December 20 – Acceleration Radio Special! Dizdar and Grund!
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Eric W. said
Excellent. I was hoping the three of you were going to get together. I wouldn’t miss this show for the world.
Pudding said
The A-Team is back!
richard said
Long Post but very interesting read “CERN & The Mayans”
We have often quoted the prophetic passage that Jesus the Messiah gave us regarding the day we have come to: “As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the coming of the Son of Man.” The days of Noah were very complex and extended beyond the flood event. There were things happening on the planet that our current science fiction movies and technology have not as of yet been able to duplicate. However, we have come to such a time where are sharing things that are making people ears tingle, they will scratch their heads in wonderment. The truth is so far out, it is literally unbelievable and those who exist in the shadows are counting on humanity staying asleep and not believing. Study Genesis 4-11 closely, especially Genesis 6,10,&11.
For the past 4 years or so we have been sharing and prophesying about the hidden purpose for the Large Hadron Collider at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland. Actually, we had been speaking about a machine being built, without ever hearing about it, until late in 2008.
On Tuesday night December 8, 2009, there was a giant Spiral light seen in the skies over Norway with a blue-green beam of light coming out of it. There were 18 levels/layers of spiral light and in the center a black hole. Lights could also yet be seen in the early morning.
What else was happening on the night of December 8, 2009 not very far away deep underground and also not visible in the night sky? Thousands of physicists from around the world were celebrating because CERN – LHC had successful opened of a Vortex or Wormhole. Of course, the scientific term they called it was “the smashing of subatomic particles.”
The LHC is a Star Gate among other things; we reported this last year in our publication “Entering the Lion’s Gate”. It had been long feared that if they fired up the LHC it could create a Black Hole.
Nimrod, the great grandson of Noah and king of Babylon and mighty hunter lived during the latter days of Noah. According to ancient text and Hebrew words definition, he was believed to be a giant (Nephilim-fallen one). Genesis 6:4, 10:9
He built a Spiral Tower to reach the heavens. It was not for the purpose you have been told in Sunday school and in most churches. He was not trying to escape another flood. He was not trying to get to the “religious concept of heaven”. The Spiral Tower as we have stated in years past was a Star Gate. BABYLON in the ancient Akkadian language literally means, Gateway to the Gods. It was a portal for interplanetary travel; however, it was not sanctioned by Elohim (the Gods). Nimrod the fallen one (Nephilim) was trying to get back to where part of his genetic ancestry came from, not on planet earth.
Babylon was called the Gateway to the Gods, known for being one of the most active Star Gates on the planets. According to ancient Sumerian history, it is where the gods or ancient astronauts (aliens) landed and where people on Earth were portal to other worlds. It was not uncommon to see this type of activity, mortals actually prayed for this type of activity and yet do today not fully realizing what it is they pray for.
Could there be a reason why IRAQ, which was once called Babylon is mentioned more than any other nation in the Bible? Could it be that our (military) purpose in Iraq is also to secure the Star Gate? In 2005 it was leaked that special forces were there to control a Star Gate that had been discovered and possibly shut it down to prevent ancient prophecies from coming to pass about the return of the Anunnaki called “gods”. You might be surprised at how seriously the governments of the world look at prophesy and believe in it.
Why would a Star Gate in Iraq present a problem? All of the Inter-dimensional and Extra-Terrestrial races do not come in peace. Once a vortex is opened it is necessary to be able to control what comes through it.
Concerns about CERN: The symbol that CERN uses as a logo and also on the LHC – Star Gate is 666. It is cleverly concealed, can you see what I see?
We have also shared in the past how the Illuminati is in control of the CERN Project. Their plans in 2008 were to allow dimensional beings to come through the portal they would create. It was rumored in some circles that these beings were to help and empower the Illuminati to completely bring in their New World Order.
When I heard of this, we called on intercessors-we began to release prophetic decree into CERN and the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and commanded it to not function properly. News began to report within several days that the LHC had malfunctioned, and it continued to malfunction and break down several times.
We did not find out about the December 2009 firing up of the LHC until after the fact. By looking at the image above, one can clearly see that it looks like a vortex or worm hole was opened. We do not know who or what can through, or if humans were sent somewhere.
Here are some very important WATCH DATE: December 17-21, 2012. After reading the article below, you will understand why these dates are most important to be in prayer. This is what the LHC at CERN looks like.
Now look at this image what the ancient Mayans drew. Were the Mayan warning us of something? The ancient Mayan god’s did say they would return.
It seems like the Illuminati wants to use the energy from the alignment leading up to December 21, 2012 with the center of the Milky Way galaxy to assist in opening the ancient Star Gate. Their intent is to allow Goetic Demons from the 4th dimension into our world. There are 72 principal demon-gods that control legions of others that have many abilities. These are the spirits that came out of the flesh of the Nephilim (hybrid -human/angels) that were killed during the flood, prior the flood and after the flood. They were confined to what we know of as the 4th dimension.
What most people don’t know about these beings is, they are not only human hybrids in form, but also animal and insect hybrids. Occult magic, combined with hi-technology can be very powerful and dangerous. These powerful ancient entities can manifest in what appears as solid form and will communicate and divulge secrets. These ancient beings can be used to do the bidding of whoever conjures them. They can be commanded to do good or evil; but there must be a sacrifice or offerings.
King Solomon was a master occultist, he understood the spirit world and used them to do his bidding for good. He also knew how to protect himself with certain seals with hieroglyphic names of deities, using certain metals and stones.
CERN and the LHC will possibly fulfill Revelation 9 in the literal sense. It speaks about a vortex being opened called the bottomless pit- the demon-locust, and scorpion hybrids were allowed to come through. If you know anything about goetic demons-it is very clear that this is not just “figuratively,” these are literal beings that have existed thousands of years. They can only interact with our reality if they are conjured by rituals and or rituals, plus technology by powerful occultist.
WHY ARE THEY COMING AT THIS TIME?
It is written in the prophecies of the Bible and all ancient text. It goes a bit deeper and we do not have the time to get into it here. In short, they are not only being summoned to assist in seizing world power, to make their conjurers more wealthy; but there is a deeper purpose behind opening the ancient Star Gates and portals to the 4th dimension and beyond.
This will seem so far out. Some years ago [someone] said to me that the ancient Star Gates would be opened to allow negative entities in to extract technology and ancient knowledge from them on how to seal the Star Gate that the literal Messiah will appear through with myriads of his saints.
The wicked gods of this world believe more about your Bible than many of you reading this article. They are convinced it is true and are afraid of being evicted from the planet. In hopes to prolong their stay and change the prophecy, they are conjuring the goetic demons and enlisting evil alien (angels) to fight against the Lord and his Christ. This is the literal battle that we have spoken about for many years that some of you will be alive to see in the skies over this beautiful planet. Yes, spaceships will be involve and it might appear like in the movies.
“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sits in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.” Psalms 2
WHO DOES THE EARTH BELONG TO?
The earth is the Yahweh’s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
As the Christ Consciousness is raised up in us, it will affect everything. The Grace of God will much more abound. Light will dispel the darkness. Lift up your heads, oh ye Gates (you are the star gates), even you everlasting doors and the King of Glory SHALL COME IN…Who is the King of Glory?? The LORD (Yahweh), strong and mighty in battle, he is the King of Glory.
Pudding said
Might have been easier to put the link than the whole article?
“http://www.atam.org/CERNMayan.html”
“As the Christ Consciousness is raised up in us”
Give me a break!
Eric W. said
I’m really very troubled by the amount of insanity, hype, and stupidity that’s leading into tomorrow.
Chaos, distraction, suicides…mission accomplished right there before we even get into the rest of the unseen ramifications and so forth. It’s bad news any way we cut it.
richard said
Yes it would have been easier just to post the link. However I thought it was worth posting. Especially on a Thursday when the postings are much lower due to the radio broadcast tonight.
LA by the way looking forward to tonight.
In addition Pudding if I didn’t believe in portals like the portal of Mt Hermon I would read this article and say you have got to be kidding me?
However worm holes, black holes and portals are very real in my opinion as well as such scholars as Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawkings.
However what really makes me believe in portals is when I hear Christian brothers such as LA talk about his experience when a hole in the wall opened when he was in the occult and what can only be described as demon came out of it appeared. Now to hear LA talk about that experience I would describe it as a portal, a worm hole or even a black hole.
Steve Quayle had a similar experience.
Although I will say the Spiral Lights of Norway could also be HAARP.
Darla H. said
Richard, I am a newby so I thank you for the info on Cern..I want my sis to read this….my “180 IQ” sis has interesting thoughts when it comes to stuff like this….She was calling out HAARP before anyone was….she was trying to get it out there because her brain understood how it worked…She was warning many waaaaaay before it was put out on the net…so thank you
and for Pudding…..the more our mind is washed in the word the more Christ minded we are….you poo poo many things ….everyone can brings things to the table….we are not all perfect…..but if we do not bring things to the table the puzzle it harder to put together….I like to read what others bring….if we are not accurate in what we bring then there is grace and discussion …there is no need to poo poo…..most are on the site because we want to think outside the BOX.
Pudding said
Darla H. Do you understand what and why I was poo poing?
hopeful_watcher said
The same reason I poopooed it when I read it. The new age reference of Christ Consiousness… More like a Christ con.
There is some weird crap happening for sure and its beyond our human ability to overcome it. Thank the Lord we are overcomers IN CHRIST.
First the world will be afraid. Then they will be handed a false savior which they will readily embrace. Stand strong for the authentic Christ… the truth. Accept no substitutions!
Pudding said
Hopeful, Exactly. Accept no substitutions!
Richard, For the most part in relation to portals the discussion you are referring to was we are trying to find where it spoke about portals in the bible and as I remember no one found anything.
As to the use of portals outside of the bible or as to personal experience that is a whole different discussion. As in the mechanics of anything we name things the best way according to the function as we see it, unfortunately there does not appear to be any specific manual as to the operation and limitations and laws regarding moving from one dimension to the other, at the least it is theoretical and at best imaginative, but like with most of these topics we continue to observe hoping for a better understanding. As a sci-fi, science fan portals, gates, wormholes. conduits etc. are cool. Like you said if someone witnesses an event and calls it a portal, then by cracky it must be a portal or…?
louthesaint said
I’ll further poo,poo it. Actually i’ll poo,poo it 3 times poo,poo,poo.
“Let no one deceive you from the simplicity of the Faith”
louthesaint said
Extract from Richard’s post. (Could there be a reason why IRAQ, which was once called Babylon is mentioned more than any other nation in the Bible? Could it be that our (military) purpose in Iraq is also to secure the Star Gate?)
This is exactly the kind of sicience-fiction nonsense being seeded in the faith of many.
Any reasonable person knows that our military intervention in Iraq was to profit the ‘elite’ those who “serve
Mammon” from the abundance of liquid gold (oil) in that country.
GulfBreezeJen said
Darla, I think Pudding was poo-pooing only the new age false prophets.
LookingUp said
Dump-truck load of poo. You cannot have the mind of Christ without having the Word of Christ through the Holy Spirit of Christ. The Isley Brothers would be so proud, because there is a whole lot of twisting going on today.
Pudding said
If it looks like poo, smells like poo and tastes like poo, it must be poo.
-Cheech & Chong
richard said
I feel like Im at an art exposition and Im fielding opinions from guests who have absolutely no knowledge of art but they have an opinion. Oh look the colors are muddled and Im having a hard time making out the faces? So what does poo poo mean? I feel like Im asking a four year old if had a bowel movement?
Pudding “what does Christ Conscious mean to you and why it so horrible to say Christ Conscious?”
Christ Conscious to me could mean several things.I might quote Phill 2
“Have this mind among yourselves which is one in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of man. And being found in human form, he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on the cross.”
(Philippians 2:5-9) or
Thomas Keatings understanding when he describes transformation as a movement through four ways of understanding one’s self and the corresponding states of consciousness associated with each – 1) the you of ordinary everyday awareness, 2) the you of your personality and character, 3) the you that is in relationship with those who love you for exactly who you are, and 4) the you that at the deepest level is not separate from God. Although some people speak of this as a journey toward Christ-likeness, I prefer to describe it as the acquisition of Christ consciousness. Too easily becoming like Christ gets reduced to changed behaviour. But genuine transformation involves something much deeper. It involves changed being. It is taking on the mind and heart, identity and consciousness of Christ.
The individual above claims that that earth is Yahweh’s. I would agree. I have read several definitions of Christ Consciousness and the author above is clearly not talking about the New Age form of Christ Consciousness.
Satan can take anyform he wants and when he and his fallen angels return to the earth with the nephilim the world will be shell shocked. LA has already described the accounts of countless possible satanic hybrids. Russ will too tonight. So whats so unbelievable about inter dimensional beings coming through a worm hole? Whats so Poo Poo about that?
Is it because you cant imagine satans fall dominions coming through a worm hole. Do you expect them to just show up in a craft with a sign that says we will not harm you. We’re hear to help?
LoutheSaint unless you have a four star general brother who ran the districts of Iraq in both wars I would say you know nothing about what really happened in Iraq just as I know nothing about what really happened in Babylon / Iraq, other than what the media tells us which is absolutely nothing.
Just like none of us know what happened at Roswell, the Dayton airforce base, the Dulce New Mexico underground base or Area 51, or the Crop Circle phenomenon.. That doesnt mean ET’s are not in those areas.
There is a reason for Matthew 24 “For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect–if that were possible.” When the fallen ones return if we are still here the situation from above could be a real reality.
Looking Up. The author quoted scripture is that not the word? Can you be mores specific?
Pudding said
Richard, How ever you want to defend it, it is what it is, a new age concept.
What do you think about this:
Welcome to the place of no limitations. You are not here by chance or coincidence, it is your Divine destiny to be here Now. You actually agreed to be here to experience the ending of this specific cycle of time and the beginning of a new age. The time for Ascension is here and now as you are rapidly moving toward the 5th dimensional reality. It is your energy, intent and consciousness that are helping to facilitate the dawning of a new day for all humanity and the galaxy.
Don’t be shaken in mind or disturbed by the darkness and appearance of disaster (man-made or natural) all around. The Light that you are and that Is will conquer all and transmute the appearance of catastrophic disaster into Global Deliverance.
Don’t be shaken in mind or disturbed by the darkness and appearance of disaster (man-made or natural) all around. The Light that you are and that Is will conquer all and transmute the appearance of catastrophic disaster into Global Deliverance.
You are deep in the birth canal and crowning, a new consciousness is beginning to permeate the land. This birthing is also called Ascension. This is a new day breaking from deep within. Therefore, break away from fear, hatred, greed, all negativity and illusions of the 3-dimensional world. Embrace and become the power of Love and Light for your complete transformation is at hand.
Order of Melchizedek
From the front page of the site where you got the article.
hopeful_watcher said
Richard, i fear you are treading on dangerous ground. I thought the ideas of wormholes and such are interesting, but I think it misses the bigger picture.
We are given a restricted amount of information through the gospels and it is purposefully simplified for our own good. That means there is ONE Christ we wait for! We strive to have the mind of Christ through the Holy Spirit, but we don’t attain some Christ consciousness where we elevate ourselves. Satan wants us to become like God’s and this kind of thought process is asking for deception.
It also opens the door for the world to settle for other “Christ-like” individuals or apparitions. Lucifer comes as an angel of light, who probably will be viewed as having a Christ conscious… No, this is no good. We must stand and wait faithfully for the authentic Christ.
richard said
Hopeful_Watcher at no point in time did I purpose that Christ Like Consciousness meant that I was trying to be God Like or become Christ. I know there is only one Christ,
The word Christian means to profess belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus. Not to become Christ.
In opinion there are far more dangerous statements in the above article than Christ Consciousness,
I was more disturbed by “Lift up your heads, oh ye Gates (you are the star gates),”
My faith is in Christ and Christ alone. However we know though scripture that there is coming great deception. We know that there will be miraculous signs and wonders. They could come in any form. The above position is a possibility. All demonic propositions could happen. We have no clue.
There is little known about how and when the demonic ones will come back.
The article above I found interesting even if its a non-true short story. I did not pass it off as scripture.
Hopeful_Watcher what are your thoughts about Mt Hermon being a possible portal?
I will have to encourage LA to blog again about his demonic encounters.
richard said
Pudding I found the article on RITA I did not go to the website. So I can not comment on your input.
Linda said
Hopeful watcher you summed that up nicely for Richard. It is New Age a pudding said and it has just enough leaven to leaven to levan the whole lump! They trow in some “Christian” buzz words, maybe even scripture and then twist the scriptures to fit their ideas! Reader Beware! I think we read too much litature and not enough study of GOD’s word. I quit getting so much stuff, felt I was really neglecting GOD’s Word. Good to things for research etc., but the “churc” seems to be all about thenext book out, all the crazy stuff comes from that. “Feelings about”, concepts etc. not the real deal and what IT says!
Linda said
Sorry didn’t proof read, hope you can read my foreign english lol
Linda said
re. the XMarine. There are VERY strict laws about bringing knives and guns into Mexico(tell that to BHO and Holder) you will be arrested and held however long they choose. The Pres. warns people don’t mess around you will be arrested. Then he announces he has it! Are you kidding? I just read an article dealing with their strict laws. Now look at the mess he’s in! Yes we will pray for him, but we shouldn’t tempt GOD like that to get us out of our messes! You’re suppose to explore what’s acceptable when entering foreign countries! We wouldn’t know that here, we’re open to any terroist, murderer and drug dealer, mafia, come one come all! We’ll even give you housing, med., college, SS whatever you need!
hopeful_watcher said
Richard, you have always professed you love for the Lord here on this website. I never did doubt it for a minute. I thought the article was more reflective of the authors beliefs than yours.
I am unfamilar with Mt Hermon, but I do know many many biblical and weird things happen in the high places so anything is possible.
You might be surprised, but I too review a lot of alternative resources and even study alternate religious prophecies. However, it is always with full knowledge of what I am looking at is pure deception from Satan. I look at it to uncover this deception. Over the time I have been doing this it actually has gotten a lot easier. I just look for where it starts to sound a little Christian and then zero in on that. They usually propose something that is the inverse of Christ or of a biblical prophecy.
And that is where I zeroed in with Christ consiousness. And I will respectfully disagree with your statement about there being more dangerous things in that article than that phrase. When they asked Jesus what are the signs of your coming, the first thing he stated was “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
He says something like this FIVE TIMES while he is speaking on the same subject. We don’t need a neon sign pointing to the fact that something that looks like a christ will pass himself off as the Christ and we are to reject it… a Christ consiousness if you will.
I have written a paper on the nature of Satan’s subtle deception. It is pertinent to this and would be interested in your thoughts.
hopeful_watcher said
sorry forgot link. its also in my name link on my comment:
“https://sites.google.com/site/woetous/salvation”
Eric W. said
Odds’n'ends:
“http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/12/20/ancient-deformed-skulls-fuel-alien-theories/?intcmp=features”
Elongated skull found in Mexico. Oh look at the date today. Hmmmm…
“http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=296690″
UN confirms Hezbollah fighting for Assad in Syria
And I keep hearing that they might have access to chems.
“http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/12/20/2387345/boise-pastor-held-in-iran.html”
Another pastor being tortured and jailed in Iran. Doesn’t look goof for him at all. PRAY for him and his family who are already on the run.
Now we’re not going to do much about that when we can’t even handle something like this in our own backyard:
“http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/19/white-house-says-doesnt-know-facts-on-jailed-ex-marine-state-later-confirms/”
So we continue to meddle all over the place but we can’t even rescue or retrieve a 27 year old ex-Marine held prisoner down in Mexico. What a disgrace. Where’s the black bag unsanctioned mission to get him out of there? Come on!
L.A. will love this one: “http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/20/texas-officer-suspended-during-investigation-into-roadside-cavity-search/?test=latestnews”
Texas officer suspended during investigation into roadside cavity search
That’s not even in the airports…that’s on the road! Watch out!
Eric W. said
“http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/3223/”
BREAKING NEWS: Jordan issues gas masks to soldiers
DEBKAfile December 19, 2012, 2:14 PM (GMT+02:00)
A Saudi paper reports that the Jordanian army has been issued with gas masks against a possible chemical weapons attack from Syria. An emergency was also declared along the Jordanian-Syrian border. DEBKAfile: If this report is substantiated, it means that the US military and NATO have passed information to Amman indicating that the chemical threat from Syria is near. US, Czech and Polish special forces are stationed in Jordan ready to counter such an attack.
I think we all know Syria is going to pop these chems. It’s just a question of when.
daviskris014 said
I’m excited about tonight’s show!!
Eric W. said
Me, too!
Kristen said
nomemoleste said
The mayan calendar apocalypse is peanuts compared to the impending doom for all the people suspicious of “13.”
As we near the start of 2013 — many more than just the triskaidekaphobians (*) are going to be in constant dread. (* fear of the number 13)
Proverbs 10
24 The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him:
but the desire of the righteous shall be granted.
Proverbs 23
7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:
Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
So we ought to reverence Almighty God and Him only. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. And nothing shall separate us from the Love of the Lord Jesus.
Romans 8
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors
– through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels,
nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature,
shall be able to separate us from the love of God,
which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
hopeful_watcher said
Romans 8
My most favorite scripture passage!!!
LookingUp said
Mine, too, Hopeful, especially starting in Chapter 7 with verse 14. Man, can I relate with Paul. I spent many years struggling, exhausted, confused, fearful, defeated and depressed over my inability to be who I knew Christ created me to be. Chapter 8:1 set me free from all of that; “there is now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus.” No condemnation. What a glorious truth. Truly, Jesus did it all. So many gifts to be thankful for.
Pudding said
I love the whole book of Romans and the apostle Paul, I had the pleasure not long ago of going to the church where his tomb is, the church for me was magnificent.
Here is a virtual tour: “http://www.vatican.va/various/basiliche/san_paolo/vr_tour/index-it.html”
Rose from Kentucky said
Pudding, I just spent the last hour exploring that church. It is exquisite. I think, however, Paul would have preferred they spend the money on the poor and in spreading the gospel. As magnificent as that basilica is, it is a shack compared to where he is now. Thanks for putting that up.
Pudding said
Rose, You are welcome and I agree with what you said, however just by chance the day I went there they were having an event an some bishops etc. were speaking to perhaps around 150+ young folk and there were hymns sung etc. there was a very energetic and peaceful feeling in the air, well anyway that was 150 young folk not playing video games which is a miracle. Gotta keep them critters busy!
Rose from Kentucky said
That sounds wonderful, Pudding. I think the highest homage to Paul would be to lead young people in prayer and praise to God. What an uplifting experience that must have been! And, it is a stunning place.
nomemoleste said
The aftermath of the upside down mountain…
“http://www.dnaindia.com/print710.php?cid=1779925″
Putin does not believe in prophecy…
says the world ends in about 4.5 Billion years.
“http://www.dnaindia.com/print710.php?cid=1779935″
LookingUp said
Yeah, well, his world is going to end a lot sooner than that.
nomemoleste said
Russ Dizdar, “What to expect will happen 2012 Dec. 21st”
“http://preemptionbroadcast.podomatic.com/enclosure/2012-12-19T20_37_14-08_00.mp3″
Alice again said
My apologies if someone has already posted this:
“http://christiannews.net/2012/12/19/report-newtown-mass-shooter-adam-lanza-may-have-been-involved-in-satanism/”
Eric W. said
It’s worth repeating. I think most of us knew there had to be some sort of occultism in the picture with this kid since his act was so clearly demonic and evil.
hopeful_watcher said
His mom was also a dooms day prepper, which increases the hype newspaper spin 100 fold.
I say we we need an immense amount of spiritual preperation with a dash of physical prepp.
issacsgma said
LookingUp said
It would be soooooo helpful if people would say what links like this are about when they post them, like:
“Celestial Apparition Leaves Trekkers Stunned?”
issacsgma said
“The video did not post like it normally does are the video would have shown what it said“
LookingUp said
I’m sorry, Issac. Didn’t mean to be grumpy. It’s been a long day. Please forgive me.
issacsgma said
Its ok I understand
Corey said
To Richard… Thanks for writing that article. I read it and to me personnally I think it’s quite fascinating. Articles like this is where the Men are seperated from the boys (so to speak). Look folks… Us christians believe in biblical prophecy and are fast to defend it but when you read articles like what Richard just talked about some of us (if not many of us) are quick to raise the flag of doubt and lunacy. If you claim to believe prophecy (biblical) then you must consider these things because the bible backs all of this (Richard’s article) up. When you read the book of Revelation, it is bizarre to say the least… but yet it is true because it is a part of God’s word. Bizarre happenings must take place on earth in order for these prophecies in Revelation to come to pass. What government higher-ups and the people controlling them (Illuminati) must do would seem quite bizarre to us reading about it but folks… something has to be done in order for these “bizarre” prophecies to take place that are found in Revelation. Again… this is where the Men are seperated from the boys. It’s going to take some radical goings on here on earth on the part of men in order for all of this (the bottomless pit being opened) to occur. Don’t be so closed minded… if you remain closed minded… you will miss out on some important understanding of how all of this will happen. It’s not the Lord’s will that we be ignorant of these things. Just Sayin… Lol!
John Michael said
Corey,
Chuck Missler on Revelation
‘http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SWH2vnk-Qw’
hopeful_watcher said
The problem is that most people lack the imagination that our entire existence on this planet is a masquerade. People are like, surely that can’t be, but alas it is. Satan set it up that way from the beginning in the garden.
And this masquerade of falseness is countered with a single, solitary truth in Jesus Christ as our savior.
With that in mind, we can be as closed minded as ever, as long as the one truth we hold onto is that Jesus is the way, the TRUTH and the life.
Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING ELSE, is false. It’s simplicity at its finest.
LookingUp said
Corey, “Christ consciousness” IS a red flag. It is total New Age terminology and thought. It is not biblical. Play with snakes and you’re going to get bit.
Corey said
Lookingup… Just got home and read your response to me… Lol! When someone says Christ consciousness within us, it doesn’t necessarily mean the new age type of meaning. Is it not possible that someone can mean that in the Christian sort of way? Like the fact that you rely on the power of Jesus within you to walk out your faith. Sheeeesh people!
Hopeful Watcher… Yes… there is simplicity in Christ. We’re talking about how these bizarre prophecies in Revelation will be fulfilled. The method to how they will be fulfilled will be anything but simple. Lol!
LookingUp said
Try to find Christ Consciousness in the Bible, Corey. That’s my standard. We are told to have the MIND of Christ, to think His thoughts according to what He revealed to us in His Word. Consciousness is a whole being.concept.
“http://www.ctrforchristcon.org/christ-consciousness.asp”
and others.
nomemoleste said
Target Sites to Shut Portals and Close the Windows — For those Given the Keys to the Kingdom — To shut that none may open and open that none may shut.
list by country:
“http://sacredsites.com/sacred_places/global_sacred_sites.html”
“http://youtu.be/J-NRqIw-OT8″ (sacred sites – doctrines of demons)
Pray that the enemy be bound (rebel angels and their minions)
Loose the bonds on the lost — that they be delivered and freed.
The holy angels are more than very well able to deal directly with the fallen. As Lord Jesus directs, pray that the holy angels be given free course to bind the wicked angels and demons in chains and lock them away. No less so for those others as will soon be done to satan — possibly even within hours.
Corey said
But I also believe that when the time comes.. no amount of praying and binding will stop what is to come. Revelation will come to pass and is beginning to now (or is on the verge of coming to pass). If we were able to stop all of this with praying and binding (which I do believe in by the way) then Revelation would not come to pass.
nomemoleste said
Corey, it’s not a matter of stopping the enemy.
It’s to rescue the lost and pull them out of the fire.
Our mission hasn’t changed. Help Jesus rescue the lost.
Including those that become the Great Multitude
that come out of Great Tribulation.
Let the holy angels deal with the damned.
Father God easily grants us the power to loose the lost
and bind the rebel angels and demons from again ensnaring them.
Especially when we agree. Looking for the faithful here, not doubters.
By lost I mean those that will be saved — that they dwell in the clutches
of darkness no longer than they have to.
And most certainly — everything we do — we do with Christ.
Without Him we can do nothing.
He’s willing that none should perish.
Not trying to help save those areas or the earth
– save the people out of them.
And an easy way to target those areas is this, one by one:
“http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sacred+site”
Amen.
Corey said
speaking of these churches in Revelation… I have been meaning to point out to every one here and to as many people as possible about the “Church of Laodicea”. Many people (I remember a comment by Moonpieeyes a few articles ago) believe that Christ will spew a true believer out of his mouth if he is not “overcoming” in his christian walk. Folks… if you are a true believer and you are truly saved, the Lord will not “spew” you out of his mouth. He does not do that to one of his kids (even if you are in some sort of backward motion in regards to sin). This is talking about non- believers (the unsaved). In this church this scripture of Laoedicea points out that these people think that they are in need of nothing. They think that they are as good as they need to be. They do not realize that they are poor blind and naked. As in… they do not have a covering for their lost, sinful condition that they were born into the world with that we all inherit from Adam. This hearkens back to the scripture that says… “Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof”. Paul Van Noy has done an excellent article on this on his “Candlelight Ministries” website and I tried to find the article but couldn’t find it. It was posted there about 2 weeks ago. When I get home, I am going to try and find it and post the link because it is extremely important to understand this concept of exactly who Christ was talking about when he stated that he would spew people out of his mouth. Paul Van Noy gave an important example of the negative effect that this misinterpreted scripture had on a Pastor of a major church. Proper understanding of this scripture is extremely important in ways you couldn’t imagine. It puts Christians in a works-driven trap of self-salvation and not trusting fully in the accomplished work of Christ on the cross. It’s more detailed than I have the room or time for on here… but those details are a MUST READ. The article itself is a MUST READ for all believers. Trust me. Maybe someone on here will hunt this article down before I do and post the link. Hopefully someone will… but if not… I will find it myself and post it. Note: I can already hear the scoffers saying that I am giving an excuse for Christians to live any way they want to live and fear no consequences. WRONG… there are consequences to living a rebellious life as a Christian, but as for salvation itself… God is not going to “Spew” you out of his mouth and send you to Hell. If he did that, then we cannot hope for Heaven after death and we then have no assurrance of anything but eternal suffering. On and on and on…READ THE ARTICLE IF YOU CAN HUNT IT DOWN; PAUL VAN NOY OF CANDLELIGHT MINISTRIES
Corey said
Nomemoleste… Yes. I totally agree with you on that. That would be the point of it all. I was more or less talking about stopping some of these things that are happening that will lead directly to the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Darla H. said
Yes..these things must come to pass but there are those who overcome…Revelations….By the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony….The blood of repentance is what this is speaking of…Christ speaks Repent Repent Repent to the churches…Why? There in lies the power of His Presence and protection upon us..How many go before the Lord on a regular basis and asked to be washed and confess our fault…He made a New and Living way through the blood so each and everyone of us could come before Him..this is open 24/7…How many really go before Him and ask to be washed in the blood ? How many teach their children this…This is in part why we overcome ..because we have a repenting spirit…and then the word of our testimony. The blood he is speaking about in the Book of revelations is the blood upon us because we have repented…We MUST MUST MUST go before him in a repentant heart…..(Yes we can call upon the blood in warfare but what Christ is saying here is they overcame by being washed in repentance blood and the word of their testimony) It is time to come before the Lord corporately and repent and if your heart is not there ask the Spirit to show you where you need to repent in your life…get clean before the Lord….
nomemoleste said
No repentance needed for those that have already repented, are saved, and not only walking with the Lord, but sharing in His mission. Many have prepared for this a long time.
Father God has his remnant in every nation, tribe, tongue and people. And He is most very well able to correct including those warned in the letters to the churches in Revelation 2 and 3. Not all were erring in the churches, and many likewise yielded to His correction. Look at the blessings to the Overcomers in each letter. Sending the letters via John was no futile effort on the part of Christ.
For the redeemed of the Church of Laodicea — and the rest — we give you Great Praise Father God, that in Jesus you have also reaped a great harvest that the enemy counted as their own!!!
Still more are coming!
Darla H. said
History show us that prior before there is a major move of Gods Spirit upon the face of this earth, there has always always always come a gathering of people who are travailing with a repent heart…..
Darla H. said
With any major REAL revival of God or refreshing of His Spirit…
nomemoleste said
Darla, repentence and prayer. The letters to the churches require repentence, that they turn away from false saviors, false pastoring, false prophecy, false teachings, false intercession, false public service, and false witness.
And turn instead to Christ, who saves, preaches, heals, delivers, truly intercedes, truly serves, and is the True and Faithful Witness.
The lost can’t save themselves. They just need to believe in Christ who has, is, and will save us fully and to the uttermost. Most notably through Grace.
It’s not repentence that saves. It’s Jesus. It’s not our belief. It’s His shared with us.
Let me help… as an example concerning:
- Enchanted Rock: Sacred to Tonkawa, Apache and Comanche Indians
- Guadalupe Peak: Mescalero Apache sacred mountain
Father God in Jesus name and for His Glory, and by His authority, even as He gave to the disciples when he sent then out by twos, that whatever network or communication or snare that is arrayed against the lost in Enchanted Rock and Guadalupe Peak be disrupted and cut. Not in the least as I ask for those who are my blood kin through the Comanche tribes, Lord God, that those that have been caught up in the doctrines of the damned be freed, and their eyes be opened that they see and hear the Word of God, even as you said that your lost sheep will hear your voice and believe. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by your word, who are the Word of God and the Spirit of Prophecy. That the prayer wheels and practices after the doctrines of the damned be no webs of deceit. That the sage and smoke house and familiar spirits be cut off from their families as they’re certainly saved with full assurance in the Word. Walking the walks of obedience, that their relations be healed. And that they no longer (speaking clearly of the lost who are saved) be caught up in cycles of drunkenness and addiction, but that they be completely delivered. No longer made to be slaves to seen nor abuse or violated by the rebel angels or their demon proxies. Truly freed to share in praise and prayer and sweet times of worship rising up to you as the fragrance of faith most pleasing. And that their lands where might be blood curses from generations even before the slaughters from the new world invaders, but back to the tribal wars and even before, that those curses be turned to blessings, restoring the original deed title as You intended, Lord God. That you give it again to whom will be good stewards with you. That they no longer be the tail, and the poor, and the weak, but as the meek that they inherit the earth. Always giving Honor to and Reverence to You as the Chief Justice beyond which there is no appeal.
These places no longer be able to be used by the enemy (rebel angels, their demonic offspring, or willing proxies) but rather be turned to new names and become a testimony for those living there, that they may render up to you the continuing bounty of their generations as long as remain.
Y’shua in your Name.
“http://www.ihopkc.org/prayerroom/”
nomemoleste said
typo not “slaves to seen” but “slaves to sin”
Looks like I pray phonetically.
Darla H. said
Nomemileste,
First of all when one gets saved it is because he is drawn by the Spirit and that is with a heart of repentance. Secondly we are in a relationship with God/Christ..it did not stop at salvation….Third if it was not important to Him then He would not have stated “Confess you sins one to another that ye may be healed” if it was NO BIG DEAL. This is the exact mindset I am speaking about…not REALLY thinking one needs to go before the Lord..that is why He made it easy for us through a NEW and Living way as the bible states…we have 24/7 access to the King…..Confessing and with a repentant heart before the Lord is HUGE……That is why good ol’ USA is where she is at today….because we do not really think this country need to repent….I mean we were founded on God and all…….
Darla H. said
repentance and confession go hand in hand
LookingUp said
Here we go again. Show me one instance in Scripture – all I’m asking for is one – where the Lord prayed against demons or places. He was standing right in front of the the Pan altar when He told the disciples the church would be founded upon faith in Him and the gates of hell would not stand against that. He didn’t pray against the demons that were there. He didn’t claim Mt. Hermon for the Kingdom and never told us to do it either. Nor did Paul or James or John or Peter. In fact, Jude 8-10 tells us explicitly “Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and revile angelic majesties. But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” But these men revile the things which they do not understand.” If the Lord had wanted us to do spiritual warfare against spiritual entities, He would have explained how to do it there instead of telling us not to do it at all.
Darla H. said
He is our High Priest….those are not just words…..our King and Priest……who rent the curtain and made a new and living way for us to be in His presence..24/7 .Sin separates us from God…So because of the New and Living way we go before and confess (repent) and He washes up in His Blood….it is not a work it is grace and a gift that we have access to Him….
Darla H. said
Lookingup,
WOW….how about the demons that ran into the pigs…READ THE NEW TESTAMENT…..He rebuked many and so did the disciples….you will get a slew of answers on this one…
Darla H. said
He came to heal, deliver,make the blind see and the lame to walk..HOLY MOSES looking up….ACTs, the Gospels NEW TESTAMENT….REALLY?
Darla H. said
WE WAR AND WIN AND THAT IS HOW THEY DO NOT PREVAIL…HOLY MOSES!!!!!!
nomemoleste said
LookingUp if answered, would you read it?
“http://lamarzulli.wordpress.com/2012/12/09/the-sunday-bun-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-77711″
“http://lamarzulli.wordpress.com/2012/12/09/the-sunday-bun-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-77720″
“http://lamarzulli.wordpress.com/2012/12/09/the-sunday-bun-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-77725″
“http://lamarzulli.wordpress.com/2012/12/09/the-sunday-bun-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-77739″
Darla H. said
Lookingup
I give you power over serpent and scorpions and over ALL the power of the enemy….(demons)
Darla H. said
Lookingup
Now all of our conversations make so much more sense…..WOW…..NEW TESTAMENT
Darla H. said
Mark Chapter 5…..WOW
Darla H. said
Sorry..I am shocked…New Testament is a good place to start….
Darla H. said
I am wondering “Which” bible your read…….sorry for the shock…after thinking about this I thought maybe you might be reading from a different bible or something…..
Pudding said
Darla H. I do not see where you answered her question, I think it is apparent what bible she reads, perhaps you did not understand her question?
Darla H. said
I am sorry but I thought she was asking to see one instant where the Lord came against a demon….I thought she was stating that she didn’t believe He was there to come against them…now I get what you are stating pudding…I was a bit shocked obviously….I however consider rebuking them is also a type of prayer…..
Darla H. said
I don’t know though….Lookingup…do you believe we have the authority to come against them?
Darla H. said
Lookingup .. Not all of the examples of what Christ did are contained in the New Testament…The word says if they were the world could not contain all the works He did….I was dealing with a woman who had been subject to cannibalism (SRA). During her deliverance the Lord had me take communion with her to reverse the curse of that act upon her life….I was lead by the Spirit to do so…that does not show up anywhere in the bible either….The Spirit will have you do things you do not expect…His ways are higher than ours…Look what He did with the prophets of old…spoke out of an ass ….wanted to to eat dung along with doing many other things and these act where acts of judgement…They were odd things to do but God knew the enemy and had a purpose even though the prophet might not have understood that whole process….being led by the Spirit can be quit strange at times. I was directed of the Lord to anoint my house…I did not know why…then He brought into my home a woman who had been subject to satanic abuse…..I went through all sorts of things that the Lord had me do…those things are not in the word but I was led by the Spirit….
Darla H. said
A n example of Gods people taking the land would be Jericho….Different TYPE of praying…but that was an example of coming against an actual area……TYPE and SHADOW in a way…
nomemoleste said
LU wrote: “If the Lord had wanted us to do spiritual warfare against spiritual entities, He would have explained how to do it there instead of telling us not to do it at all.”
He was quite specific on how to do it.
James 4
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God.
Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Mark 16
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe;
In my name shall they cast out devils;
they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents;
and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;
they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Luke 10
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying,
Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions,
and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
2 Corinthians 10
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal,
but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing
that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God,
and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ
Revelation 11 (re: the Two Witnesses binding and losing)
6 These have power to shut heaven,
that it rain not in the days of their prophecy:
and have power over waters to turn them to blood,
and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Psalm 69 (cp. “proud bulls of bashan re: Ps. 22 for v. 30)
28 Thy God hath commanded thy strength: strengthen, O God, that which thou hast wrought for us.
29 Because of thy temple at Jerusalem shall kings bring presents unto thee.
30 Rebuke the company of spearmen, the multitude of the bulls, with the calves of the people, till every one submit himself with pieces of silver: scatter thou the people that delight in war.
31 Princes shall come out of Egypt; Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hands unto God.
32 Sing unto God, ye kingdoms of the earth; O sing praises unto the Lord; Selah:
33 To him that rideth upon the heavens of heavens, which were of old; lo, he doth send out his voice, and that a mighty voice.
34 Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency is over Israel, and his strength is in the clouds.
35 O God, thou art terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel is he that giveth strength and power unto his people. Blessed be God.
Darla H. said
I am sorry but casting out devils is spiritual warfare if you have ever experienced it..
Darla H. said
I must tell you…when I was dealing with the woman that had been abused (SRA) yes there was casting of demons but it did not end there…Satan get mad when we take one back for the Lord….The next morning we looked out the window of my home had literally hundred of demons where floating around …hundreds…I began to pray and call upon the blood of the lamb (spiritual warfare) our spiritual eyes were oped to an actual tidal wave of blood that came from heaven and covered the property..when it subsided they came back…so did the tidal wave of blood…this went on for 45 minutes….no one can ever tell me we are not to do spiritual warefare.
LookingUp said
All of what God wants us to know about what Christ did is in the Bible, Darla. We don’t need to borrow strategies or methods from new agers, devil worshipers or any other pagan.
The pigs WERE IN A PERSON. Do you not read anything I say? You consistently grab a word and go someplace that has nothing to do with what I said. What part of delivering a PERSON do you not understand? He took authority over the demon in that PERSON. He came to minister to PEOPLE, not take dominion over the demonic realm over on some hot spot somewhere. He could have done it. He didn’t. We’re not told to do it either.
He is our High Priest who made one sacrifice that is applied one time, it is not a continual going to the throne to be washed in the blood. One time. Done. Law verses grace. Lambs verses THE Lamb of God. Jesus, total, completely cleansed us of all sin. We are now seen with Christ’s righteousness. If there any sin we committed still had the power to separate us from God, the Holy Spirit could not indwell us. We are before the throne already 24/7 because Christ is in us. That couldn’t happen if any sin we made as a believer still had the power to separate us from God. The Holy Spirit is not a Holy Yo-Yo. We are sealed once and for all. Jesus – Jesus – Jesus said He would never leave us or forsake us. He did it all. Of course we need to repent – change our direction, an action, not just a word – not because that sin separates us, but because if we’re going in the wrong direction, we cannot be transformed in that area to be like Christ.
You say you believe that Jesus did it all, but you write that you don’t. You are double minded.
Darla H. said
THAT IS NOT IN THE BOOK BUT IT IS REAL AND DID HAPPEN……
Darla H. said
you asked to be shown where Jesus prayed against demons or place….And the pigs where not in the person the demons where if you want to get down to it.
Darla H. said
The old testament was a foreshadowing of things to come….when the children of God where told to go in and “take the land”..they were going into enemy camp…these were ALL types and shadows for us in the spirit….THEY HAD TO TAKE THE LAND…..for peat sake am I the only one who believes this on this site?
nomemoleste said
ps. the Psalms re: bulls and Bashan was 68 vice 69
Psalm 69 definitely also shares in the experience of the Crucifixion, like Ps. 22, while Ps. 68 deals with the mountains of Bashan, including Hermon, including this:
Ps. 68 (re: Zion)
15 The hill of God is as the hill of Bashan; an high hill as the hill of Bashan.
16 Why leap ye, ye high hills? this is the hill which God desireth to dwell in;
yea, the LORD will dwell in it for ever.
17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels:
the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.
The commentaries are excellent!
“http://bible.cc/psalms/68-30.htm”
Going up to the high places… to tear the devils kingdom down.
Darla H. said
EVERY where the children of God went after going into the promise land they HAD TO FIGHT FOR IT> TAKE THE LAND …it was a type and shadow of things to come……we take the land in the spirit realmm
LookingUp said
Nome, calming a storm doesn’t mean the Lord took dominion over anything other than the sea. He made it. He can order it around.
All I want is Scripture that tells us to deal with the powers of darkness on a level that does not involve a person. That’s all. So far, nothing. 2 Cor 10:3-5 is dealing with the strong holds of the mind that keep people from the knowledge of God. Read it in context. The Greek – “of the arguments and reasonings by which a disputant endeavors to fortify his opinions and defend it against his opponent.”
I’m sorry, but I don’t have the time to read all of your back comments.
nomemoleste said
LookingUp… why a personal attack re: “you are double minded,” (against Darla)?
LookingUp said
Nooo, Darla. I said show me Scripture where Christ dealt with demons who were not in people. The demons that were in the pigs came out of a person.
Because, Nome, she says Jesus did it all, but then she says that we have to continually ask to be cleansed by His blood, previous posts that we can loose our salvation, etc. It wasn’t an attack.
LookingUp said
It was the land, Darla. They had to conquer it to live there. You say you don’t believe in Dominion theology, but this is exactly what it is.
Darla H. said
Here we go…#1 concerning repentance, sin and confession
1 Timonthy 5:24
Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
Here he is stating that when one man confesses it is already judged but some men there sins will follow after ……What is the point of this statement ? Repentance and confession is important to the Lord for our sake…I do not want mine following in after….
2 There are 2 different types of warfare that is spoken about in the New Testament. The warfare of the mind and actual warfare. 2Corinthiana 10″3-5 is the warfare of the mind. 1Timothy 4:1 the enemy send seducing spirits to blind the eyes of our minds….
and Ephisians 6:10-12 is actual spiritual warfare against the ones in high places.
Darla H. said
They had to fight the enemy to take the land…it was a foreshadowing…Yesterday I gave you scripture…actual scripture about being cut off…I did not write that…it is in the book
Darla H. said
and read your own first sentence in your first reply…that is not “how” you stated it.
amaezed said
Darla, I’m with you! ‘The Handbook of Spiritual Warfare’ by Dr. Ed Murphy is FULL of scriptural basis. ‘The Supernatural Battle’ by Richard Grund is fantastic and addresses the topic of this thread in the Intro.
I have found tremendous opposition to deliverance ministry, esp. in the ‘church.’ The devil hates it.
Darla, I have SRA ministry experience too. IMO there is no way for anyone to understand unless they’ve been there. God bless you most abundantly!
Darla H. said
THANKYOU!!!! I figure if I can get enough scripture in context ..she will see..
THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT TYPES OF WARFARE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.!!!!
The battle field of the mind and the actual spiritual realm battlefield…whew!
thanks amaezed..,,Holy Moses! I thought I was the only one out there for a bit..and don’t these men go and deal with portals and such… holy cow? How can you be on this site and not believe this?..
Darla H. said
headin for the radio show…be back soon
nomemoleste said
LookingUp, re: Job… I take it that satan controlled the storm that killed Job’s sons…. You clearly don’t want to discuss such things.
I’m really not interested in dominionism. Couldn’t care less about it. I think you want to make that an issue.
I am interested as are most here in what LA Marzulli, Richard Grund, Russ Dizdar and such are doing regarding the war we’re in. To me it’s mostly a matter of working the rescue side, which is front lines.
Do you disagree with them? Or FaithfulElect? On spiritual warfare? If so why are you here?? What’s your intent?
I’m more than happy to let the Holy Angels do the light work of mopping up the enemy (rebel angels, their demon offspring, and wicked collective spirits). Since it takes them a while to get around, even at the speed of light, I’m happy to do what an on-scene commander, ambassador, warrior should do regarding clearing out enemy interference. All 3 have authority.
On to the tonite’s event…. more later.
amaezed said
Darla, a sample of the table of contents from Ed Murphy’s book (just 140 pp. approx. out of 600 pages):
PART FOUR: A SURVEY OF BIBLICAL TEACHING (NEW
TESTAMENT)
SECTION I: JESUS ENCOUNTERS THE DEVIL AND DEMONS
36. The Temptation
37. In the Synagogue: Mark 1
38. Among the Tombs: Mark 5
SECTION II: THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH ENCOUNTERS DEMONS
39. Foundations and Lessons From a Failure: Mark 9
40. The Success of the Seventy: Luke 10
41. Beginnings in Acts: Acts 2, 4
42. Ananias and Sapphira: Acts 5
43. Philip’s Ministry at Samaria and Peter’s Encounter With
Simon Magus: Acts 8
44. Paul’s Encounter With Elymas and the Spirit Medium of
Philippi: Acts 13, 16
45. Idolatry at Athens & Corinth: Acts 17, 1 Corinthians 8–10
46. The Nature of Power Encounters
47. Power Encounters at Ephesus: Acts 19
SECTION III: SPIRITUAL WARFARE IN THE EPISTLES AND REVELATION
48. Galatians, 1 and 2 Thessalonians
49. 1 and 2 Corinthians, Romans, and the Pastoral Epistles
50. Colossians and Ephesians
51. Ephesians 6
LookingUp said
That’s the point, Darla. You can’t get enough Scripture in context because there’s not any. Anybody can write a handbook about anything taking Scripture out of context. Happens all the time.
I never said deliverance isn’t Scriptural – never. Jesus did. We’re to do it. But it’s about delivering PEOPLE, not PLACES.
You’re right about me asking Nome to show me where the Lord prayed against demons or places. It was a typo and should have been “demons in places.” That’s what his post was about.
I replied to your comment yesterday about the Romans 11 verse. Like Israel, our disobedience can cut us off from God’s goodness, but it does not cut us off from being His chosen children because “the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable.” Rom 11:29
It’s all spiritual warfare regardless of where it is. Ephesians 6 is very specific and does at no time tell us to go on the offensive taking dominion over demonic forces in places. We are to stand firm against it – not charge the high places. We are told “With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints.” Does it say with THIS in view – pray against demonic presence and activity in high places”? No it does not.
LookingUp said
Seems to me, Nome, that I’m discussing it a lot. I didn’t know participants of this blog had to rubber stamp everything that LA or Russ or anyone else says. All I’m doing is asking for Scripture. I’m not making dominion an issue; it IS an issue. Taking authority over demonic forces in a place and not people is dominion theology whether you agree that it is or not.
Pudding said
What a long thread for a simple question….just think if you can’t answer the question easily this will be a good time to learn how, if at all.
Darla H. said
as I stated…. They had to fight the enemy to take the land…it was a foreshadowing…The whole book was about that….they had to fight the enemy to take the land….too many scriptures…..on earth as it is in heaven….
and yes the gifts and callings are irrevocable but we use those here on earth…we will not need healing in heaven(age to come)…they were for our use in this age…. i took you to the scriptures about being cut of i do not “write” them..they are inspired by the Holy ghost not me
Darla H. said
and to add…: It is the goodness of God that leads people to repentance”
nomemoleste said
LookingUp,
Does that mean you think LA, Richard, and Russ are involved in D.T.?
nomemoleste said
Luke 9 (very like Isa. 61 and Luke 4)
1 Then he called his twelve disciples together,
and gave them power and authority over all devils,
and to cure diseases.
2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God,
and to heal the sick.
As for limiting that power and authority…
2 Timothy 3
5 Having a form of godliness,
but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Why would you want to even try to do that, Lookingup?
Darla H. said
No D.T They are “The Sons of God” warring on the face of this earth taking back the Kingdom…The kingdom of God suffers violence and the VIOLENT take it by force…..Violent is not a dormant soldier hangin about…
That scripture is offensive and offensive move
Linda said
Darla an indepth study of “Repent” in the Bible teaches us that it’s most used as a “change of mind”, even GOD repented. Did he have to have sorrow for sin? Of course not he had a change of mind. Grk.Repent= a change of mind, what were you believing in and trusting in before you heard the Word of GOD. Change your mind realize yor depravity and inability to save yourself, the complete damnation for your sin and ONLY Jesus and His shed Blood Atonement and Resurrection to Glory applied to the receiver/believer in Him can have eternal life, imputed with His
Righteousness, be IN Christ a mystery kept secret with God before the Foundations of the World, (Eph.) not even known by the prophets, or the Apostles until Jesus revealed it to Paul on the road to Damascus and taught him GOD’s Mystery to make one new man of both Jew and Gentile. NOT many Denominations, but One Church/One Body! There is the “church” and there are assemblies/synagogues. We need to know the difference. The Rev. “churches” were the assemblies/synagogues. Paul was sent to the Gentiles/the Apostle to the Gentiles, and Peter, James, Matt. Mark etc. were sent by Jesus only to the House of Israel. Remember they were also dispersed not all resided in Jerusalem! We are called sons (now are we sons) they are always called servants. A son can be a servant, but a servant can not be son.
Darla H. said
then I guess the Son of God cannot be the Son of God because he called himself a servant……..if I have interpreted you right and you are calling gentiles sons and Israel a servant….
LookingUp said
It is God’s gifts and callings that are irrevocable. God’s gift and calling of being called, of being chosen, of being part of the elect because of God’s purpose. Obviously, “in context” is a concept that you are unwilling to grasp.
Dominion, dominion, dominion. You say you don’t believe in it, haven’t been influenced by it, but you go there every time. Doesn’t matter that I’ve shown you scripture after scripture that say EVERY believer is a son of God.
The original question: show it to me in plain sense Scripture. No “elevated” revelation, no spiritualization of a simple process. If the plain sense makes sense look for no other sense lest you wind up with nonsense. Lots of nonsense going on here.
I don’t know, Nome. Are they? I had no idea that you had to believe in taking dominion over demons and other new age crap to be able to understand UFO and Nephilim. If that’s the case, then I’m outa here.
Darla H. said
and for Lookingup… Remenber the old being a foreshadowing of the new….in all the Wars that the Israelite s fought remember they would WIN until there was sin in the camp and then they would have to do sacrifices and get right before the Lord? They had to repent to get back into right standing before they could win the battles? The same is for todays battles….only we now have a new and living way by being able to “come to the thrown boldly before the thrown of grace to relieve mercy and obtain justice”…no more animal sacrifice….just going before God and confessing and receiving mercy…we still have a part to do He just made a new and living way…Repenting and asking forgiveness never went away it just became easy to get to The King…
For if he had not found fault with the first covenant there would be no need for a second…that is what is says in hebrews..
Even king David AFTER HE REPENTED of murder was the apple of Gods eye…..
LookingUp said
What are you talking about? Where did I say anything about Gentiles being sons and Israel being a servant? The Son of God cannot be the Son of God because he called himself a servant??? I have quoted Scripture Gal 3:26, Gal 4:6, for example, that say it is through faith in Christ that we become sons of God because He adopts us.
Darla H. said
Repenting , confessing and receiving mercy never went away…He brought the final sacrifice so we did not have to shed the blood of animals anymore…He IS the SPOTLESS LAMB…..repenting never went away when you got saved a once and for all thing….it is still a practical application…it says work out your salvation in fear and trembling until salvation comes……we still have to walk it out not just sit around and wait for Glory and when we sin say o well I have Glory….we still must go before the thrown…..
Darla H. said
Lookingup the gentiles thing was for Linda and I forgot to put her name..
LookingUp said
Christ changed it all. It’s by grace we’re saved through faith, and even that faith is a GIFT of God – and irrevocable gift of God. Complete. Total. Done We received mercy when we first believed and remain in it because we immediately become in Christ. Adopted. Sealed. With the righteousness of Christ. God sees us through Christ-righteousness-colored glasses. We are to repent to continue to become more and more like Christ; not to receive mercy because we already have it and it’s irrevocable.
We are saved by grace and we are kept by grace. We did nothing of ourself to receive it, and we can do nothing of ourself to keep it. That’s what the Bible says if you take the time to read it all.
I’m going to bed..
nomemoleste said
Hey Darla, the book of Hebrews is a really good reason to repent.
Besides being an excellent Father, well able to correct His children, there’s that whole deal about being a prodigal and wanting to come back even as a servant rather than muck around in the elements with the pigs.
So while access to throne is available (thinking about queen Esther), it’s even better to be able to climb up in Abba’s chair with Him in the Household of God.
Of course, we need a bit of footwashing… both in the sense of serving each other and the “washing of the water of the Word.”
Grace & Peace
(ps. LookingUp … I can tell you’ve had a long day. Let’s start over from scratch tomorrow or when next opportune)
Darla H. said
Yes…you are saved by grace and the good news is you have access to the Thrown 24/7….He made a new and living way to the thrown and you have access to it BECAUSE you are saved…..now throughput the rest of your life because you and are are not perfect and we do sin….we can come before the King and ask Him for forgiveness and He washes us in His blood….if we go throughout our lives and never do this then that protection is slowly lifting off of our lives just as it has lifted from protecting the USA and we sit and wonder what is happening….”They overcame by the blood” When Israel sinned they couldn’t win in battle but when they came before the Lord and repented..God gave mercy by letting them defeat the enemy.
Darla H. said
Nome, same book I was going to mention
Darla H. said
amaezed…sorry I never replied earlier but I felt compelled to keep going with lookingup…It was pretty intense and I am praying for her that her eyes may be opened to the truth concerning repentance and spiritual warfare which in fact go hand and hand if you want to win the war.
LindaFromToronto said
Hello Everyone — a quick prayer request, if you feel led. A very dear aunt has slipped, fallen and has cracked a vertebrae. She will be in hospital for a while, has had so much to deal with recently, and now this. She (Diana) also has osteoporosis. Many thanks, and God bless each of you.
Eric W. said
Praying!
LookingUp said
Praying.
LindaFromToronto said
Thank you so much, dear Eric and dear LookingUp! Also a thank-you from the heart to anyone who may have prayed/will pray, but doesn’t post. It is sincerely appreciated.
Pudding said
I had a relative who went through that not long ago,osteoporosis,she broke bones on a few different occasions, how painful. In prayer for Diana.
Kristen said
Praying
LindaFromToronto said
Pudding and Kristen, thank you both also! I don’t mean to clog the blog with “thank-you’s” but I sincerely appreciate everyone’s prayers. Signing off now.
Gordy said
Police and media over-run Bugarach
December 20, 2012
THERE are now more journalists than inhabitants in Bugarach, Aude, the village predicted to be the only place that will be spared in tomorrow’s apocalypse.
In all, 254 journalists from all over the world have been accredited to cover the village of 200 inhabitants in the run-up to December 21, the date when internet-fuelled New Age rumours claim the world will end. The date is said to correspond to the end of the current era in the ancient Mayan calendar.
There are also around 100 gendarmes patrolling the streets and blocking off the mountain top of the Pic de Bugarach which is a focus of interest. Some believers claim there is an alien spacecraft under it. Police potholers have been checking out caves under it which will also be kept under guard.
Major security measures are in place around a perimeter including three other villages, with road checkpoints, a security headquarters, a team of counsellors and a helicopter evacuation point. Various restrictions have been ordered, including on hunting, hiking, holding “giant apéros”, camping, and parking along roads.
However, Le Figaro said this excitement is probably “for nothing” because so far hardly anyone else has turned up.
It said the expected floods of people have not materialised though a handful of “cranks” who have made the trip are thrilled to be receiving so much attention from the film crews on Bugarach’s streets.
One man, calling himself “Oriana”, told journalists the coming apocalypse would not be “the end of the world”, but would be “a revelation, an internal alchemy that will descend into each of our bodies – like 1,000 orgasms in one go.”
It remains to be seen if more people arrive on the day itself.
Pudding said
Revelation by a 1,000 orgasms, if I was a crank that is what I would wish for.
LookingUp said
Pudding, I’m shocked. Oh, that’s right; you’re a guy.
Pudding said
Eric W. said
I think Pudding may have slipped a little nip of something in that coffee.
LookingUp said
A little? Maybe he forgot the coffee.
nomemoleste said
Here’s one for Matt… “cattle ear eater cryptid”
“http://www.wave3.com/story/20342605/mystery-animal-attacking-livestock”
Reminds me of those seagulls in the south Atlantic that eat chunks of flesh off the back of whales.
nomemoleste said
not to be confused of course with goat suckers (chupa cabras)
Pudding said
It would be a chupa orejas. Where is Matt on another expedition?
nomemoleste said
hehe, I can see him in a jungle helmet and shorts with a really biggg butterfly net
Late Night Lisa said
A couple of quotes from the Myan article:
Robert Bast, a New Zealander living in Melbourne who wrote a book called “Survive 2012″ on how to cope with the possible catastrophe, believes the Maya may have sent out a warning.
“The most likely thing for me is a solar storm, but that’s not going to kill you straight away. It’s more of a long term disaster,” said Bast, 47, noting a flu pandemic could also strike the planet. “I feel the world isn’t as safe as we think it is. The last couple of generations have had it very cosy.”
……………………
“This is the Arab Spring of the spiritual movement,” said Geoffrey Ocean Dreyer, a 52-year-old U.S. musician wearing a sombrero and mardi gras beads. “We’re going to create world peace. We’re going to Jerusalem and we’re going to rebuild Solomon’s temple.”
(Right out of the book of Revelation – how dumb can you get. ‘Long term disaster – create world peace.’ Da-da-da-da! )
hopeful_watcher said
I pulled this from an article talking about the Mayan change to the new age.
Quote ==========
Violeta Simarro, a secretary from Perpignan, France, took shelter under a nearby awning and noted that the new age won’t necessarily be all peaches and cream.
“It will be a little difficult at first, because the world will need a complete ‘nettoyage’ (cleaning), because there are so many bad things,” she said.
=============
Cleansing? Riiiight?!? That is you and me folks. All those waskly nay sayers holding back their acsension.
It will be a horrific Christian holocaust.
Kristen said
I got my Watcher 5 DVD set today
Tonight’s show was powerful and I feel blessed and encouraged. The prayer time was beautiful and much needed.
Eric W. said
Blessed and encouraging show big time. Definitely appreciated the prayer at the end, too.
nomemoleste said
An hour on Acceleration Radio goes by so quickly!!
LA said that they’d do a 10 city conference tour if folks want to organize.
“http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/maya”
7 hours and 50 minutes till the mayan calendar ends becomes ancient history!
Linda said
In the ancient time of the Old & New Testament, the term used was heavens, and signs and wonders, signs in the heavens. No, no portal mentioned, but do you really think that the men of that day would’ve used that specific word? I think the most concerning word of warning to the Brethern of the House of Israel and to those Believers & Body of Christ was do not be deceived! We do not understand theses things completely, but every day the Holy Spirit helps us see a little clearer. Why can’t there be a portal? These Fallen Angelic beings came to the high places from somewhere we know not where. Satan has some authority to go to and fro and in and out of GOD’s throne room as it were. Until Jesus asserts His authority on Earth. Satan will be soon kicked out and banished from access to the third heaven and stuck in our atmosphere. I think it’s when GOD declares time’s up, final believers during Grace are coming in and the rest are cut off from that Dispensation. Then the judgement begins and those caught in it undecided are going to have a struggle to keep the Faith and themselves pure like NO other time in History! The Law will be reinstated, but salvation as always will still be by Faith. To Identify sin and by Faith and keeping themselves w/o spot and wrinkle until the 2nd coming or death(Tribulation martyrs)which ever comes first for them. They will not be sealed by the HS, but He will be upon/with them like with David. Jesus received by His Brethern the elect and He saving them. If satan worshippers, Luciferians, worship and pray to their Master and he assists them and makes himself present either by fallen angels, or himself unseen, then why not they enter invited into our realm/atmosphere by a portal. Signs and wonders in the heavens 1st & 2nd heavens. A portal, asking them to enter into our earth/dominion. Who exactly knows it is or is not true, or possible? I’d like to hear them and on what authority.
Darla, (I think it was) there’s only ONE Revelation, not Revelations. Jesus made this Revelation to John on the Isle of Patmos to leave a warning of what’s going to take place in detail at the end of this system. Before the 1000 yr reign on earth with his 12 Tribes ruling with Him and peoples, with the saints that make it out of it alive. We also will be with Him because where the head is so is the body! We are His Body, and He is our head. This may seem trivial, but the New Agers and Liberal “Christians” think it’s ongoing, being added to, open for interpretation and a new word etc. The Bible interprets the Bible, “first mention” so we can know the meaning along with context. We should sound more learned than the heathen when it comes to GOD’s Word/Jesus the Living Word/Logos.
Just wanted to mention that because I hear non believers use that all the time, but I don’t expect tham to know. 
I hope this is not taken in an offensive way.
I liked reading that article and I am not afraid of hearing the new age ” babble” I recognise their terms and they are so subtle like Satan in mixing a little truth with mostly lies from hell. Just be careful to check things against scripture before swallowing the thoughts. Mostly the HS will rise up and an alarm will go off that something is amiss and if a new believer, be doublely cautious! Like bank tellers re. counterfits study the real and you recognize the fakes, but nice to know what they think and believe, how else can you engage people if you don’t know what they are exposed to in regard to beliefs. We are all really speculating in what’s coming unless Jesus made it clear in scripture, and there’s another thing, scripture/Bibles have been corrupted. Just by copyright laws 10% has to be changed or ommitted and the notorious NIV is a good example of severe corruption!
I like the KJB because it can’t be changed, protected under copyright law etc.
nomemoleste said
I love the KJV probably because I’m and audible learner and it was written for the ear. Very easy to remember. I also recognize that it’s really tough for the folks that have spanish as a first language. And I can’t say that I like opera or Shakespeare, but of course both have quite a following.
Minor polishing point… I’m interested to see how you’ll deal with it.
My read is that it’s those that were martyred under the conditions given that get to reign with Christ 1000 years. Resurrected yes.
God is not the God of the dead as regards v. 5. For instance Moses, on the Mount of Transfiguration (in his very much alive spiritual body). So it’s the dead, meaning unsaved that take part in the 2nd resurrection, after the millennial kingdom.
Your take?
Darla H. said
Linda..you wrote that whole paragraph because I called the book of Revelation the book of Revelation”s”….REALLY…… GEEZE REALLY….No new ager here….really sorry for the “s” then …
Darla H. said
Ok so this is what you wrote to me before:
There is the “church” and there are assemblies/synagogues. We need to know the difference. The Rev. “churches” were the assemblies/synagogues. Paul was sent to the Gentiles/the Apostle to the Gentiles, and Peter, James, Matt. Mark etc. were sent by Jesus only to the House of Israel. Remember they were also dispersed not all resided in Jerusalem! We are called sons (now are we sons) they are always called servants. A son can be a servant, but a servant can not be son.
and this was my reply to you
:then I guess the Son of God cannot be the Son of God because He called himself a servant……..if I have interpreted you right and you are calling gentiles sons and Israel a servant…. and you think I may be a new Ager?
Darla H. said
to add …Peter went to Cornelius’s house… a gentile….remember the vision and Peter being told it was ok to eat ……..
Darla H. said
Linda,
your quote form above:
“We should sound more learned than the heathen when it comes to GOD’s Word/Jesus the Living Word/Logos.
It should read we should “BE” more learned than the heathen…….that one worked for you though..
HOLY COW!!! and that is sacrilegious!
richard said
Sorry LA I didnt notice that you posted that article at the bottom. Very eye opening
Darla H. said
see my message above
Darla H. said
Did anyone listen to George last night? China won’t sign the treaty unless the USA makes the USA civilians give up our guns…….”civilians”
Jimmy D. said
George Noory?
Matt said
Yes, I believe he played one of the Klingons in the original Star Trek series
Darla H. said
Yes