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Reader Comment: UFOs

Posted by lamarzulli on March 12, 2009

alien-shipThis post is from Gordy Tong. He has been studying the UFO phenomena for decades and presents to us an interesting perspective on how people perceive and process UFOs.  

Hi Lynn,

Yes, it was cool talking to you.  Have you noticed something?
Secular ufologist view aliens as advanced ET’s from other star systems who are visiting or monitoring our earth.  
New age leaning ufologist, ufo cults and exo-politics believers believe  aliens are enlighten beings who are the creators of the human race(ie. gods) and are  offering mankind a Star trek future.
Military people who are interested in ufos want to shoot them down or try to back engineer ufos for military advantage. Most scientist believe aliens may exist in the vast universe but claim they haven’t come to earth yet.
Some politicians including some presidents that have seen or believe in ufos and aliens generally are briefed to keep the subject under wraps.  
Hollywood,  loves aliens and are making tons of money off public interest in the subject.
Most pastors  don’t know anything about the subject. Young people have no problems believing in ufos and aliens.  Aboriginal people call the aliens. star people or the star nations who came to their shamans or visited their people in past times.  
Only Christian ufo researchers and a handful of informed non christian ufologist  believe aliens are inter- dimensional supernatural beings,  or  nephillim (hybrids)  with an agenda to deceive and enslave mankind.
Regards,
Gordy
Thanks for the great comment Gordy. I couldn’t have said it better myself!
An interesting note: A pastor was approached recently and was given my book, P.P.&S. He was at first enthusiastic about receiving the material. He also thought that perhaps a conference on the subject would be good for his church. Alas, the pastor got cold feet and backed off, before he read the book!
It just amazes me how UFO sightings  can be occurring in real time all around us and yet the one “establishment” that should be commenting on it – because the church supposedly deals in the  supernatural, right? – is silent! UFO sightings are increasing. Yesterday I posted the video of what may be an alien. [You be the judge on that] Is it a hoax or is it the real thing? I found it unnerving and my gut reaction to it is that it might be real. We are living in the days of Noah. Those days are differentiated from any other by the presence of the fallen angels manifesting on earth. That manifestation produced the Nephilim. As we rush toward the time of Jacob’s trouble let us be aware that all of these UFO sightings might be setting us up for the deception that we are warned about in the Bible.  
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27 Responses to “Reader Comment: UFOs”

  1. Hi Lynn,

    In my years in ministry my experience has been that Pastors either stare at you blankly if you mention UFOs, or almost anything supernatural; or they scoff and often treat you like a total “nut case.” Ignorance kind of works that way.

    When I was in Bible college, one of my proffesors told me that I believed in mythology when I suggested that Genesis 6 was speaking of angels cohabiting with earth women. Of course we all know that it was the “righteous” seed of Seth, and the “evil” seed of Cain that produced the giant race. Makes perfect sense, right?

    Kevin J.

  2. THE LIE

    By the 2nd century A.D., what was once considered a bible truth, had now become rank”heresy” and the “highest of blasphemies”, thus being denounced by the clergy of the Church. The Church at this time assumed this position after agreeing with the “interpretation” of one Christian writer, Julius Africanus (A.D. 200-245). Julius would “formulate” an interpretation of a very controversial scripture verse, thereby setting the course for what would be a defection away from what the early Church first believed. This is centered on a couple of KEY scripture verses that “unlocks” much of end-time bible prophecy. Julius Africanus “interpretation” of the term “son’s of God” in the Old Testament, was upheld by the Jews at the time also, when Rabbi Simeon ben Jochai in the 2nd century A.D., “cursed ” all those who believed in the LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE, concerning the meaning of the term “sons of God”. That’s right, it was considered to be “blasphemous” to believe in what the bible said!. The”bible” at that time, consisted of the Septuagint (which was around when Christ walked the earth), Latin Vulgate, and various Hebrew versions of the Old Testament (Torah etc.). The first “complete” bible was in the form of the Latin Vulgate. The fact is, there is NO room for mis-translation here, which shall prove that the Church willfully chose to become APOSTATE on the meaning of “sons of God”, and still remains today. This, even though all bibles translated after the Septuagint LXX, were translated in part from the Codex Alexandrinus. The Codex translates the term “sons of God” as “ANGELS of God”. Every single modern day translation, was translated from the Codex Alexandrinus to some degree. The Latin vulgate would be the first translation to “cover over” INTENTIONALLY, the meaning of this term. By the late 4th century A.D., the Syrian church had managed to make the interpretation of Julius Africanus, known as the “good son’s of Seth view”, as official church “doctrine”. Subsequently, it became policy of Papal theologians at that time, to eradicate firmly from the teachings of the Church, any doctrine or dogma contrary to the “son’s of Seth view”. The fact of the matter is, this interpretation and its apparent doctrine is a flat-out, heretical LIE, and completely apostate to the Word of God. This interpretation has and still does hide the KEY behind Satan’s end-time “master plan” for these last day’s, and completely undermines much end-time prophecy interpretation, keeping the entire body of Christ in utter DARKNESS!

    FALLEN ANGELS

    This controversy, surrounds the interpretation of the term “son’s of God” used in the books of Genesis and Job. The term is properly rendered bene ha elohim in the Hebrew. The predicament here is that both the Septuagint and the torah translates this term as meaning that of ANGELS, and thereby creating one of the most disturbing doctrinal dilemmas the Church has ever had to face. The reality is, this rendering is the TRUTH. There is NO way to get around this one. As a matter of fact, it is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid the stark truth of this meaning, yet the false prophets and teachers have managed to perpetuate the “good sons of Seth” heresy for 1900 years via false theology. Those proponents that would say that the Holy Spirit would clarify over time the now accepted “son’s of Seth” interpretation, are HERETICS!. God doesn’t play games with his Word, if that’s what it says, that’s what it says!, and God MEANS what he says. Why must we try to fit Gods Word around our own idealology of what REALITY should or should not be.

    “And it came to pass, when men began
    to MULTIPLYon the face of the earth, and
    daughters were born unto them, that the
    s o n s o f G o d
    saw the daughters of men that
    they were fair; and they TOOK them
    wives of all which they chose”.

    (Gen.6:1-2)

    It’s not enough that the bible clearly translates “sons of God’ as “angels”, but the propitiators of the real “lie” will not give you an answer as to why the supposed “good” sons of Seth would instigate an action which denigrates down to nothing more then the RAPE of women it would seem on a mass scale, when you study the text. These angels TOOK them “wives” of ALL THAT THEY CHOSE. What do you think, there was a “marriage”, and a little white house with picket fence, and they lived happily ever after? NOT! What God is saying here is very clear. This “union” was not “amicable”. Also, if the sons of Seth were so “good”, why were they not spared the flood instead of Noah’s family? The sons of Seth interpretation would also seem to denote that the “daughters of Seth”, weren’t too “good looking”?, and if they weren’t very good looking, how is it that there was any sons of Seth? Are you getting my drift?, no matter how you break down the sons of Seth view, it completely falls apart. The original scriptural text is quite plain, that they were “angels”. But what must be understood is that these angel’s are FALLEN angels. Ancient Hebrew tradition holds that they “came down” in the days of Jared. Interestingly enough, the word Jared in the Hebrew is Yaradh, meaning “descent”, or “shall come down”[Strong's ref. 3382]. Just so you know, MOST of the early Church fathers and reputed Christian reformers believed in the “angelic” or the “ancient interpretation” view.

  3. hector27 said

    yeah, i remember when i first got saved and i asked one of my friends who is a pastor, about dinosaurs…
    his opinion was that they were possibly demonic!
    i had never heard that before, but since studying enoch etc… then it actually makes sense…

    but my point is this: my pastor friend would never preach that over the pulpit,

    **because it is considered non-essential for the laity,**

    do ya see what im sayin?
    in other words, i guess theres some unwritten theory that the ‘deeper knowledge’ of things such as pre-adamic civilization, fallen angels, and the book of enoch is not for the average joe on the street!

    As the time draws near, however, this will change, because it will HAVE to change…
    the phenomena will become so prevalent as to be impossible to ignore…

    and the Body of Christ will have to address it…

  4. Virginia said

    Last night while waiting for UFO Hunters to come on, I watched Monster Quest. The subject was the elusive Sasquatch. Most of what the researchers have as evidence are huge footprints and few sightings. While I’ve heard that there’s speculation that Sasquatch might be some wildcard offshoot of prehistoric man, I began to wonder if this creature wasn’t the product of some fallen angel tinkering with an animal like a primate. Somewhere its written, I forget if its the Bible or the book of Enoch or some other source that these fallen angels sinned also against the animals. Are these creatures part fallen angel?

    I also wondered if this wasn’t some early experiment by the UFO’s and maybe the reason why hunters haven’t been able to track down this creature is because this creature can also disappear into another dimension if hunters get too close? Of course, there’s alot of real dense forest that humans haven’t penetrated yet that could provide a hiding place,too. Anybody else got any thoughts?

  5. Christine said

    It had to be G-d, we were doing Bible study on Wednesday nights, about the time I came across Lynn’s theory,(via Prophecy in the News), I had never heard of it before. I knew when I read the scriptures it appeared to me that the fallen angels had taken wives,(stolen women). We went to church that same Wednesday night. My Pastor was teaching and he told the church about the fallen angels! It was the same thing I had been reading on this blog and in Lynn’s books! I have loaned my books to my pastor’s wife and she is reading them now. My pastor told the congregation about the theory that the sons of God were considered righteous, and the daughters of men were considered unrighteous. If you take from G-ds Word that there is nothing new under the sun, then you have to consider that theory in light of today. Today if a person who is living for G-d marries someone who isn’t, do they conceive giants? No. They conceive a normal child. It would reason then, it had to be fallen angels. It was an abomination to G-d and what they bore was not what G-d intended for this earth. He even told everyone about the theory that this is where the Greek god legends had come from. He also went farther to explain to the congregation that the term sons of G-d or ” bene ha Elohim” (as spoken of by David Steele) was used in the Old Testament several times and in every situation was interpreted as angels. Why would it be different only in this one instance? The words and meaning do not change until the New Testament when sons of G-d refers to born again believers. Unfortunately, today, people seem to refute the supernatural. If you can see it or touch it, you can’t believe it. How shocking it is going to be when these people come into contact with one of these nephilim? Can you imagine how their minds are going to go into shock and overflow? How will their minds wrap around what they know to be real and true? Unfortunately the only way anyone’s has for 6000 years, by calling them “gods.” Our job is to get the word out. Yes people are going to look at us like we have completely lost our minds, and many won’t want to hear it. But when they are confronted with it, they will remember what you have said. Hopefully, then, they will come back and ask questions, and not be so easily deceived.

  6. lamarzulli said

    Hi Virginia,
    I too was watching Monster Quest. I was thinking the same thing you were. Big Foot is some kind of Nephilim…
    Also David Steele’s post and comment was really great! Hats off to you sir!

  7. joe said

    I saw the tail end of Monster Quest(no pun intended) but I remembered reading a book by Colin Wilson and Damon Wilson, entitled “The Mammoth Encyclopedia of the Unsolved” which pointed me to another elusive creature called “Ben Macdhui.” It would be worth your time to check out the link on the “being”: http://www.ghost-story.co.uk/stories/benmacdhui.html

    This forementioned book was published in 2000 but has some very interesting connections about various things we talk about on this blog.

    Another book in regards to bigfoot, though it’s fiction and a page turner is “Monster” by Frank Peretti. He’s a Christian author that has several best sellers. The book’s scene takes place, I believe in Washington state. It talks about all the elusiveness of a bigfoot creature or whatever it is.

    L.A. do you believe that perhaps the Yeti, Sasquatch, The abominable snowman, Bigfoot, Swamp monster and list goes on could possibly be related to the genetic engineering of those fallen angels and at some point they fanned out all over our globe? I know you’ve spoke about it before. Refresh our memories.

    • lamarzulli said

      Hi Joe – the short answer is yes. I think this could be some kind of genetic manipulation by the fallen ones.

  8. Gordy said

    There is a paranormal program here in Canada called ” Creepy Canada” . Several episodes dealt with Big Foot sightings. Some of these creatures vanished into thin air
    after being shot at. Others were able to stall car ingnition systems for a while when the creatures were near cars. Others were reported having glowing red or green eyes!
    Perhaps they are also a fallen angelic manifestation. They are seen in areas of the country where there are also hauntings and ufo activity.

  9. joe said

    Virginia, I found a reference in Jude to your question about possible sins against animals where it mentions “strange flesh”. If you read the preceding verses it makes the distinct connection back to Egypt and the fall of Satan.

    Two versions but they each read a little differently in the 7th verse.

    KJV: Jude, 6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

    NIV: Jude, 6 And I remind you of the angels who did not stay within the limits of authority God gave them but left the place where they belonged. God has kept them securely chained in prisons of darkness, waiting for the great day of judgment. 7 And don’t forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God’s judgment.

    Patrick Heron in his book makes a very good argument in his book(Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse) and uses this very verse to link the two. He claims that’s why in Egyptian art we see the visual record of half-man, half-animal image all over their works.

    Other scripture: Romans 1:20-25

  10. It accurate exegetical analysis must be given any human willingly listen intently for the Cosmic Grand Deception is being presented for incremental acclamation for the endgame!

    NEPHILLIM

    Once one has grasped the profound ramifications of the “angel view”, then one will not have a problem with what God states in the next couple of verses of Gen.6. If its not grotesque enough that fallen angels “manifested into flesh” before the flood, then your going to have to contend with the problem of the “offspring” of this union.

    “There were
    N E P H I L L I M
    in the earth in those days; and also
    after
    that, when the
    sons of God
    came in unto the daughters of men, and they
    bare children
    to them, the same became
    mighty men which were of old, men of renown”.
    (Gen.6:4)

    I want to make this perfectly clear, the word “giants” translated in your bible is a clear cut INTERPRETATION LIBERTY from the Greek. The incorrect “root” was chosen for the translation of the word “giants” on purpose. The root that was used is gigantes (giants), but that is NOT correct. Yes, they were “giant”, but thats not WHAT they were. The translators did not interpret from the source root. The primitive root of “gigantes” in the Greek translates “gigas”, meaning EARTH BORN. They are also called “gibbhor” or “gibborim” in the Hebrew. You see, your King James bible is translated from the Greek and Hebrew from cover to cover!. In the case of Gen.6:4, the translators specifically chose the Septuagint LXX for the word “giants”, which was translated from Hebrew to Greek. The reason?, the source origin Hebrew translation is too “un-believable” (even though it is true), because they REFUTED the “angel view”. The correct translation in the Hebrew is [Strong's ref. 5303 nephiyl - nef-eel; prop. a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant: - giant]. Its proper use in the plural for this word is NEPHILLIM (giants). Though this is the root given, it is NOT all of the meaning of the word. You must “trace the roots , to find the fruit”, and what you come up with is [Strong's ref. 5307 naphal- naw-fal; a prim. root; to fall, be cast down, cease, fugitive, die, fail, be judged, throw down] and also the ancient chaldean root [Strong's ref. 5309 nephel- neh-fel; something fallen, i.e.an abortion]. Though these are descriptive words for these “offspring” (nephillim), they are much more descriptive of their “fathers” who bore them. What seems to give the credence to the “rape” scenario, is the use of the words “…came in unto…” in Gen.6:4. It implies that of “forcefulness”. Also quite interesting, is the term “…and they bare children unto them”. It might not seem curious to you at first, but God already stated at the top of the verse that”… there were nephillim (giants) in the earth in those days…”. He is emphasizing the fact that there was a definite “sexual union” between human females and “fallen angels”, creating a HYBRID progeny called the nephillim. These are what are referred to in ancient mythology as

    DEMI-GODS(half man – half God).
    TITAN = Greek
    SHEITAN = Chaldean
    SATAN = Hebrew

    If most of what you have read and learned about the “gods” of mythology is not beginning to blare bells and whistles in your mind by now, then you are not alive!. It is imperative that you notice that the “nephillim” are NOT the same as “fallen angels”. You must understand that “fallen” in the case of these angels, is a “state” rather then a “condition” at FIRST. What occurred to the fallen angels after they “procreated” with the daughters of men? Every indication would seem to say that the fallen angels “left” in the same way they “…came unto..”. They materialized “out of the “flesh” and back into their original form (spirit)”, leaving behind their offspring, the nephillim on earth. When they came unto the daughters of men, they must have manifested FLESH. There is no other explanation and NO reason to believe this not possible as the bible is fraught with occasions of “angels” appearing in the flesh, eating, drinking, talking, fighting etc, and then “de-materializing” back into “spirit”. Do you think the daughters of men were wives to phantoms or thin air?. As uneasy as this will make you feel, it is a REALITY. But then you are going to state something to this effect, “now wait a minute here, angels are sexless. The bible says so, so they couldn’t have copulated with women!”. Not quite – your bible does NOT tell you the angels are “sexless”. This view stems from another misinterpretation of scripture. The distortion of Matt 22:30, Mark 12:25, and Luke 20:35. These verses of scripture, are some of the most mistranslated verses of all time. Jesus in no way denotes anything to do with the angels “sex”, rather he is stating there is no need for angels to marry, as they are created ETERNAL. There is no need for them to “extend themselves”. Marriage was created for prolonging the existence of a “fallen” human race through “procreation!”. This IS the point he is making, because the fact of the matter is, all the “host of heaven”, good and bad including the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are ALL MALE!. You do not favor this?It is your own human relectaunce to deny the terrible truth brought fourth – that is what your bible TEACHES. In addition to the previous revelation, all of the “nephillim”?… were male ALSO, as there were not any “mighty woman of renown”, only MEN. I am clearly stating the abject facts according to the Holy Writ. There is New Testament confirmation however, that directly confirms the “angel view”:

    And the angels which kept not their
    first estate,
    but
    left their own habitation…..
    giving themselves over to fornication,and going after
    STRANGE FLESH,
    are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of
    eternal fire”.
    (Jude 6-7)

    It should be noticed here that this is a very unique translation for the word “strange” here. It is one of 18 different translations, and only used in one place, one time, right here in Jude 7. It is[Strong's ref. 2087 heteros,het - er - os; of uncert. orig., other or different,:-altered, strange]. And it would seem that Peter affirms this as well:

    “For if God spared not the angels that sinned,
    but cast them down to tartarus,
    and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be
    reserved unto judgement;
    and spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person….”
    (2 Peter 2:4-5)

    As you can see, there seems to be harmony within the Old and New Testaments as to this strange anomaly I am bringing to your attention. The “angels” held in tartarus are from the days of Noah, and shall be released just prior to Judgment. The “angels that sinned” are those that “copulated” with women. These are held along with the “rapha” (demons from the nephillim). Demons not in tartarus at this very moment (on the earth) are from the nephillim AFTER the flood. These are the same demons Jesus contended with in his time, and the ones that are seen today. But for the time being, I would like to draw your attention to the flood for a moment.

    THE FLOOD

    To put it in a nut-shell “all HELL broke lose just before the flood”. This interaction between angels and men created an enormous upheaval. God stated that “ALL FLESH WAS CORRUPT” upon the face of the earth (Gen.6:12). This sounds to me like things got way out of hand, and this “interaction” between fallen angel and man had become “all encompassing”. Akin to a plague, the fallen angels “infected” the entire human race. (Think Genetic Intrgrity!) More disturbing, is that the scripture gives the allusion that this had an impact on the animal kingdom as well:

    “And the Lord said, I will DESTROY man whom
    I’ve created from the face of the earth; both man,
    and beast, and the creeping thing,
    and the fowls of the air; for it
    repenteth me
    that I have made them”.
    (Gen. 6:7)

    God over-emphasizes the fact that he had to DESTROY “every living thing” off the face of the earth (except Noah and family and “carefully selected” animals). This is an extremely “stern” action and has never genuely been properly understood as to why? Now you KNOW why, God HAD to, otherwise no life COULD have been spared. Left outside the hands of God, man and beast would have been utterly annihilated, by “nephillim infestation”, and or by themselves. This interaction also seemed to instill irrevocable destruction to the “spiritual nature” of mankind, as “…that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was onlyEVIL CONTINUALLY” (Gen.6:5). There was only one way for God to handle this dilemma, by “wiping the proverbial slate clean!”. And thats exactly what the Lord did….the flood. Satan/Lucifer had attempted to infiltrate ALL FLESH LITERALLY, to try and thwart the inevitable birth of Jesus Christ. Had God not taken the stern action of THE FLOOD, the doom of all mankind would have been a surety. The “plague” of fallen angels completely and utterly perverted ALL FLESH, even the animal kingdom, as God destroyed them as well. We may never know the full extent of the rammifications dealing with the flood event, but we do have somewhat of a “picture”, if we will believe the bible. Like most of the “deeper” truths in the bible, they are not shown “openly” on the outside, but rather “mixed throughout” the scripture. These truths are only discernable when one digs deep into ALL the Word, and pulls these points together. There are elements written in the bible, that NO ONE HAS FOUND AS YET as things have not occured for the prophecy given to be revealed. God has made his Word in this manner. Somethings must come to pass for these truths to come to the forefront, and so it is with the area of the “nephillim” in the bible. It has been the modern UFO era, that has brought to light the truths revealed in Genesis 6, and also confirming what Christ had stated with regard to the time of the end, and its similarity to the time of the flood. As a matter of fact, the bible says the end will be EXACTLY like the time before the flood. Though Satan/Lucifer failed the first time, he will, and is attempting it once again for his TIME IS SHORT. The reality of this truth is and will be totally denied by the Church at large, for it goes against THEIR DOCTRINES AS TAUGHT BY MEN. It does not matter, for the TRUTH will always remain THE TRUTH, no matter how much they try to deny it. Now Noah and the seven others of his family were “spared”. What the Church will teach you, is that Noah was “perfect”. He was a “just” man, and thereby by he was “superiorly righteous” before the Lord. No, you must dig deeper then that. The word perfect here is translated in the Hebrew [Strong's ref. 8549 tamiym, taw - meem; entire, without blemish,complete, perfect,undefiled,whole]. It comes from an even earlier root, tamam, meaning be clean, consume,andmake an end [Strong's ref. 8552]. Now, all these adjectives are descriptive of “sacrifices” and used in this context. Certain sacrifices or burnt offerings, had to be made with animals that were “unblemished” or perfect “specimens” (physically). These were considered “undefiled” and acceptable offerings unto the Lord. Face it ladies and gentlemen, we found out after the flood that Noah was not at all “perfect” now was he (he was a drunk!). No, I am certain the Word of God is indicating that Noah’s “bloodline” (His Genetics!) was “undefiled” by the fallen angel “invasion”. His “genealogy” was unaffected by the fallen ones, thereby allowing an untainted bloodline to pass through the flood, which pass’s on through to the 1st advent of the Savior. Both the spiritual and the physical aspects of “pureness” or “perfection” (un-blemished, without spot) are represented in the scripture. What has never been properly explained is the “physical” aspect. The interpretation by the Church leaves God appearing to be “bumbling fool” when it comes to his “creation”. No, there is something “deeper” inferred by God in the LAWS of “cleanliness” and “purification” as to what is interpreted commonly today. God does not simply put any old thing in his Word, and expect you to uphold them. No, there is precise “meaning” and “purpose” in every last JOT AND TITTLE of his Word. The whole mystery of ‘why the flood?’ becomes clear when one acknowledges the truth of Genesis ch.6. You will begin to understand “why” the person of Noah, and his “purpose” according to the flood event. You will understand why Noah was “spotless” and without “blemish”. This will not seem at all too remarkable when one looks at the typology and eschatology concerning Noah in comparison with Christ. There is a hidden message in the genealogy from Adam to Noah. It is quite remarkable in that it outlines in summation the prophecy concerning Christ in the most simplest of ways you can think of. If we take the names of Adams descendants up to Noah, and translate them from Hebrew to English, we find this remarkable message of Jesus Christ’s mission, for the redemption of all mankind, from the “curse” exacted at the fall.

  11. An accurate exegetical analysis must be given to any human willing to listen intently for the Cosmic Grand Deception is being presented in an incremental acclimatization format to set fourth the endgame!

    I apologize. I was distracted for a moment wile typing.

  12. Late Night Lisa said

    An article of the “Mystery Boom.” Interesting comments.

    http://lohud.com/article/20090310/NEWS02/903100356/-1/SPORTS

  13. Doug said

    @Virginia, if you go back through the lore of UFOlogy, you will find quite a few connections, especially in the 1970s and 80s of Bigfoot type creatures in close connection to UFO sightings and in some cases being taken on board craft according to some witnesses.

    @David Steele, Very well put sir, and though as a child I was raised to believe the Seth/Cain story, it didn’t take me too long to get the correct information later in life.This was largely to what you spelled out as the stupidity and timidness of the human male to human female argument.
    But, I believe you correctly put it, that the church was kept in ignorance as they were dealing with concepts foreign to their thinking, whereby today, God is revealing what went on and what is coming to pass in our time.
    Do you have thoughts as to why there were no children on the ark, only the 8 souls. I think that they were all corrupted as were all the other children. A horrible concept, but in the light of the present day and looking at what’s coming, one can see how that could come about.

  14. Gordy said

    There is a old English nursery rhyme and popular children’s song/
    proverb, often sung as a round. It is called: “Row, Row, Row Your
    Boat”

    Row, row, row your boat,
    Gently down the stream.
    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
    Life is but a dream.

    In the Star trek movie ” The Final Frontier, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy
    and Captain Kirk sing this song after returning to earth from a
    disappointing trip to the center of the galaxy. They were previously led on a quest to
    find God. But the being they encountered was just a shape shifting
    alien who wanted their star ship. They were looking for God obviously in the
    wrong place. But where has God really made Himself visible?

    A philosopher once said, ” without an infinite reference point a
    finite point has no meaning,” If there is no personal infinite God
    equally there is no basis for absolute truth and purpose. However if there

    is an infinite personal God then we have some hope that with His help as we can
    ask Him, He will guide us into all truth. If there is no God, and we
    are simply the product of chance and the impersonal then in the end
    does anything matter or make sense? If there is no God life is but a
    dream that will eventually end. However, we do have reason to hope
    and to believe God is real for He has revealed Himself in His Son.

    John.1

    [14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld
    his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of
    grace and truth.
    [17] For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus
    Christ.

    1Thes.4

    [13] But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning
    them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have
    no hope.
    [14] For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them
    also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
    [15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which
    are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent
    them which are asleep.
    [16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with
    the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
    Christ shall rise first:
    [17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
    with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we
    ever be with the Lord.
    [18] Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    Col.1

    [12] Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be
    partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
    [13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath
    translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
    [14] In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the
    forgiveness of sins:
    [15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every
    creature:
    [16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that
    are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or
    dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were
    created by him, and for him:
    [17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
    [18] And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning,
    the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the
    preeminence.
    [19] For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
    [20] And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to
    reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be
    things in earth, or things in heaven.

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  15. john B said

    The scripture says, Gen 6:5 “Then the lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the Earth, and that EVERY intent of the thought of his Heart was evil continually”.
    Here is clearely revealed the reason why God sent the Flood [The wickedness of man]

    The previous verse 4 of chapter 6 mentions [the Nephilim] “A race seperate from man”

    The Scripture says nothing of the Nephilim contaminating man. If Scripture is silent, SO should WE be!

    As a matter of FACT the scripture says that; “The Sons of God came in unto the daughters of Men [afterwards] and that the Giants(nephilim) were already in the Earth prior to the sexual encounters. “Thus Saith the Word of the Lord”.

    I am not throwing a spanner in the works here, but This is the Word of the Lord, and we are to be true to His word. I quote the Scripture Again!

    “there were Giants in the Earth in those days; and also [after that] when the Sons of god came in unto the daughters of Men” vs4.
    The giants were in the Earth prior to the sexual encounters with the daughters of Men by the Sons of God.

    John B [www.myspace.com/no_Hell]

  16. Debra P said

    As I’m sure most of you know, The “fallen angels” coming down and having sexual encounters with the women of the earth is given in great detail in the Book of Enoch. Despite it’s unknown origins, Christians once loved and accepted this Book of Enoch (for a time) as authentic scripture especially about the part about the fallen angels and their judgment. And there are some that think Moses (myself included) is quoting from the Book of Enoch in Genesis 6:1-4.

    Athenagoras, writing in his work called Legatio in about AD 170, regards Enoch as a true profit. He also describes the angels which “violated both their own nature and their office”.

    The turning of opinions towards the book came in the fourth century during the time of the Church Fathers and because of a few, it was denounced as heresy and belief in embodied angels was banned as blasphemy. So the source books of Enoch ‘faded’ from civilization.

    Question………Who was it that wanted to keep the presence of fallen angels upon the earth a secret? Well I would say the fallen ones themselves thru those they influenced early in church history…….

    So the great delusion started even back then.

  17. Virginia said

    Joe and Doug, thanks for the information.

    David Steele, all I can say is wow! I sure learned alot. Thank you.

  18. You’re most welcome, Viringia.

    The Nephilim are among us, both underground and above ground. They rule mankind, they ride in white limousines. They look mostly the same amongst themselves the boys and the girls alike. Something about them (energy) does notfeel mainstream though.

    To further illustrate this, they are no longer giants, their fathers (angels) have succeeded in forcing our governments to research DNA and have used this technology to remove the Giant-Gene. The heroes of old are among us, the men (and women) of renown thanks to DNA manipulation!

  19. joe said

    David, when you put it like that I say, “Woe!” Can you name a few?

  20. Steve said

    Well these were certainly some eye opening comments from all you folks…thank you very much.

    John B…your comment is one I have wondered about about for years…for there were indeed giants in the earth before the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men. Perhaps God will give someone understanding concerning this…for it would seem that the sexual encounters between fallen angels and women was not the only thing that produced
    giants…IF…it produced any
    at all?

    Did the sexual encounters corrupt the dna, while the giants were the result of something else?

  21. Steve said

    @ David Steele…Dave, great comments!…but the giant gene has been removed?…I’m assuming your speculating?…tough thing to prove but your comment sounds definitive.

  22. >>To further illustrate this, they are no longer giants, their fathers (angels) have succeeded in forcing our governments to research DNA and have used this technology to remove the Giant-Gene. The heroes of old are among us, the men (and women) of renown thanks to DNA manipulation!<<

    Are you talking about the lizard people again, Mr. Icke?

  23. Christine said

    I think the verses in Jude 6-7 that David Steele gave earlier clear up any confusion from Genesis. It makes it very clear that the nephilim were fallen angels and that they gave themselves over to strange flesh. If these nephilim were fallen angels, then going after strange flesh could have been anything that wasn’t their own flesh. Women or animals! How can you argue with that?

  24. Steve said

    @ Christine…I’m not sure anyone is arguing that point Christine.

    The problem lies in David Steele’s statement that the nephilim are among us and that the reason we are not aware of it is that the “giant gene” has been removed. Without proof, a statement that is…far fetched…to say the least.

  25. Gidget said

    David – thank you for you in-depth word study – very informative.

    Debra – thanks for giving an explanation as to when and perhaps why the book of Enoch was taken out of the Bible – conspiracy by the evil one sounds plausible, but would God allow that? Yet, until recently, I never knew there were books removed by early church leaders – that doesn’t sit well with me actually…

    I did go on-line and read all 108 chapters from the Book of Enoch, who is Noah’s great grandfather, correct? Wow! I love all of the interaction Enoch has with God’s archangels – Michael, Gabriel, Uriel and can’t recall the 4th one’s name… And, how the angels show him information about weather and astronomy – very cool stuff!

    If this book is indeed part of God’s truth, then it clearly explains in great detail the sin of these angels lusting after the daughters of men. It shines a behind-the-scenes light on how they even made a “pact” with each other not to back out on the plan they concocted concerning taking them as “wives” and creating offspring, which the Book of Enoch states results in the Nephilim race rather clearly.

    I could hardly imagine when I read how these fallen angels then had the nerve to ask Enoch to intervene on their behalf with God! Of course, God makes it clear that angels are created eternal and destined for residing in heaven and they are to act on behalf of humankind, not the other way around. God dishes out their consequences for their fall, adding in the destruction of their offspring, the Nephilim. Boy, does the destruction of their “children” make them angry!! It’s all very much detailed in this account in the Book of Enoch.

    This information brings up a question for me: Is this group of angels that fell due to lust a seperate group/occasion from the first group of angels that sided with Satan and his rebellion then? It seems like it is two seperate events, two seperate fallings…

    Here’s another question for those who follow this line of thinking about Noah and the other 7 humans evacuated being of a pure genetic line (no demonic bloodline) – If the flood indeed wiped out the hybrid offspring of fallen angel and human, then how do we see the Nephilim again AFTER the flood – instances like the 12 spies that reported back to Moses when scoping out the promised land – seeing the presence of these giants in the land caused 10 of them to be fearful enough to doubt God OR what of Goliath during David’s lifetime? How did the Nephilim come on the scene again if their fallen angel “fathers” were chained? Maybe the orginal rebellious angels from Satan’s fall picked up on the mission of the 2nd group/falling perhaps not so much due to lust, but to try and pervert the bloodline knowing that Christ will come from woman?

    Any thoughts on my questions?

  26. Steve said

    Gidget…I suspect that the two accounts of angelic rebellion are different occasions but may involve some of the same angels. I would think that any angels that were going to rebel had already done so prior to their taking human wives but maybe not.

    As for how the nephilim came on the scene again, I have wondered about that myself. If we knew how they came on the scene intially…before the angels took wives and had nephilim children, as John B pointed out above, then we might could know how they came into existence again and are perhaps even here in the present in some form. I think God always wants us to try and connect the dots, but for the time being we will probably just have to wait for more dots.

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