature backed away, and quickly moved into the brush and heavily wooded area just beyond the other side of the truck parking area. The trucking quickly started his truck and left the area immediately. He then filed a report with the local sheriff. He said he although he still passes that rest area on occasion, he will never stop at that rest area again…he had trouble sleeping for months after the encounter.

    • Actually Rose, I heard it second hand, like I get everything eles, clothes, shoes car, furniture. Doesn’t mean its not good right?

  26. Just a reminder for folks on both sides of the issue of the modern nephilim issue:
    2 Timothy 2

    23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

  27. “In my opinion Satan is building an army. He will be cast from the second heaven to earth and scripture tells us: woe to the inhabitants of earth because the devil has come down to you and he knows his time is short! This is not some allegory or metaphor, it is a real event and it is a game changer!”

    Hate to burst your bubble Lynn, but that already happened. Satan is bound right now, no longer to deceive the nations. He is very limited in what he can do. The next time he is released will be right before Jesus hands over the Kingdom to God and comes to throw him into the lake of fire.

    “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that MUST SOON take place.”

    Soon is not over 2000 years later. Mathew 24 is fulfilled. Next thing to happen after the last saint is regenerated and the book of life is finished and fulfilled:

    [7] And when the thousand years (HAPPENING NOW!! LONG PERIOD OF TIME NOT A LITERAL 1000 YEARS) are ended, Satan will be released from his prison [8] and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. [9] And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, [10] and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
    (Revelation 20:7-10 ESV)

    Let’s rule with Christ!!! We need to be salt and light in this world!!

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  29. This is not a comment but more of a question…I hope someone has an answer…..Gen 4: 16-18.. When Cain, after murdering his brother Abel, settled in the land of Nod, his family multiplied. Now, since no other humankind were mentioned, who did he have relations with as a wife? A fallen angel? Could it be a Nephilim?

  30. Whoever thinks that fallen angels had sex with “beautiful earthly women” are seriously deluded. Why stop with just the the beautiful women. Why not with all women if they are so desperate, or do the ugly fat ones not appeal to their taste. Then how would they know?

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