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UFOs: More swamp gas and weather balloons!

Posted by lamarzulli on March 25, 2009

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Well, here are two reports about UFOs. They’re obviously just swamp gas or perhaps weather balloons that these hapless idiots are reporting… Really? What I believe we are seeing is more of an open-minded position regarding the phenomena. At least it is being reported, and as you read these stories you will see that there’s not the usual tongue in cheek reportage that has been the hallmark of articles on UFOs in the past. I think we have entered a new phase of UFO research.

I also think that the movies, Knowing & Race to witch Mountain as well as Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls, are all very deliberate, in that they are indoctrinating viewers into the Alien Gospel. For those of you who have never read this BLOG before, and we get new viewers every day, I’ll state this again. The Alien Gospel is this in a nutshell. That the Aliens created all life on this planet. That they were worshipped as gods and now, at this critical juncture in our evolution, they have returned to help us!  As I BLOGGED about Monday, Knowing is more than just a movie. It is indoctrination of the Alien Gospel. It is a blatant assault on Christianity, in that it usurps the God of the bible with a super intelligent and technologically advanced Alien race. Of course this begs the question, where did these Aliens come from? Who made them? Were they created or did they evolve? If they evolved then we’re back to the concept that the universe is just a random sequence of events that have no meaning! If, on the other hand there is a divine being, a God who created all life – as the ancient texts tell us – then life has a purpose and meaning.

         In Ben Steins movie Expelled, he sits down with the premier evolutionist/atheist on the planet, Richard Dawkins and asks him point blank, “how did life in the universe begin?” Dawkins provides us with this, “Millions of years ago in a far off galaxy life began to evolve…”  Stein raises his eyebrows and rightfully so as Dawkins has no idea how life began, other than to sate that a divine being had nothing to do with it. His statement is intellectually bankrupt! For Dawkins to forbid the idea of a divine being as the source of creation is the height of arrogance on his part. Why should we believe him?

          All this to say that I believe that the fingerprints of this divine being, God, Yashua, are everywhere. We have the prophetic texts of the Bible that were created thousands of years ago and yet we see that many of them have come to fulfillment in our lifetime. The prophecy stating that Jerusalem would be trampled over until the times of the gentiles was fulfilled with the culmination of the 67 war in Israel, and that is just one prophecy. For the first time in almost 2000 years, the Jews once again had control of the old city. But I digress! Enjoy the two articles below and remember, articles like these are turning up almost daily…

Don’t forget Tomorrow’s Acceleration Radio @ 5:00! We’ll be interviewing Rudd Dizdar and the Black Awakening!


South Wales UFO:

Police helicopter crew’s UFO encounter Mar 24 2009 by Ben Glaze, South Wales Echo LAST summer alien-hunters descended on South Wales after a police helicopter crew reported a UFO above RAF St Athan in the Vale of Glamorgan. The pilot was at 500ft awaiting clearance to land when he spotted what appeared to be another craft hurtling towards him from below. A source said: “The chopper had to swerve sharply to avoid being hit. “The guys said if they’d stayed where they were, they’d be dead – it would have been a direct hit. “They are convinced it was a UFO. It sounds far-fetched, but they know what they saw. “These guys are hardened professionals and know people will take the mickey, but they are certain they saw a UFO.” The source added the mysterious craft flew towards Cardiff and out across the Bristol Channel. South Wales Police reported the sighting, which has yet to be officially explained, to the “relevant authority.”

 

More UFOs seen over Suffolk

Last updated: 3/24/2009 3:00:00 PM

FURTHER information has today emerged detailing Suffolk’s links with the extraterrestrial after previously unseen records were made public. The Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) files, which cover the period between 1987 and 1993, have been transferred from the Ministry of Defence to The National Archives. And hidden among them include the possible sighting of a UFO hovering over Suffolk in November 1989. A member of the public reported seeing “one bright yellow/white light with a small red light” near to the A14 junction with the A120. The UFO was said to be travelling at “great speed”.
The report was taken seriously enough to be investigated by officials at RAF Wattisham, who were unable to explain the sighting. The probe discovered that none of Wattisham’s aircraft were flying at the time, nor were any other flights scheduled for the area. Furthermore, no craft were picked up on radar. Suspicions were further aroused when it emerged that shortly before the incident, Ipswich had suffered a major power cut. The report reveals that the sighting was corroborated by another member of the public and even by one of RAF Wattisham’s Met Officers. In a letter to the individual who first reported the incident, an officer from Wattisham wrote: “I have investigated the matter and at the moment I am unable to advise you of the objects you identified. “Our records show that we had no aircrafts on frequency at the time, nor were the local or approach controllers aware of any traffic in our immediate area.” Meanwhile, it has also been revealed how a frightened Norwich woman, out walking her dog, claimed a man had identified himself as coming from another planet.
The report was investigated by the MoD’s intelligence branch, DI55, whose brief was to follow up credible UFO reports.

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11 Responses to “UFOs: More swamp gas and weather balloons!”

  1. Christine said

    There was a man on here yesterday named Josiah who wanted to know what the Bible prophecied that has come true in our day. The answer you gave about Jerusalem being trodden down of the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled is a good one. Another one, the Word talks about man receiving the mark of the beast. We know now that the rfid chip has been developed and can be injected under the skin. If you read in Ezekiel, it talks about the dry bones coming to life, and we know that the Word was talking about Israel coming to life. Before 1948 the country of Israel no longer existed, but it exists again, and even their language has been revived! There are many such prophecies the Bible has foretold that have come true, all you have to do is study and learn! We will be seeing many more prophecies coming to pass in these last days. We will see evil increase and a world leader coming on the scene. There is even scriptures that say satan will come to us as an angel of light. Most of these ufo’s are discs of light. People’s testimonies that have come into contact with them are not good. We need to be ready because we do not know the day and the hour the Lord will return for us. We need to give our hearts to G-d, ask for His forgiveness, and ask His Spirit to dwell in our hearts and prepare for the coming of Messiah/Y’shua/Jesus.

  2. Joy said

    Thank you so much, Dr Lynn!
    I am very much long time to research the UK ufos. They seem to be more frequent now, it is a sign!
    They connected to the druids and the freemasons. Crop circles are freemason secret language.
    satan is deceiver. he not have much time left! Jesus coming so soon!

  3. Hector27 said

    Lynn,
    The thing that got me thinkin about nephilim technology was the fact that i heard the US military was in a super rush to procure the bones of gilgamesh from Iraq when we invaded…
    Supposedly to extract the DNA from the bone marrow for cloning purposes-

    I know that in medical use stem cells are able to replicate into any kind of cell where they are needed…
    And that the military complex/corporations are at least 10 years ahead of the public sector on most of these genetic procedures- and that obama has effectively flung the door wide open for all manner of genetic experimentation…
    (gee, i wonder why the stock market rebounded after he signed that bill? perhaps it is because there is so much money to be made in cloning human slaves?)

    Now, about the mark of the beast-
    What i am forseeing is a technology wherein nephilim DNA will be able to be injecting into a person and replicate to the point where the person becomes more nephilim than human (hybrid)…and likewise irreversibly corrupted beyond redemption… yes, it is a theological leap, but God has already made that call about the nephilim and the fallen watchers- they are unredeemable…

    Yes, the Blood of Jesus will never lose its power, for humans, that is…

    Now, here is the scenario- all of the Christians have been raptured…and the earth is in a panic, looking for answers-
    The indwelling Holy Spirit in Christians hearts is basically gone from the face of the earth…
    Along comes anti-christ, promising, among other things, to make his followers “like the gods” if they worship him…

    The mark of the beast would involve being injected wih nephilim DNA, renouncing Christ, and consensual relations with a fallen angel, which would transmogrify the human subject into a nephilim-like creature (hybrid) with supernatural abilities, like multi-dimensional travel, super-human strength, and demonic mind powers over humans… (and a super-corrupted soul)

    For me it is the only scenario which makes sense, because the Blood never loses its Power, there would have to be some kind of transformation from human to hybrid human/nephilim, which would cause the ultimate corruption: of the human soul…

    And of course there is the aspect of blasphemy, which would involve calling all of Jesus Christs miracles to be of alien origin..

    Ive not heard you comment on chemtrails, but supposedly they are genetically altering the population as well as medicating us to be more docile… (they contain DNA and narcotics)
    (supposedly it is MUCH easier to genetically alter DNA than weve been lead to believe…)

  4. joe said

    Alrighty-Hector you lost me on the para. “The mark of the beast would involve being injected with nephilim DNA”, while I think any of this could be plausible, I’m hoping and praying I’ll be on the first bus out of here regardless what happens. Even if your scenario plays out, I believe any Pre-Rapture humans(God’s creation)will be just as hated but doomed to any lie even if one is tricked into believing they will gain super-duper power etc etc. Wouldn’t you suppose that Satan would want to rid his supposed future kingdom with God’s creation altogether. How about this and I guess I will go out on a limb. Suppose, the next generation of clone babies are genetically manipulated hybrids and they eat us as a snack and we pray the rocks fall on our mortal heads, just to escape, except God isn’t listening by this time. If you read the scripture the bible speaks about the thirst for blood that the pre-flood nephilim/giants had and I would imagine the next ones will be too. There will be no where to hide and we may not die just tormented or our heads removed to avoid living and worshiping the beast. Like, I said the FIRST BUS out of here.

  5. Late Night Lisa said

    I don’t know how legit this article is but it’s the first I’ve read which connected the Illuminiti w/UFO’s.

    The body of the article for me is TMI on “programming” but that’s the basis of the article. You will see the UFO’s in Part F. Right after that it mentions Billy Graham & the Illuminiti. Well, I’ve read that before but suspicious of those claims. However, he did go off track Biblically @ the end and buddied up with the Catholic Church & became involved politically. These associations did have a negative effect on his former solid foundational teachings of the Word of God.

    http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula10chap.shtml

  6. Christine said

    Hi Joe! I am praying we’re out of here too, although I have heard very good arguements for pre,mid, and post tribulation rapture. Satan will definitely hate us. His hatred is already being perpetrated throughout the world with abortions. What better way to get rid of the human race, than to prevent them from being born? How many innocent lives have been sacrificed in the new holocaust to further the cause that Hitler started? It’s no wonder we’re seeing the manifestations of evil upon our earth. If we are here when antichrist reigns, his hatred for us will seethe. It will seethe for anyone who does not become a part of his system, and he will have them beheaded for it. However, for those who will stand against him, they will leave this world, but when they arrive in heaven, they will receive a crown that is set aside specially for the people who were willing to be martyred for Y’shua and their faith. G-d knew when to allow us to be born to this earth. He has a reason for us being here at this time. He believes we are strong enough to stand or He wouldn’t have allowed us to be born at this time. We need to pray and find out what His will is for us, and what we need to be doing for Him!

  7. john B said

    The Bible is a spiritual book to be understood as such, i think that a lot of what I am reading as comments is more science-Fiction, a lot of it is assumptions, presumptions of what the end-times “may” produce.

    The scriptures say nothing about Giants eating people in the days of Noah; However, it does say that mankind including the Nephilim was “wicked and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” Gen6:5. And that was the reason for the Flood which destroyed them, save Noah and his Family.
    Jonh B http://www.myspace.com/no_Hell

  8. Steve said

    Very well put Christine.

    Joe…I have to go with John B on this one…the book of Enoch I believe, speaks of the giants eating people but I was not aware that the Bible speaks of it or of their “thirst for blood”. If it does, please provide references for I would be interested. This is not to say that if they are once again released by God they will not have a thirst…they may indeed.

    John B…a day or so ago you mentioned their would be no rapture…pre, mid or post and yet you agree their will be a catching away in the air. You probably lost a lot of people on that one…you did me. From what I read…the first resurrection is followed by the “catching away”…which would seem to be, according to todays terminology the rapture. However, not necessarily a rapture out of tribulation.

  9. Andy said

    [Yes, I found this on the web! Andy]

    PRETRIB RAPTURE DISHONESTY

    by Dave MacPherson

    When I began my research in 1970 into the exact beginnings of the pretribulation rapture belief still held by many evangelicals, I assumed that the rapture debate involved only “godly scholars with honest differences.” The paper you are now reading reveals why I gave up that assumption many years ago. With this introduction-of-sorts in mind, let’s take a long look at the pervasive dishonesty throughout the history of the 179-year-old pretrib rapture theory:

    Mid-1820’s – German scholar Max Weremchuk’s work “John Nelson Darby” (1992) included what Benjamin Newton revealed about John Darby in the mid-1820’s during his pre-Brethren days as an Anglican clergyman:
    “J. N. Darby was a very subtle man. He had been a lawyer, or at least educated for the law. Once he wanted his Archbishop to pursue a certain course, when he (J.N.D.) was a curate in his diocese. He wrote a letter, therefore, saying he had been educated for the law, knew what the legal course would properly be; and then having written that clearly, he mystified the remainder of the letter both in word and in handwriting, and ended up by saying: You see, my Lord, such being the legal aspect of the case it would unquestionably be the best course for you to pursue, etc. And the Archbishop couldn’t make out the legal part, but rested on Darby’s word and did as he advised. Darby afterwards laughed over it, and indeed he showed a copy of the letter to Tregelles. This is not mentioned in the Archbishop’s biography, but in it is the fact that he spoke of Darby as ‘the most subtle man in my diocese.'”
    This reminds me of an 1834 letter by Darby which spoke of the “Lord’s coming.” Darby added, concerning this coming, that “the thoughts are new” and that during any teaching of it “it would not be well to have it so clear.” Darby’s deviousness here was his usage of a centuries-old term – “Lord’s coming” – to cover up his desire to sneak the new pretrib idea into existing posttrib groups in very low-profile ways!
    1830 – In the spring of 1830 a young Scottish lassie, Margaret Macdonald, came up with the novel notion of a catching up [rapture] of Spirit-filled “church” members before Antichrist’s “trial” [tribulation] of non-Spirit-filled “church” members – the first instance I’ve found of clear “pretrib” teaching (which was part of a partial rapture scheme). In Sep. 1830 “The Morning Watch” (a journal produced by London preacher Edward Irving and his “Irvingite” followers, some of whom had visited Margaret a few weeks earlier) began repeating her original thoughts and even her wording but gave her no credit – the first plagiarism I’ve found in pretrib history. Darby was still defending posttrib in Dec. 1830.
    Pretrib promoters have long known the significance of her main point: a rapture of “church” members BEFORE the revealing of Antichrist. Which is why John Walvoord quoted nothing in her revelation, why Thomas Ice habitually skips over her main point but quotes lines BEFORE and AFTER it, and why Hal Lindsey muddies up her main point so he can (falsely) assert that she was NOT a pretribber! (Google “X-Raying Margaret” for info about her.)
    NOTE: The development of the 1800’s is thoroughly documented in my book “The Rapture Plot.” You’ll learn that Darby wasn’t original on any chief aspect of dispensationalism (but plagiarized the Irvingites); that pretrib was initially based on only OT and NT symbols and not clear Scripture; that the symbols included the Jewish feasts, the two witnesses, and the man child – symbols adopted by Darby during most of his career; that Darby’s later reminiscences exaggerated his earliest pretrib development, and that today’s defenders such as Thomas Ice have further overstated what Darby overstated; that Irvingism didn’t need later reminiscences to “clarify” its own early pretrib development; that ancient hymns and even the writings of the Reformers were subtly revised to make it appear they had taught pretrib; and that after Darby’s death a clever revisionist quietly made many changes in early Irvingite and Brethren documents in order to steal credit for pretrib away from the Irvingites (and their female inspiration!) and give it dishonestly to Darby! (Before continuing, Google the “Powered by Christ Ministries” site and read “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers” – a sample of the current exciting internetism!)
    1920 – Charles Trumbull’s book “The Life Story of C. I. Scofield” told only the dispensationally-correct side of his life. Two recent books, Joseph Canfield’s “The Incredible Scofield and His Book” (1988) and David Lutzweiler’s “DispenSinsationalism: C. I. Scofield’s Life and Errors” (2006), reveal the other side including his being jailed as a forger, dishonestly giving himself a non-conferred “D.D.” etc. etc.!
    1967 – Brethren scholar Harold Rowdon’s “The Origins of the Brethren” quoted Darby associate Lord Congleton who was “disgusted with…the falseness” of Darby’s accounts of things. Rowdon also quoted historian William Neatby who said that others felt that “the time-honoured method of single combat” was as good as anything “to elicit the truth” from Darby. (In other words, knock it out of him!)
    1972 – Tim LaHaye’s “The Beginning of the End” (1972) plagiarized Hal Lindsey’s “The Late Great Planet Earth” (1970).
    1976 – Charles Ryrie”s “The Living End” (1976) plagiarized Lindsey’s “The Late Great Planet Earth” (1970) and “There’s A New World Coming” (1973).
    1976 – After John Walvoord’s “The Blessed Hope and the Tribulation” (1976) brutally twisted Robert Gundry’s “The Church and the Tribulation” (1973), Gundry composed and circulated a 35-page open letter to Walvoord which repeatedly charged the Dallas Seminary president with “misrepresentation,” “misrepresentations” (and variations)!
    1981 – “The Fundamentalist Phenomenon” (1981) by Jerry Falwell, Ed Dobson, and Ed Hindson heavily plagiarized George Dollar’s 1973 book “A History of Fundamentalism in America.”
    1984 – After a prof at Southeastern College of the Assemblies of God in Florida told me that the No. 2 man at the AG world headquarters in Missouri – Joseph Flower – had the label of posttrib, my wife and I had two hour-long chats with him. He verified what I had been told. But we were dumbstruck when he told us that although AG ministers are required to promote pretrib, privately they can believe any other rapture view! Flower said that his father, an AG co-founder, was also posttrib. We also learned while in Springfield that when the AG’s were organized in 1914, the initial group was divided between posttribs and pretribs – but that the pretribs shouted louder which resulted in that denomination officially adopting pretrib! (For details on this and other pretrib double-mindedness, Google “Pretrib Hypocrisy.”)
    1989 – Since 1989 Thomas Ice has referred to the “Mac-theory” (his reference to my research), giving the impression there’s no solid evidence that Macdonald was the real pretrib originator. But Ice carefully conceals the fact that no eminent church historian of the 1800’s – whether Plymouth Brethren or Irvingite – credited Darby with pretrib. Instead, they uniformly credited leading Irvingite sources, all of which upheld the Scottish lassie’s contribution! Moreover, I’m hardly the only modern scholar seeing significance in Irvingism’s territory. Others in recent years who have noted it, but who haven’t mined it as deeply as I have, include Fuller, Ladd, Bass, Rowdon, Sandeen, and Gundry.
    1989 – Greg Bahnsen and Kenneth Gentry produced evidence in 1989 that Lindsey’s book “The Road to Holocaust” (1989) plagiarized “Dominion Theology” (1988) by H. Wayne House and Thomas Ice.
    1990 – David Jeremiah’s and C. C. Carlson’s “Escape the Coming Night” (1990) massively plagiarized Lindsey’s 1973 book “There’s A New World Coming.” (For more info, type in “Thieves’ Marketing” on MSN or Google.)
    1991 – Paul Lee Tan’s “A Pictorial Guide to Bible Prophecy” (1991) plagiarized large amounts of Lindsey’s “The Late Great Planet Earth” (1970).
    1991 – Militant Darby defender R. A. Huebner claimed in 1991 to have found new evidence that Darby was pretrib as early as 1827 – three years before Macdonald. Halfway through his book Huebner suddenly admitted that his evidence could refer to something completely un-rapturesque. Even though Thomas Ice admitted to me that he knew that Huebner had “blown” his so-called evidence, prevaricator Ice continues to tell the world that Huebner has “positive evidence” that Darby was pretrib in 1827! Ice also conceals the fact that Darby, in his own 1827 paper, was looking for only “the restitution of all things” and “the times of refreshing” (Acts 3:19,21) – which Scofield doesn’t see fulfilled until AFTER a future tribulation!
    1992 – Tim LaHaye’s “No Fear of the Storm” (1992) plagiarized Walvoord’s “The Blessed Hope and the Tribulation” (1976).
    1992 – This was when the Los Angeles Times revealed that “The Magog Factor” (1992) by Hal Lindsey and Chuck Missler was a monstrous plagiarism of Prof. Edwin Yamauchi’s scholarly 1982 work “Foes from the Northern Frontier.” Four months after this exposure, Lindsey and Missler stated they had stopped publishing and promoting their book. But in 1996 Dr. Yamauchi learned that the dishonest duo had issued a 1995 book called “The Magog Invasion” which still had a substantial amount of the same plagiarism! (If Lindsey and Missler ever need hernia operations, I predict that the doctors will tell them not to lift anything for a long time!)
    1994 – In 1996 it was revealed that Lindsey’s “Planet Earth – 2000 A.D. (1994) had an embarrassing amount of plagiarism of a Texe Marrs book titled “Mystery Mark of the New Age” (1988).
    1995 – My book “The Rapture Plot” reveals the dishonesty in Darby’s reprinted works. It’s often hard to tell who wrote the footnotes and when. It’s easy to believe that the notes, and also unsigned phrases inside brackets within the text, were a devious attempt by someone (Darby? his editor?) to portray a Darby far more developed in pretrib thinking than he actually had been at the time. I found that some of the “additives” had been taken from Darby’s much later works, when he was more developed, and placed next to or inside his earliest works! One footnote by Darby’s editor, attached to Darby’s 1830 paper, actually stated that “it was not worth while either suppressing or changing” anything in this work! If his editor wasn’t open to such dishonesty, how can we explain such a statement?
    Post-1995 – Thomas Ice’s article “Inventor of False Pre-Trib Rapture History” states that my book “The Rapture Plot” is “only one of the latest in a series of revisions of his original discourse….” And David Reagan in his article “The Origin of the Concept of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture” repeats Ice’s falsehood by claiming that I have republished my first book “over the years under several different titles.”
    Although my book repeats a bit of the Macdonald origin of pretrib (for new readers), all of my books are packed with new material not found in my other works. For some clarification, “The Incredible Cover-Up” has photos of pertinent places in Ireland, Scotland, and England not found in my later books plus several chapters dealing with theological arguments; “The Great Rapture Hoax” quotes scholars throughout the Church Age, covers Scofield’s hidden side, a section on Powerscourt, the 1980 election, the Jupiter Effect, Gundry’s change, and more theological arguments; “The Rapture Plot” reveals for the first time the Great Evangelical Revisionism/Robbery and includes appendices on miscopying, plagiarism, etc.; and “The Three R’s” shows hypocritical evangelicals employing occultic beliefs they say they have long opposed!
    So Thomas Ice etc. are twisting truth when they claim I am only a revisionist. Do they really think that my publishers DON’T know what I’ve previously written?
    Re arguments, Google “Pretrib Rapture – Hidden Facts” and also obtain “The End Times Passover” and “Why Christians Will Suffer ‘Great Tribulation’ ” (AuthorHouse, 2006) by media personality Joe Ortiz.
    1997 – For years Harvest House Publishers has owned and been republishing Lindsey’s book “There’s A New World Coming.” During the same time Lindsey has been peddling his reportedly “new” book “Apocalyse Code” (1997), much of which is word-for-word the same as the Harvest House book – and there’s no notice of “simultaneous publishing” in either book! Talk about pretrib greed!
    1997 – This is the year I discovered that more than 50 pages of Dallas Seminary professor Merrill Unger’s book “Beyond the Crystal Ball” (Moody Press, 1973) constituted a colossal plagiarism of Lindsey’s “The Late Great Planet Earth” (1970). After Lindsey’s book came out, Unger had complained that Lindsey’s book had plagiarized his classroom lecture notes. It was evident that Unger felt that he too should cash in on his own lectures! (The detailed account of this Dallas Seminary dishonesty is revealed in my 1998 book “The Three R’s.”)
    1998 – Tim LaHaye’s “Understanding the Last Days” (1998) plagiarized Lindsey’s “There’s A New World Coming” (1973).
    1999 – More than 200 pages (out of 396 pages) in Lindsey’s 1999 book “Vanished Into Thin Air” are virtually carbon copies of pages in his 1983 book “The Rapture” – with no “updated” or “revised” notice included! Lindsey has done the same nervy thing with several of his books, something that has allowed him to live in million-dollar-plus homes and drive cars like Ferraris! (See my Google articles “Deceiving and Being Deceived” and “Thieves’ Marketing” for further evidence of this notably pretrib vice.)
    2000 – A Jack Van Impe article “The Moment After” (2000) plagiarized Grant Jeffrey’s book “Final Warning” (1995).
    2001 – Since 2001 my web article “Walvoord’s Posttrib ‘Varieties’ – Plus” has been exposing his devious muddying up of posttrib waters. In some of his books he invented four “distinct” and “contradictory” posttrib divisions, claiming that they are either “classic” or “semiclassic” or “futurist” or “dispensational” – distinctions that disappear when analyzed! His “futurist” group holds to a literal future tribulation and a literal millennium but doesn’t embrace “any day” imminency. But his “dispensational” group has the same non-imminency! Moreover, tribulational futurism is found in every group except the first one, and he somehow admitted that a literal millennium is in all four groups! On the other hand, it’s the pretribs who consistently disagree with each other over their chief points and subpoints – but somehow end up agreeing that there will be a pretrib rapture! (See my chapter “A House Divided” in my book “The Incredible Cover-Up.”)
    2001 – Since my “Deceiving and Being Deceived” web item which exposed the claims for Pseudo-Ephraem” and “Morgan Edwards” as teachers of pretrib, there has been a piranha-like frenzy on the part of pretrib bodyguards and their duped groupies to “discover” almost anything before 1830 walking upright on two legs that seemed to have at least a remote hint of pretrib! (An exemplary poster boy for such pretrib practice is Grant Jeffrey. To get your money’s worth, Google “Wily Jeffrey.”)

    FINALLY: Don’t take my word for any of the above. Read my 300-page book “The Rapture Plot” which has a jillion more documented details on the long-hidden but now-revealed history of the dishonest, 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised-until-the-real-bad-stuff-happens pretribulation rapture fad. If this book of mine doesn’t “move” you, I will personally refund what you paid for it!

    • lamarzulli said

      Andy, I’m familiar with this. Here’s the bottom line for me. No one really knows when and how all this comes down. I stand on the verse found in 1st Thessalonians. that tells us that we are going to be changed in the twinkling of an eye. The text goes on to very plainly state that we will meet the Lord in the air. No matter how you may try to twist this, it’s going to happen at some point. The question is when? If we are intellectually honest, no one really knows. If you notice I never talk about the Rapture and here’s the reason for it. We are told by Jesus to know the signs of the times. To understand what season it is. We need to keep our eye on the deception that is taking place all around us at the present time. In my opinion this deception is unprecedented. Let us not be distracted by when the Rapture occurs but be aware that the enemy is ramping up his plans and it seems to me that we are close to the time of Jacob’s Trouble.

  10. How ignorant can one person be? Most people who think like that are either in denial, or just plain stupid! My God created the entire universe with all it’s many and varied life forms, and let alone the dimensions that exist and the beings that can travel through them. To think so single minded and narrow in one’s belief, is to negate the greatness and wonders that exist beyond our comprehention and knowledge, that God has created.

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