October 13 – A Guaranteed No Show!

Commentary & Analysis


L. A. Marzulli

Here’s an update on Stanley Fulham’s booking on Acceleration Radio, that was scheduled for this coming Wednesday, October 13. I was contacted by his “agent” who informed me that Mr. Fulham was having health issues – he’s 90 years old – and would not be able to make an appearance on my show. With that in mind I have waded through some of his book and the content is very similar to what Blossom Goodchild and her channeled, Federation Of Light, “entities” told her.

The bottom line for me is this, it will be a no-show! Fulham’s, channeled entities are called, The Transcenders! They are supposed to be old souls who have evolved and are now monitoring earth. They are here to help humanity and according to Fulham, they will show themselves on October 13, via a fleet of giant UFOs.

I don’t believe any of this will happen. October 13, will come and go like any other day. There will be no mile-wide craft hovering over the cities of the world. This is a false flag, like the Blossom Goodchild prediction in 2008. I would point out, however that October 13, is the day of the so-called Miracle of the Sun at Fatima, Portugal, in 1917. 70,000 people gathered in a field and witnessed the sun spinning and falling to earth. However, researchers who went back and looked at the data concluded that it was not the sun, but according to many witnesses who were there reported seeing, a dull silver disc.

Jacque Vallee titled one of his books on UFOs, Messengers of Deception. We need to understand that these entities have a penchant for lying. They cannot be trusted. Combined with this is the warning we are given in The Guidebook to the Supernatural, i.e. the Bible, that warns of contacting, a familiar spirit. Both Fulham and Goodchild have made contact with what I would call a familiar spirit. These entities reside in the second heaven and they cannot be trusted, period. They lie and do so all the time. Unfortunately, both Goodchild and Fulham have been taken in by their respective, cosmic entities, The Federation of Light and the Transcenders. In short they are deceived.

What makes this really interesting to me is how a book like, Challenges of Change, suddenly appears out of nowhere and becomes an overnight sensation? In other words, this book has gone to the head of the line, so to speak, and has attracted lot’s on Internet Buzz. Forgive me for being a conspiratologist, but who is manipulating this and why?

In closing today’s post. I believe that we are being set up. This is another hype situation designed to take our eyes of what is really going on. With the earthquakes, floods, fires, droughts, locust plagues, BP oil spill, Hungary sludge, Marine die-offs, the coming Middle East war, volcanic eruptions, global financial instability, we have a lot more to concern ourselves with, than the false prophecies of disembodied spirits.


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100 thoughts on “October 13 – A Guaranteed No Show!

  1. well said sir.

    I am debating whether or not we should go and link this in the comments of Blossom’s blog. On one hand, they need to hear the truth. But on the other, they won’t believe it. Casting pearls before swine so to speak.

    • But, then again, we are commanded to proclaim the Truth to the world. We are just not to get worked up over them not accepting it. Chuck Missler brought this up in his study on Proverbs.
      “Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly” (Proverbs 16:22). We are commanded to declare the Gospel, not for them to accept it.

    • Good point.

      Maybe we should all drop some encouraging words of love and hope to her in the comments to her blog, to let her know that our God, is greater than the beings she communicates with.

      Anyone else game?

      Just google blossom goodchild blog, then go to the comments of her blog. Those folks need the love of Jesus, the real Jesus. Maybe if anyone is from a newage background, if you shared your testimony there, she or others may turn.

      Please consider and pray, let the Lord lead you.

  2. It is amazing how some people want to believe what is even a lie. On another site there was to be an appearance by “Conformers”. This time scheduled for 2017 with a flyover of massive ships.

    Even when it was pretty much proven a hoax and the instigator who wore Navy uniforms and all, turned out to be nothing more than a “stolen valor” phony, there are still some hangers on who believe what he said was truth.

    They aren’t happy with the way the world is going and who is.
    But turn to Jesus Christ, no way.

    Instead, it’s chase one lie after another.

    • Crazy Stuff…

      …..”They Smell The Blood Of Christian Men”

      ….”Ohh, your Muslim Thats OK”….

      Sounds to me as if it intells the monsters from Revelation.

  3. This all is a distraction indeed, but a distraction for a specific purpose. Like all the slow disclosure that has been taking place, this is to condition the world for when they do make their appearance.

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  5. I hate to repost, but I just wanted to throw this out there as a possible scenario. whether it’s benign or not, it’s still creepy looking


    I realize it’s not wise to say “aha, i discovered what the mark is!” but look at the pics and read about this, then tell me it’s not a possiblity.

    • I’ve been thinking about all the talk about the chip implants being a prelude to the mark an they may be. But the bible says it’s on the forehead or hand which leads me to believe that it’s on the outside and visible since it said on and not in. Just something to think about

    • Depends on which Bible you are reading. For instance…

      International Standard Version (©2008)
      The second beast forces all people-important and unimportant, rich and poor, free and slaves-to be marked on their right hands or on their foreheads,

      King James Bible
      And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads…

      I’d stick with the KJV,if I were you!

    • Oh I agree sandie but it still says a mark which usually meant something visible. I could be wrong i just always thought that because

      And he (the anti-Christ) causeth all, both small and great,
      rich and poor, free and bond,
      to receive a mark in their right hand,
      or in their foreheads: [Rev. 13:16]

      And that no man might buy or sell,
      save he that had the mark,
      or the name of the beast,
      or the number of his name. [Rev. 13:17]

      It would be the mark, the name, or the number of his name.

      It would be odd to have implants where some were a name, some were a mark(I’m guessing symbol here) and some were a number of his name

    • Be careful: don’t build a belief system on a preposition.
      King James was no friend to Christianity.

    • It’s not a belief system, just an opinion. But I will never take an implant of any kind and I’m not taking any mark either

  6. I don’t know if anyone has described this possibility before, but it occured to me while listening to Hal Lindsey last evening. First let me say that I firmly believe that the scriptures describe a pre-trib rapture. That is important to this scenario. Hal Lindsey described a movie being released on November 12th called “Skyline”. In this movie there is a scene where UFO’s appear over cities and anyone who looks up at them is beamed up into the ships. Hal described how this was such an antithesis to the rapture and the Lord telling us to “… look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near”. Luke 21: 28. My thought at this point was, what if the demons are waiting for the instant of the rapture and that is the point at which they will reveal the ships or “UFO’s”. The perfect explanation why so many went missing. They can claim all those who disappeared have been taken aboard the craft and in so doing the trouble makers have been removed. Hal Lindsey in his weekly show gave several instances of organizations and individuals complaining how the conservative Christians/Evangelicals are holding up the evolution of the planet. Again if this has been suggested I apologize but I just thought of the revealing and deception happening in this way.

    • Louie,
      I totally agree with you. So much so, that I actually sent a YouTube clip to LA on Saturday of Hal Lindsey’s show from Friday night and the BLASPHEMOUS movie “Sklyline”…”don’t look up” 11.12.10 release date.
      The “don’t look up” motto to the movie is the EXACT OPPOSITE, an antichrist spirit of sort, to being completely the polar opposite of what our LORD & SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST tells us in Luke 21:28 to “Look up…”.
      I believe strongly in the Pre-Trib Rapture myself, and I get tremendously persecuted for it. Its almost an oximoron – we want people to believe in the supernatural essence of the UFO phenon. & its great deception it poses, yet the same people who are prosletyzing the alien gospel throw stones at us for our belief in “The SuperNatural Essence of the Pre-Trib Rapture!” (1THES 4:17, REV 4:1, 1COR 15:52)

    • Sigh, I will present an opinion here delicately to try and side step a rapture debate. I believe there will be a fake rapture to start off with. This will be new age leaders who call upon acended masters. These individuals will be “raptured” aboard vessels that have decended over cities. This will accomplish many things. Christians who have been waiting for a rapture will feel forsaken and the apostacy starts, the demonic beings in control of this scenerio are pointing to new age beliefs as the “proper” religion and they will establish ambassador like relations so that we accept them as our friends. All of which is a lie, of course.

  7. There is so much wrong with the fact that so many believe in a Pre-Tribulation rapture! Doesn’t anyone do their homework? Doesn’t anyone want to know where and why this fairly new teaching came about?

    Wake up,people! The man of sin has already been revealed!

    Read this article,for starters,please. But don’t stop there. Let this light a new fire in your hearts for truth and learn how the gospel has been perverted and people are led astray. Your salvation might depend on it!

    No one knows for sure what TPTB have planned,with Project Bluebeam or whatever. It’s very likely alot of people will be deceived if they don’t know the truth.

    Believe me,when the Lord returns,everyone will know it. There will be none “left behind”,because the wicked will be destroyed by the brightness of His coming.

    If it makes you mad to hear these things,good. Be mad at me if you want,but see for yourself what is going on.

    The Pre-Tribulation rapture is entirely a cocoction of the (Antichrist) Catholic church in it’s counter-Reformation to the fires lit by Martin Luther.


    • Tell it like it is sister. False doctrine has been infused many times into many religions by Satan so as to turn us away from God.

    • That article is great. I have been told by God that the pope of Rome (not Ratzinger/Benedict, but Arinze) will be the man of lawlessness. It is interesting that the papel seat was a toss up between Benedict and Arinze last time. It will now be no suprise to the world when Arinze takes the seat. In fact, there are even 4 to 1 odds by gambling institutions that Arinze will be the next pope. However, God told me that this would be so, before I was even knew who Francis Arinze was. A lucky guess I am sure 😉

  8. Hate to add too many reference links due to the moderation process possibly interrupting this train of thought. I will quote from two different articles simply for anyone who is interested to google this for themselves.
    “In the Futurism system of Ribera and Bellarmine, Antichrist is an evil superman who emerges just 7 years before the end of time and causes all kinds of havoc.

    In the English speaking world, Edward Irving and John Nelson Darby further elaborated on this system by inventing a secret rapture 7 years before the end. They correctly taught that the Christians are restraining evil—in this case Protestant Christians— who will be removed from the earth before the Antichrist will be revealed. In popular literature it is called the Rapture or catching away!!”
    “…Of course, one important figure in this drama is Cyris Ingason Scofield (1843 – 1921), a Kansas lawyer, who was greatly influenced by the writing of Darby in 1909, Scofield published the first edition of his famous Scofield Reference Bible. In the much-respected footnotes of this Bible, Scofield injected large dose of futurism. Through the Scofield Bible, the Jesuit child reached young adulthood. The doctrine of future anti-Christ was becoming firmly established inside 20th century American Protestantism.

    The Moody Bible Institute and the Dallas Theological Seminary have strongly supported the teaching of John Nelson Danby, and this continued to fuel futurism growth. Then in the 1970s, Pastor Hal Lindsay, a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary, released his block buster books. The late Great Planet Earth. This 177-page volume brought futurism to the masses. It became the best seller all over the world, and has been translated into over 30 languages. Through the late Great Planet Earth, the child of Jesuit futurism became a man.”

    • Sandie I agree with you. Something just does not feel right with this whole pre-trib thing. Many of these preachers that also have their videos on youtube are constantly changing dates of the rapture and it`s becoming hilarious. I think the latest date now is November 4th 2010.

      However the word of The Most High does say in the Revelation 2:20-23

      20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

      21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

      22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

      23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      How do you explain verse 22? My view on end-time prophecy is this: It fulfills itself in fractals. If you are not familiar with fractals, google it to see what I mean. I mean the bible is full of prophetic numbers like 1260, 2520, 2300, 42, 7, 3and1/2, and so on and so forth…

      If you study prophecy you see these numbers full-filed in history. The spans that took for example exactly 2520 years or 1260 years or 2300 years. But I also believe the last 7 years are literal. Therefore literal 2520 days. A fractal of the whole 2520 year span now full-filed in days in the end time(latter days).

      I mean to me verse 22 looks like mid-trib rapture or pre-wrath rapture or protection Noah`s ark style. Looking from the post-trib view verse 22 can mean only 2 things: 1. we are supernaturally protected through the tribulation, 2.we are all dead because we were beheaded/killed before the wrath takes place, therefore we are not partakers of the wrath (the day of YHVH which some say is a whole year (obviously the last of 7 years)).

      These are my thoughts in short. I don`t believe in the pre-trib rapture, because it gives me a sense of false hope. My hope is Jesus Christ period. If pre-trib rapture is by any chance true everybody who does not believe in the pre-trib rapture but believes in Yahushua and obeys his commandments, is going. But to me pre-trib rapture is false teaching, although when you listen to Chuck Missler it sounds very convincing. We will see.

      I would really like to hear your view on the end time prophecy.

    • And anybody elses view on that matter who has a fresh mid-trib or post-trib perspective. We all know what pre-trib rapture is all about, but there is not one prominent teacher out there that teaches a post-trib view. There are some SDA`s on youtube who now approached it from the post-trib view but I lack a Chuck Missler type of preacher with a post-trib view (or mid-trib or pre-wrath or whatever).

      Here is a Prophecy club lecture from Stan Johnson – The truth about the rapture (See also on youtube: Ken peters – I saw the tribulation)

    • Also a thought on the antichrist. I believe there will be a literal end time antichrist (and a false prophet). The bible says there are many antichrists (even today many proclaim themselves to be Christ not just the vatican, which so obviously is in my mind the mystery babylon). but I believe there will be a literal end time leader who will lead the world astray. So the jesuit priests with their futuristic view in the counter reformation were right in a way. They just diverted the attention back then from the catholic church to the future end times which now are here.

    • Bozz I have NEVER heard a well grounded, highly respected pastor supply a date for the rapture of the church. Do you have any references? Im talking about pastors such as Billy Graham, John MacArthur, Dr David Jeremiah etc.

      You’ve almost answered your own question. Why are there no mid or post trib pastors?

      You state that you dont believe in the pre-tribulation rapture because it gives a false hope? Then why is called “the blessed hope?”

      One of the best supporting verses from the Bible for a pre triub rapture of the Church is found in Revelation 3:10.

      “Because you have kept my command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world to test those who dwell on the earth.”

      I dont think it gets any clearer than that.

    • Richard don`t get me wrong. I believe in the rapture, I believe in the blessed hope. But will it be pre-trib? I don`t really know to be honest, nobody does. Even Chuck Missler admits “this is what we believe (koinonia house ministries)” and then he cites other possibilities (mid, post) but tells why he believes pre-trib and it sounds very convincing. However what Sandie exposed is also true but what she/he failed to do is provide her own view on the pattern of the end times that is why I got involved.

      Yes, I agree with the verse you provide. I intended to put this one in also with the Revelation 2:22 that speaks clearly that those who repent will not be cast into the great tribulation, but I forgot. Verses in Corinthians(?) mention also something like “But that day will not come till the wicked on will be revealed…” From where I stand the wicked one gets revealed in the middle of the seven years when the falling away takes place.

      But the verses about the last trumpet to me seem as the last seventh trumpet and we know it gets blown in the end. That is why i mentioned two possibilities for this from my view.

      My intention was not to argue about the rapture but to discuss specific end-time events, opinions based on scripture, a response to my view of possible scenarios from someone else who also doubts the pre-trib view. I am just very curious about prophecy, because it fascinates me is all.

      I have watched a presentation on youtube called God has already measured time and there the pastor gives a date. I had some issues with the lecture and still have to study some stuff to expand my understanding.

  9. Christians may be “removed” alright,but it’s more apt to be by our government,who lists End-Times believers,Home-Schoolers,Patriots,and the like as Potential Domestic Terrorists!

    They don’t want anyone trying to educate those who would gladly go along with their plans because they are too ignorant to do otherwise. Besides,they know Christians won’t want to take anything they construe to be “the mark”,so what good are they to the NWO? They only want compliant “global” citizens. With their desire for drastic population reduction,you can bet Christians would be the first to go! We’re too “divisive”,”hateful”,and “bigoted” for their ecumenical world order.

  10. From Isaiah 8:20

    “To the law and to the testimony,if they speak not according to this word,it is because there is no light in them.”

    Search out teachers who are not selling this Jesuit lie!

    • No thank you. Been there,done that.

      The rapture was fabricated by Rome.

      Do you believe that the Catholic church is the seat of the antichrist,as did the Reformers? If you don’t,then you won’t connect the dots.

      “All Roads Lead to Rome”…

    • Dutchess I love rapture ready read it daily. They have great commentary. I love there news section. Try http://www.nuggetnetreview.com.

      Sandie you couldn’t be any further from the truth. Of all denominations the catholic church does not believe in the rapture of the church all together nor do they teach it?

      If you have references that the catholic church teaches the rapture in any form I would love to read it and share it with my catholic friends.

    • I never said they “taught” it,I’m saying they infused it into Protestant belief systems as a distraction.

      If you don’t think the church of Rome is a blasphemous harlot,check out some of those remnantofgod links,to see what they have said,in their own words.

    • OK Sandie here is a question for ya. Are you Catholic? Were you raised by Jesuits? Were you trained in Roman Catholic Dogma?

      I was; for many years. The Rapture is not a fable of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church did not fabricate this doctrine.

      The teaching of the Rapture is found in the Scriptures. Not worth explaining to you, I understand your position as stated. You are clear that you have been there and done that.

      Regarding Hal Lindsay, I was saved from Roman Catholicism through the writing ministry of Hal’s book, “The Late Great Planet Earth”.

      Just for giggles, I also graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary and your understanding of the history of this seminary is skewed at best.

      Even your knowledge of C.I.Scofield is off. Are you sure of your study and homework?

      Any dots that need to be connected are found in the Bible.

    • Like alot of “secret societies”,Rome has it’s own inner circle as well. Maybe on it’s face it’s acceptable to the masses,but it’s paganism is an abomination in God’s sight.

      By the way,I too,was encouraged to learn more after reading Hal Lindsay’s books,so I would say he offered me some inspiration. That doesn’t mean I accept everything he puts forth.

      As for Scofield,anyone can google “C.I. Scofield false doctrine” and do their own homework. I know enough to be highly suspect of anything he put his name to.

      The fact that you went to that seminary and embrace the same beliefs just supports what I’ve been saying.

    • Have you ever heard of a “red herring” argument?

      Revelation 1, 2 and 3 . . . the history of the church.

      Revelation 4 . . . Bingo, the church is in Heaven not to be heard from again in the Book of Revelation.

  11. Many of your brother & sisters in Christ have done their homework~read Gods Word – indwelt w/the Holy Spirit & still come to the conclusion that there is a catching up before the Hour of Trial which shall test men upon the earth. The test is before the wrath of God hits. Now if this fits neatly right before the 1st seal & is Pre Trib as currently taught is debateable. But so what if doesn’t fall into the standard pre trib model? As Christians we are rounded up , prisoned, and killed-so what? Christians are martyred all the time. If we die then we are w/the Lord sooner. That’s just the way it goes. I know God is with me and I’m not going to spend my days in worry over the NWO. The Lord is in control and that’s all that matters. We live by faith and follow Him.

  12. I don’t believe there is anything to “worry” about either,as God is in complete control,no matter what. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be aware and especially we should understand who the enemy is and how he operates.

    Sorry,maybe it’s my interest in the criminal justice field that just makes me want to investigate things a certain way.

    The enemy’s intent is to deceive,and I’d say he’s done a remarkably good job. We’re a far cry from the days of the Reformation.

    So,anyone who believes they should follow Rome,go right ahead. Free will,and all that. Don’t say you weren’t told!

  13. “Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act… And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things.” H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons. Nov. 11, 1895

    “Sunday is our MARK or authority. . .the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact” Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1,1923.

    And even these blasphemous words,coming straight from the mouth of the Beast,still don’t faze people,and they will continue to find reasons to keep going to church on Sundays!

    Personally,every day is a day of worship to me,but when Sunday Laws start to pop up in new ways,whose words will you choose to follow?

    And no,I’m not a “Seventh Day Adventist”. I am just a lover of the truth.

    • Pre-Tribulation is NOT a new concept – Ephriam the Syrian wrote of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture in AD 320! And I know that many men of GOD and watchmen on the Wall are Pre-Trib – so I’m not out in left field.

      Let’s see…there is the late Dr. John Wolvoord, Dr. J Dwight Pentecost, Dr. C.C. Ryrie, Dr. Chuck Missler, L.S. Chafer, Dr. Paul McGuire, Hal Lindsey, Dr. Grant Jeffrey, Dr. John MacArthur, Dr. Mark Hitchcock, Dr. Perry Stone, Dr. Gary Stearman, Dr J.R. Church…

      And this is exactly why I indicated in my previous post about the Rapture. Gosh, it seems that uttering the word “Rapture” gets more “fire-filled darts” thrown at me from the enemy than simply mentioning HIS NAME, “JESUS CHRIST”. That’s because Satan believes in JESUS CHRIST AS LORD & SAVIOR (Mark 5:7), he simply hates HIM. But, to mention “Rapture”, then Satan knows that its just that much closer to his eternal destiny in the Lake of Fire!

    • I agree, Bob. I am not a pretribber but calling it Satanic can be of a stretch. There are many godly pastors and scholars who embrace a pre-trib rapture. If any eschatological system is demonic, it is preterism. Preterists want to say that most of Revelation already took place and gives a false hope saying that there will be no Tribulation in the future right before our Lord’s Second Coming.

  14. Also, I don’t know who the Antichrist is. I certainly know the names of many antichrists (1JOHN 2:18)…and those who operated in “the spirit of antichrist” (1JOHN 4:3).

    In 2 THES 2:6,8, the apostle Paul wrote, under the Divine Nature of the Holy Spirit, that the church will be removed before the revealing of the lawless one.

    And I guess that if you include Dr Jack Van Impe as a Pre-Trib teacher, that makes my “short-list” of 14 men that I feel pretty comfortable with, but my trust, love & faith is in only ONE MAN, THE GOD-MAN, JESUS CHRIST/YESHUA HA MESHIACH, my HOLY & PRECIOUS LORD & SAVIOR.

  15. No,you’re certainly not alone in what you believe.

    If you can’t connect the dots then you either can’t see them or you don’t want to.

    I used to read and believe what Hal Lindsay taught,but try seeing things from a different perspective. Why accept them whole-heartedly? Why not try to see things from a conspiratorial angle for a change. They don’t call them “wolves in sheep’s clothing” for nothing!

    I guess if you don’t know what to look for,you won’t find it.

    Unless you don’t believe what the Reformers believed about the Catholic church? Then don’t bother and keep getting sucked in.

    Yes,I think they are all false teachers who preach what Rome decided to spread. They may have some good points,and they do lead many to Christ,but then what? Do you swallow everything they say,hook,line and sinker? Because if so,that’s exactly what they want!

    I know many here are swallowing it,too.

    Nothing I say will change your minds.

  16. The Catholic church INVENTED the Rapture (7 year) lie
    Rooted in Catholicism

    “The foundation of the rapture theory was laid over 400 years ago upon the specific orders of the Catholic Church. Every Christian needs to understand how this fabrication of error was designed to neutralize the great Protestant Reformation. If the facts of history were known by Protestants today who defend with such great emotion the rapture theory and the futurist antichrist doctrine, they would be horrified.Luther and his fellow reformers boldly identified the pope as the “man of sin,” and labeled the Catholic Church as the antichrist of prophecy. In response to those charges, the hierarchy assigned two Jesuit priests to develop counter-interpretations which would turn the onus away from the Catholic Church. In spite of the fact that the two men founded opposing schools of interpretation, their theories have survived to form the basis of most modern Protestant theology today. Not only did they effectively blunt Luther’s assessment of the papacy as the antichrist, but they cleverly divided and diluted the “protest” of all the churches which grew out of the Reformation movement.”

    Believe it or not.

    • Sandie , I for one don’t need any one telling me what to believe except the Word of God THE BIBLE…. And I’m happy to say in the KJV it clearly speaks of a Pre trib rapture . I hope that people on this site rely on the Holy Spirt to speak to them rather then get caught up in debating this anymore. God will deliver his church when the last soul is saved.. then the tribulation will come , then the tribulation saints will join us as they get killed for the name of Jesus.. Its all in there read your Bible. and yes I pray every day to be counted worthy and to escape the things that are soon to come on this earth, my hope is in my Father in heaven .

    • Yeah, this whole fuss over pre, mid, post, etc, etc. left me thinking that I just want to stick with what the bible says…..nothing more, nothing less.

  17. It is too easy for all of us to get caught up in a spirit of spiritual knowledge and superiorty which only brings division and what comes across as a very angry tone and attitude at times. When we read things in various books, publications, tapes, websites, etc. it is easy to believe whatever we believe we are doing our homework on…however, the WORD of GOD is the only infallible source that we should be doing our homework on. If we really know the original, we won’t be duped by the counterfeit. God’s word plainly teaches a pre-trib rapture and there are many things regarding the church and her position in God’s plan, who we are, and what we are that is misunderstood that leads some to take scriptures out of context when interpreting endtimes events listed in various parts of the Bible. When the Lord comes with a shout and the sound of the trumpet for His bride, the church, the dead in Christ will rise first (receive their new bodies) and then we who remain will also be caught up in the air to meet the Lord and so shall we be with Him evermore. Note, the Lord will call us to Himself in the air, which is the 2nd heaven, where some believe the enemy is stationed until he is thrown down to earth. It is in “the air” where the Lord will catch us up, making another specticle of the enemy, showing satan His glory in His Body, the Bride, who will judge satan and his fallen angels…just as he made a specticle of satan when he was crucified and descended to sheol to set the captives free there. The Lord has His own timing for this, keeping the enemy off guard. There is no need for us to fight each other. Enthusiasm and passion for the truth is paramount, but our love of the truth must be in what we search out in His word and not lashing at each other with what we see as truth. Sharing is important, respect and love is the key. I think there are so many wonderful people who share here on this blog and I enjoy sharing myself as well. I hope we can all share, pray, and love each other and where we feel some are erring, we should pray in love and communicate in love. They will know we are His when we love one another. Amen?!

    • I guess if anyone wants to google the plentiful articles stating why “PreTribulation Rapture is a Lie”,they will be compelled to do so. If not,they can believe the other versions,which are easy enough to believe if that’s what you’re looking for.
      (I don’t see any “Get out of Tribulation Free” card anywhere in my Bible.)

      I’m not being hateful in saying these things. I may be blunt,but it is done out of love and concern. I’m used to being “divisive” though. I don’t follow the popular ideas I see all throughout mainstream Christianity today,and I warn others not to also.

      Sorry I can’t post little pink hearts around my posts to show how “loving” I am.

    • One thing we can certainly do is remember there are many lost souls who come to this BLOG from a plethora of backgrounds.

      When these lost souls who are seeking Truth (Jesus Christ) read the tone of which those who claim to know the Savior it is evident why “Christians” turn off so many who are searching.

      A house divided cannot stand and it certainly cannot win others to Christ. Disagreement is fine and helps sort out where error may be found but it is by our fruit that we are known.

      May our fruit be that of love. As Paul exhorts Timothy, “For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline.” 2 Timothy 1:7.

      I pray that through the power of the Holy Spirit given us that we love one another through self-discipline to hold our tongues that others may see Christ in us and not see our pride rise up in order to try to win the day for the sake of argument alone.

      May Jesus Christ be glorified in any area(s) where we agree to disagree and may those who are seeking Truth be shown the Cross through our love.

      Humbly in Christ,

      Jeff D

      And for those of you who are searching for Jesus Christ, I pray you will find comfort from this beautiful song by Dennis Jernigan who himself has a tremendous testimony. God brought him out of the lifestyle of homosexuality and He can do the same for anyone who truly wants to be set free. Be blessed.

    • If I see someone about to ingest poison,or go headlong over a cliff,should I just say “I love you”?

      “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34

      That is the sword of His truth. It divides people. The truth also sets people free.

  18. Is David Wilkerson & Carter Conlon pre-trib? I think so but I’m not 100%. Anyway my friend posted this sermon on another blog & it is really good.Revival is Coming and What It Will Look Like, by Carter Conlon- Oct 10 He had a vision in the 1980’s. Two prophetic markers have been occuring & the final one is almost here. It’s about the last hurrah before Jesus returns. A very personal message for the Body of Christ.

    In revelations 10:7 the Last Trumpet is mentioned, the significance of its sound implying that (the mystery of God is Finished); Let us keep that in mind as we proceed to determine where, in the end time scenario does the seventh Angel sound it.
    Revelations 11:15-18 The seventh angel sounded, revealing two events 1. the presence on earth of the Kingdom of our Lord (the Father), and of his Christ (Jesus) to be everlasting. 2. The judgment of the “dead” and Living, and the rewarding of Bond-servants, prophets and to the Saints.
    That seventh Trumpet of Revelation 11 is the same Trumpet Apostle Paul spoke of in 1Cor15:52 – 1Thes 4:16. There is only one Last Trumpet!

    These two scriptures have been misrepresented by many in the denominational net-works as referring to a pre-tribulation rapture of the Church.
    There will be “no secretive rapture” of anyone prior to the day of the Lord (His return in Glory) when He shall send forth his Angels with a great trumpet to gather his elect (saints) from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Mat24:31.

    In his second letter to the Thessalonians, which is an amplification of his first letter to them ; in chapter 1 vs. 7-10 we read; “when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven with his mighty Angels in flaming Fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus.—- and,the Apostle goes on to say the very same things written in Revelations11:15-18 above.

    1Cor 15, when read in its entirety represents the same scenario of revelations and Thessalonians, ref: that “God may be in all” Vs28, the Saints rewarded and death is no more of a reality upon the earth, It; being the Last enemy destroyed. Vs50-54.

    All of these things in culmination is (The mystery of God finished), that means “grace is ended’ at the moment that Christ is revealed from Heaven in Flaming Fire. meaning that, Gods plan of Salvation has come to an end, all to be saved will have been saved; Jews and Gentiles alike.
    Now is the Judgment of all men who have partaken in the “Mystery of Lawlessness” and of all ages past. the mystery of lawlessness has been at work along side and in opposition to the Mystery of God, which is (the mystery of Godliness). Mystery Babylon has been the prime mover in the progression of lawlessness, making the Nations intoxicated with the wine of her Fornication.

    Prior to that time of the end being manifested by the return of Christ, The man of Sin (the son of perdition) that false Prophet of Lamb like resemblance would have made an image (a replica) of the beast whose seventh head was healed (political power of the New world order) and cause the world to wonder at the beast who had come back to life, putting to death those who worshiped him not (the saints) (see blog New world order)

    The last Trumpet is eternity breaking into and being manifested in the world of men, revealing the salvation and judgment of God upon the nations (inhabitants of the earth), It is Christ coming into His Kingdom, Mat25:31-46, and his Reward with Him, rendering to each man according to their deeds Rev22:12.

    john B

    Read more: http://www.myspace.com/no_hell/blog?page=2#ixzz127ccgINr

    • Pre-trib, Mid-trib, post-trib. It is all theological Dung! There is the (((GREAT & TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD))) point Blank. if you are not His you will burn!

      John b

    • I can’t help but wonder just what is the goal for this doctrine to become so popular.

      I think it’s something more than just misdirecting eyes away from the Pope. More than the potential of millions to lose faith.

      Can’t put my finger on it,but there’s something more.

      Time will tell.

    • Beware of the “theological Stronghold”! pastor’s propagation. The daughters of the Whore are everywhere.

      What is your theology? None you say, Who is your pastor, which Babylonian institution was he trained in.

      Who appointed Him or Is it Her! it matters not these days you see , or do you think it matters?

      The remnant is outside the theological wrot, This stench of satan. His “unholy Leaven” permeating the Mind expressing itself By False Apostles, prophets & teachers.


      john b

    • Very nice info John b. I don’t think the bible would warn us of such persecution we will face and warn us of other things if we were going to disappear before it gets here. The tribulations would be a great test to many Christians.

    • Exactly!

      “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” Revelation 20:4

      Now that sounds like some Tribulation!

      “The Pope & Islam” http://www.remnantofgod.org/nl031031.htm
      There’s something to keep an eye on!

    • Do these same believers in PreTribulation Rapture even bother to learn about Revelations? Or is that not necessary to them?

      I’d like to know.

      “And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

      And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

      Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

      They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

      For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.”

      Revelation 7:13-17

    • not that I have any big stake in pre or post trib rapture, but Tim LaHaye in “Revelation Unveiled” brings some scriptural evidence for a pre trib. There is also likely tons of evidence for mid and post. I personally like LA’s Pan-Tribulation Rapture.

      Future Quake did a great show a while back about a conditional rapture, and that there would be several for believers. 1) for those watching and waiting for Christ’s return. 2) for those church folk asleep at the wheel, who then realize they missed the rapture.

      I’m not endorsing any view, just trying to help folks sort it out on your own. Check out the FQ one for sure.

  20. Pope Endorses “World Political Authority”
    July 7, 2009

    The controversial Papal statement comes just before a meeting of the G-8 nations and a scheduled meeting between the Pope and President Obama at the Vatican on July 10.
    Some in the media are calling it just a statement about “economic justice.” But Pope Benedict XVI’s “Charity in Truth” statement, also known as an encyclical, is a radical document that puts the Roman Catholic Church firmly on the side of an emerging world government.

    In explicit and direct language, the Pope calls for a “true world political authority” to manage the affairs of the world. At the same time, however, the Pope also warns that such an international order could “produce a dangerous universal power of a tyrannical nature” and must be guarded against somehow.

    The New York Times got it right this time, noting the Pope’s call for a world political authority amounted to endorsement of a New World Economic Order, a long-time goal of the old Soviet-sponsored international communist movement. Bloomberg.com highlighted the Pope’s call for a new world order with “teeth.”

    The Pope’s shocking endorsement of a “World Political Authority,” which has prophetic implications for some Christians who fear that a global dictatorship will take power in the “last days” of man’s reign on earth, comes shortly after the United Nations Conference on the World Financial and Economic Crisis issued a call for global taxes and more powerful global institutions. U.N. General Assembly President, Miguel D’Escoto, a Communist Catholic Priest, gave a speech at the event calling on the nations of the world to revere “Mother Earth” but concluded with words from the Pope blessing the conference participants.

    The controversial Papal statement comes just before a meeting of the G-8 nations and a scheduled meeting between the Pope and President Obama at the Vatican on July 10.

    Sounding like Obama himself, Pope Benedict says this new international order can be accomplished through “reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth.”

    The rest can be read here:

    • I recall this Papal Endorsement at the time. And think that this false Hope of an escape by many christians could be indeed destructive to one’s Faith when faced with

      “”What is happening”” where are you taking me? No No No the pope is he I believe truly , Honestly, I believe in the pope, I want peace with everyone, I am sorry if I offended, I’ll be a Good citizen, Please don’t kill Me. I

      John b

    • That’s one reason I love to read about the faith and the courage of these brave Reformers who really knew what they stood for and were able to die for their beliefs.

      What soured me from today’s “word-faith” teachers and their message of “prosperity” is that I want to learn more about how to stand under the worst tribulation I can imagine. I want to pray to constantly get built up,surrounded by His armour,to be able to have that same steadfastness of those martyrs who gave up their lives before.

      Rome’s core hasn’t changed one bit. Like the article above stated,they want a “new world order with teeth”! With the technology we have now,there will be no escaping those teeth either,not like during the holocaust,when some could survive in hiding.

      While I do think the mark will consist of a chip,I can’t get over the church saying that “Sunday worship is our MARK…”

      “…Saturday is “no longer” the worship day of God, only on Sunday can we become part of the body of Christ in the world, only by worshiping on Sunday can we avoid “egoistic isolation” and instead be united “in a great community…a universal community” becoming “related to everyone in the world.” (Meeting with Diocesan Clergy of Aosta, Address of Pope Benedict XVI, Parish Church at Introd (Aosta Valley), Monday, July 25, 2005.)”

      Have Sunday laws happened in the past? And WHAT became of those that broke them?

      …”Every man and woman shall repair in the morning to the divine service and sermons preached upon the Sabbath (Sunday), and in the afternoon to divine service, and catechizing, upon pain for the first fault to lose their provision and the allowance for the whole week following; for the second, to lose the said allowance and also be whipped; and for the third to suffer death.”!!! Laws, and Orders, Divine, Politique, & Martial For the Colony in Virginia: first established by Sir Thomas Gates, Knight, Lieutenant – General, the 24th of May, 1610

      Pope John Paul II Revives Inquisition

      “The thought of a revived Holy Office of the Inquisition would pacify some and offend others. Nevertheless, the “Holy Office” still exists. Only it’s name has been changed. Pope John Paul II has been instrumental in its revival. One may argue that this Ratzinger run agency is merely an attempt by the Catholic Church to root out communism or backslidden priests and their practices. However, with John Paul II’s objective to implement “God’s mandate” by creating a global church-state which will administer from traditional Roman Catholic theology, is enough cause for alarm. Malachi Martin has already stated in his book, “The Keys of this Blood,” that the pope will not tolerate any belief systems that oppose his, not on a civil or church level.” http://www.remnantofgod.org/beastword.htm#hate
      (It’s now called by the kinder sounding name:
      “Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith”)

      It’s my guess that these same preachers that teach the pretrib doctrine are not alerting their congregations to what is going on with the Catholic church and it’s prophetic implications! They can’t,because they answer to Rome themselves! No,they would rather point to the “future” antichrist,that no one will be around to identify anyway because they will have been “raptured”…???

    • But remember one thing Sandie. In the great tribulation the beast destroys the woman – mystery babylon. So we don`t have to worry about the pope in these last days but about the beast.

    • I hear many, many references to “Mystery Babylon” This phrase is only used once in the Bible and it’s “Mystery, (note the comma) Babylon….”. Rev 17:5. Doesn’t really clear up exactly what what the mystery is but it has an effect on how we seek the truth of it. I kind of think it’s the whole earthly system of economics, politics and religion put into effect by satan.

    • Sandie,

      You are way to argumentative and judmental. I’m quoting from the KJV:

      Jesus said, “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.” Luke 21:37

      I do believe that REV 3:10 has already been mentioned above as a Pre-Trib Rapture verse, as well as 1THES 4:17 & 1COR 15:52.

      “Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend” Proverbs 27:17

      And Sandie, JESUS COMMANDS us to fellowship with each other and I do believe that you stated in a previous post that you don’t even attend a church:

      “That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us…” 1JOHN 1:3

  21. Blossom Goodchild …really? I guess Summer Rayne was not available.
    I myself was thinking about a change.. Stone Canyon… has a certain ring to it don’t you think?

  22. could you upload the richard grund interview again or let me know where i can get it.thanx.

    Peace of our Lord Yeshua/Jesus to you.

  23. Tracking devices used in school badges
    Two districts are first in the area to use ID tags that raise privacy, security concerns


    Welcome to the police country…
    Home of the banker owned government and propaganda machine , where they pump fluoride in everything that we eat and drink to make nice people docile and nieve just as Adolf Hitler did to the Jews….
    Next stop , chips under the skin…

  24. Coast to Coast Oct 16th
    UFO Prediction:

    In the first hour, ex-NORAD officer Stan Fulham talked about his prediction that a fleet of UFOs would hover over the Earth’s major cities on October 13th. Fulham explained that he receives his insight from a “transcended spiritual group,” which consists of “very old souls who have lived on many different planets and spiritual realms.” According to him, the UFO visitation is because the Earth’s environment has been polluted beyond the point of human salvation and, thus, the ETs must intervene to fix the situation. Unlike other planets, where the inhabitants were allowed to pollute their environment to the point of mass extinction, the Earth has the “greatest emotionally energy of any planet” in the universe and, therefore, was granted this special aid from off-world forces.

    Fulham clarified his prediction’s timetable with new information that he allegedly received three weeks ago. Originally, the entities planned to appear over a plethora of major Earth cities on October 13th, 2010. They had no intention of landing or communicating with the planet, instead opting merely to make their presence known in gradually increasing appearances. This would culminate with an outright address at the United Nations in 2014 and then they would commence cleaning the environment in 2015. However, Fulham said, the ETs grew wary of causing mass panic with their original 10/13/10 plan and decided to just appear over New York City on that date. The reasons given for the choice of NYC was that it is an international city, a media stronghold, and that New Yorkers are “a blase people” who would be nonplussed by the appearance of a UFO in the sky.

  25. Steve Quayle has some scary future predictions

    At a restaurant in Twenty Nine Palms, I Met a High Ranking Officer. During the casual conversation, he revealed that he is with Army Psy Ops and is training Ukranians at the Marine base. Without prompting him and just listening, he mentioned that the base is sending many soldiers from the base to Kosovo for their own “training”. He showed a picture on his cell phone of the Ukranian Soldiers. They were dressed like the Police were at the G20 protests in Pittsburgh. Now the kicker, out of the blue he said that I had better be prepared for the internet to go down very soon! This officer was very nice and seemed genuine. The topics he was discussing were things that HE wanted to discuss without me asking him about them, and therefore I take it as legitimate. Why would he want to PsyOp and/or disinfo a civilian and complete stranger to him? So Ukranians (and other foreign troops) stay here in the U.S. while they send our troops to other countries. Just another dot to connect.

    I also got a bit of info from someone whose relative was in the military. They had snuck a peek into some large box’s of a large shipment, and said there were interstate closed signs and those injectable chips they put in the hand or arm. The info came from an ex military ranking officer. Ed

    Second Confirmation Just Received From FEMA Person-Use Their Colors: Basically hundreds of US Marshals are being ordered to “in service training” in another state and when they get there, they would have to turn in their issue firearms!

    Massive Helicopter Activity In Tuscon Area: There has been a lot of militarty activity in my area just North of Tucson. We are no where near davis monthan afb, and these aircraft are flying West to East and fairly low. Yesterday we had around 20 Ospreys fly overhead toward the Catalina mountain range. We have also had large numbers of Cobras, Apaches, Blackhawks, and F-18s. What is going on? I have pilot friends at the base and they are not saying anything. I am becoming quite concerned at the number of aircraft and frequency of flights in the past two weeks. NEO

    Law Enforcement Concern: I’m a 25 year police veteran in the Midwest and ex Capt.in the US Marine Corps. Nothing concrete has happened hear yet, but the system for this event has been set up. About two years ago, police in my area have all been issued new universal police ID cards (smart cards). All my police and Marine Corps training is on that card. Even the skills I learned as a Recon Marine. I was told all police are getting this new card and all this information will be in a federal data base

  26. Its as if there is a “coup” in the making after the elections when the Democrats lose large. The New World Order must be created before Obama looses all credibity with all foreign nations.

    Henry Kissinger Bildaberg member, Council on Foreign Relations member, Trilaterist, Club of Rome etc. said on March 13 2009 on Squawk Box “Obama has been groomed to head up the New World Order” What?

    At the Munich Conference on Security Policy on February 8, 2009 very few people in the audience laughed when U.S. National Security Advisor James Jones said to them: “I take
    my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through General Brent
    Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the
    National Security Council that exists today.” Could it be that most didn’t
    laugh because Jones’ remarks had some ring of truth. YES!

    The stock market is at 11,000 it doesnt look like its going to fall for any reason soon other than a terrorist attack.

    I think we are looking at a terrorist attack in multiple cities soon followed by marshall law and the creation of the new world order and the currency they have already created called the “Bancor!”

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