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The Shroud of Turin: Reposted

Posted by lamarzulli on April 8, 2009

This is an older post, but I thought that with the History Channel and other news outlets, including the Vatican’s admission that the Shroud was revered by the Knights Templar, it would be expedient to bring this post back for your perusal. On the Bill O’Reilly show tonight there is going to be a segment on the Shroud. I am a believer that the Shroud of Turin is the ‘calling card of God!” Enjoy the post and we’ll talk about Jim Tetlow’s appearance on the Thursday’s edition of Acceleration Radio!

shroud-of-turinThe Shroud of Turin is probably the most enigmatic artifact that we have on the planet today. It is a piece of cloth that bears the image of a crucified man. Through the centuries it was an artifact that was revered, but little was known about it. When Secondo Pia photographed it in 1898, he discovered , to his astonishment, that the image on the cloth was in fact, a negative image. In other words the developing process that was used in photography in those days, first created a negative image, from which the photographer continuing with the developing process would then create a positive image from. What amazed Pia and others who study the Shroud is that this process was unknown until modern times. The reason I bring this up is this. How would a medieval forger know about the process of photography centuries before it was invented? That idea is just simply preposterous!  But I’m getting ahead of myself….

Let’s strip it down and expose what  makes this artifact so unique. 

1. The blood stains on the Shroud indicate that it is type AB, so it is has been established that the blood stains are real and not PAINT!

2. The image on the Shroud is so faint that it is impossible to differentiate between some anatomical features, from less than several feet.

3. The image is anatomically perfect. There is no existing work of art – product of human eye-hand coordination – that is  anatomically perfect!

4. Marks of a severe scourging are on the Shroud. These marks match the Roman flagrum, which was used during the  first century.

5.  The scourging was savage because there are at least 120 marks on the body, both frontal and dorsal from the neck to the ankels.

6. The blood on the Shroud was deposited on the Shroud before the image was formed.

7. Recent findings on the Shroud reveal that there are tow small coins covering the eyes. These coins were struck in Israel between 29 & 33 AD. How would a forger acquire these? 

8. Pollen grains on the Shroud are consistent with what is believed to be the historical route of the Shroud, beginning at Jerusalem, going to Edessa and then eventually to Turin Italy.

9. There are around 30 images of flowers seen in the Shroud. The presence of these plants have been substantiated by the findings of matching pollen.

10. Some of these flowers are only found in and around Jerusalem. How could a forger get these flowers and use them as part of a hoax. Moreover, these flowers were only discovered in the later part of the 20 century.

I believe the Shroud is, what I have come to call it, “The Calling Card of God.” 

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18 Responses to “The Shroud of Turin: Reposted”

  1. Christine said

    I personally think the shroud is very exciting! It could very well be the one that wrapped Y’shua/Jesus. I believe the imprint was made at the moment of his resurrection. If it does turn out that it isn’t, it still won’t make we waver in my belief in Him. I do know that,even if people have evidence right in front of them, there are those who will deny it and still won’t believe!

  2. Hector27 said

    Lynn,

    im sorry but when it comes to the shroud, i kinda dont “get” it…
    and i dont understand what all the fuss is about…
    so, yeah, ummmmm…
    im not trying to be mean, but…
    isnt this on the same level as other “Christian” artifacts?
    like the “mothers milk” of mary?
    or the “holy grail”?
    or the “spear of destiny”?

    ya see, that is what i dont get…
    any physical object that is purported to be a “calling card” of God…
    is potentially an occultic point of contact-
    this is the reason God hid the bones of moses-
    because he understands human nature is to deify and worship objects…

    whether or not it would be the actual burial garment just strikes me as morbid-
    in relation to our Faith in Christ, it is quite inconsequential…
    this is why there are no genuine relics related to the resurrection of Jesus…
    because ours is a religion of FAITH and RELATIONSHIP- not relics, like the catholics…
    i mean, nowhere in the Word of God do you see Paul touring around with the shroud and claiming it to be an “aid to faith”…

    Paul didnt need the shroud! he had the Holy Spirit and POWER!

    im not trying to be a wet blanket, so if anyone can enlighten me, pleeeeeze do…

    yeah and dont get me started on the knights templars…whew!
    thats another blog entry in and of itself!

    i mean i love this blog, thanks Lynn, its just that i dont understand…

  3. RUBY said

    According to the Berean Call article “Is The Shroud of Turin Real?” Shroud of Turin: Is it Authentic?[Excerpts}
    An amazing cloth shroud..The cloth has a realistic imprint that
    looks like a man’s face. According to tradition,the shroud was
    miraculously formed when it covered Jesus’s body in the tomb.
    Some people quote Matthew 27:59,Mark 15:46 , and Luke 23:53 to justify the possibility of this miracle.

    These verses seem to indicate that a single cloth was used to wrap Jesus’s body when He was taken off the cross. But was this same cloth wrapped around Jesus’s body when it was placed in the tomb?

    After the crucifixion, Jesus’s body would have been bloody from Pilate’s whipping,the crown of thorns,and the nails driven into His hands and feet. More blood flowed from the wpear would in His side.So this cloth would have absorbed alot of blood.

    Now did this cloth remain on Jesus’s body as it was carried to the grave? From a cursory glance at the accounts in Matthew,Mark, and Luke,you might think so. However,John reveals more details(John 19:38-40). Joseph of arimathea took the body prior to its placement in the grave.Later Nicodemus joined him, applying about 75 pounds of spices and wrapping the body in several strips of linen.

    To apply the spices,the caretakers mus have removed the bloody linen covering Christ at the cross. We have no reason to assume that they reused this single cloth.Instead,we would expect them to follow Jewish customs of cleanliness.

    Also, no Gospel author mentions a second single-cloth linen around Jesus’s body-only a small cloth wrapped around Jesus’s face and several other linen strips around the rest of His body (john 20:7)

    At Jesus’ resurrection, both John and Luke mention the strips of linen and the cloth on His face. Luke 24:12 & John 20:3-7). They mention nothing else. We have no reason to assume any other cloths were present in the tomb. To do so requires us to impose our ideas on the Bible, contrary to reasonsable inference,which is not the way to “rightly divide the word of Truth” 2 Timothy 2:15

    The Bible,read carefully in context,rules out the Shroud of Turin as Jesus’s burial cloth.

    End of the article.

    I beleive fulfilled prophecy is what increases our faith.

    Love in Christ,
    Ruby

  4. Hi Lynn & all,

    I saw a little bit of a Discovery Channel program the other night that postulated that the Shroud of Turin was a hoax propagated by Leonardo DaVinnci. It was REALLY a stretch, so I ended up turning it. It was so ridiculous that it seemed almost satirical.

    I agree with you Lynn. Not only do I view the Shroud as authentic, but I see it as the “calling card” of God as well. It is not that we as Christians need objects to authenticate or strengthen our faith, but to the World who are only moved by those things that register on the physical senses; the Shroud can be a great tool to demonstrate the power of God.

    I personally take God at His Word, without any signs. However even for us, this can serve as an encouragement to our faith. I find it interesting that folks on this blog are quick to accept an evil connection in things like abductions, cattle mutilations, indigo children, and a “black awakening”; and yet don’t get it when Lynn suggests something that could have a supernatural connection with the power of God, that just maybe this could be the burial cloth of Christ.

    Do we have more faith in the devil and the power of evil than we do in God? Just a few thoughts.

    Kevin J.

  5. Christine said

    I have never seen it, nor am I a scientist, so for me to say without a doubt it is what it is claimed to be would be quite foolish. I do believe in the possibility. It would seem reasonable that, if the women at the tomb, and then later the disciples found the tomb empty, they may have kept the grave clothes. As for the knight templar and the catholic church, I don’t want to set myself against anyone, but I do have a problem with bowing down before a statue or a “holy relic.” Even if the statue is suppose to appear as Y’shua/Jesus or if the relic is proven to be real, the Word is clear about not bowing down to idols of stone or wood. It is like what was said earlier. We live by faith. By faith we See G-d and Y’shua. My faith is not wavered if this shroud turns out to not be true, but it is pretty neat to think that the power of G-d to resurrect His own Son was so great that it burned the image into the cloth! It is also pretty awe inspiring to think that there may be real evidence of the resurrection! It should never be the cornerstone of our faith. Even if it is real, many people will discount it and not believe. Believing in G-d and Y’shua/Jesus requires one to make a life change. If you truly believe, then you will love Him and keep His commandments. People today want to live their life the way they want to, doing whatever they want to do. They don’t understand the peace, love and freedom there is in giving your life to G-d!

  6. John B said

    I have said this before and I say it again; The angels present that morning at the tomb unwrapped the linen strips off Jesus after He had came back to life. There was no shroud, only linen strips which bound the body which was found by Peter &John upon entering the Tomb,like unto Lazarus who was buried in the same manner.

    Furthermore; The Face-cloth associated with the Shroud has become an object of worship in many many homes along with other Images & statues. Almighty God would never give a calling-card which invokes Idolatry.

    The Falling away from the Faith; The Great Apostasy of the End-Time according to Apostle Paul, will be permeated with Lying Signs & wonders.
    I am of the persuasion that this shroud belongs into that realm where the senses(perception) of vision & hearing will be detrimental in leading many away From The “purity” of the true Faith in the Risen Lord. John B

  7. Hector27 said

    ok, thank you for all the points that people have made about the shroud…

    the one problem with the shroud being the “calling card” of God—

    WE are the calling card of God! WE are the walking miracles of FAITH!
    WE are the ones who hold his promise and presence in earthen vessels!
    THAT is the MIRACLE!

    What caused the “world to turn upside down” in the first century?

    an old dusty piece of cloth?

    wasnt it the WALKING MIRACLES of changed lives that the non-believers saw?
    YES its true- the ONLY TRUE MIRACLE is a changed life…
    Jesus knew this- he knew that people would forget about even physical healings, people would forget about relics, but only the POWER of GOD could change a persons LIFE!
    I mean non-believers saw a guy who had denied Christ and cowered in the shadows suddenly turn around and begin to preach boldly and thousands of souls were added to the kingdom!
    peter did not wave a piece of cloth around and then ask if anyone wanted to be baptized…
    HIS LIFE HAD BEEN MIRACULOUSLY CHANGED, thats what people saw, and they wanted the same thing for their own lives!

    im not trying to be hurtful, ya know but the thing is that to a catholic, a statue that “weeps blood” is a miracle…the catholic mentality is more towards a physical relic than towards a changed life…

    the evidence of the resurrection is when someone can stop putting a needle in their arm every day…
    the evidence of the resurrection is when gang members lives can be changed…
    the evidence of the resurrection is when someone can stop drinking their lives away-
    the evidence of the resurrection is when someone can put away their tarot cards…
    the evidence of the resurrection is when marriages can be restored…
    the evidence of the resurrection is when someone can be healed from suicidal depression…

    its NOT in a piece of cloth….

  8. cottonwoodcreekfarm said

    I don’t believe Yeshua would leave one drop of His precious blood on this sinful planet. That’s just my opinion.Everyone has excellent points…what a great bunch of spirit-filled Christians I have found on this blogsite. Bless you all in the name of Yeshua….Shalom..May your Pesach be a blessed one! What a great and loving Saviour we have, Amen!!!!!

  9. joe said

    Whether it’s a “calling card” or not it’s something that followers of Jesus and non-Christians can mutually talk about as evidence by so many varied comments here. It is a very interesting item with many facets regarding discussion topics i.e. the scientific, the imagery, the morning in the tomb, the flowers/seeds, the fibers, the DNA of the blood etc, etc. This is one of those topics that help us Christians point others toward Christ.

  10. Late Night Lisa said

    Oh Hector, you just made me laugh my head off with “an old dusty piece of cloth?”

    Yes my friend-I see the point. It’s how I feel about relics and so many things people revere instead of revering what we are suppose to. Which is to be in tune with the Spirit of God. He is the only thing which will keep us from ourselves no doubt & other spiritual forces trying to lead us astray.

    However – I have to admit the mysterious “Shroud of Turin” is intriguing to say the least. If it’s true that the “Knights of Templar” is associated w/it (spirit behind the Illuminati)then I’m instantly suspicious of it’s origin.

    (You know if the Vatican ever got a hold of it there would be Catholics flocking to venerate & kiss the thing.)

    Chuck Missler seems to be pretty interested in it as well. Here is an article on the Koinonia House:
    http://www.khouse.org/articles/2008/847

    There is a DVD (have not seen it) called the “Fabric of Time” which Missler is promoting.

    I guess I have to ask myself if we found that it’s authentic & Christ’s burial cloth-so what? It would certainly provide another thing idolaters can venerate but would it also persuade the unbelievers to believe & follow the God of the Bible?

    I keep thinking of this passage in Luke 16:31 “But he said to him, ‘ If they do not hear Moses & the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead..”

    Certainly some people believed when Christ performed miracles but others only went to Him for the miracles with no intention of ever following His ways.

    I suppose it would be similar w/the Shroud of Turin. Some may be persuaded to seek God in truth & others would follow after the Shroud.

  11. Christine said

    There will be those who stand in the presense of Y’shua/Jesus and will fall to their knees in disbelief at Who is standing in front of them! Instead of saying “yes I believe.” They will say, “I can’t believe this is happening!” It doesn’t matter what evidence they find, true or not, the general response will be one of unbelief. Then you will have those that worship it. Then you will have those like us who will just quietly smile and say “I know.” It is the nature of man.
    The priest that came on just verified that they had been able to confirm the timeline that the knights of templar had it during the missing 150 years. I am like Late Night Lisa. The nights templar make me shudder! They found an old document that had been poorly recorded that supposedly verified the whole thing. Anyway, it still doesn’t verify the shroud is that of Y’shua/Jesus, only that the knights of templar had it and cared for it all those years. I have to admit I like what the priest said at the end. He said he believed it was real, but it wasn’t what mattered to his faith.
    I have been hearing all over the internet today that today is a rare day in the Jewish calendar. This is the one day every 28 years where they thank G-d for the blessing of the sun. It is said it is the one time the sun is in the position it was at the moment of creation. They also said it is rare that the Christian Ressurection Day(Easter) holiday are exactly in line with the Hebraic. We know that Israel is G-d’s timepiece. We may be seeing some very exciting/scary things this year!
    I had read in an earlier posting about Moses bones being buried. There is some discussion about that. It says in Jude that “Michael one of the ruling angels took issue with the Adversary(satan) arguing over the body of Moses.” Now why would satan want the body of Moses? Why would G-d? It was just a body subject to lay and wither away as everybody elses has. There is just the slight possibility that G-d did something special with Moses. Maybe he allowed Moses to see death, only to bring him back to life? The reason I am suggesting that is because Moses is seen on the Mount of Transfiguration with Y’shua/Jesus and Elijah. He most likely will be one of the two witnesses in Revelation. He apparently has not waited for the resurrection the rest of us wait for. Satan probably laughed with joy at the death of G-d’s servant, knowing he could destroy his body, but G-d rebuked him. Hmmm. Maybe. Just something to think about.

  12. Christine said

    There will be those who stand in the presense of Y’shua/Jesus and will fall to their knees in disbelief at Who is standing in front of them! Instead of saying “yes I believe.” They will say, “I can’t believe this is happening!” It doesn’t matter what evidence they find, true or not, the general response will be one of unbelief. Then you will have those that worship it. Then you will have those like us who will just quietly smile and say “I know.” It is the nature of man.
    The priest that came on just verified that they had been able to confirm the timeline that the knights of templar had it during the missing 150 years. I am like Late Night Lisa. The nights templar make me shudder! They found an old document that had been poorly recorded that supposedly verified the whole thing. Anyway, it still doesn’t verify the shroud is that of Y’shua/Jesus, only that the knights of templar had it and cared for it all those years. I have to admit I like what the priest said at the end. He said he believed it was real, but it wasn’t what mattered to his faith.
    I have been hearing all over the internet today that today is a rare day in the Jewish calendar. This is the one day every 28 years where they thank G-d for the blessing of the sun. It is said it is the one time the sun is in the position it was at the moment of creation. They also said it is rare that the Christian Ressurection Day(Easter) holiday are exactly in line with the Hebraic. We know that Israel is G-d’s timepiece. We may be seeing some very exciting/scary things this year!
    I had read in an earlier posting about Moses bones being buried. There is some discussion about that. It says in Jude that “Michael one of the ruling angels took issue with the Adversary(satan) arguing over the body of Moses.” Now why would satan want the body of Moses? Why would G-d? It was just a body subject to lay and wither away as everybody elses has. There is just the slight possibility that G-d did something special with Moses. Maybe he allowed Moses to see death, only to bring him back to life? The reason I am suggesting that is because Moses is seen on the Mount of Transfiguration with Y’shua/Jesus and Elijah. He most likely will be one of the two witnesses in Revelation. He apparently has not waited for the resurrection the rest of us wait for. Satan probably laughed with joy at the death of G-d’s servant, knowing he could destroy his body, but G-d rebuked him. Hmmm. Maybe. Just something to think about.
    PS: Wanted to say great post!

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  14. Thomas said

    Some years ago I read a book entitled (if I remember correctly) “A Skeleton in God’s Closet.” It was about an archaeologist in the Middle East who discovers a first century tomb. Due to some artifacts found there, he at first thinks that it is the tomb of Nicodemus, but the skeleton it contains is that of a man in his middle thirties, which bears the marks of crucificion. Naturally, mayhem ensues when the word gets out. The book was fiction, but one I think that every christian should read.
    I bring this up to point out the dangers in placing our faith in so called “relics”. I know that you don’t Lynn, but there are others who may, and should be warned against doing so, regardless of how authentic the relics may appear to be. We walk by faith, not by sight.
    Christine, I think the reason God buried Moses secretly was to keep his tomb from becoming a shrine.

  15. Hector27 said

    late nite lisa,

    Oh lisa i assure u i wasnt intending to be funny…merely trying to communicate…

    however you make some very valid arguments…
    humanities’ fallen nature is towards idolatry…
    i mean, its MUCH easier to worship and become enthralled by a graven image or relic,
    rather than Worship God in Spirit and in TRUTH!

    When Jesus walked the face of this planet, he roundly rebuked the religious, and restored the broken-

    Whether the shroud is real or not, is not even the issue!
    CAN the shroud regenerate a human life?
    CAN the shroud save a persons soul from hell?
    the answer is no no no…

    Neither can any other graven image, or statue…

    Again, the easiest route for our fallen natures is DEAD religion…
    the HARDEST thing is to worship God from a pure heart, undefiled…

    in SPIRIT and in TRUTH…

  16. Hector27 said

    oh and ummm one more thing…

    the word of God says that Jesus was beaten so badly as to be virtually unrecognizable as a man-

    so, if that is the case, how is it that there is a recognizable image on the shroud?

  17. Christine said

    I think we can all agree that, for ourselves, whether the shroud is real or not will have no effect on our faith. That is a good thing! At least we can all stand on that! I just believe that, with evil promised a reign of 7 years, there is no telling what we will see and hear in the coming years. We just need to stay anchored in the Lord, and keep looking up!

  18. Late Night Lisa said

    Hector,

    I know you weren’t attempting to be funny in your statement. It was humerous to me because I could completely relate w/the words you
    used to express frustration.

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