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Acceleration Radio: Dr. Preston Bailey – Satanic Ritual Abuse

Posted by lamarzulli on December 29, 2010

Dr. Bailey has graduated from the largest seminary in the world- Southerwestern Baptist Seminary with a Master of Divinity, Luther Rice Seminary with a Doctor of Ministry, and Biblical Life College and Seminary with a PhD. In Counseling.

He was the Producer and Host of “THE CHRISTIAN COUNSELOR” and “IMPROVING YOUR FAMILY LIFE” which was a weekly television program on the ACTS Network. He has been on numerous television shows and spoken on the occult, Satanic Ritual Abuse, and prayer in Europe, Canada, and throughout the United States. Dr. Bailey is on the board of directors of several Christian Counseling centers in North America that specialize in childhood trauma, demonization, and dissociation. 

For many years, he was appointed by different governors as Chairman of the Task Force on Child Abuse and Chairman of the Juvenile Anti-crime Task Force and has assisted law enforcement agencies in occult crimes.

He is the author of “SPIRITUAL WARFARE: Defeating the Forces of Darkness” and has written for the family magazine “HOMELIFE.”

http://spiritualwarfarecenter.com/warfare_004.htm

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57 Responses to “Acceleration Radio: Dr. Preston Bailey – Satanic Ritual Abuse”

  1. I just wanted to say once more that I am proud of you. You are doing more than you know and more than you understand is being accomplished. People look over my shoulder at your work and ask questions. People awaken to someone that dares put themselves out there in the spotlight even if they could be ridiculed. BLESS YOU MY BROTHER and CARRY ON!

    • Captain Eagle said

      This is for Richard –

      I have deeply researched the background of Saint Nicholas and Santa Claus, both from liberal and conservative places and the post you left on the matter is incorrect on a number of points. According to several sources I’ve read Saint Nicholas was the most popular saint during the middle ages to the point where he only rivaled Mary and Jesus. There were even more children and churches named for him than all the postles combined. He was never a fringe figure.

      The modern Santa Claus did not originate with Thomas Nast. Nast built upon several hundred years of tradition from multiple European nations to craft his version of the figure but we can clearly see he was in use nearly 50 years prior to Nast if only for the famouse Night Before Christmas poem (which was written by a pastor!!)

      By the time Sunbloom started doing his Santa Claus for Coca-Cola that figure was already well established and in fact Coke had been using Santa Claus in their ads for several years before Sunbloom became involved. It is a myth that Coca-Cola created Santa Claus.

      That said, the Saint Nicholas figure was a real man who fought for the divinity of Christ, He was at the Council of Nicea and debated with a Bishop on the Divinity of Christ to the point of frustration so he punched him in the nose before Constintine. This offense was punishable by death yet he did it because he knew Christ was divine! There are several factual stories about the man we know are true that are like this and this is a man we should not shy away from studying and learning from. How many of you would risk your life for your faith? St. Nicolas did just that numberous times.

      St. Nicholas Day was only combined with Christmas because in the late 1800’s it was customary for the poor to beg for food at the homes of the wealthy and several of the prominent New York families were annoyed by this so they began to merge the two customs into oe day (Dec. 25) and made Santa Claus out to be a robber baron like they were only he came to YOUR home and gave you things for free. It had nothing to do with paganism.

      I’m sorry if I have angered anyone but I do get irritated by the ignorance of Santa = Satan (when Santa is simply a word for Saint) that I see ongoing in Christian circles. I merely want to educate on the matter.

    • Bozz said

      Actually here in Europe, we celebrate the 6th of December as St. Nicholas day. As a kid growing up in a catholic family, we never celebrated christmas as you do with santa claus. We got our presents on the morning of the 6th of december but we had the christmas tree there for christmas. But gradually with globalization all that changed. So, st. Nicholas has nothing to do with santa claus like you said, but they merged them together. But the season is still the same. In communist Russia, they invented “Grandpa Frost” or “Jack Frost” (so it reads in dictionary). They were communist but they were not willing to give the pagan festival away, just gave the poor fella a new name lol. Isn`t it interesting that the majority of Christians and non-believers(atheists,…) celebrate santa claus and christmas nowadays? Same day of festivity but the element of faith excluded on one side.

      How the word saint turned out to be santa is beyond me. What if the rulers of darkness, the spiritual wickedness in high places, coined that term from saint to santa, just to make fun of us (because we were and still are so ignorant to adopt a pagan custom) and subliminally insert satans name? Just a thought.

    • richard said

      I agree with your comments Bozz St. Nicholas had nothing to do with Santa Claus.

    • Bozz said

      Captain Eagle I humbly propose that you also research the yule log, nimrod and tammuz and the connection with christmas today. You will be astonished.

    • Captain Eagle said

      The reason why atheists and nonbelievers celebrate Christmas and try to take Christ out of the holiday is because they want what we have but will never admit it so they hink if they seize Christmas and remove the Christ out of it then it’ll be okay. There are Jews and JW’s who celebrate Christmas too. Only in modern times did Christ’s Mass become a festival centered around the family.

      I will also note Charles Dickens book A Christmas Carol as an example. Everyone acknowledges that this book is the catalyst for the modern Christmas celebration but few bother to read it. I challenge all of the folks here to read this book because I’m sure you will be stunned to find it steeped in Biblical reference and analogy, most of which is stripped from the adaptations. What Charles Dickens wrote was a tact to win people to Christ and that is clear from what he wrote (if you can find a copy that hasn’t been edited.) I was floored when I saw so many passages in the text that I HADN’T seen used in one of the numerous film adaptations. But like the Christ in Christmas they have removed the Christ from A Christmas Carol even though it is plainly in there clear as day.

      Santa is Spanish for Saint. That’s how Santa became Saint. To suggest that this translation of the word has some Satanic meaning behind it to mock Christians is extremely paranoid and purely asinine.

      Saint Nicholas became Santa Claus because the Dutch called him Sinter Clouse. After they immigrated to America Washington Irving, among others, wrote it as Santa Claus and that is where the name came from. The other figures like Pierre Noel, Father Christmas, Father Frost, (Martin Luther even had the Krist Kindle which became the name Kris Kringle) etc. were all present but melded in the great American melding pot to form the figure of Santa Claus. Whenever I have used Santa Claus in my writings I have continued the advocate of Christ that Saint Nicholas was but have applied it to the modern figure we know. Both nonbelievers and Christians have chastised me for this but I could care less. Santa Claus is a Christian man with Christian ideals since he is based on a real man who held the same values. The various things we associate with the Santa Claus legend came from various places much like the American folk figures of Pecos Bill, Paul Bunyan, and John Henry. I have seen people try to tie aspects of Santa Claus with ancient gods like Odin (he rose an 6 legged horse and checked up on peasants to reward or punish) but these associations are shaky at best. I have looked into this stuff in great detail for 20+ years and from both Christian and secular sources All I’ve ever seen are associations like this where you have Odin doing that so they say Santa Claus much have descended from him. Before we can say there is a link to any ancient practice we need to see a conclusive chain from ancient times to now that can be traced and proven that these practices are one and the same. Not two practices involving trees so they are once and the same. That case isn’t even coincidental.

      I have researched the Yule Log and again like the Christmas tree this is a tradition that ceased in ancient times and a modern tradition starting up that some are trying to tie together with a sinister meaning. Here in America we don’t even do the Yule Log but multiple TV airings of a log burning in the fireplace and quite frankly here is why we see it practiced in modern times. To most people a fire is associated with Christmas because of the imagery of family gathered around the fireplace. It has nothing to do with paganism, but family gathering. Once again I say just because in ancient times there was a pagan practice involving fire and a burning log do we now have to say that all fires are pagan? This is what I’m talking about.

    • Christie Chiomento said

      Thank you very much, Captain Eagle, for all the research you’ve done about St. Nick–I had to laugh out loud at the idea of St. Nicholas punching some Bishop, who didn’t believe in the Deity of Christ, in the nose out of frustration, at the Counsel of Nicea–what a concept!–and, yes, defending the faith in Christ, even in the face of death, is exactly what we are expected to do, nothing less!–I have run into the very same problem on another board, with those who fear St. Nick, or the very idea of the character of Santa Claus, and who also fear “Santa” is just another word for satan–it’s frustrating for me, too, to try and reason with those who so fear satan that trusting in Christ first, and foremost seems to be the last thing on their minds, so they do not approach these subjects in the spirit of the love of Christ, but do so with the anger that too often accompanies their responses–I do not approve of parents pretending Santa is a real personage, but only because I’ve been a believer in Christ for decades now–young, or new, believers probably have a huge problem with understanding how in the world they are to address the non-existence of a beloved character that every other child their children know actually believe him to be real!–it’s a knotty problem for parents, and one that does not need others pointing angry fingers at them over it, and telling them just how evil the whole tale of Santa ‘really is’–I’m trying my best to deal with just such a situation over on another message board, and about the best thing we can do is to simply love those who are so upset at it all, and pray for all of us who attempt to defend the faith in Christ against an unrelenting, unbelieving world–the Lord can help where no one else really can. Thanks, again.

    • Shauna said

      Something To Consider
      Who Is This Describing?

      His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow……
      Who is this that cometh……..red in thine apparel…
      And his feet….as if they burned in a furnace……
      Is not this the carpenter………..
      His house……was towards the north…
      ….who rideth upon the heaven in thy help……

      Ho, ho….saith……
      And many believed on him……

      Santa?????????

      No, actually – Jesus Christ
      KJV Verses in order of snippets above:
      Revelation 1:14
      Isaiah 63:2
      Revelation 1:15
      Mark 6:3
      Ezekiel 8:14
      Deuteronomy 33:26
      Zechariah 2:6
      John 10:42
      However the whole ‘Santa’ thing started…it started – People tell their children Santa is real and then the kids eventually find out they were lied to ……I wonder who else they may think is being lied about…..? That’s when we stopped ‘doing the Santa thing’.

      Info taken from: http://www.biblebelievers.com/watkins_santa/santa.html

    • Bozz said

      “Once again I say just because in ancient times there was a pagan practice involving fire and a burning log do we now have to say that all fires are pagan?”

      No, not all fires are pagan just that particular pagan practice that involved a yule log burning in the fire on dec the 24th or 25th. It was a symbol to the pagans and symbols have meanings. A pagan practice that Semiramis supposedly invented by claiming that Nimrod came back from the dead in the form of an evergreen tree that is actually Tammuz. And it all represents sun worship. Now, if people forget the meaning of symbols and pagan practices over time but still use them because of tradition, do they cease to be an abomination in the sight of God? Similar like those masonic symbols on the mormon church in Utah and all over the world. They have hidden meaning, but just because people don`t know it, does that make them Christian? Or for example the obelisk in vatican square in front of st. peters basilica. A symbol of fertility worship, a symbol of phallic worship. You all know the history behind it (Nimrod again). But they put a cross on top. Does that make it Christian? Or is it still an abomination in the sight of God? All this stuff isn`t called MYSTERY in revelation 17 for nothing.

      However that does not mean if I burn a yule log in the fire place because I`m cold, that I am doing a pagan ritual. Obviously intention as to what purpose are you doing this is important. So, I believe that by our abiding in the grace and power of Christ, nothing worldy has power over us. No spell, no pagan practice, no food is polluted according to scriptures and so on. If you do everything to the glory of God and live holy by His word, you are His and not the world`s. But Christ said we should be separated from the world and adopting a festival on the 25th of december where all the pagans in the past worshiped all their pagan gods not just nimrod, just to appease everybody back in the day (325AD) to me this is not a separation, it was in fact the first ecumenical/interfaith move so to speak. The church got married with the world. Obviously not the remnant of true believers back then who knew this is wrong but later on people forgot and the remnant got persecuted through time till this day.

      Now it is true we live under grace of Yahshua the Messiah, but the apostles also wrote in their letters to all who believe “grow in grace.” That means study the word of God, rightly divide the word of truth so you will be able to apply it in your life. Dividing what is worldy and what is godly. What is of flesh and what is of spirit.

      If Christian want to really worship the birthday of Christ which by the way is no where ordained in the scriptures (acts 15:20,…) they should separate themselves from the world and worship like The Most High ordained, and that is His Feast of Tabernacles which falls on september/october on which apparently Yahshua was born (6 months down the line from conception of John the baptist).

      Considering st. Nicholas. If the stories about him are true that he gave away his riches to poor people, he was mearly following what Yahshua tells us in scriptures, but instead of worshiping God, people (catholics for the most part) started worshiping the saint! And that`s where it all got wrong and became a tradition. Nothing wrong with remembering a certain man and following his example of obeying Christ, but praying to him…

      That is just the way I am looking at this. By the way, in the book of Revelation in the letter to Thyatira, there is mentioned “…as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan as they speak;…” Does that mean those who still have the (pagan) tradition, but forgot it`s meaning and therefore it is ok because they have been deceived not by their fault, or those who do not practice this tradition, knowing by the scriptures it is not ordained of The Almighty?

      I think we have no excuse, because we have the scriptures freely available today for the discernment of times that we live in…

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    • Bozz said

      One thing is also interesting to me. Nimrod is all over the place. From the tower of Babel to Christmas tradition on dec. 25th… Chuck Missler named the final world leader Nimrod the 2nd…

    • Captain Eagle said

      Christie – You’re welcome. While I don’t really do the whole pretending Santa Claus is real thing, as a writer I have used the character several times and have even been writing my own version of his biography for over ten years now. This is my Lord or the Rings or Narnia work. People find it odd that I could ever put this much research and thought into Santa Claus yet don’t pretend he’s a real guy. It’s not good marketing but it’s very hard for me to lie because I do what’s in my heart’s nature first and lying has just never been in my nature. Or at least I’m not very good at it so I don’t do it.

      When I hear people do the whole “Santa/Satan” thing I immediately think of that sketch from SNL with the Church Lady doing that. That is really how uninformed these people are when they do that and rather than researching where the word Santa comes from they’d rather live in their paranoid and fearful lie. I’ve met some Christians who even say we must respect Satan as our superior because he is an angel and closer to God than we are. Such rubbish! But it’s out there.

      I know some Christians eel that if they perpetrate the Santa Claus lie then their children will rejct Christ as a myth too when they know the truth about Santa Claus. I can only speak for myself but this was never the case with me and I carried on the Santa Claus belief as long into my childhood as possible. For me this figure became just a great fictional character like Superman or Batman or the Wizard of OZ and never caused a rift in my belief of Christ. I don’t know if that is normal but that was my experience. If you’d like me to enter your debate on that other forum feel free to post the link and I’ll share my knowledge there.

      Shauna – In Charles Dicken’s Christmas Carol the 3 Ghosts of Christmas are different aspects of Christ. Christmas Past is the Krist Kindle or Baby Jesus. Christmas Present is the resurrected Christ and in fact when the illustrator John Leach colored his robes red instead of the green of everlasting life that Dickens’ described he was chastised by Dickens for this. He illustration was also altered to add the stigmata to the Ghost’s wrists. In modern times this ghost is always depicted as Father Christmas but Dickens wrote him as the resurrected Christ. Christmas Yet To Come is death or a life without Christ which is the certain future Scrooge faces at this point in his life. When the ghost of Jacob Marley visits him earlier own he reflects this fate and Marley eludes to Christ several times but he is unable to speak the name in his damned state. These are just a taste of some of the Biblical elusions in that book that excite me.

      Bozz – The Yule Log was burned on the Solstice, Dec 21 or 22. Not the 24th or 25. When you say everything has a meaning including the days you’re not even on the same days.

      When a NEW tradition is created that is NOT connected to a pagan ritual they are NOT one and the same thing. This is the same argument some Christians have over “graven images” meaning any depiction of Christ in art. That is not what that means nor are these things one and the same.

      The obelisk and other occultist symbols of the Masons and other secret societies have been in continuous use since ancient times are are not the same thing as modern inventions like the Christmas tree. I can find the unbroken chain through history of those symbols. I don’t see that with Christmas symbols. All I ask is to see the same unbroken chain of their use and I will back now. As of now, of nearly all my life studying these tings I have yet to find it. That’s all I’m saying.

      You pretty much agreed with me on intent, however, LA and others have stated we can be under attack by demons, fallen ones, and “aliens” and to are evoke the blood of Jesus whenever this happens so we can fall under spiritual attack.

      I agree that I’ve never understood why the Christian church abandoned the Jewish festivals unless they took it to mean that the fulfillment of Christ changed this, as it did with so much Jewish law and rituals that were only meant to be in place until His coming. While it’s true the Bible never commands us to celebrate His birth or death it is human nature that we do so. This is the most important event in human history and why wouldn’t we want to celebrate that as the human race?

      Yes, the stories of Saint Nicholas are true but you have to use your brain and know what ones are myth and what ones are real. Resurrecting the remains of 3 butchered ones in a barrel probably never happened (he could have rescued 3 boys from a murderous butcher though), saving 3 daughters from prostitution by providing their dowry may have happened, punching the Bishop in the nose who rejected Christ’s deity we know did happen. I’m sure Nicholas was a kind man who followed Christ’s selfless example and even shared His temper against the corruption within the church. But as with Christ, thousands of false stories were penned in middle ages by monks and preists who all wanted to pen their own gospel. The same happened with Saint Nicholas but at the core we know he was a real man who did good things in the name of Christ and that’s all that’s important.

      I’m not for Saint worship. I merely use the name Saint Nicholas because that is his title in history just like Ivan the Terrible or Genghis Kahn. The historical figure is now known by that name so it is how we properly identify him.

      Did Chuck just decide that or does he base it on something? Since Nimrod means moron in today’s society I would look for an alias if that is even true. What world leader would willingly come forth with the name “moron”?

    • IndyRose said

      Santa is Spanish for Saint and in Italian the word is Santo so you can see the word could be easily changed to Santa Claus.

      According to http://www.orlutheran.com/html/santa.html

      “Santa Claus in America

      When the Dutch established their colony of New Amsterdam in America in the seventeenth century, they brought with them the traditional “visit” from Sinter Klaas (St. Nicholas) on the eve of Dec. 5. Weiser thinks that when the English later took over the colony and renamed it New York, the English children began longing to have a kindly “Sinter Klaas” of their own that would bring them gifts. But because the English Protestants did not observe saints days, the Sinter Klaas visit was moved to Christmas Eve and observed then.”

    • Bozz said

      Chuck ment it sort of like a nickname, since this world leader will have similarities to the first Nimrod in his misbehavior towards God to put it mildly, he named him for lack of a better term “Nimrod the 2nd.” Watch his lecture on that called Antichrist – the alternative ending. I think it is in that lecture.

      Nimrod may mean moron in today`s society but in that tower of Babel society it meant a mighty hunter before the Lord (if I remember correctly) and he was clearly not a moron back then, seeing what he did with the whole tower thing (although in the eyes of God he probably was a moron). We can say the same with the christmas tree, today it represent a harmless tradition, nothing to be worried about, but back then it ment a pagan practice performed to venerate …guess who… Nimrod and other pagan idols down the historic time line.

      I did not research when they burned the yule log. I just said the meaning of the symbol is important, even if people disagree what it means because they forgot what it represents or are ignorant about it. We don`t burn yule logs anymore, but we still have decorated trees or an imitation of them, just like Jeremiah documented back then. Therefore it does not matter if the chain of this tradition got broken sometime in the past (because people a couple of centuries back clearly knew what it meant from the scriptures and even forbade it), the symbol remains and the meaning of it, the difference is, people forgot.

      Look at the Israelites in the OT. They suffered from amnesia, why would we be any different? Just a different dispensation, same problems. The only thing is we don`t venerate the tree like they did back then and that is the only thing that leans towards this thing being “harmless” today. For example if we would set up in our houses an exact replica of the cow, that the Israelites worshiped during the absence of Moses, but would not worship it, just have it there in the corner, would that be ok? Probably not.

      Anyway, the information that I researched convinced me that there is a clear connection to Jeremiah 10 and Nimrod as Tammuz reborn in an evergreen tree bringing gifts on the winter solstice. so to me this is not a new tradition but a very OLD one with new characters that represent the same old thing repackaged. To me even the fact that when you go into a catholic church (that has a phallic symbol in front of their doorsteps) and see a christmas tree where they still perform the endless sacrifice of Christ on their altars, is enough to leave that tradition behind, but that is just me. I came out of there and am not in a hurry to go back.

      By the way J.R. Tolkien was a catholic who convinced C.S. Lewis to accept a “mystical” Jesus and that`s how he became a christian. But I don`t want to go into this also. There is enough info on that on the internet.

      Sorry to have started this debate again, but to me this is just a debate nothing more. So no contention here for those who would interpret it that way.

    • Captain Eagle said

      I know what Nimrod meant in ancient times. I was just making the observation that recently it came to mean Moron so few, if any, would go out in public with that name in modern culture. I get where a modern leader can be like Nimrod.

      Your calf example makes me ask this. If I have a cow statue in my home is that the same thing? (I’m not one of them but there are people who collect representations of cows, pigs, chickens, frogs, cats, dogs, etc. as their hobby.) I would say they are not the same thing. In the case of the Golden calf it was a sculpture of an Egyptian god and in ancient tradition there was a ceremony to dedicate every idol to that god before it was worship. This is also true of the tree worship as well. Since a modern Christmas tree is not dedicated to any diety how is it the same thing?

      I would like to see proof that the Jeremiah account means a modern Christmas tree. It is easy to apply any meaning desired to a Biblical verse IF you don’t apply the correct context. Church history. You elude to how centuries ago Christmas and traditions like the Christmas tree where forbade by Christiand who “clearly knew what the scriputures meant” but you also leave out that many of these same Christians burned people at the stake for various reasons because “they clearly knew what the scriptures meant.” I very much believe that the scriptures mean what they mean but I do know that in man’s nature he often changes the meaning to suit his own will and not God’s.

      Likewise, your example of abandoning a practice just because a cathoic happens to do it is not a good example. The drive by media uses this same logic to say that all American killers are Christian if they grew up with a parent who went to church. I’m sure you will find corruption in any institution but once again it is the people within these places who are to blame, not Christianity itself (as many try to blame the religion for some of the people within it.)

      I would like to know more about this Tolkien and Lewis were wolves in sheep’s clothing. This is a new one on me. I knew Mother Theresa wasn’t what she seemed but had never heard this about Lewis to this extent.

      I don’t see this as a debate as mre a discussion and I quite enjoy discussing these things with others in a civil manner.

    • Bozz said

      I all-ready explained the calf thing with the yule log example so I don`t need to go back on this one. Of course it`s not the same thing. But what if you had the exact same replica, that represented the calf worship? Like the christmas tree according to my understanding is the same thing as described in Jeremiah 10.

      The Word of God has nothing to do with burning people at the stake. No where in the scriptures does it say you have to punish someone like that. Why would you even allude to such a thing? Every true believer knows why they burned people at the stake. Lack of the word of God, understanding and applying Christ`s teachings for one. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely and evil abounds for other. While it says in the scriptures that they cut down a tree in the old times and decorated it. And that it is the way of the heathen which we should not learn.

      When I said that people forbade it, I meant the protestant settlers which came to America from Europe. It was something that represented the catholic church, something they ran from (burning at the stake and torture and all their erroneous ways, which a heathen tradition alluding to the mass of Christ is!).

      The only difference is we live in the new covenant, a better covenant. Christ destroyed the work of the devil on the cross. Sin. It is a sin to learn the way of the heathen (christmas tree), something that irritates God, but then again, sin was destroyed. But then again Paul said something like “Should we therefore sin that grace may abound? God forbid!”

      Let me clarify one thing. I have nothing against remembering Christ`s birth on the 25th of December. We can do that any day we like, no matter what they did in the old times on certain dates. The only thing that I`m not ok with is the christmas tree. Also the name is misleading. That tree (and the festival) has nothing to do with Christ and anything with an old heathen custom. But hey it`s a tradition and people love it, so lets go against what God said.

    • Bozz said

      Correction: Also the name is misleading. That tree (and the festival) has nothing to do with Christ and everything with an old heathen custom.

    • Shauna said

      To Captain Eagle, I actually enjoy reading what you write so please don’t take this post of mine as some kind of personal attack on you, because I certainly don’t intend it that way.

      I was aware, back in my high school & college days, of the references in Christmas Carol story, but there is still no Gospel message there. I do recall how it is full of salvific examples of ‘works righteousness & good deeds’ though.
      Perhaps if I re read Christmas Carol there will be the true salvation message in it. For now I remain skeptical.

      Captain Eagle wrote: “I’m sorry if I have angered anyone but I do get irritated by the ignorance of Santa = Satan (when Santa is simply a word for Saint) that I see ongoing in Christian circles.”……..That is really how uninformed these people are when they do that and rather than researching where the word Santa comes from they’d rather live in their paranoid and fearful lie.
      Our Example
      For your consideration with the example santa=satan :
      H.P. Blavatsky, the Satanist and new age teacher writes in The Secret Doctrine:
      “many a mysterious sacred name. . . conveys to the profane ear no more than some ordinary, and often vulgar [common] word, because it is concealed anagrammatically or otherwise”.
      (H.P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine, Vol II, p. 78)
      This also reminds me of Lucis Trust (lucis, root ‘of light’, previously Lucifer Publishing…..also satanists and advocates of H.P.B.)

      * Now that’s a person – and hardly an SNL church lady – I’d actually consider living, well technically dead, in a paranoid lie.

      As for referencing Saint Nicholas, The Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology quotes “Old Nick” as a well known British name for the devil, derived from the Dutch Nikken, meaning the devil.
      The Oxford English Dictionary Vol III D-E, also references the Devil as being “Old Nick”. Nick being the slang also for ‘to rob or steal’. It now also says Santa is a term for Father Christmas. *Call no man your Father.

      Santa is also Spanish for Holy (hence Santa Biblia), conjugation also uses an ‘o’ for saint, as in santo. satan wants to be like the Most High….and however it started, today santa has co-opted many of the characteristics of The Lord as described in The Bible (from using Ho-Ho, to being in the North, being a carpenter, a giver of ‘gifts’, to what he wears, how he looks, his ‘lists’/books, his ‘all knowing’, believe on him-that child like faith, etc).
      All the ‘coincidences’ (there is no such thing as a coincidence either, there is purpose) associated with santa (and Kriss Kringle, German for Christ child….) have an intent behind them. Otherwise, why do we need a ‘santa’ (even if it also means holy and saint) in place of Christ when we are celebrating, supposedly, the birth of Christ? Perhaps that’s because unbelievers would never tolerate actually using Christ, so they came up with a tolerable r e p l a c e m e n t. Much like some religious bodies do when they try to ‘Christianize’ everything pagan. What’s that saying about slapping religious lipstick on a pagan pig? It’s still a pagan pig.

      Many parents affirm to their children that Santa is real – that is lying no matter how you slice it. If we ‘lie’ for the ‘fun’ of Santa, then we are teaching our kids that lying is OK.

      Basically for every argument a Christian can use to ‘christianize’ santa, a Christian can also use a satanic/occultic argument to show the occult side of santa. Satan is slick like that, for he even quoted scripture to Jesus Christ! Satan is great at muddying things, so as Christians we have to be very diligent to be discerning. There is no question that Santa is a replacement for Christ, whether we call santa a saint or satan. No saint is like God…….but boy does Santa sure sound close. Santa & the whole secular christmas garbage also promote blatant materialism….Jesus Christ gives us Eternal Life & Spiritual Gifts….santa gives us material baubles, right here, right now……and that resembles satan, not Christ.

      You wrote, “I don’t see this as a debate as more a discussion and I quite enjoy discussing these things with others in a civil manner.”
      I am trying to do that and I apologize if I’ve failed to adequately express it that way.

    • lamarzulli said

      Thank you Faithfulelect! I’m trying to take a few days off and relax…. L.A.

  2. Gordy said

    Trouble in Narnia
    The Occult Side of C. S. Lewis

    by Mary Ann Collins

    http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/narnia-trouble.htm

    • Kelly said

      C.S. Lewis was very creative and his work has had more of a profound impact on my life than any other writer outside of the bible and I am a deep seeker of truth. In my college years I had so many questions and his writing provided so many intelligent answers that drew me to God. I have a big book of his quotes and I refer to it often. I am glad he is my brother and I look forward to meeting him in heaven along with Mother Teresa, two of my very favorite people of all time. I think his heart loved Jesus and I forgive him if his work bordered on the mystical. I hope people can forgive all my faults. There are no perfect people and God uses us despite that. Amen.

    • Captain Eagle said

      Kelly, what is the name of the book? I’d like to add that to my wish list.

      I have met plenty of Christians who attack Lewis and Tolkien. Several have told me Tolkien was Satanic because God gave him the gift of language and he didn’t use it to translate the Bible but frittered it away on fantasy. I’ve had the same attacks threwn towarsds myself. Lewis is being erased from Oxford history in favor of the guy who wrote the athiest series The Golden Compass because Oxford has a problem with Lewis’ faith. Why should we throw away who many consider to be the greatest theologian of the 20th century because he wrote fantasy stories too?

    • Gordy said

      I’ve read many of C.S. Lewis books and appreciate many of his incites and his defense of the Christian faith. However since all men are fallen, we need discernment and God’s word to test all teaching and spiritual beliefs. Mary Ann Colins is a former nun, who is expressing her concern over Lewis blending of pagan, humanist and Christian ideas in some of his books.

    • Gordy said

      “Christian” Romanticism,
      the INKLINGS, and the
      Elevation of Mythology

      By Richard and Linda Nathan

      http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/romanticism.htm

    • Maureen said

      This was Mother Teresa’s theology:

      “There is only one God and He is God to all; therefore it is important that everyone is seen as equal before God. I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic. We believe our work should be our example to people. We have among us 475 souls – 30 families are Catholics and the rest are all Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs—all different religions. But they all come to our prayers.”

      “There are so many religions and each one has its different ways of following God.

      From:

      http://www.ewtn.com/motherteresa/words.htm

      No true Christian would say that they wanted a Hindu to become a better Hindu or a Muslim to become a better Muslim. But the WORLD loved her and still loves her.

    • Kelly said

      I do think we need to pray for discernment but I don’t think it’s our job to judge people. I think there is a difference. Mother Teresa loved people. She really really loved people. She actually pursued homeless dying stinky dirty people and she validated them. She physically rubbed their hearts until they could trust enough to look into her eyes and she LOVED them! Now if this woman is not in heaven what was God talking about when He said “if you have not love you have nothing?” I just don’t know. I’m not so sure about God in some areas like all of you seem to be. I hears about someone fairly well known who had a vision. Was it Chuck Peirce? I’ll hafta look it up. Anyway he had a vision where he was in heaven and he saw a homeless man sitting near Jesus and asked who it was and why he was so close and someone said “well that man risked his life for another homeless man by laying his body on top of that man to save his life from the cold and died.” Jesus saw his heart. What about the man on the cross who believed and Jesus said, “today you will be with me in heaven.” I mean that goes against some “baptism or no salvation” theories. I know we have to “know” Jesus and that is the only way to heaven. If we try any other way we are a “thief and a liar.” At times my heart is touched and I am moved towards the heart of Christ. My mind will tend to stay put but my heart is moved. There is something about the heart and the spirit more than the mind that God speaks to. I think we need to be careful about being “righteous snobs.” We need to humble ourselves. The more I walk with Christ the more He reveals things to me that blow me away. I see homeless people who actually carry bibles that are all marked up. Yet we somehow believe that because they made “bad” choices God somehow doesn’t speak to them or guide them in other ways. I saw the new Narnia movie last night and I wept. I saw God in it. God is bigger than this world folks. He just is. And I agree that a Hindu is not a Christian but it maybe Mother Teresa’s words were more about her heart. Maybe she was talking about loving people. Period. Praying for them. Loving them where they are at. God does the rest often. I dunno folks. God led me to this site about a year ago. And I love LA’s work. It’s amazing. It’s fascinating. It has opened my eyes but the responses seem a bit snobby at times. I can’t write anything without being half attacked. As if you all “know” and God has spoken to you but no one else. I like what LA wrote awhile back about LOVE.

    • Kelly said

      Captian Eagle, the C.S. Lewis book is called “The Quotable Lewis” by Martindale and Root-Tyndale Publishing. Great great book! You will love it.

    • Shauna said

      Kelly,
      I’m sure some responses to you can seem snobby, but perhaps they aren’t. There is a discernment we are commanded to have and we are instructed to be ‘fruit inspectors’. I don’t know M.T.’s heart – but when the fruit is inspected – as it pertains to the gospel – not plain works, then there are obviously some grave concerns. M.T., in Calcutta, had Buddha and Mary on her altar and Jesus was relegated to hanging on a cross on the back wall. She said in her own writings that she didn’t feel God and He was far from her. The problem for so many of us, is that we can see – what to man – is a ‘good person’, who does many good deeds and seems to have much love and we may think ‘well surely if anyone is saved it’s them. And that just simply is not true. If it were true, my parents would be saved right now. But it isn’t and so they aren’t. But they’re ‘good people’, right? Well, heck before I was saved by grace through faith, I thought I was a good person too – and just about everyone who knew me would have agreed. That was before I saw my sin for what it was. An abomination to a Holy and Righteous God. Gods Word tells us about the way ‘that SEEMS right to a man’…… Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death. Think of this: say a person you know gives their all, life, money, everything to help the wretched and poor that no one else even wants to look at much less touch. Do they actually love those people? Well, if they have done all that, yet NOT given the Gospel and have not been clear about Jesus Christ being the only way of salvation, then the answer is NO. That person may have been kind and loving as man sees it to the flesh of a person, but in reality they hated the soul. Unfortunately, M.T. was very clear in the ecumenism we see running rampant today. And ecumenism is but a child of satan. The ecumenical person is seen, by man, as being the ‘loving, kind, tolerant’ one. The real Christian. If we used mans definition of love and tolerance and kindness then Jesus himself would be labeled…..well, exactly today as he was when He died on the Cross for our sins. The Gospel is exclusive, the way is narrow (and as scripture says ‘few be there who find it’) and WE can do absolutely nothing to ‘earn’ or be deserving of our salvation. Satan LOVES, yes loves, to use works righteousness to confuse the masses. Heck, atheists can love people and do ‘good’ things. Those of other religions have even done many wonderful works…. but that doesn’t mean they are saved. And God does hate things. We can use Bible gateway or some other such resource to get a list of all the things the Lord does hate. Maureen and Lisa were spot on in their discernment regarding this. There is enough evidence from M.T.’s own words that she did not believe that Christ was the exclusive way to salvation – and her telling people that, no matter how much she thought she loved them, is the exact opposite of love. That happens when you look to a religious institution instead of Gods Word.

      From Vatican II, Ch.2 The Practice of Ecumenism point 10: Sacred theology and other branches of knowledge, especially of an historical nature, must be taught with due regard for the ecumenical point of view, so that they may correspond more exactly with the facts.
      *my note: so we take a preconceived idea of satan, ecumenism, and THEN we insert all other beliefs to make them fit that predetermined mold. Subterfuge.

      Another look:

      DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCHTO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS NOSTRA AETATE

      PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI ON OCTOBER 28, 1965
      3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.

      *please note: 1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
      So point 3 above is also full of subterfuge. Even with the RCC literary gyrations displayed above, Islam has nothing to do with The Father of the Bible…God.

      We must be steeped in Gods Word, not mans work…….the deception is great and it seems good.
      Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
      Anybody can be saved regardless of their ‘station in life’. Also, beware of folks like the ‘visionary’ you mentioned above – that fruit is beyond rotten, he doesn’t line up with scripture at all.
      God does not reveal things to us that aren’t already in His Word or that contradict His Word.
      Kelly, pray, stick with the Bible, compare ALL THINGS to Gods Word and Christ will bring you through.

    • Late Night Lisa said

      Gordy, those were good links.

    • LauraR said

      Mother Theresa who a Catholic nun did many great things,I was surprised to learn that she had stated about Jesus that”He is the absent one.”and “the only way we can have Jesus, is when the priest commands Him to come down off the cross.” Can you imagine?

    • Kelly said

      Well maybe it was a different time in her faith or her religous belief that M.T. said this. I’m not sure. It does sadden me because her work over the years really touched my heart. It taught me so much about tenderness as did Jean Vanier with his work with developmentally disabled. I have taken those teachings to refine my own growth over many sermons in my life. I hope she came around. I hope God met her and the light was turned on as to who Jesus is. My hope is that it happened when she was so very ill before her death. So much spiritual stuff can go on in those hours. I worked at Hospice for awhile and oh my goodness the things I heard and saw… You know the truth is we don’t know everyone who will be in heaven or who won’t be. We aren’t privy to the encounters one can have with our heavenly Father in the hidden moments. They aren’t for us to see all the time. Those are my thoughts anyway.

    • Kelly said

      Thanks for your thoughtful response Shawna. I do know this about works and how works doesn’t get us to heaven. I was raised as a Roman Catholic and made my first communion and then moved out of state and didn’t go to the Catholic church again. I argued with the nuns all the time as a very young girl. One time I drew a picture of Jesus with a flower in his hair and a big wide toothy grin and a nun told me he was a man of sorrows and never laughed. I marched out as I was telling her I was sure he laughed at times. Another time I argued about Pergatory and it being real. My gut/my heart was hearing God back then. I was all of age 6 I think. But what I did learn in those years was to be quiet and reverent not in a “religious” way as much as “I’m here. He’s here too. I better listen as He’s big.” It was more of a reverence thing I guess. Now the church I attend is so loud. I miss the quiet sometimes. Anyway I pray MT somehow met Jesus as He is prior to her death. I try to walk in His Spirit. I used to beat myself up all the time and see myself as a “sinner saved by grace” but now I see myself as “a saint who sometimes sins.” I can’t focus on my sin and how bad it is outside of confessing it and moving on because it’s false pride to marinate in my “badness” and doesn’t get me anywhere. When I focus on Him He just seems to use my compassion and I am always telling people about the hope we have in Jesus. He helps me love people. I work with drunks the mentally ill and those who are suicidal at nights and poor pregnant girls during the day. What other hope do I have to offer them? And as for scripture I will tell you that I can read a scripture one day and get one meaning and read it the next and hear something else. One meaning doesn’t rule the other out but I am impressed with two different meanings at times. It’s like it comes alive. I think we are living in times when we will see things and hear things we have never before. The spiritual and the earthly are moving closer. I don’t think God will do anything that goes against scripture. I agree with you but I also think He’s moving in new ways. For example there are so many people who write about going to visit heaven and hell. They don’t even know each other and they come back saying they saw the same things (i.e. Mary Baxter is one). And I don’t know much about Chuck Pierce but if I need discerment God will give it to me because He loves me. Until then I am not going to judge him. I will pray for him and support him as he’s my brother in Christ. I don’t have much time to do research but look up stuff when I can. Anyway God bless you. He does see me through. :)

    • Resurgam said

      Kelly,
      I truly appreciate the Lord’s gift to you… God’s gift of mercy which you share with those who have set our hearts on pilgrimage. Thank you!

    • Shauna said

      Kelly,
      You may not like this, but I can’t let it go by. Mary Baxter is known…..and she IS a false prophet. The reason so many wolves have the same story is because they run in the same pack. As you said above, let God guide you in all truth and righteousness and stop paying ANY heed to well, wherever or whatever it is you are hearing about all these false visionaries. Whoever is directing you in this way is seriously lacking in any biblical discernment. I’m curious as to what ‘new’ things it is that is being told to you that God is doing? Also, it must be backed by scripture, whatever it is, so if you or they could provide the scripture reference as well I’d really appreciate it. Thanks!

    • Kelly said

      Shauna, I realized I spelled your name wrong on one of my posts. Sorry about that. I’m not so sure Mary Baxter is a false prophet. I’ll hafta research that more. I’ll need to get some names for you of people I have read about who have had experiences where they were taken to heaven and hell and I read the same accounts of things that happen to all of them. I’m fairly intuitive and don’t believe everything but I do ponder when I hear a theme over and over. God usually speaks to me like that. When I hear something three or four times I usually take heed. I’m not crazy and God is pretty good at reeling me in if I go too far out. Most people in my church think I’m a bit odd recently as I’ve begun to speak about the UFO phenomena more. Also because it’s a pretty cosmetic church I go to and they aren’t all that interested in drunks and poor people with frostbitten toes but sometimes they come through. I always love that! I don’t spend hours in books or scripture. I do try and fast for 3 days once a month and pray. I mostly work. I work about 60 hours a week, raise a great 14 year old by myself and am happy to get excercise in when I can. I have MS and tire so easily. I do pray with my clients and I see God moving in mighty ways. I’m sorry you’re just more cognitive than I am. I’m more about the heart of God and being in tune with that. If you want to see me as some kind of heretic so be it. I can’t control that and I will bless you and love you anyway. :) The people I really fellowship with are in a smaller group. They are great bible inspired folks who have a heart for God. I mainly go to my big church because my son leads in worship and loves his youth group. The group I fellowship with is called Steppin In Foundation and they offer conferences every year. I would love it if LA could come and do a conference here in Billings and have talked to them about it. They are considering it. It’s a great group. Many are already on to the UFO phenomena. Anyway that’s all I have for you sister.

    • Shauna said

      Kelly,
      Hmmmm……..I haven’t called you or implied you’re a heretic – perhaps you are reading too much in to what I wrote. I did call Baxter & Chuck wolves because scripture bears that out. We have the Word of God and for a Christian that is all we need for our discernment, which is my point. I’ll await your info ;-)

    • Kelly said

      Shauna,

      My question to you is how can you say there is only one human interpretation of scripture that is right? Look at all the different bibles out there and how many people interpret things so different. Do you really want to know what I’ve read or are you just out to prove something to be wrong? Who said anybody is in the “know”? I mean don’t we all just trust God that He is opening our eyes? I went online and looked up “false prophets” and couldn’t believe how many well known christians are listed. Maybe they are wolves. Maybe they aren’t. Only God knows that. So much of religion is based on control and somehow arriving at a place that is so much more “right” and “correct” than others. I’m not about religion. I’m about Jesus and my relationship with Him. So you read the bible and you interpret how you think God is leading you to interpret it. I read it and do the same thing and just maybe we arrive at different conclusions? Who is right? Does that make one of us a wolf and one of us God’s child? And by the way things happen to people that aren’t in the scriptures and they are just as valid. People have experiences. They are valid. I’m not going to tell them their experiences are not valid.

    • Shauna said

      Believe it or not Kelly, I am not trying to “be right” – I am trying to point you to scripture. Where did I say there is one human interpretation? That would be awfully ‘pop-ish’, which I’m not. I understand and even affirm that a verse, for instance, can have various meanings of application – but it will never contradict. God gave us His Word for a reason. An experience – or an angel of light – cannot trump Gods Revealed Word. That is not my personal opinion – it is in Gods Word.

      How would I know what you’ve read when you haven’t even told me – other than that you don’t really read scripture? Experiences that contradict scripture are NEVER valid. People who add to Revelation, like Baxter, are in direct contradiction to scripture, which forbids it…..forbids it. There is no equivocation there. The internet can be good for searches and research….but we are to judge ALL things by scripture as we are commanded. This is not my opinion Kelly, again it is in Gods Word. These are tons of verses about how strongly we are to take scripture. I couldn’t find a single verse about relying on our experiences/feelings for truth. Not one.

      You also misunderstand me….if I didn’t care about your soul I wouldn’t say anything. I care enough about you to point out what Gods Word has to say even if it means you believe I am attacking you, which is not the case – I am trying to direct you to Gods Word only. Please consider strongly just how important scripture is in this sampling:

      Matthew 26:56a But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.

      Mark 12:10a And have ye not read this scripture

      Mark 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

      Mark 14:49b but the scriptures must be fulfilled.

      Mark 15:28a And the scripture was fulfilled

      Luke 4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

      Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

      Luke 24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

      Luke 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures

      John 2:22b and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

      John 5:39a Search the scriptures;

      John 7:38a He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said

      John 7:42a Hath not the scripture said

      John 10:35b and the scripture cannot be broken

      John 13:18b but that the scripture may be fulfilled

      John 17:12b that the scripture might be fulfilled.

      John 19:24b that the scripture might be fulfilled

      John 19:28b that the scripture might be fulfilled

      John 19:36a For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled

      John 19:37a And again another scripture saith

      John 20:9a For as yet they knew not the scripture

      Acts 1:16a Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled

      Acts 8:32a The place of the scripture which he read was this

      Acts 8:35a Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture

      Acts 17:2b and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures

      Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

      Acts 18:28b shewing by the scriptures

      Romans 1:2 Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures

      Kelly, I do not want you led astray….even a bit, which is why I encourage you so strongly to search the scriptures and to verify ALL things by Gods revealed Word.
      That’s all…..I won’t bother you further with the matter.

    • Kelly said

      Shauna,

      I didn’t say I don’t read scripture. I have my bible by my bed and lately have been reading Revelation. I said I don’t read it a lot. Not at this time in my life but I have had other times when I do and yes I would love to be able to read more. You or anyone else cannot lead me astray because God is bigger than that and loves me too much. And yes experience of God is very valid. Take the woman who was bleeding nontstop and just touched Jesus. It was after that He told her to go and sin no more. And I do think we have experiences of God that aren’t necessarily in contradiction of scripture but there may not be scripture to back it. Not everything is in scripture. I think we should be very careful about judging others too. We don’t know their hearts. We can decide if their theology is not scriptural but who are we to say if they have hearts that are God’s or not? I’m not going to say anymore either. I appreciate your study of scripture. I imagine you don’t work 60 hours a week. :) I can’t believe there is such fracture in the body and pointing of fingers however. My soul belongs to God so you don’t need to worry about it. Also human interpretation of scripture is any time one decides if something fits or is supported with their understanding of scripture. I find the whole thing at times very arrogant and I will ask God to deal with my heart on that.

  3. Gordy said

  4. Gordy said

    UFOs Buzz New Zealand After X-Files Release
    Dec 29, 2010 – 9:14 AM

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/29/ufos-buzz-new-zealand-after-x-files-release/

  5. Late Night Lisa said

    Faith And Miracles Part IV: The Fiery Furnace
    from the December 28, 2010 eNews issue

    http://www.khouse.org

    The story of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego is one of the most fun miracles in the Old Testament. These three Hebrews stood up to King Nebuchadnezzar and were thrown into the furnace for it. They obeyed God and remained faithful to Him, trusting that God could marvelously, miraculously save them.

    They didn’t know exactly what was going to happen, though. They knew that God could save them. They didn’t know if He would.

    “Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter. If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.” -Daniel 3:16-18

    “But if not.” We are usually in that same boat. We believe that God can do anything. He can split the ocean and let escaping slaves walk through on dry land. He can provide money or food at the last moment to feed orphans. He can heal people from cancer and Alzheimer’s and drug addiction. We know He can. We just don’t know in our situation if He will. So, the question we asked at the beginning of this series remains… in what, exactly, are we supposed to have faith? That God will do something? We don’t know that. Then what?

    Mistake #4: Not Depending On God’s Love:
    One of the biggest errors we make when we pray is that we really don’t think that God WANTS to do what we ask. We have the idea that God wants us to go through this suffering for a reason. And perhaps He does. Maybe He’s refining us through fire (1 Peter 1:6-7). Maybe He is teaching us to depend on Him and not our own strength. Then again, maybe He is perfectly willing to do what we ask. The bottom line of our fear is that we do not really believe God loves us.

    And yet, believing in HIS LOVE may be the very key to our faith. We believe God exists. We believe He is powerful. Do we truly believe He loves us? If yes, then we can believe that His will is excellent. Then we can believe He wants to do the most excellent things in our lives, no matter what those things are.

    Guess what!! God didn’t let those young men perish! He protected them in the middle of the fire and they walked out unharmed and not even smelling of smoke!

    Maybe… maybe God wants to do wonderful healing, protective things in our lives, but He’s waiting until our understanding is correct. God our Father loves us so deeply and selflessly that He gave His precious Son for us. He would never pay that price for us and then drop us. When we pray, we need to pray with confidence in that love.

    Example – Amy Joy:
    On November 27, 2010, Amy Joy Hess (one of our writers) piled wood and paper on the burn pile behind her house on her 4.5 acres. She had been renovating her house, and she piled scraps of lumber along with bags of papers she wanted to get rid of. She set the pile on fire, and as the flames rose, she realized she had forgotten to pay attention to the wind. The cold November wind whisked up ashy, burning papers and blew them into the woods near the burn pile. “I am such an idiot,” Amy Joy told herself. She knew better than to light a fire when the wind was blowing.

    “Dear Lord,” Amy Joy prayed fearfully, “Please don’t let the woods catch on fire. Please don’t let the woods catch on fire.” She begged God, “Please calm down the wind. Please calm it down.” Nothing changed. The wind continued to blow orange flames toward the trees. Dry leaves at the base of the fire ignited, reminding Amy Joy of the thousands of dry oak leaves in the woods.

    “Wait,” Amy Joy said to herself, “I’m not praying right.” Then she began to remind herself of the truth. “Jesus loves me. Jesus loves me. Jesus loves me,” she told herself. “Jesus loves me.” She felt her confidence in the love of God for her grow. The fear left. “Jesus cared about me,” Amy Joy told us. “He didn’t want my woods to burn down. I knew He would keep me safe.”

    Then, full of confidence in God’s love, Amy Joy spoke to the fire and wind, and she said, “In the name of Jesus Christ, calm down.”

    The change was immediate. “Instantly, the fire just ‘whoosh!’ went from lion-mode to kitten mode,” Amy Joy said. “It didn’t simply calm. It was like a giant hand pressed down, and it actually puffed out the sides. The flames relaxed, and there was no wind, and the fire became as docile as you could want. There was a soft blue flame in the middle of glowing red. I was like, ‘WOW! Let’s try that again!'”

    Later on, when a few gusts of wind came through, Amy Joy grew worried again. “But, then I remembered that God was taking care of things, and I knew I was safe.” The fire eventually burned out, and Amy Joy swears she will check for wind before lighting fires in the future.

    When we pray, we need to rest in the belief that God desires to do wonderful things in our lives, and we need to trust in the work He is doing in us. Everyday need to we say, “Lord, we are Yours. Thank you so much for loving us. Please keep us in the cross hairs of Your will today, because we know Your will is good.”

    That’s praying in Faith.

    “But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.” -Ephesians 2:4-7

    • Bozz said

      What you wrote reminds me of a site I read not a long while ago about the tests in our lives and the sovereignty of God: http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/gt/gt_13

      Wow, that is a very powerful story about Amy Joy and her fire extinguishing expertise ;) It reminds me of what Yahshua said to the apostles “o ye of little faith” and Amy was able to show her strong faith in that particular situation.

  6. Matt said

    ‘Solar max’ eyed as the Sun heads into a turbulent period
    Forecasters keep eye on looming ‘Solar Max’

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101229/sc_afp/sciencespacesuntelecoms

    Strange that Sun and crop circles that appeared this summer in England show an angry Sun.

  7. randyman said

    we are spending way too much time on dots and tidles when we should be concentrating on gathering the flock for the time is here!!The days truly do seem to be growing short indeed and we as christians need to be gathering in all the souls that we can under the protection of the Shepard,they only need be willing. If they are flawed and broken, lacking in proper doctrine, or still shedding off their sinful ways, it matters not. Once they are under God’s protection they will be healed in due time but we must gather the sheep now people for the storm is coming SOON and there will be no more time. Just a few thoughts from a sinner striving to not be. God bless

  8. Matt said

    A new movie coming out called The Rite….Inspired by true events…

    The Plot: A thriller centered on a disillusioned American seminary student who attends exorcism school at the Vatican, and his encounter with demonic forces

    The “”true story” in the film is about the Vatican creating an exorcism school because they decided they needed an exorcist in every diocese.

    Taglines: You can only defeat it when you believe

    http://whatdoyoubelieve.warnerbros.com/

    I have to say the trailer looks pretty good…

    • Jeff D said

      Matt, I found it very interesting how the young priest looks as though he was cast to be the son of Jason Miller’s Father Karras in, “The Exorcist”.

      Jeff D

    • Matt said

      Whether you believe in demons or not is entirely your own belief and I Im not going to try and change anyone’s beliefs, but the fact of exorcisms is they DO exist and they put the subject in a ridiculous amount of danger.
      Exorcisms are not as common as simple deliverances, and they require a great amount of time, care, and prayer.
      Of the hundreds of cases that I know of I can think of only one or two instances where the subject died (one involving the former Pope praying for a young woman). The circumstances were not ideal, and the poor people who suffered couldn’t get the proper help in time.

      The reason that exorcisms are not sanctified as much anymore has nothing to do with the level of danger that an exorcism puts anyone in, real or perceived, which isn’t much anyway if it’s being performed by experienced and pure people. Rather, it has everything to do with the Church losing track of the more supernatural dimensions of its birthright. I have met a few people who still do this rare and valuable work, and not one of them have had an experience where someone died as the result of an exorcism.

      This is an already sensationalized subject that Hollywood started to toy with years ago in ‘the Exorcist’ (which, by the way, was based on a true story of a young boy, not a young girl. He was freed after an intense exorcism, and no one, including the priests, died.)

    • Matt said

      Jeff D, I noticed that as well about the film.

  9. For more information on ritual abuse, go to ritualabuse(dot)us

  10. Great show. The phone call was a bit long, but hopefully he will be able to use the counsel Dr. Bailey gave in overcoming the darkness. He’ll probably need some private counseling though because it’s just hard to connect over the phone and private information can’t be said over the air-waves.
    I think everyone on this blog needs to take some time and pray for him… David, I think his name was.
    The Word is our Sword, but Prayer is our heavy artillery. As believers, we can all fire on the forces of darkness that have been encircling him through prayer.

    • Carol H. said

      Yes Michael, pray, pray, pray. These are dark days for so many. After I looked at the “Ritual Abuse Website”, (post above yours) and read the newsletter, well, it is overwhelming to say the least. I thank God for people like L. A. Marzulli, Preston Bailey, Doug Riggs, Russ Dizdar, and many more. These ministries are not for the faint of heart or those tied to a specific religious dogma and feel safer keeping God in the “Christianese Box”. Thank God there is One who can set these tormented souls and spirits free. Thank God. Thank you Jesus!

    • Shauna said

      M.W.Kelley: “The Word is our Sword, but Prayer is our heavy artillery. As believers, we can all fire on the forces of darkness that have been encircling him through prayer.”

      AMEN!

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