28 thoughts on “Merry Christmas Everyone!

  1. Wishing everyone and your families a blessed and peaceful Christmas!


    The Lord of the Snow

    Isaiah 55:10
    Fo as the rain cometh down,
    and the snow from heaven,
    and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth,
    and maketh it bring forth and bud,
    that it may give seed to the sower,
    and bread to the eater:

    Psalms 51:7
    Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean:
    wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

    Daniel 7:9
    I beheld till the thrones were cast down,
    and the Ancient of days sit,
    whose garment was white as snow,
    and the hair of his head like the pure wool:
    his throne was like the fiery flame,
    and his wheels as burning fire.

    Job 37:6
    For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth;
    likewise to the small rain.
    and to the great rain of his strength.

    Job 38:22
    Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow?
    or hast thou seen of treasures of the hail,

    Psalms 147:16
    He given snow like wool:
    he scattereth the hoarfrost like ashes

    Proverbs 25:13
    As the cold of snow in the time of harvest,
    so is a faithful messenger to them that send him:
    for he refresheth the soul of his masters.

    Mark 9:3
    And his raiment became shinning, exceeding white
    as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

    Matthew 28:3
    His countenance was like lighting,
    and his raiment white as snow:

    Isaiah 1:18,19,
    Come now, and let us reason together,
    saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet,
    they shall be as white as snow;
    though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
    If ye be willing and obedient,
    ye shall eat the good of the land:

    Revelation 1:14
    His head and his hairs were white like wool,
    as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

    [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
    government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
    Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
    Prince of Peace.

    [1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
    Word was God.
    [2] The same was in the beginning with God.
    [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing
    made that was made.
    [4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
    [5] And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended
    it not.
    [6] There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
    [7] The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that
    all men through him might believe.
    [8] He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that
    [9] That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh
    into the world.
    [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the
    world knew him not.
    [11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
    [12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the
    sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor
    of the will of man, but of God.
    [14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld
    his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of
    grace and truth.

    • I wish I have seen this site earlier….
      Please capitalize Christmas, and keep CHRIST in Christmas.
      Hope everyone had a very Merry CHRISTmas, and wish you all a wonderful New Year.

  2. I’m sorry Lynn, I will not wish anyone a ‘merry xmas’. This season has absolutely NOTHING to do with Jesua/Yeshua the only begotten Son of God/Yaweh. We cannot take something that is leavened with unTruth and make it good.

    But I will bid you blessings from our Father, Yaweh.

    He tells us not to have anything to do with the traditions of men. And most certainly to have absolutely nothing to do with participating in pagan holidays/rituals/traditions. It’s an abomination to Him.

    Jeremiah 10:
    2Thus saith the LORD, Learn NOT the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

    3For the customs of the people are VAIN: for one CUTTETH A TREE OUT OF THE FOREST, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

    4They DECK IT WITH SILVER AND WITH GOLD; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

    5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

    God warned His people Israel (in Deuteronomy 12:29-32, but by all means read the whole chapter!) to destroy ALL vestiges of pagan worship that they found in the “Promised Land.” Not only did God want to prevent His people from being enticed to worship false gods, but He also specifically revealed that He did not want His people to worship Him in the SAME MANNER in which the heathen worshipped their gods.

    Yaweh does not want our help.
    Yaweh does not need our help.
    Yaweh wants our obedience. He wants our hearts. He wants us contrite and humble before Him – willing to obey Him.

    I have NO desire to debate this with anyone. I simply lay out the Truth as the Holy Spirit revealed it to me – in obedience to Him as He laid it on my heart.

    We simply cannot make something good that is rooted in evil. Light has NO fellowship with the darkness.

    Yaweh bless all who diligently, humbly, and sincerely seek Him.
    Yaweh have Mercy on us all.

    • Lisa,

      I understand your point of view as I would tend to lean more in your stated “no Christmas” direction but the Holy Spirit isn’t telling me to approach it that way.

      The Lord may be working in a broader fashion within this secularized Holiday than to just cut and run.

      Christians (true ones that are) continue to elevate God & Christ at this time of year and it can provide an opportunity to reach the lost when they do not normally think of God/Christ throughout most of the year.

      I did have a friend attend the Christmas Eve service although she would not come to church any other day of the year. For some reason people will bite the bullet & show up on Christmas & Easter & some even come to accept Christ on those days.

      Christmas traditions do stem from Pagan roots & under the age of the Law that was a huge abomination because they we’re required to follow Jewish law & had their own tradition/customs.

      Christ then came He fulfilled the law so we are now living in the age of grace. He then said do not let anyone judge you on what your traditions are as long as your heart is centered on Christ.

      Colossians 2:16
      “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.”

      I am confident that God will teach us the proper way to worship & give us the low down on feasts & special days set aside for Him when Jesus returns to establish the Millennial Kingdom & beyond which will not incorporate any paganized traditions.

      And do I look forward to that day!!! But meanwhile, I plan to remind people of Christ and the gospel message @ Christmas while we still have the opportunity.

      At one time I was a deceived Jehovah’s Witness for a couple years & fell into the legalism trap where we did not celebrate any of the holidays for the very reason you stated. At the time I reasoned because they were telling me the truth on this topic (which my Christian upbringing never mentioned) they are probably right in everything. I guess you could say it created sort of a backlash in my reasoning. Since the “Christians” were concealing the truth (on this matter) what else are they wrong about? That is the first step in how I got sucked into the JW’s. A GIAGANTIC mistake!

      There is a balance to God’s grace & something that I am constantly learning about.

    • LateNightLisa,

      I appreciate what you are saying. The reason I understand your point of view so well is because the belief you hold is what I was raised with.

      You are speaking from ‘an age of grace’ dispensation which is a lot of Truth with a bit of leaven, I have come to understand. A little leaven leavens the whole lot and spoils the pot.

      Satan is subtle, much more clever than we are, and oh soo so so so patient to achieve his subtle deceptions. I loathe him.

      You are basing your ‘view’ on the ‘Old’ verses the ‘New Covenant’ idea that was NOT remotely taught in the early church. What I posted earlier is not my opinion or my view. It was revealed to me by the Holy Spirit. That is a bold claim I know – but I claim it boldly because He taught me when I sought to know the whole Truth about xmas, easter, etc – along with asking Him about the doctrines I was taught in ‘church’. It’s been about 5 years since this journey with Him began in earnest and He has taken apart much for me. So, it is not my opinion or ‘view’ as you called it. The New Covenant did not ‘replace’ the Old Convenant. Yeshua did NOT come to do away with the Law. He came to fulfil (interpret it properly – to live it – to give us the example – and to shed His Blood that we might be ABLE to keep His Commandments THROUGH Him). I know that’s a lot to swallow, but if you ask Him – He will show you what He is showing many right now. I see the Bible as ONE continuous book now. I find two, three and MORE witnesses in the Old Testament for the scriptures I read in the New!! I’m also finding ALL throughout the OT – soo many Scriptures that point to Messiah before He was born (the covenants, the law, prophecies, – it’s nothing short of amazing!).

      It is SO interesting that you quoted:
      Colossians 2:16
      “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.”

      because if you do your homework on the contextof who Paul was speaking too and WHY – you will find that Paul was talking to people who were NOT jews (therefore did not know the law — God’s law which He wrote with His own finger and we know He changes not). Paul was talking to Gentiles. That means they did NOT know God’s law and were not schooled in the WAY (remembering, Yeshua IS the WAY the Truth and the LIFE).
      Anyway, after coming to Yeshua, the Gentiles were being taught God’s law through faith in Yeshua….then Paul went away….then Paul found out they were wavering and really struggling to keep their new Way of Life through Yeshua. What I mean by wavering and struggling to keep their new Way of Life – is that they were learning about the Feasts of Yaweh (HIS Appointed Days – not ‘jewish days’ as we have been LIED too about!), weekly Sabbath, Yearly Sabbaths, and dietary guidelines (which were made for our good), etc etc etc.

      So, understanding that these were Gentiles – new to Yaweh’s Way – and now struggling under the pressure of the pagans around them, Paul exhorted them NOT to let their old pagan buddies judge them about the days they were keeping Holy (Yaweh’s Appointed Feast Days, weekly Sabbath – and other Sabbaths throughout the year on Yaweh’s calendar).

      This Scripture has been taught to mean the EXACT opposite to what it is actually telling us! You do not have to believe me. Please don’t. Please seek the Holy Spirit on it. He will open up a huge can of worms and undo everything that is ‘leaven’ when we seek to know the Truth. He is Faithful and WILL lead us into all Truth.

      Having said all this, I do not think for one minute that Yaweh’s Hand is short that He cannot work or move in strange places, strange times and in strange ways that confound us. But I certainly will not, knowing what I personally have been shown by Him, justify celebrating these pagan holidays. I am determined to stay the course despite the mocking (not from you), persecution and nastiness from people who want to cling to their traditions of men.

      I meet all sorts of people who are at different places in their Faith. The Holy Spirit reminds me that HE knows if they are rooted in good soil, the rocks, or otherwise. So I condemn NO ONE. I only share what He has shown me. If this niggles anyone – they should listen to that still small voice and seek the Holy Spirit on the matter. NOT react and lean on their understanding (like I was guilty of for so many years).

      I only plant seeds of this Truth when and where HE LEADS me too. I don’t know who it was for – but I know He laid it on my heart so heavily last night to post that post here. So I obeyed Him.

      And I just prayed it takes root in good soil. It’s Yaweh who waters – not me.

      I hope this gives you some hint or idea of where I’m coming from. I also want to make it really clear that I do NOT fully understand the Feasts or everything else He has been showing me. What I do know with 100% certainty is that He DOES lead us into all Truth when we humbly seek Him, and He DOES teach us line by line, precept upon precept – here and little and there a little, just like it says in Isaiah 28. That’s why I made the statement that if someone’s pastor or priest is their final authority or word on what they believe? They are on dangerous ground, because man is a liar – our hearts are deceptive and wicked and we have only ONE teacher/rabbi/pastor and that is Yeshua (who said so out of His own mouth).

      You said:
      “I am confident that God will teach us the proper way to worship & give us the low down on feasts & special days set aside for Him when Jesus returns to establish the Millennial Kingdom & beyond which will not incorporate any paganized traditions.”

      You know what I learned recently? We will DEFINITELY be keeping the Feasts in the New Kingdom (here on earth!) during Yeshua’s millennial reign. He is trying to show us the deceptions that have crept in. There are many. One is the Feast Days – another is the calendar – amongt other doctrines that have taken root in the Harlot and Her Daughters and spread like wild fire. He is asking us – begging us to Come out of Her My People. To prepare us for the new Kingdom.

      Ask yourself who is the Bride? Who is Israel (I’m not talking genetics)? Who are the Wedding Guests? Who are the multitudes? Why is it prophesied that SOME will have glorified bodies and some will not? We know in the New Kingdom that those who have glorified bodies will not marry or be given in marriage but rule and reign with Yeshua……..yet….babies will be born (without deformities), etc therefore there WILL be people in the New Kingdom who do NOT have glorified bodies. How did they get in?
      Isaiah 65 talks about the New Kingdom (so exciting!!):
      17For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

      18But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

      19And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

      20There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

      21And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

      22They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

      23They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.

      24And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

      25The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

      The reason I’m bringing those questions up is because they are NOT telling us the whole Truth in church! I got so sick of being brushed aside, or given some unsatisfying answer that I knew deep in my Spirit wasn’t the whole Truth. And I can tell you that the way things are unfolding – it’s ALL connected to Yaweh’s calendar (not the one we observe, which is – yep – pagan) and Feast Days.

      Anyway, I know this is long – but I wanted to answer you as the Holy Spirit leads. I pray whoever reads this – and hears the Holy Spirit – that they will seek Him and ask HIM;).
      YHWH bless and keep you as you seek Him.

    • p.s. Latenightlisa,

      one thing I forgot to clarify is that what we call ‘jewish tradition’ is largely steeped in TALMUD (which is evil). I make a distinction between Hebrew and ‘jew’, because I’m really talking about Hebrew traditions when I refer to the Feast Days, etc as laid out by Yaweh. (Jew is merely a tribe of Judah – one of 12 tribes!). When I’m learning about a Feast – I’m asking the Holy Spirit to help me sift the chaff from the wheat….and what I mean by that is I’m asking Him to help me separate Truth from the vile, viperous traditions (heavy yoke) that the Talmudic jewish priests tried (somewhat successfully) for so long to impose on people. We are ONE in Yeshua — there is NO JEW OR GENTILE if we are in Him. There is NO DIVISION in Yeshua! (another lie that has crept in is that the jews are special and that’s just not true in the way it’s being taught!)
      Remember, Yeshua called a sect of them vipers? That’s important and I only learned just how important that was recently. He was targeting the Pharisees and Sadducees who had a satanic agenda of creating a yoke upon people’s necks. They PERVERTED Yaweh’s Law and made it an unbearable yoke to wield power over them. He told them He didn’t want their sacrifices – but wanted Love (in other words, He wasn’t interested in their ‘works’ that made them appear holy – but rather He wanted their hearts circumcised to Him!) He also warns us about fake jews in Revelation 2:9 & 3:9….anyway, not to get too lengthy – but just wanted to make the distinction. There is much to unlearn and mountains more TO learn. YHWH bless.

    • There are no religions that I totally believe in but I love God and am very spiritual, but I can’t see a true Christian celebrating christmas or Easter, and of course Halloween. We don’t know when Christ was born, and maybe he had a reason for not telling us, but it certainly wasn’t in the middle of winter when the shepherds were still out with their flocks. That is However when the Romans had a horrible, evil celebration to the god Saturn. Just because Constantine wanted to unify the Christians with the pagans by mixing Christ’s b’day with a false gods’ birthday doesn’t make it a Christian holiday. Christ told us what he wanted us to keep doing in remembrance of Him & that was to remember The Lord’s Supper. We can’t be lukewarm & celebrate all this pagan stuff and think we’re being pleasing to God, no matter what excuses we find for doing so. Nowadays it isn’t even politically correct to mention baby Jesus, Christ, or God in any public way in connection with christmas. that alone would do it for me. But the pagan crap is more important and worse.

    • Barbara,
      We can definitely know when Yeshua was born:). If you do a little (okay a lot [of]!) digging into the Feasts – you’ll find Yeshua fulfilled the Spring Feasts (the first four out of seven that we are required to keep each year). He was the Passover Lamb (Passover Feast), He was Unleavened or without sin (Feast of Unleavened Bread), First Fruits (Yeshua’s resurrection) and Pentecost (Feast of Weeks).

      We know when Elizabeth was pregnant with John the Baptist….it’s been calculated in what month she got pregnant and when they are going to certain Feasts during that time….pin that to when Mary was pregnant and gave birth and we know that Yeshua was born on Succot (Feast of Tabernacles……..and guess what succot means in Hebrew — manger, booth!). Yeshua came in the flesh to ‘tabernacle’ with us:)!!! It’s so exciting learning about the Feasts. And I’ve barely scratched the surface, I think!

      I found a link which is about Succot and how it was when Yeshua/Jesus was born……….admittedly, I have not read this particular article yet – so read it carefully and prayerfully if you choose to read it. But I know from my own investigations that Yeshua was born on Succot and I find it so exciting to learn what was being hidden from us for so long.

      YHWH bless!

    • Thank you Lisa for all your wonderful information, I’m going to check it all thoroughly. You could easily be the person I’ve been searching for, although I didn’t know who, who can put my mind at rest. Thank you again so much!!


    • I at one time was also a Jehovah’s Witness, mormon, baptist, you name it, in searching for the truth. I’ve been a serious Bible reader all my life, searching for the truth. I’ve learned that it isn’t in mainstream religions, which also have teachings and traditions started by Satan.

      I’m so excited by a website I have found after much prayer, that teaches only what the Bible says about things, according to how I believe. It’s from a non-denominational Church in Ill. called The Gospel Way.

      Please everyone, check them out if you’re not interested in “Traditions of men” but only what the Bible has to say about things.

    • Lisa,

      You said at the beginning of your message:
      “I’m sorry Lynn, I will not wish anyone a ‘merry xmas’. This season has absolutely NOTHING to do with Jesua/Yeshua the only begotten Son of God/Yaweh. We cannot take something that is leavened with unTruth and make it good.

      But I will bid you blessings from our Father, Yaweh

      Please forgive me for asking, but I am very curious to know what your faith is.
      For Christians, we believe in Jesus Christ, to us, He was born, and He has given us life by being on the cross.
      We also do not say x-mas !!!! we keep CHRIST in Christmas, we do say “Merry Christmas”.
      Just as I would say to my Jewish friends “Happy Hanuka” חג סמח . That will not offend me to say to anyone happy holidays for any celbration that isn’t Christian.

      Please take no offence, I am just curious. I have respect for all people and all religion. Every one is entitled to their own beliefs.
      May I ask you in what language is the word “Yaweh” ???

      May you be blessed by your way of beliefs.
      With respect

  3. My heart was saddened this Christmas, I found out my brother does not believe in the bible, nor does he believe in Christ return. His wife is into new age books and athiest authors somehow has brainwashed him into believing this nonsense. He told me, the rapture will not happen, if Jesus was going to come back he would have already done so. Telling me it’s been 2000 years, where is he? He says the bible is just stories to teach us how to live but that’s all they are just stories, such as Jonah and the whale etc…I purchased Dr Marzulli’s book for him but beyond that, Im not sure what to do.
    I would appreciate if anyone could share some scriptures that I could show him, it’s very sad when a family member you love is on the wrong path. This was a big blow to me this Christmas.
    Thanks everybody,

    • Matt – the MOST powerful thing you can do for your brother is to pray for Him and TRUST that Yaweh will hear and answer. It is the FATHER who draws us to Him………….not by our efforts. That’s not to say you shouldn’t share the Light in you – but just remember that no one can come to Jesus/Yeshua UNLESS the Father draws him. So, it’s not our efforts that really matter in terms of ‘witnessing’ with our words. Be the example – let Yeshua’s Light shine through your life. And pray the Father quickens your brother’s heart and draws him to desire to know Truth (Yeshua is the Way the TRUTH and the Life)….and perhaps He will use the Light in you to draw your brother.

      Take comfort that our Father does not want anyone to perish and His Hand is not short that it cannot draw your brother to His Son.
      Yaweh bless, keep and comfort you!!

    • Matt,

      Jesus has always been there, in every flower that blooms, in every rain drop, in every sunrise, in every baby that is born……. these are miracles that He shows us on daily bases that He exists. Just being alive and breathing air is a miracle of God our Lord, our Creater.
      Sometimes we have to use common sense in noticing how life really goes on. All through history that we know about, evil tries to blind people away from Jesus and away from believing, but we work very hard to keep Him, the Lord, in our hearts, and always pray, you have no idea how strong and powerful prayers are when they are from the heart.

      Evil has been around as long as the Lord has been around, it is so hard to keep fighting evil, but we have to, in order to keep defeating evil.

      Best of luck Matt with your brother seeing the light again.
      Will pray for him with you

  4. I hope all had a good Holiday yesterday. I have just read from “What does it all mean” web site that Israel just oredered all of its embassadors and Counselors worldwide, home to Israel via 12-28. I could not verify through other sources. Has anyone seen or heard this? Dave

    • Link: http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6430

      No, but this might have something to do with it, maybe a takeover of sorts “Egypt, Saudis secretly draft Palestinian statehood motion for Security Council:”

      So far the 7 nations include: “secured endorsement pledges from Russia, China, France and Britain, as well as the African, South American and Asian representatives on the Security Council.”

      Who’s missing? Perhaps the U.S.? Will this be the ten to agree to peace at some point or will it be a sep. list or a combined list of these? Hmn.

      “The Americans may simply abstain, leaving 10-12 Security Council members out of 15 to carry the resolution.”

      Maybe this is simply a lining up of various nations to recognize the next King. Can anyone say King Abdullah?

      “Saudi King Abdullah, President Hosni Mubarak and Mahmoud Abbas have decided that if the US vetoes their resolution, Abbas will resign down finally as chairman of the Palestinian Authority and his place will not be taken by any member of his administration.”

  5. All my life I’ve gone to all kinds of different Churches, searching for one with the truth as I understand the Bible. I always knew of the pagan things mixed in with Christ’s birth & never felt right celebrating christmas, or xmas, as it really has nothing to do with God or Christ. Putting Christ in Christmas is how people justify celebrating the holiday that was started to unify the Christians and their religion with the Pagans and their worship of their false gods. When I was a young adult not celebrating Christmas was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to get through my head. If you’ve done it all your life it’s nearly impossible to see doing anything differently. I cared so much that my worship be in Spirit and Truth and not lukewarm. I parked my booty in a library in Pasadena, CA for many hours trying to reconcile all this. After much praying about it I began to see so clearly what was really happening. The Devil is appearing as an angel of light all over the world to confuse people and to cause their worship to go to him, not God, because the Bible says we can’t worship both, in however we’re living our lives, our worship is going to one or the other. I’ve never felt right going to a mainstream church, I just don’t believe them.

    I’ve always been Protestant mainly & have searched all my life for a Church I can belong to that I could really believe in, and I’ve just recently found that Church. It’s on-line, non-denominational, & called The Gospel Way. It’s from Illinois and has all it’s teachings and beliefs on the internet. I can’t find a thing biblically wrong with any of their teachings. They just go by what the Bible says. I’m so excited about this and my next step is to find someone near here in CA where I live, who belongs to it, so we can worship God together or as a little group. My husband, sadly, is totally not interested in the Bible or churches at all-he’s seen so many “religious” people lie and cheat people that he has no use for them. He clumps them all together, as, I guess I do too, in believing that no church is right. I’ve been worshipping alone but will be thrilled when and if I can find somebody nearby who shares my beliefs, and I know that there must be some everywhere. The Bible says that the road to life is narrow and HARD to FIND. Not that you can find the truth on any street corner and after all, even though they disagree with each other they are headed in the same direction. That can’t possibly be true or God wouldn’t be God, to allow all those false teachings.

    • Hi Barbara – May I suggest you try to start a little home church with a few people who are liked minded. Make sure everyone participates bringing something to the meeting as we are told to do in Corinthians. Wait on the spirit and let Him lead as to what should happen that day. Most important of all, No Grand Pubas! You will see that after a short while a leader will rise up and begin to dominate the group. This is how the priesthood over the laity began….

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