UFOs – The Alien Gospel – A frontal assault on what we believe!

Commentary & Analysis


L. A. Marzulli

The History Channels presentation of their 10 hour mini-series, Ancient Aliens, promulgated the theory that humans were seeded here by extraterrestrials. In conjunction with that is the idea that ET started our civilizations, created our religions, were worshipped by our ancestors as gods, and are now coming back, at this critical juncture in human evolution to usher our planet into a new age… And that my friend, in short, is what I have termed The Alien Gospel.

Here is what a recent post is saying about ET in regard to Israel, the Bible and Christianity.


In a dramatic development, The State of Israel has found time in between dealing with military and political issues relating to the region to declassify and make public its previously top-secret UFO files.
Israeli UFO disclosure has been widely reported in Russia and China but not in the English-speaking world, possibly due to the political influence of Evangelical Christians who might disapprove of such a development.
It is believed that Israel’s secret service, has had limited interaction with aliens via secret US government agencies. Historically however, Israel’s connection to aliens goes all the way back to the Old Testament, a book clearly full of UFO and alien input.
The Prophet Ezekiel was visited by an alien spaceship by the river of Chebar while in exile. Andromedan aliens have confirmed in modern times that these ‘ancient astronauts’ were indeed theirs and are still alive. Video footage of the event is believed to exist and has been seen by a select few earthlings.
Is such a dramatic development in the land of the Bible, Holy to three major faiths, part of an grand alien plan to reveal themselves to mankind: Thus spelling the end of Judeo-Christian faith as we know it? http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1199999380.php


The reason why I post this article is because it is a frontal assault on what Evangelical Christians believe. Notice the speculation that the reason why UFO disclosure was not revealed to the English-speaking world was because of pressure from Evangelical Christians? Where’s the source for this statement? Is the author making this up or can he present perhaps a scintilla of evidence supporting his outrageous statement.

At the end of his post he posses a questions: Is such a dramatic development in the land of the Bible, Holy to three major faiths, part of a grand alien plan to reveal themselves to mankind: Thus spelling the end of Judeo-Christian faith as we know it?

As Jacque Vallee states in his book, Messengers of Deception, these so-called extraterrestrials are masters of deception. I believe that they lie and deliberately obfuscate the truth. They are not creatures from another star system, but are in fact, the fallen angels, once again manifesting on the earth. When they reveal themselves it will cause a paradigm shift in most every person on the planet. This is what I call, the Great Falling Away. Others are pointing to the revealing of ET, as the above post states, as the end of the Judeo-Christian faith as we know it. Dr. Stephen Greer also stated this in his closing remarks in the Ancient Aliens program, and did so with unrestrained glee!

The ground is being prepared, and unfortunately most Christians don’t realize the frontal attack is mounting against what we believe. In 2nd Thessalonians, Paul tells us that before the man of sin – The Anti Christ – is revealed there will be a great falling away. The word he uses is the Greek work apostasia, which is where we get out word apostasy. (I elaborate on this in P. P. & S.) This begs the question, what event would cause millions of people to change their belief system? What event would cause people to switch their world view in an instant? The answer becomes clear when we read posts like the one I refer to here. When, not if, the so-called extraterrestrial presence reveals itself it will be overwhelming. The church has been viciously ignorant of what is about to confront it, head on. There are others beside myself that are trying to sound the alarm, but for the most part it falls on deaf ears.

We are told that The Fallen One will come with all signs and lying wonders, that even the elect would be deceived if that were possible, that men will faint from fear from what is coming on the earth, that unless those days were shortened no flesh would survive. When I see articles like this, it is like an electric shock to my spirit as I realize that there are those, like the author of the above post, who are waiting for ET to show up and save the day…. Deception, is here.

Arm yourself against the coming Great Deception!

Go to www.lamarzulli.net


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48 thoughts on “UFOs – The Alien Gospel – A frontal assault on what we believe!

  1. Interesting. They are trying to make it sound like a given.

    All I can say is, It’s coming and maybe sooner than we think. When the balloon goes up in the Mideast, it could herald the beginning.


  2. preach it Brother!

    You know, Dr. Heiser has a great debunking of the Ezekiel/UFO thing. In fact, he points out that what is seen is not a UFO, but the very throne of the Most High.

    I belive this is on his zitchin is wrong site.

    I would think that no one would believe this crap, the alien gospel, but I forget that I myself almost fell for it. I once thought, how do I know that aliens didn’t say they were G-d etc? I, a born again Christian had slacked so much in my study of the L-rd’s word and my walk with Him that I almost fell away and believed a lie.

    It is only because I truly sought the L-rd, and asked Him what the real truth to this UFO thing was. He led me to Dr. Heiser, which led me to Future Quake, which led me to PID, Russ Dizdar, Guy Malone, Joe Jordan and to here. The L-rd used many believers to show me various viewpoints of more or less the same opinion, and that is the liklihood that all of these “aliens” are likely not so.

    So if any believe that the average person in Church wouldn’t fall for the alien gospel, I would agree with LA that many will be deceived. If not by this, than by other false teachings like Dominionism. Who knows, these movements may combine, or perhaps they will be set up against each other to show a false return of Christ.

    Any thoughts on how this alien deception ties in with other things out there? (ie, the Black Awakening, New apostles, dominionism, new age, etc.)

    does it all mesh together somehow? how

    how do all of these things mesh together with prophecy?

    • You are right Frank. And Dr. Heiser is the one who really has the credentials for archaic languages. But the mainstream media keeps it suppressed. They go for the sensational and what they want to here.

      I am a born again Christian too who not always walked the way I should.

      What led me to the same resources you mentioned was that several years ago i started wondering about my faith and UFOs. I wondered what if they are actually demonic in some respect. I actually read a book back in the 90’s called “The Tell-Tale connection” from the World Wide Church of God. I may not agree with all of their beliefs, but it was this book that nicely tied occult and the UFO phenomena. It was the first time I had ever heard of John Keel and Mothman. The last chapter of the book touched on UFOs related to the demonic. It makes sense. They are ancient and old and have wisdom of the ages.
      I also got to thiking what if there are other wolds, but those inhabitants rejected God and embraced the fallen one and are demonic.
      Then I got on the computer about 8 years ago and googled “Aliens and Demonic” and was led to the alienresistance.com website with the same resources you mentioned.

      God Bless Brother,
      Jimmy Douglas

    • Hallelujah, i would guess that my experience is not unique then… Oddly, about 10 years ago, I was sure UFO’s were demonic, and then just looked the other way.

      Then I got lazy in my walk, attended church for social reasons, and as i misstepped eventually wound up looking at UFO’s again, except was almost taken in by the alien gospel.

      Luckily things turned out as they did, and I praise G-d for pulling me back and opening my eyes.

    • Here I go again, about to thread the needle about this alien gospel thing. No one has ever given me a, “hmmm, that is possible” node. For the most part when ever I post a comment, I usually halt any further discussion for some reason. I have put this up against scripture and it holds.

      I am not for any alien gospel. I agree that UFO/alien (even spiritual manifestations like Mary) are demonic in nature. That I agree with everyone on. I also believe these alien beings are the Fallen Angels. But here is where I drift off. Fallen angels from where? There are many occurrences in the old testament that point out that angelic connections have a physical craft type element to them. For example, a Seraphim has 6 wings, two that cover its head and two that cover its feet. Draw a stick figure with 2 wings coming down off the shoulder, two wings coming down off the head (have them touch the lower shoulder wings in the middle) and two wings coming up from the feet (have them touch the upper shoulder wings at the tips). You get a UFO shape!

      My contention is there is intelligent life out there. This intelligent life has free will just like we do. The ones who are for God’s will are what we call good angels and the ones who are for their personal will is what we call fallen angels.

      Just a little different take. Not any kind of endorsement of what L.A. defines as the alien gospel. I believe God created the universe, not some alien beings. And is still very much scriptural.

      Can anyone tell me where this doesn’t fit in with scripture?

    • Yes Jimmy Douglas!
      Here is a wonderful website with excellent DVDs by Lynn Marzulli,Michael Heiser,Guy Malone and many others.Each DVD is on a name your own price basis .Heiser goes into great detail over Ezekials so called UFO encounter. There are SOOO many wonderful DVDs there.I got everyone and share them with believers and non-believers.They all make excellent witnessing tools. The Marzulli lecture is a MUST HAVE……Enjoy and share this website,they as well as this website are so worthy of our support! Blessings to each and everyone of you…


    • HW,

      I applaud your line of questioning and deeper thought of the subject.

      So fallen angels, or angels of any kind; we are not told in any way how they were made, or really anything else. We can discern that they are originally from Heaven and reside with G-d. As far as I can tell, they are not said (in the Bible) to be from another planet. They present themselves before the L-rd in Heaven.

      To have access to Heaven, they cannot be physical beings. Even some of the fallen ones (see Satan in the book of Job) have access to the L-rd up to a set point in time.

      Does this make sense/address your concerns?

      Now, where I think you are coming from, and I cannot disprove, perse, is that you are saying that what the Bible calls angels, might more properly be called aliens, is this right? So let’s say there are aliens on Zeta Reticuli, or the pleiades, there are some good, some bad from both spots. the ones who point to G-d and Christ are good, the others, well, not so. am i right?

      If i understand what you are saying, I would say that is an interesting theory, one that i cannot disprove. That does not say I agree, nor disagree with you necessarily.

      The thing that makes me disagree, is that the angels usually tend to behave with spiritual, non-physical attributes (hence why they could present themselves to the L-rd in Heaven) This is not to say they cannot partake of physical activities.

      Am i off anywhere here? That’s my thoughts anyways, i hope this helps HW.

    • Frank, thanks for the insight. You summarized my position perfectly.

      This might be one of those, we’ll never know until we get there kind of thing. I see your point about presenting themselves to the Lord. We could parse that a number of ways to prove and disprove each others position. For example, God dwelled within Jesus and Jesus within God. Is this presenting Himself to God? Heaven may be a spiritual realm where your soul presents itself to the Lord and perhaps that can happen from any physical location?

      Not being argumentative, but just pointing out various alternatives. To be honest, I am less interested in trying to say my theory is right as I am trying to make sure my beliefs are scripturally sound, because I do not wish to follow false doctrine.

      Also, something else that is very interesting to consider. There is a unison of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, the Holy Trinity. Angels also partook of this overlapping of God and themselves. For example, an Angel spoke in the first person and took credit for the interactions of Moses and the Isrealites with the Lord (Judges 2). This effectively stated that the Angel and the Lord were one and the same. Perhaps when one is connected with God through the Holy Spirit AND performing God’s will (not our own) then we become an “Arm of the Lord” or a physical manifestation of the will of God. To make my self clear, they are NOT God, but become an instrument of God, which becomes indistinguishable from God. Hence the Angel speaks in the first person.

    • I would give you some credit if indeed it was an angel spoke in first person and took credit for the L-rd’s doing in Judges. That would be, IMO, an angel being G-d’s mouth piece, the way the prophets were. the prophets also speak in first person when speaking for the L-rd.

      I can’t say how scripturally sound your thoughts are, i think we’ll just have to wait and see. I would say nothing outright heretical, but heading into dangerous waters. again, IMO.

      I will say, that I do believe there is ET life out there, but that is a whole ball of theological worms.

    • One thing to consider; Is all Magic slide of hand or created illusions!

      The Fallen angels have far superior power than Man’s little tricks. The manifestations of UfO crafts in the Natural realm with its Lights, smells & sounds is the magic of Fallen angels.

      We should also consider That Lucifer was The “covering Cherubim” and that it was a Third of the Cherubim type angels That fell with him. That would Fit the Ezekiel Vision of wheels of fire.

      Just a thought.

      John b

    • I just wanted to add my 2 cents. The angel that takes credit as being God is “the angel of the Lord”. He seems to be different from the other angels. Genesis 32:30 and Judges 13:22 show good examples of people’s reactions to Him. Many people believe this to be Jesus before He was born as a man.

      Jesus actually declares this in John 8:58. “Before Abraham was I Am”. If you re-read Exodus 3, you will notice that it is “the angel of the Lord” that appears in the burning bush. This angel may not be an angel in the sense that we speak of angels.

      I definitely believe that the spirit world is not so easily defined and human reasoning means very little when it comes to defining a world that we can’t observe or study.

    • Hi,

      The Holy Spirit manifests to us as Thrones / Ufos. You will see 14 and 15th century art with the Madonna and a THRONE in the picture. You will see a very ancient THRONE as a petroglyph on the Snake River in Utah. On the stone they did a pretty good job drawing it. There were 4 family members in Ohio one clear blue day. There it was in the shy. It was silent and sat perfectly still. It was beautiful. It was a gray/blue metal color with a shinning row of lights around the bottom. It looked like a round, bejeweled cushion in the sky fit for a KING. There was a top deck that had huge round portholes. They were jeweled colors, topaz, ruby, shappire, emerald,…and the four of us watched it. No OTHER VEHICLES STOPPED to look. It took me twenty years to realize that we had witnesses a THRONE of the LORD. I was so excited to see the petroglyph, the LORD is the same today, the same yesterday, and the same tomorrow. The HOLY men who drew on the rock used wavy lines to dipect the light coming from the lights on the bottom that were colored like a regular incandescent light bulb. It is impossible to draw the bottom of the THRONE and dipict the top and deck in one drawing. I cannot do it myself and neither could they. JUST ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. We were astounded. Those in power want us to fight the LORD and his angels when they return in the chariots. THE kids today will think it is an alien invasion. Those in power want to keep that power no matter what.

  3. this spiritual battle is really getting deep.good show last night.We are just beginning to see how far down the rabbit hole this thing is going!Interesting triangle UFO sighting video was recorded over Gulf of Mexico – Ft. Myers Beach, Florida on Sunday, 6th June 2010 (today) around 2:30 am.

    On 06/04/10 at around 2:30am A.J. Cummings a Bonita Beach resident, says he spotted bright lights over Lovers Key park located in Fort Myers Beach, Florida, he parked his car on the side of Estero BLVF and filmed what he says was a large triangular craft having several hundred feet above tree line over Lovers Key park


  4. LA….Look what “they” are hidding concerning this ‘big oil spill’…..

    It’s ON FIRE!!! Under the water…on the sea floor!

    Look at this video before it’s gone…gone…gone…

  5. Lynn,

    you say you cant read your E-mail and interview at the same
    time but you should since you play piano. Don’t You have to read
    two lines of music at the same time? I dont see how you
    can do it.


      Below you will find quotes from various sources by well known people in the UFO field. Not everyone believes that the entities that are associated with UFO’s are from other worlds.

      My findings confirm what I suspected a decade ago: a spiritual war is taking place on Earth. Alien expriencers and covert human experimentation operatives (CHEOPs) experiencers are right in the line of fire. Our immortal souls are spoils of war. Only by following God’s commandments can we ensure the survival of our souls. We must do unto others as we would have others do unto us. –May God bless all those who fight for righteousness and truth.
      -Unlocking Alien Closets- Leah A. Haley
      “I’m convinced that deception is the key to understanding the entire phenomenon. At every level, we are deceived and so we (1) do not know where to put our trust and loyalty, if anywhere, and (2) do not know what actions we ourselves should take to alter our relations with ETs. Most of what we see and remember (even in the first level of hypnotic recall) is not “true” or objectively accurate, I believe strongly, so we really do not know what the ETs are doing with us. And if they deliberately deceive us this way, how on Earth can we trust anything they tell us.”
      -Dr. Carla Turner- from Unlocking Alien Closets by Leah A. Haley

      [UFO] “behavior is more akin to magic than to physics as we know it…the modern UFOnauts and the demons of past days are probably identical… What is quite certain is that the phenomenon is active here on our planet, and active here as master.”
      Pierre Guerin, “Thirty Years After Kenneth Arnold,” in Flying Saucer Review, Vol. 25, No. 1, pp. 13,14
      “The symbolic display seen by the abductees is identical to the type of initiation ritual or astral voyage that is imbedded in the [occult] traditions of every culture…the structure of abduction stories is identical to that of occult initiation rituals…the UFO beings of today belong to the same class of manifestation as the [occult] entities that were described in centuries past.”
      -Dr. Jacques Vallee citing the extensive research of Bertrand Meheust [Science-Fiction et Soucoupes Volantes (Paris, 1978); Soucoupes Volantes et Folklore (Paris, 1985)], in Confrontations, p. 146, 159-161
      “We are dealing with a yet unrecognized level of consciousness, independent of man but closely linked to the earth…I do not believe anymore that UFOs are simply spacecraft of some race of extraterrestrial visitors. This notion is too simplistic to explain their appearance, the frequency of their manifestations throughout recorded history, and the structure of the information exchanged with them during contact.”
      -Vallee, Confrontations – A Scientist’s Search for Alien Contact,. P. 89
      “The ‘medical examination’ to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical or biological framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in shorter time with fewer risks”
      -Vallee, Confrontations – A Scientist’s Search for Alien Contact; pg. 13
      “Impressive parallel [can] be made between UFO occupants and the popular conception of demons”
      -Vallee: “Messengers of Deception;” pg. 15
      [UFO’s Can] “project images or fabricated scenes designed to change our belief systems.”
      -Vallee: “Messengers of Deception,” pg. 19
      “human belief…is being controlled and conditioned,” man’s concepts are being rearranged,” [and we may be heading for] “a massive change of human attitudes toward paranormal abilities and extraterrestrial life.”
      -Vallee: “The Invisible College,” pp. 3, 201, 204.
      “One theory which can no longer be taken very seriously is that UFOs are interstellar spaceships.”
      -Arthur C. Clarke, New York Times Book Review, 27 July, 1975
      “There seems to be no evidence yet that any of these craft or beings originate from outer space.”
      -Gordon Creighton, Official 1992 Flying Saucer Review Policy Statement
      “We are dealing with a multidimensional paraphysical phenomenon which is largely indigenous to planet earth.”
      -Brad Steiger, [cited in] Blue Book Files Released in Canadian UFO Report, Vol. 4, No. 4, 1977, p. 20
      “[The occultist] is brought into intelligent communication with the spirits of the air, and can receive any knowledge which they possess, or any false impression they choose to impart…the demons seem permitted to do various wonders at their request.”
      -G.H. Pember, Earth’s Earliest Ages and Their Connection with Modern Spiritualism and Theosophy (1876), p. 254
      “I [have] watched in dismay as a number of respected UFO researchers moved from a physical to a parapsychological interpretation of the bizarre UFO phenomenon….now I [too] am being forced to reexamine the UFO phenomenon in light of its apparent paraphysical nature.”
      -Raymond E. Fowler: “The Watchers: The Secret Design Behind UFO Abduction;” (New York: Bantam 1991) pp. xv, 183
      “Further, if one sets the three occult groups against the three classifications of UFO entities and their characteristics, it is rather surprising how complementary to each other they appear to be, not only through their appearance, activities, and level of behavior, but also in the quality of mental and especially, emotional reaction and response that has been noted to have occurred on contact”
      -Ivar Mackay: “UFO Entities: Occult and Physical,” in Flying Saucer Review, Vol. 16 Nos. 4 & 5
      “A large part of the available UFO literature is closely linked with mysticism and the metaphysical. It deals with subjects like mental telepathy, automatic writing and invisible entities as well as phenomena like poltergeist (ghost) manifestations and “possession.” Many of the UFO reports now being published in the popular press recount alleged incidents that are strikingly similar to demonic possession and psychic phenomena…”
      -Lynn Catoe, “UFO’s and Related Subjects: An Annotated Bibliography.” 1969 US Government Printing Office. (Prepared under Air Force Office of Scientific Research ; Project Order 67-0002 and 68-0003)
      John Keel observes, after studying literature on demonology that: “The manifestations and occurrences described in this imposing literature are similar if not entirely identical to the UFO phenomenon itself.”
      -John Keel: “UFO’s: Operation Trojan Horse (New York, Putnam’s, 1970) pg. 215
      “The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.”
      -John Keel: “UFO’s: Operation Trojan Horse; (New York, Putnam’s, 1970) pg 299
      “A working knowledge of occult science…is indispensable to UFO investigation.”
      Trevor James: “The Case For Contact – Part Two,” in Flying Saucer Review, Vol. 8, No. 1, pg. 10
      “Studies of flying saucer cults repeatedly show that they are part of a larger occult social world.”
      David Stupple and William McNeece, “Contactees, Cults and Culture,” in 1979 MUFON UFO Symposium Proceedings, pg. 49
      “Increasingly I felt as if I were entering a struggle that might even be more than life-or-death. It might be a struggle for my soul, my essence, or whatever part of me that might have reference to the eternal. There are things worse than death, I suspected…So far the word demon had never been spoken among the scientists and doctors who were working with me…Alone at night I worried about the legendary cunning of demons…At very least, I was going stark, raving mad.”
      -Whitley Strieber: “Transformation,” pg 96
      “I wondered if I might not be in the grip of demons, if they were not making me suffer for their own purposes, or simply for their enjoyment.”
      -Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p.172

      “I felt an absolutely indescribable sense of menace. It was hell on earth to be there [in the presence of the entities], and yet I couldn’t move, couldn’t cry out, couldn’t get away. I’d lay as still as death, suffering inner agonies. Whatever was there seemed so monstrously ugly, so filthy and dark and sinister. Of course they were demons. They had to be. And they were here and I couldn’t get away.”
      -Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p.184

      [1] Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;


      [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

  6. What I don’t understand is this.Many people claim also that we will have a false alien invasion.To bring about a New World Odor.Sorry I mean Order.So what is the truth?Are they real which is what I do believe.Is it both?The Bible does say we will be sent “strong delusion”with all lying signs and wonders”.Just curious where people sit on this.

    • I believe there will be a real alien invasion, but they will present themselves as our savior. I actually have had a turn around on this as I previously thought they would come as an enemy (which of course they really are). I believe this is L.A.s position as well. That they will come and tell us they will fix everything and therefore will become our substitute savior and push out those who believe in Jesus.

    • Hopeful, we just never know exactly what’s going on. We only know what the bible tells us. There are many scriptures in the bible that talk about things that can be conceived as s modern day UFO but in all those instances they were good beings. For all we know the so called aliens that do the abducting and cattle mutilations could just be trying to give alien craft a bad name so people would fear Jesus when he cane back. The UFO ls we see could be the lying signs and wonders for all we know. The bible does say though that demons abd the devil can masqurade as beings of the light and it says that Satan is the ruler of the skies so we just never really know. also I believe they can manifest even if they are spiritual because if not how did they mate with our women to create the nephilim abd teach people things God didn’t want us to know? Also the bible says God cast them out of their first estate which could have been on a spiritual plane or on mars or one of the many other planets. The bible says that lucifer is at Gods throne accusing us daily, but he also appeared and tempted Jesus in the wilderness. The truth is that we can’t begin to guess what powers angels, fallen or not have because it’s out of our comprehension and because God didn’t tell us in the bible. Anything beyond that is a guess. All we can do is pray, think for ourselves (not being a sheeple to ANY man) and have faith. No matter what the great deception is, will be very slick no doubt.

    • John.b, I may have given a false impression with my many theories and musings that I have it all figured out. I just enjoy the intellectual excercise (as I think we all do or we wouldn’t read this blog) of considering Jesus words. I do not have it all figured out and I agree with you, it won’t be something we can ever figure out on our own. Its probably even worse than that, in that we would shoot ourselves in the foot if we think we have it figured out, since it would probably lead us right into Satan’s trap through fears.

      Hence the importance of Jesus Christ. That is the one constant that never changes and we can depend on. No matter what the great deception turns out to be, the answer and solution will always be the same. Jesus!

      Anyway, was trying to answer Laura’s question, but I certainly hope I didn’t lead anyone astray to think that by figuring it out, that we can come up with a human solution that is anything other than Jesus.

  7. Frank,
    Would you plese claify what you mean when you say that the angels
    are not physical beings? Do you think they are only spirits?


    • Frank says, “The thing that makes me disagree, is that the angels usually tend to behave with spiritual, non-physical attributes (hence why they could present themselves to the L-rd in Heaven) This is not to say they cannot partake of physical activities.”

      I personally agree; heavenly angels can be as physical and normal-seeming as they’d like. We might entertain one without knowing. When they want to make an announcement, they are very overpoweringly impressive.

      The fallen angels are also very powerful; I’m unclear on how powerful, in relation to heavenly angels, but they are not for we earth people to trifle with.

      Demons are spirits of dead Nephelim, which are the offspring of fallen angels and human women. They cannot manifest physically at will; they need vehicles, like people who tried to hold congress with them for their personal gain. We need not fear them if we’re children of God and are sensible enough to leave ’em alone.

      If any of that’s wrong, it’s because I’m mistaken; feel free to correct my errors, please.

      Maybe that was helpful. Best wishes.

    • no worries,

      I believe that angels are spirit beings, but that they are allowed to take physical form when necessary.

      In quantum physics/”Flatland” (read the book flatland) let’s say you and I are 2 dimensional squares or circls or whatever. A person in the third dimension would be able to look down at us, like say when we look at a piece of paper.

      Angels would be say 3 dimensional beings. they can look down at us 2 dimensional folk, and interact with us. They could maybe even see inside of us. For the purposes of this demonstration, and not to limit G-d, but G-d would be maybe a 4th or 5th or higher dimesnion.

      So angels, 3 dimensional entities, are in a spot we can’t see them always. aka, the spirit world. They can choose to go and interact with us 2 dimension folk, but they are not 2 dimensional.

      does that make sense, or further muddy the waters?

  8. lynn,

    yes, i must agree that israeli disclosure is a significant development.
    just when you think its gonna come from one direction, it comes from another!

    do you think that the worldwide pressure being exerted against israel is in any way connected to this disclosure?
    we must remember that the leaders of israel attend the bilderberger meetings also,
    making the whole drama appear to be a bit contrived…

    ps i just wish that some of the commenters would try and stay more on topic? pleeeeeeeze? 🙂

    • I suspect its a single craft since the lights appear to move in unison. I wouldn’t be surprised if its a military craft of some kind.

  9. Lynn,
    It goes without say, through the thousands of years, man has rejected God for the very simple reason, that they don’t want to be accountable to a righteous and moral standard, that is led by pure LOVE.
    “Vanity”, and, “You only live once, so live it up”, has been the global moral mantra, since the dawn of creation, right back to the scene in the Garden.

    I am taking notice of words used in the Word of God like, ‘many, few, remnant, and those who are still alive. The gates are narrow into eternity, and open wide to those that reject the truth.
    Rest assured, as I speak in all humility, and with a humble heart, that there are those of us who know that “WE”, are the elect. By the blood of Christ, and the unmerited and warranted grace He freely gives to those who will just turn and ASK. For as Isaiah said before the Lord, “I am UNCLEAN”, and speaking for myself, I am unworthy to receive this Gracious Gift to spend eternity at the feet our HOLY CREATOR, GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and the Holy Spirit, he gave us, as he ascended to the Father.

    The Truth is a rebuke to what we think we know. And pride go’eth before the fall.

    Thank you for your work a Christs bond servant Lynn, it certainly has ministered to my soul.
    God bless you and your ALWAYS.
    Ken A. Buena Park, Ca

  10. Please take a moment to pray for Abby Sunderland



    Family and friends cling to hope that teen sailor will be found alive

    Abby Sunderland, the 16-year-old Thousand Oaks girl trying to be the youngest solo sailor to circle the world, lost contact with her family early Thursday in the southern Indian Ocean.

    By Catherine Saillant,, Los Angeles Times

    June 11, 2010


    Relatives and friends of 16-year-old Abby Sunderland, the Thousand Oaks solo sailor trying to circumnavigate the globe, were clinging to hope Thursday that the young adventurer would be found alive by rescuers converging on a remote area of the southern Indian Ocean.

    A massive international sea and air search effort was targeting an area 2,000 miles southwest of Australia, where Sunderland’s emergency beacons began broadcasting about 5:20 a.m. Thursday.

    The family lost communication with the girl a short time earlier.

    A Qantas Airways jetliner with dozens of harbor patrol spotters on board was dispatched from Perth to look for the girl. It was scheduled to fly over the search zone late Thursday to try to establish contact with the teen. The nearest ships were still about a day away.

    Abby was more than halfway through her quest to become the youngest solo sailor to circle the world. She had come through a day of 25-foot seas and 70-mile-an-hour winds, which tipped her sails into the sea several times.

    But in their last conversation with Abby, she seemed in good spirits, according to a statement by Abby’s parents posted on her blog Thursday afternoon.

    “The wind had subsided to around 35 knots [40 miles an hour] which she and [her boat] are quite comfortable with,” Laurence and Marianne Sunderland wrote.

    Abby has all the equipment needed to survive, they added, and her 40-foot boat, Wild Eyes, has airtight compartments and is designed to stay afloat and right itself if it capsizes.

    If the boat is indeed capsized, the first thing the pilots will see is a big red heart that Abby painted on the bottom around the keel, said Jeff Casher, a technical advisor and sailing coach to Abby. She said she painted it to make it easier for rescuers to spot the boat should she ever need assistance.

    Family members theorized that she was injured, the boat had rolled over or the mast broke, but that she was still onboard. They note that she activated two of her emergency beacons, indicating she was alive at that point.

    “If she can keep warm and hang on, help will be there as soon as possible,” her parents wrote.

    But time was of the essence. Water temperatures were in the 50s, waves were still 25 feet or more, and storms were still active in the area.

    Three French vessels were heading to the area from the territory of Reunion, off the African coast, but were hundreds of miles away.

    Charlie Nobles, executive director of the American Sailing Assn., said the Southern Indian ocean is known in sailing circles to be a challenge. “There’s just not a lot of land in that part of the world,” he said. “You have to follow certain patterns because you need the trade winds. Where she is right now is in between Australia and South Africa. There is no way to be close to land at that point.”

    Some had criticized Abby for leaving so late in the year. She departed from Marina del Rey on Jan. 23, later than she had wanted to because of equipment issues. She also was delayed along the way for repairs, which put her in her current open ocean run as the Southern Hemisphere storm season is approaching.

    Outside the family home Thursday, Abby’s brother, Zac, who sailed around the world alone when he was 17, was questioned about whether it was responsible for their parents to allow her to undertake the journey. He declined to comment, but Casher did address the question.

    “I was concerned going into this,” he said. “She’s 16, and she’s a girl. But she quickly disabused me of those notions. I know she’s tough.” One of seven children, with another sibling due any day, Abby is shy, Casher said. But she comes alive around sailors and on her boat.

    Speaking with The Times before she embarked, Abby said she had to put up with her parents “trying to scare me out of it.” Most families “just never would think about something like” allowing a minor to sail the world alone, she said. But she said she had been on boats since infancy, sailing came naturally to her and she’s wanted to make this attempt since she was 13. Criticism made her “want to do it just a little bit more,” she said.

    Her father, noting that the family is born-again Christian, told the paper they had carefully considered and prayed about the decision. He said he provided guidance, preparation and encouraged a spirit of adventure.

    Sailing the ocean can involve periods of “sheer terror,” he acknowledged. But ultimately, he said, “The Lord is in control of everything.”

    Early Thursday, family members and Casher were talking Abby through engine troubles. She managed to get the motor running again, according to her parents. But Casher said he lost contact with her at about 3:45 a.m., when Abby went to check on some equipment.

    Zac Sunderland noted that his sister had three emergency beacons on the boat, one of them on her life vest. Two beacons were activated, he said, but the third, a deep-water device that is automatically triggered in 15 feet of sea water, has not gone off, he said. That has bolstered the hope that Abby is with the boat.

    “It’s weird not being able to help and being at a distance,” Zac Sunderland said.

    All day Thursday the family was huddled inside their house in a “control center” equipped with a navigation station and computers. Abby’s parents were on the phone with the Coast Guard and search coordinators.

    Zac Sunderland was making calls to the island nation of Mauritius, which had a navy vessel about 400 miles — and two days — away from her location.

    Late Thursday, the vigil in Thousand Oaks was hanging on word from the Australian airliner that was scheduled to sweep over the target search area. The pilots were hoping to locate Wild Eyes and reach Abby via marine radio.

    The young skipper last communicated with supporters via a blog post Wednesday morning, less than 24 hours before she lost contact.

    She described coming through rough weather and being “pretty busy out here.” A respite had allowed her to repair a ripped sail. She signed off noting the weather and waves were stirring again.

    “The wind is beginning to pick up,” she wrote. It appeared she was facing 40- to 57-mph winds that night and gusts up to 70 mph, she said.

    “So I am off to sleep before it really picks up.”




    Times staff writers Al Seib and Robert J. Lopez contributed to this report.

    Copyright © 2010, The Los Angeles Times

  11. First of all, the author of that article never said Evangelical Christians were the reason for Israel’s reluctance in revealing UFO research in the English-speaking world. He or she wrote “possibly,” which is a speculative word used to denote a train of thought unsupported by evidence but containing some measure of logic. Since many Evangelical Christians see Israel as God’s little battleground and will do whatever they can to preserve a Jewish homeland despite the behavior of those Zionists who currently run Israel, it’s safe to assume they don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them.

    But then you go on to state that supposed extraterrestrials are “in fact the fallen angels” without providing a shred of evidence. Your “falling away” reference doesn’t cut it because it, like most Biblical writing, is far too cryptic.

    As you savior was heard to say…”Those who live in glass houses…”

    • C Nadeau; I don’t know whose savior you refer Too, The savior of the majority of people on this Blog never said anything about glass houses! However; He Did say and warn about those Who build their house on Sand, that when the storm comes it will collapse.

      He who has an ear to hear can see as contradictory as this sounds!


    • And sadly you spent your whole time obssessing over an incorrectly attributes quote while disregarding the fact that in one sentence I exposed the total lack of logic in this post. Predictible.

  12. I was just about to point out that for Christians to bleep out the name of their Lord and God seems a little deceptive to me!

  13. Great stuff guys!!!

    I’m in the middle of all this. The thoughts and possibilities are endless. I do think in Genesis, when Adam and Eve
    ate from the forbidden tree, they were enlightened with knowledge, but vanished from Eden. Now, is it possible that God
    does not want us to become intelligent. The more we explore and learn the the further away we get from Him.

    Also, on the same note, MAN himself has deceived us. Using the Word of God for its own agenda feeding on the mentally weak. For instance on the dollar bill; In God we Trust…… Hmmm, more like In Guarantee of Debt we trust.


  14. i recently had a psychotic episode to where i was amitted to the hospital for evaluation. the day i entered the hospital a woman with sorrow in her eyes praised me as if i were jesus christ, she was a nurse. i saw demons and angels during that period in time and god had told me that the demonic spirit i saw in the gay person that was in the hospital with was treated with shock theropy. god told me this through another persons voice and then that person said they don”t remember saying that. anyways shortly after my hospitalization i looked in the mirror and saw an alien face and it scared the crap out of me. i believe that day god was telling me the truth and ever since then i believe that aliens are the explanation to all religion. something gave me the idea that virgin Mary was abducted by aliens and sodimized creating the hybrid jesus christ to save us from our sins because they needed to cleans the human race. i had these thoughts before i watched ancient aliens.

  15. To truly “KNOW” is to know yourself. Easier said then done, right? We will be visited on a global scale and I believe that will happen very soon. A massive awakening that we are not alone, that our government has hidden this from us, and suddenly everything has changed. The question if they are evil, of if they are benevolent will probably be the first wave of fear…then trying to work their existence into your religious beliefs. The Bible, and it’s missing words, do you wonder if someone took them out because it tells us that we are not alone? Who they are to us? Yes, I do believe religious texts describes alien encounters, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness”. Gods? “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came into the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” Angels having sex with human women? I don’t think angels are what we are meant to believe they are. I believe these “fallen” angels were E.T.’s. I cannot come to any other conclusion unless i am to believe that angels have a sex drive and take human women home with with them…it’s too “human” of a move. The Bible, Torah, Mahabharata, Dead Sea Scrolls are a few other examples of writings that describe alien encounters.

    After absorbing and re-writing my beliefs after much research, my mind and heart opened refreshingly so. I began to “unlearn” and as I did and still am, i’m finding that it’s not the answers that open my mind and heart, it’s the questions. The imagination. The visualization of who I want to be, and the reality in which I wish live.

    Someone wrote a above the question of whether these ET’s are interstellar or dimensional and perhaps they are both, but we, here on Earth I believe have countless different dimensions or realities. As one enlightens toward love and truth our dimension changes with a new reality. You can chose light or dark and with that decision comes that reality. In my opinion, the questions if our visitors will be malevolent or benevolent is entirely your decision based on the reality you chose. Though these visiting ET’s may be far more advanced technologically this does not necessarily mean they are advanced spiritually. One has nothing to do with the other. My point is this, good and evil, light and dark, they both exist, but what your experience will be is up to you.

    Know yourself. Fear not.

    I have researched abductions, I believe people are experiencing these horrific encounters. I had a very hard time excepting that God would allow such a thing. Someone once told me that these individual’s over-souls had agreed to this. What? Over-souls meaning your highest self, the all knowing self, the awakened self. Perhaps the soul when it is not in the body we are all in now. I have accepted that all I experience in life, no matter how uncomfortable or horrible it may seem, it has meaning, a purpose even though I may not understand it at the time. I believe everyone here on Earth has come to learn, and we chose this life with both the good and the not so good; and what an exciting time to be here with the events ahead. When we all KNOW we are not alone and learn of how we became and perhaps why we are here…Try to not place your energies into the fear of whether they(ET’s) will be evil or deceptive, if you know who you are, you will not lose your free will for nothing can take that away from you.

    If you are a believer and I’m sorta assuming you are since your reading this blog…try to spread the word to anybody who will listen. I feel it’s important to at least try to open the eyes of those who resist the possibility that we are not alone and in this perhaps it will help to raise collective consciousness. It is within the collective consciousness that our strength of love and light will determine our future selves within a new world.

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