Sunday Go to Meeting Bun!

CAUTION! Some of you are acting really foolish and are engrossed in nit-picking. May I suggest that you spend the energy fighting the works of the enemy and not each other, as it is a waste of resources. This is as foolish as those who insist that their position on the Rapture is the correct one! Stop the infighting or go somewhere else. The enemy is manifesting, so focus on destroying his works, his deception, and his end-game, not each other…. L.A.

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Sunday Go To Meeting Bun!

Mat 1:23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Christmas is a man-made invention that centers around the Roman feast day of the Saturnalia. This was held near the Winter Solstice and traces its roots back to the ancient Babylonian false religious system. However, the United States of America declared it a national holiday and we celebrate December 25, as the birthday of Yashua/Jesus.

What we are celebrating is the virgin birth of the God-man, Yashua/Jesus. We are remembering that almost 2000 years ago the virgin Mary bore a son and His name was Immanuel, which translates God with Us! What is important for us to remember is that His incarnation changed everything, literally, as even the Calendar that we use today reflects His birth.

He came to destroy the works of the devil. He came to set the captives free. His birth was the long-awaited promise that one would be born who would crush the head of the serpent. While religion has in some cases obfuscated the good news, with the trappings of priests, robes, stain glass windows, bells, monks, pulpits, candles, nuns, stations of the cross, statues, and many so-called preachers on TV, who ask for $1000 seed donations, the simplicity of the good news is this, that Yashua/Jesus, died in our place and by His blood, that was shed on Calvary, we have been cleansed of all the little nasties that some refer to as sin. By believing in Him who was sent and asking for forgiveness we have eternal life. Think of it…. eternal life.

There are those who argue that the virgin birth is a myth. What they fail to consider is that this prophecy was written in the Septuagint – the Greek translation of the O.T. – 200 years before the birth of the Messiah! The most High God put it in writing so that there would be no mistaking what was going to take place. Jesus being born in Bethlehem, fulfilled yet another prophecy.

In closing todays Bun. It seems that some of you are arguing amongst yourself. May I suggest that we all take a deep breath and relax and spend some time with our families. I am going to take next week off. I need a rest from all of this and I want to recharge my batteries for the coming New Year.

Acceleration Radio will be fresh and new on Wednesday night and our guest will be Dr. Preston Bailey. It should be a good 2 hour interview. Last week SKYPE was down and so I had no way of posting the show. I will ask Frank, our producer, about the archives.

May all of us be blessed and ponder, in our hearts the reason for the season, the birth of the saviour, our redeemer, our blessed hope, Emmanuel…


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  1. Barack Obama to make UFO announcement in coming weeks?

    Michael Cohen

    All News Web has received information from government insiders close to the US President that Barack Obama has been given the go ahead to make an important ‘off ther cuff’ announcement regarding UFO visits and US contact with aliens.
    Allegedly DARPA has given this move the green light. The comments by the President will be made within the next month.
    Our sources claim this will not be outright admittance of UFO visits and contact with aliens, however the comments will come as close to admittance as any President has to date and will be made in the context of a speech on an entirely different matter.
    From what we understand The President will concede that there is ‘some evidence’ to suggest aliens might have attempted to contact Earthlings.
    All of this is said to be part of a warm up program leading to eventual outright admittance of knowledge of UFO and alien visitation by major world governments within three years.

    • “A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gate is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.'”
      — Cicero, 45 BC

      Speaking of Quotes…!

      When I read this almost two years ago,boy,did I think it could be said of what we see currently!

    • My favorite quote is by Mahatma Gandhi “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated”

    • Another great quote by Gandhi ““I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

      Can’t add much to that..sadly, its true much too often.

    • “If Christians would really live according to the teachings of Christ, as found in the Bible, all of India would be Christian today.”
      Mahatma Gandhi

    • To me,it says

      “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” (James 4:4)

      I’m just saying,…As for me,I wouldn’t step foot in a church like that.

      Interesting we have these different views,isn’t it?

    • Sandie please let it go…again. Please. All you are doing once more is telling everyone on this board what YOU would or would not do under the guise of “Spiritual guidance”…not “Judging anyone”.

      I will continue to pray that God will be glorified and honored through the voices seeking to be heard on his BLOG. As I have mentioned before it is very important to remember Paul’s principal of the helping the weaker brother in 1 Corinthians 8. We don’t need to cause our weaker brothers to stumble and even fall because we are adamant that we get our point across, no matter the victims that may lie in our wake.

      As you have done before you do now…divide the Body while pushing and pushing and continuing to push your views. Yes Sandie, I love you as my sister in Christ. If I didn’t, I would be 100% apathetic and never say a word to you. However, seeing you come here again with your cause(s), however noble in your mind, are the very thing by the nature in which you handle yourself, that causes the weaker brother to ask, “Why would I want to be part of Christianity when people act like that?”

      I know this because sadly I have been asked this of you. Brother Lynn strongly urged you to begin your own BLOG the last time you were here and you had caused such division and strife among the visitors of his BLOG that enough was more than enough.

      I urge you as your Brother in Christ that if you are going to continue your crusade to convince others like me that in my heart, I am not glorifying my Lord and Savior Jesus by freely choosing to honor His birth two days ago, PLEASE do so in a manner that is honorable to the Lord and not by coming across to those who are seeking Him and those of us who KNOW where we stand as extremely abrasive if not flat out flippant as your reply to LNL was.

      The Truth is you wear many of us out with your style of “Debate” even after the creator of this BLOG asked you last time to please do so no more. Yet you came back.

      Sandie, I don’t doubt the sincerity of your heart at all as I have told you before. And no, I am not a mouthpiece for Brother Lynn. However, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him because of how God has personally used him to help me understand things I have sought answers for my entire adult life. I speak solely for myself when I ask you to please, PLEASE stop this.

      The Body of Christ is not about contention in the ranks. That comes from the camp of the enemy of our souls and I have no doubt he is throwing a party watching what has been said and the manner in which it has been used to cause confusion in the Body…again.

      There are some here who presume to know my personal spiritual life and take it upon themselves to know more about my relationship with my Lord than I do and in doing so tell me what I should do as though they are the Holy Spirit themselves and coming across as though they are Hebrews 4:12 personified. I find examples like that extremely unfortunate as those on the outside of the Body who are watching this and can’t help but weep for them. They must be incredulous at what they have witnessed regarding a post about MERRY CHRISTMAS. Once again, it has turned into a circus. This sickens my soul to the core.

      Sandie, I am apologizing to you right now if I have offended you in any way and I don’t doubt that I have.

      Personally, I admit am passing judgment on your actions on this BLOG that was created by Brother Lynn because he had to ask you to leave the last time you were here doing the same thing you are now only on a different topic. In doing so, I know feelings can get hurt. I have no intentions to hurt anyone’s feelings including yours.

      The major problem I foresee with Brother Lynn gone for an entire week is that with the Cat is away, the mice will play.

      You are free to answer, have a rebuttal or whatever the Lord leads you to do as you well know. This is the last time I will address you personally on this matter because I will no longer be part of the divisiveness caused by this entire episode. You can have the last word as far as I am concerned because after what I say next I am done.

      I leave you with the words of Christ Himself from Matthew 9:13, “Go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

      Richard, I want to thank you for having my back earlier on in this embarrassing black mark on this BLOG.

      May God be with you Sandie and bless you and continue to bring to completion the work He began in you.

      In Christ,

      Jeff D

    • Jeff,

      Sandie posted Scripture.
      You respond with a long winded, personal attack against something which she did not even mention! YOU are stirring the pot.

      What you ‘argue’ against, is the Scripture she posted.

      If you have a problem with the Scripture posted, then take it up with the AUTHOR.

      You keep harping on about dividing the Body of Messiah.

      Y’shua did NOT come to bring peace and warm fuzzies – He came to bring a SWORD….to….DIVIDE.
      Divide what? There are MANY references in Scripture!
      The Wheat from the Tares.
      There are two seeds. Only two.
      We are told repeatedly throughout Scripture, in various ways (so it will eventually sink in) that we are NOT to mix the two seeds.
      We are to be set apart.
      We are to live in the world but not be of the world.
      Don’t mix fabrics.
      Don’t act like the world.
      Don’t worship Yah like the heathen worships his idols because it does not please Yah.
      And the list goes on.

      Matthew: 10
      34Think NOT that I am come to send peace on earth: I CAME NOT TO SEND PEACE, BUT A SWORD.

      35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

      36And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

      37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

      38And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

      39He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

      40He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

      41He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward.

      42And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

      If you genuinely believe Sandie is your sister, then be loving to her or leave her alone. ESPECIALLY in light of the FACT that your response had NOTHING to do with her comment you responded too!

    • The only people who are not bothered by their conscience are those whose conscience are sealed to truth! Both religious and secular brain washed folks whose every breath is directed by the “power of the prince of The Air”. Oh, it comes from the four corners of the earth permeating the Soul by Death.

      what is so hard to understand about Christmas being a worldly holiday with pagan origins?. We are in the world but not of it! Get real people “There is a way which seems right to a man but the end there of is destruction”

      Don’t we want to offend priest, pastor, neighbor! Tolerance of the unholy is SIN, compromise of truth is SIN. Jesus was offensive and Yet to the Father He was a sweet aroma! OH lord Smell me. “Ye shall be Holy as I am holy saith the Lord”.

      Worship in the context of the Word Is ‘to recognize great worth’ That is what the world does on the 25th of December they extend that worth by decorating a Tree……. Please!!!! Let us just love one another on this special Day. Good will to all! Tomorrow we all go back to the normality of our selfishness.

      john b

    • Great video, thanks Late Night Lisa. He makes a lot of sense. And he’s absolutely right. If someone wants to go down the road of distancing himself from anything that can have a supposed “pagan” connection then they might as well drop the belief in the Blessed Trinity. Because people have attempted to make the same type of connection regarding the Blessed Trinity and paganism as they have Christmas and paganism.

  2. Have any of you read “The Footsteps of the Messiah by Dr. Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum”?

    I’ve been looking more at what he presents as “The Fourth Empire”- “Diverse from all the others”. (Daniel 2) w/o going into a lot of detail (and he does provide ALOT of detail) The Fourth Empire (Imperialism) as listed in Daniel 2 is:

    1. The Babylonian Empire
    2. The Medo-Persian Empire
    3. The Hellenistic Empire
    4. The Fourth Empire
    a. The United Stage
    b. The Two Division Stage
    c. The Ten Division Stage
    5. The Messianic Kingdom

    The Fourth Empire as listed in Daniel 7 is:

    1. The Babylonian Empire
    2. The Medo-Persion Empire
    3. The Hellenistic Empire
    a. The United Stage
    b. The Four Division Stage
    4. The Fourth Empire
    a. The United Stage
    b. The One World Government Stage
    c. The Ten Division Stage
    d. The Anti-Christ Stage
    5. The Messianic Kingdom

    If you combine the two charts:

    1. The Babylonian Empire
    2. The Medo-Persion Empire
    3. The Hellenistic Empire
    a. The United Stage
    b. The Four Division Stage
    4. The Fourth Empire
    a. The United Stage (Rome)
    b. The Two Division Stage(current stage-East/West power)
    c. The One World Government Stage – (Dan 7:23)
    d. The Ten Division Stage (The 10 Kingdoms)
    e. The Antichrist Stage (Absolute Imperialism)
    5. The Messianic Stage

    I was looking back @ Dan 2

    “And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron, forasmuch as iron breaks in pieces & subdues all things’ and as iron that curshes all these, shall it break in pieces & crush.

    And whereas you saw the feet and toes, part of potter’s clay, and part of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but there shall be in it the strength of iron, for as you saw the iron mixed with miry clay.

    And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

    And whereas you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men, but thay shall not cleave one to another, even as iron does not mingle with clay.

    And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break into pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever….

    So…… The Ten Division Stage (The 10 Kingdoms) is the one which is part iron & part clay- they mingled themselves w/the seed of men. If we are thinking of Nephilium here – this mixture doesn’t appear to work together so well. The cohesiveness is lacking & there is weakness w/the strength.

    Then three of the 10 kings get put out & the eighth – the Anti-Christ arises out of them.

    “And as for the ten horns, out of this kingdom shall ten kings arise; and another shall arise after them; and he shall be diverse from the former, and he shall put down the three kings.” (*more details too in Daniel 7)

    Now the 10 kings are already stated to be diverse(Is this the mingling w/seed of men?) but something must be more different about the Anti-Christ because although the “10 kings” are stated to be diverse- The Anti-Christ is also diverse from the 10 kings.

    Anyway, I don’t know where I’m going w/this but I thought it was interesting.

    • Thankyou LNL,great video as well,I couldn’t agree more.I used to wonder about decorating a tree,I am in no way bowing to it or equate it with paganism,to me its pretty and festive and tells people yes I celebrate Christmas!

  3. Sandie; what many do not understand is that the Flame of truth burning in your heart is fueled by the Spirit of the Living God, a jealous God whose character of ‘no tolerance to the unholy’ is expressed in the Old testament of the Book. most of Christianity is churchianity.

    welcome Back.

    john b

    • John I dont where you were when Sandie ran through this web site like a bull in china shop during the rapture debate or where she was when she kicked herself off of the web site because too many people were un happy with her but I would hardly call what Sandie does through her opinionated blogs as the “Spirit of the Living God” John let me ask you “Does the Spirit of the Living God put people down, label them or what they do or judge them as Sandie does?” No I didnt think so.

      John I also hardly highly doubt that any one on this blog has any problem with understanding that Christmas as it was set up on December 25th and the additional items addeded to it as a worldly holiday has pagan origins. No One. However outside of discussing nephilim, bible prophecy and church. This is a “positive” God Seeking Chirst filled blog. People dont come her be negative or while putting others down. I came her to exhault our King and be positive on December 25th. I certainly didnt come here to put anyone down as Sandie has.

      John B I dont want to welcome anyone like that back

    • Richard said:

      “John I dont where you were when Sandie ran through this web site like a bull in china shop during the rapture debate or where she was when she kicked herself off of the web site because too many people were un happy with her but I would hardly call what Sandie does through her opinionated blogs as the “Spirit of the Living God” John let me ask you “Does the Spirit of the Living God put people down, label them or what they do or judge them as Sandie does?” No I didnt think so. ”

      Like you’ve been putting Sandie down, and accusing her and judging her?

      You really need to Let It Go Richard.
      And you MUST realise it is YOU who is keeping this going. Shall I quote something you wrote earlier – GOADING Sandie to reply to you? It dripped with caustic sarcasm and had not one ounce of love in it. Yah BLESS Sandie for refraining from rising to that bait. ANYone can scroll up to see that comment by you, Richard.

      In one post you welcome Sandie back.
      Then you contradict yourself in other comment, intimating she should go away.

      Again, Anyone only has to scroll and see your double-minded postings on this note.

      Let. It. Go. Sandie is NOT here hammering anything.
      She has graciously posted several DIFFERENT comments which have NOTHING whatsoever to do with the tired old thread (rapture debate) you & Jeff keep harping on about.

      ANYONE with eyes to see can see what is going on here.

    • Lisa’s Comments”

      She “Sandie” has graciously posted several DIFFERENT comments which have NOTHING whatsoever to do with the tired old thread (rapture debate) you & Jeff keep harping on about. Nothing Lisa Oh really?

      Sandies Comments: Which is why the “rapture” issue is so concerning to me…(since you brought it up!)…

      I think of it like this,what if I wasn’t already born-again,and I was just delaying making that decision to turn my life over to Christ. Suppose all my Christian friends and all their pastors were talking about this glorious event called the rapture,and how after they all disappeared there’d be seven more years to go before Jesus “really” returned. But,there’d be that second chance!… Seems like Rapture talk to me and it goes on?

      Lisa it’s the same old Sandie she hasnt changed. She has a comment, a label, a putdown about everything most of which is negative. I have no problem apologizing when I may or may not have made a mistake. So I dont understand your point. Lets look at some of Sandies points, labels and putdowns.

      Sandie’s comments:
      1.) While not doubting the sincerity of those who profess to love the Lord??? What????
      2.) I’m not here to judge anyone else for the way they worship the Lord ……….. but ……………
      3.) Why should my view of Christmas be any different? To Lynn,it’s just “diatribe”…to Jeff,”legalism” is a stench,…….? Isnt that judgement Lisa? And
      4.) Richard, but you seem like a very sensitive guy. Maybe a little unstable even? Isnt that jdugement Lisa?

      Lisa I posted the facts;
      1.) Sandie kicked herself off the website because people were tired of rude comments “True”

      2.) LA asked Sandie to start her own website because of her inappropriate comments, labels and name calling “True”

      If you want to defend someone with those perspectives and comments do so. I will defend LA and Jeff’s comments.

    • Richard,
      I wish you wouldn’t put a burden on Lisa when it comes to defending me.

      And if you’re going to quote me,how about doing it accurately and completely?

      1)”While not doubting the sincerity of those who profess to love the Lord,can anyone give any scriptural reason for celebrating the so very pagan holiday of Christmas? All I find are reasons not to.”

      2)”I’m not here to judge anyone else for the way they worship the Lord. My heart is convicted to not follow pagan rituals. Christ redeemed me,certainly,but not to worship as the world does,not to keep engaging in the secular things. That’s just how I see it.”

      3)”But,nothing I ever say is popular in this forum anyway. Why should my view of Christmas be any different? To Lynn,it’s just “diatribe”…to Jeff,”legalism” is a stench,…anything said that bucks the concensus here is met with a lecture about “love”…

      …So,is keeping Christmas Biblical,Yes or No?
      To me,if it’s not,why do it? Isn’t that simple enough?”

      4)” Richard, but you seem like a very sensitive guy. Maybe a little unstable even?”

      You ask if a statement like that is “judgemental”. As I said,based on your reading comprehension and how quick you are to attack me,it leads me to think you may be a bit unstable. That’s my opinion. I don’t have facts,only observations.

      And your comment about #3 is the same mistake you made before…you’re accusing me of being judgemental over comments that were made by others who were judging me!

      Maybe this will help?…

      “It seems that some of you are arguing amongst yourself. May I suggest that we all take a deep breath and relax and spend some time with our families.”

    • JOHN B…..

      In case you make it up this way again to check for updates,I forgot to tell you “Thank You” for the Welcome!

      Your sister in the Body of Christ,

  4. Wow this will teach me not to read comments a couple of days later I guess. Do you see how easy it is start a division yet? Reading over some of posts made me think aloud, “What would a young person seeing this site for the first time think?” and then I got an even worse thought. What would ANY person under demonic oppresion and foung this site through a link like I did many months ago think? I do not see a united front here guys. Satan’s army is not divided they are planning to maim you both spiritually and physically so why give him any more ammo? In any battle the best strategist seeks for weak points in the enemy defenses and it looks like we have a breach. Anyone seeing this for the first time let me tell you myself. THIS is not how this blog is usually, and let me emphatically state that not a one of the people behind the posts above would not help you in any way they could if you needed. Either theyve been hacked or something else happened, but this is not what was intended for you to see when coming here *atleast in my personal experience and I have visited twice a day for a long time*.
    Please guys come together or stay apart but these attacks have to stop there are people dying out there. THere are people being threatened with death out there. Demonic forces are attacking us right now and some have closed their eyes and ears and just opened their mouths instead. If this is a spirit of love I would hate to see some of you angry. GOD bless ya

    • God bless you too Faithful and thank you for your sound advice. I am grateful you have eyes to see our faults and call it what it is.

      In Christ,

      Jeff D

    • GOD sent me a waking dream yesterday. He revealed to me that all the underground bunkers the elite are planning to hide in when things get rough are not only for their safety. Those that truly worship satan are planning to hide in them to escape GOD’s wrath and even judgement day itself. That is the basis of my new nonfiction novel. I just finished with my other two books but they were fantasy and I felt I was part of the problem for giving others an escape into a world of magick rather than furthering GOD’s truth. SO he’s been putting it in my heart to write something that will further his word and reveal the stratagems of evil as well. BUT since I started this work I am under constant and I mean a scary constant oppression. Pleadings and rebukings drive it away but it is replaced within hours by others. PRAY FOR ME I must be doing something right!

    • Please know you have my prayers as I am able to empathize with you. With the calling God Almighty placed on my life, my precious family has been under constant, brutal attack from the enemy’s camp.

      I am no stranger asking for prayer on this BLOG. I can tell you there are great prayer warriors here who will gladly stand in the gap for you.

      You have my prayers.

      In Christ,
      Jeff D

    • thank you brother I do need them so. If you ever need help just click my name i have a small blog I write on when GOD really fills me and or sometimes I just try and inspire others to get out there and get their hands dirty. Too many couch potatoe Christians think that someone else will stand up for the weak and helpless but if you are there and see it happening its YOU thats supposed to stop it. Thats what I have always read and been taught at least. God bless ya

    • “I just finished with my other two books but they were fantasy and I felt I was part of the problem…SO he’s been putting it in my heart to write something that will further his word and reveal the stratagems of evil…”

      To see ourselves as part of the problem, is insight that only God can give and I sense that he really is leading you in this….I’ll be praying for you also Faithful.

    • I have posted a reply above under Late night Lisas Jeremiah 10 video, but it awaits moderation because I posted so many links (catholic encyclopedia and so on), that is why I just posted this video here. So anybody that is interested, scroll up and read the rest of my post when Mr. Marzulli clicks the ok button. Thanks LA, and for everybody here, I am not here to cause division with this, I am here to remind you that things that look to us innocent on the surface, can be very serious underneath.

      Revelation 2:20 (King James Version)

      20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

      Hosea 4:6 (King James Version)

      My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

    • I remember hearing this from a comedian on tv once.

      satan santa
      1. They have the same five letters in their name.
      2. THey are never seen in public together.
      3. They both wear wear read.

      Coincidence??? I think not!

    • I Agree, I don’t post to be divisive. However, truth can divide as much as it can unite.
      All i have done was shared my convictions about Christmas and i don’t say what i say lightly!
      it is with much Fear Knowing that I will be held accountable for every idle word spoken. I resolved this Fact years ago That speculations is no part of The Apostolic way of presenting truth.

      The reality of division already exists ‘Truth just brings it out into the open’

      It was not until Jesus came into contact with the Pharisee’s that the religious heart surfaced and Division became a physical manifestation. We all need to check our hearts. It is like i said Jesus is the head of the body Let us all seek his mind on the matter.

      I for one do not agree to disagree, because that is an ecumenical mentality which sooner or later will Lead the world into the worship of the beast and his image.
      So be careful what you say and how you say it.
      May the Lord lead us all into a greater understanding of truth and a sencere Love of Him and each other even our enemies Amen.

      john b

      John B

    • Your division is not within Christ’s teaching it is that of a wolf. If you tear at every throat that disagree’s with you soon you will have no one left to chew on. A bit of archaical thinking to go with that Sadducee your preaching there. I can bite too btw. But I stand above such reprobate things you are only antagonizing already bad situations. Your way is something that I stand against whole heartedly if thoughts like that ran this country every one would burn at the stake and If you wish I can quote scripture as well.

    • Bozz that video was very interesting. It makes you wonder why the church does not discuss the history behind it? I can only imagine because they fear losing their congregations. Thanks for sharing it.

    • No problem Richard. Lets to the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

      Catholic encyclopedia:

      Origin of the word

      The word for Christmas in late Old English is Cristes Maesse, the Mass of Christ, first found in 1038, and Cristes-messe, in 1131. In Dutch it is Kerstmis, in Latin Dies Natalis, whence comes the French Noël, and Italian Il natale; in German Weihnachtsfest, from the preceeding sacred vigil. The term Yule is of disputed origin. It is unconnected with any word meaning “wheel”. The name in Anglo-Saxon was geol, feast: geola, the name of a month (cf. Icelandic iol a feast in December).

      Early celebration

      Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church. Irenaeus and Tertullian omit it from their lists of feasts; Origen, glancing perhaps at the discreditable imperial Natalitia, asserts (in Lev. Hom. viii in Migne, P.G., XII, 495) that in the Scriptures sinners alone, not saints, celebrate their birthday; Arnobius (VII, 32 in P.L., V, 1264) can still ridicule the “birthdays” of the gods.

    • Hi Bozz,

      Thanks for quoting the Catholic Encyclopedia, it always seems to be a wealth of well-documented information. However, the Church herself decides what feast days will be celebrated regardless of whether a few early Christians had negative opinions about celebrating Christ’s birthday.

  5. There’s only one winner in what’s been going on at this blog recently and I didn’t want to participate for that reason.

    The Prince of the Power of the Air, Old Scratch, Lucifer, The Dragon, Satan.
    He wins.
    Because he can stir the enmity against one another. Drives away the weak and gives cause for the world to say that there is nothing to it, as we can’t even agree on the truth.

    Rather than sound preachy to anyone, I want to stay out of it.

    But a word….. ,
    You want to sound off?
    Then why not go into some of those UFO New Age sites and tangle directly with darkness?
    Our numbers are exceedingly small on there, compared to the enemy’s numbers.

    • Doug, It’s telling that some cannot agree on the Truth.

      There is only ONE Truth.

      Rest assured that Yah can move mountains to bring in His Sheep. He can use the most unwitting people or situations to speak to someone.

      We must be willing and ready to stand in His Truth when He calls us too. And generally it just isn’t ever found to be ‘popular’ or ‘loving’ – and certainly it’s rarely ever received with open arms.

      Please remember that Y’shua did not come to bring peace but a SWORD – to divide. I don’t personally want to argue or debate issues of doctrine with anyone. I’ve found that the ONLY way someone can hear the Truth on a matter, is BY the Ruach hsKodesh…so any straining on my part to try to convince, is futile.

    • I believe the sword was to divide believers from unbelievers, unless you are implying something else.
      But that’s it for me,because I can see you didn’t get my point at all in my previous post.

    • Doug,

      you said “we can’t even agree on the truth.”

      I stated that there is only ONE Truth.

      Then I followed up with encouragement in the knowledge that despite our flaws, Yah can bring in His Sheep through and despite ANY situation.

      As regards your statement ‘the sword was to divide believers from unbelievers, unless you are implying something else’….

      First, I want to be really clear okay? I try not to speak in ‘implication’ but rather try to speak plainly. Let me try again since we seem to be working from different definitions/understandings on what the ‘sword of Truth’ is.

      Remember, how Paul said his Spirit was willing, but his flesh was weak?

      Let’s try this…

      The Sword of Truth that Y’shua brought was not about separating the ‘sheep and goats’, or if you prefer ‘the wheat from the tares’ (that separation happens much later).

      The Sword of Truth is much more complex than that.

      Maybe Hebrews 4 will help explain better than my attempts:

      12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

      13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

      Does that help make my previous post clearer?
      I wasn’t speaking about ‘believers versus non-believers’. And if you read my other posts, you will plainly see I consider people here my brothers and sisters….so, clearly, I wasn’t speaking of non-believers. The Sword of Truth cuts our flesh – crucifies our flesh. We aren’t finished living in these earthly, fleshly vessels that are imperfect….

      If every believer were walking in the ONE TRUTH – then we would have no division.
      They would be UNDIVIDED – completely united in Him.
      This clearly has not happened yet.
      We have not arrived.
      Messiah has NOT come back yet.

      I do believe there is a restoration taking place now, however.

      This is ALL prophesied – so none of it surprises me.
      It’s a painful process of our flesh being crucified – dying to self, in preparation for Messiah’s coming.
      We can’t turn tail and run because people’s flesh gets pricked. We must stand ready to obey Him – and at the same time, stand ready to repent, apologize, ask forgiveness when we mess up. Until Messiah comes, it’s a continual process of us learning to walk in His Way and learning to LOVE our brothers and sisters….and let’s face it – it’s not easy.

      Hope that helps clarify where I was coming from with my previous comment.

      Incidentally, I DID get what you said in your previous comment. And I’m exhorting you to dig a little deeper.

    • John 4:23-24 (King James Version)

      23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

      24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

  6. To Jeff,and everyone reading this,’s unfortunate that some of you have chosen to focus the subject of “division” on me personally,as though it is my private agenda to come here and cause disruption. Do I shy away from confrontation? No,especially not if it means compromising the Word of God. (Ephesians 5:11 would be my only “agenda”,if one must be given!)

    When I began the topic of Christmas,I started off asking “Where is it Biblical?” That is my standard,and I would pray that to be the standard all Christians should stand by. Instead,I am declared too “legalistic” and “divisive”. Does anyone not see what kind of “attack” that could be,and from whom?

    Just like the video I commented on,again,not telling anyone else What to think,just saying what it meant to me,and it is judged as “extremely abrasive and flippant”.

    Let’s talk about that video for a minute…(the one above about the Christmas tree)

    It starts off saying there is no such thing called a Christmas tree. Naturally,it was before the birth of Christ,so if someone is looking for an actual commandment that says “No Christmas Tree!”,they wouldn’t find it. However,in the same context,he clearly identifies the tree as a symbol of idolatry,decorated and brought into the home.

    He goes to great lengths to exaggerate the difficulty in avoiding anything with pagan connections,putting having a Christmas tree on the same level as having a coffee table that may have been crafted by someone with pagan beliefs,because they both have something to do with wood?! (He just tries to imply how ridiculous it is to try to seperate yourself from the world…but should we not make the effort anyway,the best we can? No,he says to just sit down and have fellowship with it!)

    The more dangerous thing he goes on to say is that “Once you go down this road,…Once you start living by those rules,…” he says you’d have to go outside this world,and quotes 1 Cor. Ch.5,without going on to point out…

    “But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.”(1 Cor.5:11)

    Should we ignore this?… Corinthians 10:14 “Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry.”

    1 Corinthians 10:7 “Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry.”

    He tells people not to go looking for pagan connections in “ancient history books”,(like the Bible?),calling such stories “interesting,fanciful”?

    Instead,he tells us not to “throw stones” at those who choose to worship in this way. That,to me,is offensive,because it tells me that to exhort and warn a brother is not nice! Exactly the climate I am seeing here by some of you,and it tells me what kind of church you belong to! It would seem a very luke warm one.(Is this the same church that wouldn’t warn a homosexual that his actions are an offense to God?)

    It’s funny,in another related video that was accessible by Mike,called “God Told Me”,he says we are to meditate on the word of God,study His word and the precepts of Christ”. Does that mean we only hear what we want to hear,and that somehow we have the power to sanctify something God has forbidden and somehow that makes it okay? That blows my mind!

    In Luke,we are told not to run after such things as the pagan world does,but seek the kingdom of God. When we are with the Lord,do you think we will be engaging in pagan rituals? If not,why do it now? This is what is meant by coming out of this world.

    A little personal revelation here…a few years ago,I was a big pot smoker. You know what? I had plenty of ways to justify it,including that it in no way made me a less spiritual of a person,no less of a Christian. Would anyone here have told me I was doing something dangerous and deceiving myself in the process? I would hope so! Fortunately,someone did get through to me,and the word of God backed up that what I was doing was a form of “sorcery”,and though God loves me no matter what,by doing that and ignoring what God had to say,I wasn’t really honoring Him like I should. But should I have “sanctified it to the Lord” (not that I’d know how,exactly)?! How would I make that okay? (By the way,I gave up my years long dependence on pharmaceutical anti-depressants also!)

    How about when I used to be really promiscuous? Honestly,everything I did was out of love! I was just being “loving”! What’s wrong with that? Well,God doesn’t want me to be that way,and since then,I have settled down and gotten married,and wouldn’t dream of living my life like that again. How dare anyone judge me,right? Or wrong?

    These are extreme examples,but I’m telling you because I know how easy it is to be comfortable in doing things a certain way,and how easy it is to be friends with this world and still feel okay with God,but is it safe to rely on our feelings? Not at all. Whatever we do,in thought or in deed should be backed up by Scripture,and we should seek to be apart from our old selves and live life as we would if we were already with the Lord. If He lives in us,why would we continue to do things He doesn’t approve? Can you picture the Lord smoking cigarettes? Me either! Finally,I was able to seriously lay that down because above all I want to honor Him. And I want to prove that to Him by being willing to suffer and forego these worldly pleasures.

    We talk about the end being near,well,that’s what the warnings of Revelation are all about,to “Come out of her,my people!” You’ve heard it before. There are all kinds of deceptions taking place. UFO’s are only one of them. The spiritual deception calling you to relax the standards God has set is maybe most deceptive of all. The “emergent church” doctrine,or whatever it’s called,seeks not to offend anyone at any time. Isn’t that just like the Hate Crimes that make talking about the Bible’s view of homosexuality illegal in certain situations? Do you want to risk being on that wide path,or would you rather seek the narrow one? There must be some distinctions.

    Matthew 7:21-23 (King James Version)

    “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.”

    All I’m saying is,shouldn’t we try to find out what the will of the Father is,beyond a doubt,and work to do that which pleases Him?

    If you find fault with me,do so by correcting me by way of scripture. Is it me or the message that is divisive,and why?

    Honestly,I don’t want this kind of attention on me. As in the past,I am responding to charges of causing divisiveness instead of us focusing on the word of God. Like Richard trying to coax me into giving some kind of response practically in the same breath he just used to accuse me of responding too much!

    So,while I may apologize for the commotion this discourse has brought about,I do not apologize for my love of the truth and standing against the way this world is headed.

    • Sandie, GOD bless you and keep you! Thank you for sharing the truth and your testimony!
      I am praying for you and with you. I too said the sames things on another site.

  7. I wanted to add something to this “Christmas debate” that I’d never thought of/knew before. I caught a program on New Years Eve the other day and they discussed how the date the new year begins has changed from culture to culture and century to century. However, what I’d never heard before is that the reason the New Year begins on January 1 (instead of the end of March which is where the Roman New Year was for planting purposes) is because the early Church wanted to tie in the new year with the birth of Christ and the renewal of mankind He brought into the world and that is why Jan. 1 is New Year’s Day. I’d never heard it tied in with the birth of Christ before.

    That said, it would be great to get the definitive answer as to if even even matters if Christians celebrate holidays or if Saturday or Sunday Sabbath matters as long as it is observed. I personally enjoy a lot of the an made Christmas trappings. It’s fun to decorate the yard with lights, set up a Christmas village and a model train, and a Christmas tree is a very beautiful thing. It’s all fun and I don’t do it because of some mythical god or Satan or anything. I know it has nothing to do with the Birth of Christ, which I observe also and incorporate into all of the above decorations I mentioned. I have a Nativity set I keep up year round and I’m very proud of that. My first Christmas employed in High School I bought this and it is a daily reminder of what God did for me because He loves me so much. I have ornaments on my tree of the Nativity and even a nativity in my Christmas village. I don’t see these things at conflict but as working together in harmony.

    I think this is a debate much like the rapture debate where no one knows the right or wrong answer for sure but they waste a lot of time arguing about it Christ knows my heart and that I don’t do Christmas as a screw you to the Lord and I believe He knows where all men’s hearts lie. Anway, that’s my Christmas opinion.

    • Like for the rapture, the right answer for Christmas is all over the scriptures. But few understand and few truly follow. It`s like the verse “many are called, but few are chosen.” Remember, nobody is attacking Yahshuah/Jesus here, but the pagan customs that crept in unawares and because people have forgotten what the true meaning behind them is, they accept it …and then the atheists because of this say that Jesus Christ is also a pagan myth because everything else about Christmas is a pagan myth. Because they aligned his birthday that is mentioned nowhere in the Bible with the pagan deities of old. Does nobody understand this simple fact? We give them even more ground to attack us because of these lies that we accepted. But because the lie has been around for so long, people take it as truth and as harmless. Like propaganda and then people brain wash themselves.

    • Bozz –

      1.) I never said that the Christmas traditions are Biblical or that Dec. 25 is Christ’s birthday. It is the date that is GLOBALLY used to recignize this day.

      2.) No one has ever used the logic on me that Christ is a myth because of Christmas traditions. They’ve used a lot of other things to claim He’s a myth but never this.

      3.) I always ask this but never get an answer. Who’s to say that ANYTHING is a symbol of anthing? You can show that in ancient times there were tree related pagan things but the Christmas tree began in Germany a few hundred years ago. Where’s the connection? Just because both practices involve trees should we forever avoid trees? It’s like if a Satanic ritual is practiced in a house, should we avoid all homes? That is how this Christmas debate sounds to me. At what point can anything NOT be reclaimed in the name of Christ?

    • 1. It is the marriage of the church with the world.

      2. No one can use this on Christians with a discerning spirit, but they can use it on lukewarm Christians and on other people, but then again they are most likely predestined to do so (leave their faith – fall away).

      3. We are in a process where the world is accepting satanic stuff, thinking it is good. If the truth about a certain ritual fades away with time and therefore people accept it because they don`t know better, is it OK to go along? If a satanic ritual is practiced in a house, you should definitely not participate in it, unless you feel to combat it with The sword and cast your pearls before swine.

      Research history, watch the video I posted a few posts above, I am sure your discerning spirit will see the connection. Remember what Salomon said “There is nothing new under the sun.” And that is so true.

      Anything can only be reclaimed if it was His in the first place. This particular “anything” was never His. Passover is His, Pentecost is His, all the feasts of The Most High God are His, but this is not His. It is of His adversary who would like to be worshiped in His place.

    • Captain Eagle, you said:
      “3.) I always ask this but never get an answer. Who’s to say that ANYTHING is a symbol of anthing? You can show that in ancient times there were tree related pagan things but the Christmas tree began in Germany a few hundred years ago. Where’s the connection? Just because both practices involve trees should we forever avoid trees? It’s like if a Satanic ritual is practiced in a house, should we avoid all homes? That is how this Christmas debate sounds to me. At what point can anything NOT be reclaimed in the name of Christ?” end quote

      Abba, our Father get’s to say what is a symbol. He created everything.

      The xmas tree dates way back before Germany. It was known under different names. If you dig for the roots of the Tradition of the Tree – you will find the answers….and wa la….there are clues in the prophets. Here is one:

      Jeremiah 10:
      1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

      2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

      3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

      4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

      5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

      Please do read the chapters BEFORE – and then carry on with chapter 10 onward to see hints for the full context of what was going on back then, and carries on to this day.

      Old wine in ‘new’ skins.

      Just some observations:
      They cut down a tree, fasten it with nails (so it stands ‘upright’) – so it has the *appearance* of being ‘upright’ (righteous, good, harmless, etc.). Then decorate it just like people do today – with silver and gold.

      Yet, it’s a dead tree with no living water – separated from its root.

      It’s very interesting that Y’shua says He is ​​​​​​​like a tree planted by flowing streams; which yields its fruit at the proper time, and its leaves never fall off. The xmas tree can’t do that. Y’shua succeeds at everything He does, though.

      How blessed is the one who does not follow the advice of the wicked, or stand in the pathway with sinners, or sit in the assembly of scoffers!

      ​​​​​​​Instead he finds pleasure in obeying the LORD’s commands; he meditates on his commands day and night.

      Yah bless you as you work out your own salvation with fear and trembling as we all are doing.

    • Bozz –

      I once had the experience of spending an hour anda half at a Memorial Day picnic wityh a Wiccan who REFUSED to acknowledge ANY evidence on the fact of the Bible being true that I presented because he was convinced that the Catholic church just makes this stuff up with no evidence to support it/fabricates the evidence. He also told me that 9/11 never happened and that no one died in the trade center, they were CGI effects we saw on TV. This guy works for Homeland Security. When you have kooks like that out there who out right rejoice in sticking their heads in the and there are bigger fish to fry that “All of these Christmas traditions are myth so they will use that to tell people Jesus is a myth too”. They will say He is a myth regardless of Christmas traditions.

      You did not answer my question. I used the example of sin being commited in a house tainting all homes as being vile. This is what you are saying regarding any decorating of a Christmas tree. Trees were created by God so they are indeed His to begin with. Since Satan has been named the ruler of earth should we not do anything because the earth is is domain even though God created it?

      I’m on a dial up connection and unable to view video but I’d love to see what you posted. Can you sum it up?

      I actually have researched Christmas and have written extensively upon it. When we are doing Christmas in His name where is the paganism? You are only participating in Paganism if you assign that meaning to it.

      The vampire fad going on is different. Any fool can clearly see the satanism in it. Those who are embracing it are doing so willingly. It is not the same as wht you assert about Christmas.

      I have read these verses before but are you sure this isn’t the case of someone shoehorning in the modern Christmas tree (as often is done by Christians)? The Christmas tree we use today comes from Germany a few hundred years ago. It was not based on any of the pagan tree rituals from centuries before as many Christians and secularists assert. Thousands of years came between the two things. How is it one and the same when the motivations wre different and time between both things prove it was not a continuous practice? This is where I always failt to folow this logic. Had the Christmas tree been a continuous thing from 6,000 years ago till now I could see they are the same thing but when the pagan tree rituals of old died out and the modern Christmas tree took root only a few hundred years ago how are they the same thing? This is where I’m coming from.

      Are either of you aware that on the Star of Bethlehem DVD LA sells it says the Wisemen came on Dec. 25? I found that the most interesting thing since I’ve heard for decades that Dec. 25 has no connection with Christ at all then that DVD says this. It’s only interesting is all.

    • The video exposes the pagan background how they worshiped nimrod in babylon, and other pagan deities in Medo-Persia, Egypt, Greece, pagan Rome before Christ. They had their birthdays on dec. 25th because they all represented the worship of the sun. That` not all, they even did what is described in Jeremiah 10 (that those with itching ears explain away so foolishly). They believed that Nimrod will leave gifts upon the tree and so on. And we all know who lurks behind this pagan deities that wants to be worshiped. That is the video in short.

      So Constantine just put Yeshua with the rest of them to satisfy everybody in his empire. This is not right (as it is not even scriptural to celebrate His birthday in the first place). Suddenly it became “politically correct” to be a christian. But true christians soon found out there were strings attached. Pagan strings.

      Even the catholic encyclopedia states that the early church fathers did not celebrate Christ`s birthday. How could they, they interpreted the scriptures literally!Sola scriptura! Infact they even mocked the birthdays of the pagan deities and so on. But with the school down in Alexandria the attack on the Word of God began INSIDE the church. The school at Alexandria started alegorising scriptures with Rome (the Pope) playing its part, while the school at Antioch (Syria) said the scriptures have to be interpreted literally – guess who won the argument that eventually lead to the dark ages?

      I have researched this and what is interesting to me is this – that the worship of the birthday of Christ that lead to Christmas (Christ mass), apparently started at Alexandria. So says the catholic encyclopedia.

      I don`t know about the Wisemen part. Haven`t researched this yet. If it is true, great. If not, major fail, probably another attempt to make Christmas appealing to all Christians.

      Lets be honest, the christmas tree has nothing to do with Christ, in fact it resembles the masonic pyramid with the all seeing eye on it (the light). So if you do not assign a pagan meaning to something that was clearly pagan in the past, that does not make it pagan then? All that is, is the knowledge of its paganism has been forgotten in humans minds, but in God`s mind it`s still paganism. Something that he did not command to observe and Jeremiah 10 is crystal clear to me, speaking against today`s Christmas tree. I don`t know if houses are vile because of this (probably they are if we study the wrath of God), but they are certainly not in line with the Word of God.

      You can try to whitewash the devils world but you will not succeed. Only The second coming of Christ will do that effectively. In the meantime lets fight the good fight, lets run till the finish line.

    • Hi Bozz,

      First, the early Church did not operate by Sola Scriptura (which is nowhere taught in the Bible–see Acts 15) and here:

      The barbarian tribes overruning the Roman empire and helping to cause its collapse ushered in the “Dark Ages”. It was actually the Church and her missionaries converting the pagans that brought Europe out of the Dark Ages and fostered Christian civilization.

      The early Christians may not have celebrated an official Church feast day honoring Christ’s birth, yet of course an official feast day had not been established at that time. However, that does not mean that all the early Church Fathers had a negative view of recognizing His birthday. From the same article:

      “The earliest rapprochement of the births of Christ and the sun is in Cyprian, “De pasch. Comp.”, xix, “O quam præclare providentia ut illo die quo natus est Sol . . . nasceretur Christus.” — “O, how wonderfully acted Providence that on that day on which that Sun was born . . . Christ should be born.”

      In the fourth century, Chrysostom, “del Solst. Et Æquin.” (II, p. 118, ed. 1588), says: “Sed et dominus noster nascitur mense decembris . . . VIII Kal. Ian. . . . Sed et Invicti Natalem appelant. Quis utique tam invictus nisi dominus noster? . . . Vel quod dicant Solis esse natalem, ipse est Sol iustitiæ.” — “But Our Lord, too, is born in the month of December . . . the eight before the calends of January [25 December] . . ., But they call it the ‘Birthday of the Unconquered’. Who indeed is so unconquered as Our Lord . . .? Or, if they say that it is the birthday of the Sun, He is the Sun of Justice.”

      “Two feasts of Our Lord (Epiphany, Christmas) were added in the fourth century”

      God bless.

    • Brennan I am an ex catholic and the only thing I can say to you is, Revelation 18:4 is especially relevant for catholics. Somewhere here is my link about how Ciril of Alexandria started distorting scriptures. Listen to the sermons and make your research about the assertions.

      In Yahshua`s name, amen

  8. Wow did i miss alot.

    Jesus, the reason for the season.

    And also, for those wrapped up arguing, read 1 cor 4:3 and some after that.

    • Ok,Frank,I did,and here’s a little extra commentary on those passages. (Not my own,by the way.)

      “…Paul had a just concern for his own reputation, but he knew that he who chiefly aimed to please men, would not prove himself a faithful servant of Christ. It is a comfort that men are not to be our final judges. And it is not judging well of ourselves, or justifying ourselves, that will prove us safe and happy. Our own judgment is not to be depended upon as to our faithfulness, any more than our own works for our justification. There is a day coming, that will bring men’s secret sins into open day, and discover the secrets of their hearts. Then every slandered believer will be justified, and every faithful servant approved and rewarded. The word of God is the best rule by which to judge as to men. Pride commonly is at the bottom of quarrels. Self-conceit contributes to produce undue esteem of our teachers, as well as of ourselves. We shall not be puffed up for one against another, if we remember that all are instruments, employed by God, and endowed by him with various talents.”

      Hope that helps.

      Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 “The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil.”

    • Right, i think it applies across the board here.

      Basically my thoughts are that none of us should worry TOO much about such a demate and who’s right or wrong etc, because God is the final judge on the matter.

      We should try to be right, and correct untruth, but also not too combative

    • 2 Timothy 4:2 (King James Version)

      2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

  9. Over the weekend I got to listen to LA’s Coast show. I’m always amazed how George Noory KNOWS where LA stands on this stuff by now, having interviewed him numerous times over the years, yet he STILL panders the UFO angle EVERY CHANCE HE GETS. I applaud Noory for allowing LA to be heard, unlike some Coast guests with similar views, but he has stated in the past where he stands on the Bible (as has Art Bell) so we should know by now what angle Coast comes from and it mostly leads people astray who are not spiritually equiped to deal with this stuff. I personally only will listen if the guest is someone like LA who I know will have something interesting to discuss and wont go off on this silly new age rabbit holes. I’m so bored with that stuff that I rarely listen to Coast on those occassions and I used to have it on all the time. I hope LA and the other similar guests lead many people to Christ through such venues.

    Now, in keeping with the points Sandie has brought up. Should LA and others avoid speaking on Coast because we know it spreads New Age philosophies when they can win people to Christ who may not otherwise have heard the Christian point of view? Jesus was attacked by the church leadrs of His day for hanging around the sinners and His reply was you don’t rescue a man who isn’t drowning. One of the things you’ve said is that we should avoid the sinners and I’ve heard others say this as well (also adding that to be seen with a sinner will harm our testimony) but we were also told to spread the Word across the globe and we have Christ’s example of befrinding the nonbeliever and trying to get them to see the light. Issues like this leave me shaking my head because they seem so cut and dry.

    I don’t mean to attack, I’m trying to discuss why you feel that this is what God tells us and expects us to do.

    • Are you asking me what I think?

      I think Coast to Coast is a good venue for Christians to try to reach out from. It is good,especially because of all the new-age types that listen.

      (Please don’t take that Corinthians quote out of context. It is clearly identifying that there are those who will want to continue in those things,regardless of being advised not to. How could they know otherwise if not being preached to?)

    • Then how cannot Christmas be a similar venue for Christians to reach out to nonbelievers?

      Every Christmas and Easter numerous networks air programs attacking Christ. Why shouldn’t we use these times to share the TRUTH in an open dialogue on the matter? Since the world is focused on Jesus these two times out of the year then what better time to discuss the matter with no fear?

      At least for Christmas the whole world shut downs for one day. Have you ever noticed this? It’s really quite amazing but it’s like everything stops on Christmas Eve until the evening of Christmas Day and we get a glimpse at what Sunday used to be like generations ago. Christmas is the last example of this in the modern world. It’s like it’s the real deal. It’s also the one time out of the year non believers are most likely to go to church. Again I say, what better time to reach out to them with the Word of God? Use it as a tool to save them rather than as a shaft to divide the faithful.

    • I don’t post to be divisive. However, truth can divide as much as it can unite.
      All i have done was shared my convictions about Christmas and i don’t say what i say lightly!
      it is with much Fear Knowing that I will be held accountable for every idle word spoken. I resolved this Fact years ago That speculations is no part of The Apostolic way of presenting truth.

      The reality of division already exists ‘Truth just brings it out into the open’

      It was not until Jesus came into contact with the Pharisee’s that the religious heart surfaced and Division became a physical manifestation. We all need to check our hearts. It is like i said Jesus is the head of the body Let us all seek his mind on the matter.

      I for one do not agree to disagree, because that is an ecumenical mentality which sooner or later will Lead the world into the worship of the beast and his image.
      So be careful what you say and how you say it.
      May the Lord lead us all into a greater understanding of truth and a sencere Love of Him and each other even our enemies Amen.

      john b

    • If it wasn’t for coast to coast, I would have never heard of Dr Marzulli. So I would say yeah, it’s reaching Christians and non-Christians alike…

  10. Sandie’s position is compelling.
    I’m sure Moses, upon his return from receiving the Ten Commandments, was more than a little upset at the Israelites (and sojourners) worshipping the Golden Calf. And we all know what happened to Gods people when they repeatedly went after idols. This was meant to be instruction for US. Assimilation is never a good thing…
    Where are posters getting the idea she’s being judgemental? She is a bold and courageous sister, I’d say. Truth is better any day.
    I gave up Christmas years ago… Fleeing idoatry is the reason for not celebrating the season.

    • Thanks,Carol!

      …”Fleeing idoatry is the reason for not celebrating the season!”
      (I’ll bet that could be shortened or rewritten somehow to make a compelling Bumber Sticker!)

      This blog is starting to get a little cluttered up with so many posts.

      I’m gonna flee now and go out to shop for a new couch!

      Take care everyone,& God bless!

    • Where is Christmas the same as idol worship? One thing I enjoy the most about Christmas are Christmas films. It’s A Wonderful Life is a very uplifting film with some great Biblical values. A Charlie Brown Christmas is the same thing. Then you have some that are just fun like Rudolph and Frosty. I don’t know a single person who worships an idol on Christmas except those who obsess about getting gifts. For me it’s not about the gifts as much as about the Reason for the season and the trappings that go along with this time of year.

  11. Speaking about Moses…

    Bare in mind this video is made by a SDA, but it is very good. For the reason of the second part I am also posting this verse:

    Acts 15:29 (King James Version)

    That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

    • That’s what is so great about the SDA videos and teachings. I don’t think you’ll find a group that does more when using the Bible to explain itself. I think they truly bring glory to the word of God.

      Leave the SDA angle out of it,just listen for the truth.

      Thanks Bozz!

  12. Turner classic movies aired the original “Escape from Witch Mountain” and sequel “Return to Witch Mountain”, last evening. Did you know there was also a 1995 Disney remake for TV. If you watch it with discernment you will notice the “alien gospel”, Lynn has been warning about. Films like “Knowing”, “Cocoon”, “Taken”, “The Day before Disclosure”
    are prepping the public for grand deception.

    • I never cared for the originals and have nver seen the 1995 remake or the recent one. It always felt new age ish to me even as a child.

    • Purple beams of light are featured in the 1995 Escape to Witch Mountain. Why are purple beams mentioned on new age website and seen by more people? For instance:

  13. Wow I’ve felt more love at a … well almost anywhere! Sad, this used to be such a blessed place to visit. I always felt refreshed in spirit but now I just feel sick to see how well lou is working. Pray

  14. I apologize to Brother Lynn for helping to fan the flame on this BLOG his created. This has become a huge stain on the Body of Christ.

    I also apologize to any and all that I have offended. I ask your forgiveness as I have of the Lord.

    I personally will no longer take part in the dialogue on this BLOG due to the fact that Jesus Christ is no longer being shown His due Glory.

    Once Brother Lynn returns and takes back control of the BLOG he created, if the Lord leads and directs, I will return and seek to add any contribution I can to help further the purpose of why we were called here in the first place.

    May God Almighty have mercy on us all.

    In Christ,
    Jeff D

  15. Here is a link for a insightful bible study conducted by Joe Griffin. He talks about Alexandria, where satans attack on the Word of God began.

    This is the link who has all the other lectures on this issue. It is especially relevant for the catholics who come to this blog, listen from the lecture 324 and onward. You will learn the truth:

    Brothers and sisters, what amazes me is that the REPROVING, rebuking and exhorting, we are commanded to perform in the 2nd Timothy has such a negative impact on some. We strive to be the church of brotherly love, but lets not forget our duties. Lest I checked we are not a Rick Warren church.

  16. Lord Help Us!!!

    It is evident that there are individuals here on the blog that when “visiting” always bring contention with their comments. Perhaps by stating the above, I will be viewed as brining contention as well, that is not my desire. I pray for everyone that humility will prevail and not a haughty spirit.
    Perhaps if we direct the discussions in another direction, to other issues and ideas, just perhaps the dialog will change for the better. It is a shame that even though this blog is a place for sharing and praying and encouragement, after reading the comments on this particular post, it makes me laugh and cry. I’m not being offensive, I’ll be straight to the truth as others here say they are doing…it is ridiculous that you can come here to a blog and go on and on and on like that. That isn’t passion for truth and coming out of the world system…it is pure argument for argument sake. Grow up people. Walk in Love. Yes there is division, there is Holiness…but you are not Holy…you never will be until you are ressurected and see Him face to face. Have some humility and see Him, not just your knowledge of Him and His ways…see Him.


    By Grant Phillips

    I like to watch people. It can be a very interesting sideline. I’m sure that I too am included in others people-watching ventures, and they probably get a few chuckles from me also.

    There is one group of people within Christianity though who seem to be the self-appointed “You Can’t Do That Sheriffs”. They are those who have the church voice of a funeral home director, the sweet expression of dear old mother, a twenty pound King James Version Bible tucked under one arm (and properly positioned over the heart by the way), a menacing scowl glaring down that long proboscis, and the long index finger of Mr. Grinch pointing at the offending party. God forbid if you are the offending party.

    Before proceeding any further, I do need to make clear my position. I am not anti-church discipline. Actually, many churches today are lacking in church discipline. I will comment on this in the next paragraph. I am not for everyone just “doing their own thing” in their respective spiritual lives, because there is one guideline. It is called the Bible. There is one, and only one, we are to be like. His name is Jesus.

    Let me say concerning church discipline that there may be times that the church needs to activate church discipline when one or more of the members are out of line. For example, when members are fighting among themselves or gossiping, they are causing division within the local church. It needs to be addressed in a Christ-like manner. When members are living together out of wedlock, or coming to the services half dressed, it needs to be addressed in a Christ-like manner. But too many times, this turns to metamorphosis in reverse. Metamorphosis is the process where a butterfly changes from a caterpillar to a butterfly. The butterfly is beautiful. The caterpillar is ugly. Church discipline can be beautiful in the sense of keeping the local church going in the direction of Christ’s footsteps. It gets ugly when it is reduced to being a busybody.

    Now back to the self-appointed sheriffs, the busybodies. I am not sure if these people think they are God’s watchmen on the wall, or are just plain miserable and want everyone else to be miserable too. These long-faced, hiding in the shadows “Christians” are just waiting to pounce on any conceivable act that doesn’t fit in their rule book. Sometimes these dear folks seem so sad, rigid, and expressionless, one is tempted to drop an ice cube down their shorts to see if they are among the living. Come on folks! Christianity is not something to be uptight about. Christ has set us free! If Christ has set us free, we are free indeed! Get a life!

    Is there anywhere in the Bible that refers to these miserable souls? Try the Pharisees. Then ask, where should I start? I am reminded of the woman caught in adultery that the Pharisees brought to Jesus to condemn. They said to Jesus concerning her, “Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act”. I’ve always wondered where they were when they caught her … “in the very act”. Hmm.

    Jesus came to fulfill the Law and satisfy its requirement for punishment of sin. Only He could do that. He freed us from the Law and today we are not under the Law. The book of Romans is very clear on this. The Pharisees wanted to keep everyone under the Law. Modern day Pharisees (the self-appointed sheriffs) want to do the same. Jesus wants to set us free, but we can only be free in Him.

    Many years ago, a young lady I witnessed to, went to the church she normally attended and confessed that she wanted to be a Christian and follow Jesus Christ. They accepted her into their membership and immediately proceeded to inform her of all the things she would have to give up, change and add in order to be a Christian and remain a Christian. She informed me the next day, that they had gotten her so miserable and confused, she didn’t know where to turn. So we had to hit the Book (the Bible) again to show this dear battered soul that Jesus Christ had set her free, and that Jesus Christ is her guide, not these long-nosed Pharisaical in-your-face busybodies.

    I have lost count of the many times I have heard of some well-meaning Christian telling someone of the things they would have to give up, change or add in order to be a Christian. Ephesians 2:8-9 says, “By grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast”. Salvation is free and cannot be earned … period. Free means free. Also, if we have truly become a child of God by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, the same grace from God that saved us, will keep us from falling (Jude 1:24). As a baby grows in its physical body and mind, so will the newborn babe in Christ grow in their spiritual life. Will they sin? Yes (1 John 1:10). Can they ask forgiveness and be forgiven? Yes (1 John 1:9). Are they still God’s child? Yes (John 10:29-30). So do not permit the religious bullies to browbeat you into submission to their erroneous false gospel.

    Christians are not perfect. As it has been said by others, Christians are simply saved sinners. How should I behave as a Christian? Be yourself. Jesus does not want to change our personalities. He wants us to be ourselves, and as He lives in us, we will begin taking on His traits, but with our own personalities. Have you ever noticed that the more you are around someone, such as husband and wife, the more you become like them? However, you are still you. We do not have to put on a spiritual show to be a maturing Christian.

    Please notice as you read the Gospels, that Jesus did not condemn the tax collectors, the prostitutes, the cursing fisherman, the publicans, etc. (And He had a right to!) He forgave them. The Pharisees condemned them though, but the only ones Jesus condemned were the Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes (Matthew 23) … the self-appointed religious sheriffs of that day.

    Another way, for example, that some Christians today seem to gage others’ spirituality is by curse words. They brag about the fact they do not curse, and of course, all the other things they say they do or do not do. Pride however, is a greater sin than uttering a curse word (Proverbs 6:16-19). (Now let me interject that I am not saying let’s all start cursing [“cussin” for us hillbillies] since pride is a worse sin.) The point is, being a Christian is not how often you “cuss”, the clothes you wear, the make-up you don’t wear, the length of your hair, and all the zillion other things that are laid on people. Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ. He accepts us where we are and in whatever condition we may be in. If we need cleaning up (and we all do), His water is pure and sparkling. As we grow in Him, He will clean us up. It is not my duty or ability to clean you up spiritually, or yours to clean me up spiritually. We cannot do that anyway.

    So how should I behave as a Christian? Should I speak with a sad, broken-hearted voice? Should I look like I just swallowed a lemon? Should I act like a clown at a circus? Should I act one way in the local church gathering, but another in public? Where do we go from here? Be yourself, wherever you are. Spend a lot of time with Jesus in prayer and Bible study, while ignoring and praying for the embalmed accusers. Lighten up. Relax. You might just enjoy being a Christian.

    Grant Phillips

  18. I think he nails it right here with this one:


    By Grant Phillips

    …A Christian would have to be living on another planet to not see that we are definitely living in the Laodicean church age. Many church groups have some or maybe all of the attributes of the seven churches, but definitely the predominate attribute of the church age today is wholly Laodicean.

    …It is not to say that all church groups today have left their first love or are lukewarm concerning the Lord, but those who still love Him and obey Him and reject the things of the world seem to be few and far between. Basically, they are very hard to find. Most, yes I said most, church groups today exude as about as much “true” Christianity as a pagan social club….”

  19. As I arrived at work tonight, I found this from wonderful encouragement from a friend:

    Psalm 84:1-4

    “How lovely is your dwelling place,
    O LORD Almighty!
    2 My soul yearns, even faints,
    for the courts of the LORD;
    my heart and my flesh cry out
    for the living God.
    3 Even the sparrow has found a home,
    and the swallow a nest for herself,
    where she may have her young—
    a place near your altar,
    O LORD Almighty, my King and my God.
    4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house;
    they are ever praising you.”

    My GOD, my SAVIOR, and my KING; worthy is your name! From generation to generation your Love has arrested judgment. Now, “The days of Noah” have arrived; judgment begins in the House of God. As judgment increases, men’s hearts will fail them because the Righteousness of God comes as fire.


    Run from your sin into full fellowship with the Holy Spirit; prepare your heart for the KING!

    Holy is HE, The HOLY ONE, the Glorious One, Jesus Christ is about to take center stage.

    Amen, Amen and Amen!

    In Christ,

    Jeff D

  20. Excellent Comment at the top of the page LA .Something we all need to consider. Thanks for posting the Larry Taylor interview I only caught the last half. Gonna listen now.

  21. High, LA and blog contributors.

    I am familiar with your work, LA. I find your views interesting. And happy belated birthday.

    My wife introduced me to his blog. This is my first entry. Though I am now a Christian, I spent most of my adult life as an agnostic. In light of my personal background, the entries I have been reading here have been–how shall I put it?–entertaining.

    For example, the lengthy quote from Grant Phillips (76) seems to be little more than an “ad hominem” tirade with redundant negative attributions against a group of “Christians” with whom the author disagrees. Though I am not completely unsympathetic with the point that hypocrisy and judgmentalism frequently emerges within the church and makes the Gospel appear ugly, Phillips does little to clarify or define this problem. He simply creates an unflattering category into which he places those with whom he disagrees. It is by no means clear what point of view he is actually attacking; his disdain is the only thing he manages to make clear. Quite a disappointing performance!

    As a teacher, I have taught the subject of logic–both informal and the sententional calculus (mathematical logic). I would urge Sandie, Jeff, Lisa, Richard, and few others to take some courses. There are even Christian resources on the web you can find (e.g., that give clear explanations and examples of fallacious argument.

    The reason I make the suggestion is that argument requires discipline, else it becomes little more than petty and emotional sniping. I have already found a good deal of new material to use the next time I am asked to teach apologetics. So please let the sniping end, else some of you will find God assigning angels to separate your seating positions as you ride through the Millennium.

    Just an old teacher’s opinion–backed up with a comprehensive understanding of informal and formal fallacies. Have a good day.

    • Excellent!
      I find it interesting that in all the quoting of scripture, this one was missed (or ignored):

      “One person decides that one day is holier than another. Another person decides that all days are the same. Every person must make his own decision. When people observe a special day, they observe it to honor the Lord.” Rom. 14:5-6


      “Why do you criticize or despise other Christians? Everyone will stand in front of God to be judged.” v. 10


      “Welcome people who are weak in the faith, but don’t get into an argument over differences of opinion.” v. 1

      I am saddened by the fact that after L.A. appears on Coast, divisive elements pop up and create antipathy when hundreds, if not thousands, of new people seek out his site. This was a demonic attack, and, instead of recognizing it, many of the regulars jumped into the fray.

    • Rose – You nailed it! Can you imagine someone coming to this site for the first time and what do they find…. those pesky Christians arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of pin…. absurd…. It’s one of the reasons I’m trying to take some time off to get away and recharge my batteries. It’s going to be one hell of year and I mean that literally…. L.A.

    • You might carefully peruse the usernames. For example? There are two different Lisa’s posting here. I stand by what I’ve said.

  22. Few Christians are aware that they have become promoters of the biggest commercial brand of America. In 1930, the Coca Cola Company created modern day santa and used him to sell soft drinks.

    If you do not believe me, take a look at this official site. of the American commercial major.

    Before 1930, only a few Catholics paid attention to this Vatican approved “saint”. His name was Saint Nicholas, and He lived from 270 A.D to 343 A.D. His feast was on 6th of December, and had nothing to do with the ancient celebration of the birth of the Messiah Jesus.

    The Claimed holy man “Nicholas” who lived 1700 years ago. Few, if anyone outside of the inner circle of Catholicism celebrated the fast of “Santa Nicholas” before 1862 A.D. Than Thomas Nast “invented” the image popularly recognized as Santa Claus. Nast first drew Santa Claus for the 1862 Christmas season Harper’s Weekly.

    To mix up “Christmas” with paganism was an American invention. The Coca Cola “santa” advertisement has been copied in billions. Today, images and physical copies of this hero of paganism is found in almost every Christian home on planet Earth.

    How did I become aware of this?

    On the 25th, I was blessed with a visitor who work at the management level of Coca Cola Company.

    Shame on the claimed “Christian World”, who fooled us to mix up the birth of Jesus with “a Coke and a smile”.

    What not man have done, and is doing, to mock God of the Bible, Father, Son and Spirit.

  23. “Can you imagine someone coming to this site for the first time and what do they find…?..”-Lynn


    “Sandie – I’m growing weary of your diatribe. The rapture is plainly stated in the Bible. It’s there, period. Behold I shall show you a mystery. We shall all be changed in the twinkling of an eye. The dead in Christ will rise first and then those of us who are left will rise and greet the Lord in the AIR and be with evermore. I believe in the Rapture. It’s a real event. I’ve had a vision of it. Please move on to another topic as you’ve been beating this horse bloody.”- L. A.

    And then this:

    “…This is as foolish as those who insist that their position on the Rapture is the correct one!…”

    So,what do you believe? Incomplete,off-handed scriptural remarks accompanied by claims of a “vision”,or more detailed studies with historical references to the suspicious beginnings of said teachings?

    If this wasn’t taken to be a “Christian” site,I really wouldn’t have any problem with what is being said here,because I wouldn’t expect Biblical standards to be adhered to.

    I do believe there is another agenda taking place,but maybe even Lynn is deceived and doesn’t know it. At this point,his reputation and livlihood are based on what he has already declared himself to believe. Could he admit it if he was found to be in error?

    I have found so much wrong with the beliefs of “Futurism” and “Dispensationalism”…and this is what most of the mainstream Christian churches are selling the public. There’s no protection in number now folks,…You gotta search this stuff out and pray above all that God leads you to what He wants you to know.

    I know this isn’t what anyone wants to hear,and I’m sorry,but God tells us to snatch people away from evil,and I feel some of you are on a slippery slope here,Lynn included.

    “And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.” Jude 1:23

    • Hey Sandie – Frankly I’ve grown weary by your posts. Why don’t you go somewhere else with your ideas and comments. Good luck. L.A.

    • Sandie…your immaturity is showing greatly. Christians who disagree with you are not the enemies of God as you implied above when you quoted James 4:4…they are not going to hell and they have no need of being pulled out of the fire as you have implied by quoting Jude 1:23…and they are not guilty of apostasy or hypocrisy as you have also indirectly and so very subtly implied. Christians who disagree with us are merely people who have a different perspective of God’s word and some of those perspectives are more correct than mine, and yes…even more correct than yours. If people are guilty of any of those things it is not going to be because they disagree with you or me…but because they disagree with God.

      I find it interesting that people who are filled with pride ALWAYS attempt to have the last word and in the end, quite often attempt to make false implications concerning those who disagree with them…and you have made quite a number, not to mention trying to have the last word.

      I happen to agree with you concerning the rapture but not necessarily about Christmas, and I completely disagree with the immature way in which you approach both of these topics. The fact that you disagree with me about Christmas, doesn’t mean that you are the enemy of God or that you are an adultress. It doesn’t mean that you are going to hell and need to be pulled out of the fire or that you’re an apostate or a hypocrite. It simply means, as far as I can tell that you are someone who loves the Lord who has a different perspective than I do.

      You might keep that in mind the next time you encounter someone who disagrees with you and thus leave it to God to make any changes that he wants to make…for as I have discovered…he is well able to make them and quite often what he wants to change, is in me.

  24. One of the many things I’ve appreciated about this blog and the comments is the respect that people usually show each other. There are a number of Christian blogs/forums that I won’t go near anymore because of the pointless and constant mean spirited arguing.

    I’ve recently added this blog to my favorites, and have limited myself to lurking, since anything I would have to add is more than adequately covered by what someone else says.

    So I hope its ok for this newbie to interject her opinions.
    I think respectful debate is healthy and should be encouraged. And I also think it would be good to ban accusations, name calling, and using Bible verses to try and imply someone else’s opinion is ‘heretical’. Another rule about staying on topic might prevent people from dragging their pet issues into every conversation.

    This creates a lot of work for the moderator, unfortunately. Maybe a ‘3 strikes and you’re gone’ kind of policy would cut down on that? And after awhile, it would naturally become more self policing with regular posters telling others “sorry, we don’t tear each other down/use the Bible to beat each other up here”?

    Just my suggestions, which I offer in the hopes that this place will not be allowed to become like those other forums. I’m sure others have some great suggestions on how to prevent this?

    Steve Mc, I think your comments are very wise, and I especially love the last part about how God is more than able to change hearts and usually its our own He wants changed 🙂

    • Hi Annie!…Happy New Year and welcome to Lynns blog although it sounds as if maybe you have been here for awhile and sort of like me, do more reading than commenting.

      Your suggestions make sense but I hope it never comes to that and I suspect it never will for as you have probably noticed, if things become a little heated, people generally allow the peace of the Spirit of God to prevail.

      I think most also realize that God can be crystal clear when he wants to be but that isn’t always the case, not even in the Bible, because what better way does he have to get us to confront the pride in our own hearts than to have us discuss our opinions with those who disagree with us…that we might learn to consider their opinions. As the Apostle Paul says “For now we see through a glass darkly…” and I think that was God’s intention.

      God bless you and your family Annie in this new year.

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